This is with reference to the article posted by Gabe Menezes under the
heading Church Land: Going, going, gone.
Here below is the response to the article which was published in The
Examiner of October 16, 2010.
Regards,
Marshall
The news report under the caption “Church Land: Going, Going,
U G Barad:
The views expressed by Marshall Mendonza on Dr Elst seems to give an
impression that Dr Elst is wrong merely because he is a supporter of
Hindutvavadi. If tomorrow, Dr Elst says that the sun rises in the east,then
will Marshall say that this is wrong? ………. But I would not say
It is a misnomer to state that 'Dr Konraad Elst is a friend of the Hindus'.
A more accurate description would be that he is a strong votary, ideologue
and supporter of hindutva, one of the few foreigners to do so (the other
being Francois Gautier). The sangh parivar does not in any way represent
Eugene, I think your email account has been hacked. I received this unusual
email in your name.
Regards
Marshall
-- Forwarded message --
From: Eugene Correia gene_cor...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:27 PM
Subject: I need your help
To:
Hope you get this on time,sorry I
Augusto Pinto:
When I was in the Xth Standard at St. Anthony's H.S. Monte-de-Guirim circa
1076-77, which was at that time a boys school (nowadays it is
co-ed) ... (Remember I was 16 going on 17 then)
Response:
1076-77??? That must have been eons ago. Guess you must be in the biblical
*NATIONAL PEOPLE’S TRIBUNAL ON KANDHAMAL*
*JURY’S PRELIMINARY FINDINGS RECOMMENDATIONS*
*24 AUGUST 2010*
The National People’s Tribunal (NPT) on Kandhamal, held in New Delhi on
22-24 August 2010, was organized by the National Solidarity Forum - a
countrywide solidarity platform of
*CHILE**
Meticulous rescue operation and loads of luck save 33 trapped Chilean miners
By Jacob K. Philip*
It was a mission destined to be a success. Los 33—a nickname the miners who
were trapped at a depth of 2,040 feet in the San Jose mine in the dusty
hills of the Atacama desert in Chile
Here are some weblinks for those who are interested:
Please go through and preserve.
Obtain:
1. Birth Certificate http://www.india.gov.in/howdo/howdoi.php?service=1
.
2. Caste Certificate http://www.india.gov.in/howdo/howdoi.php?service=4
.
3. Tribe Certificate
Here is an extraordinary story of 33 Chileans trapped in the mines for 69
days before being rescued. It is truly an awe inspiring story and of faith
in God triumphing over physical ordeal. Read on.
Regards,
Marshall
The dramatic rescue of the 33 Chilean miners trapped underground longer than
Here is the first fallout of the Allahabad HC judgement.
*New Delhi, Oct. 8: *Call it the Babri verdict fallout: a group of Dalit
rights activists has decided to approach the government demanding that
Buddha and Jain viharas that have been converted to Hindu temples should be
returned to the
Ravi Sangekar:
1.When i compare Mr P.Rane, w.d'souza,L.Faleiro,F.Sardinha' with s.kakodkar
and M.Parrikar i find both of them are way above the cong. CMS.as far as
governance goes.AS REGARDS Mr D.B.Bandodker he was the best CM We ever had.
2. Coming back to Goa's political scene let me assure
After a lot of brickbats, the CWG ended on a high note with the organisation
going like clockwork, no untoward incidents and the athletes enjoying
themselves. India surpassed its previous record and claimed the second
place. It has been sometime when the spotlight was not on the cricketers.
Here
As if causing environmental destruction in Goa is not bad enough, the mining
lobby is now eyeing the lovely and picturesque Sindhudurg region bordering
Goa on the north viz. Sawantwadi and Dodamarg. 49 mining leases have been
issued.
Regards,
Marshall
SAWANTWADI-DODAMARG (MAHARASHTRA): The
This is an article which I would recommend to be read by all those who
seriously follow current events in India.
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main47.asp?filename=Ne161010AYODHYA.asp
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Augusto Pinto:
Anvar Alikhan wrote in the latest Outlook issue:
My aunt Habiba lives in a wonderful 350-year-old family house, where the
kitchen is big enough to swallow
Ravi Sangekar:
Mr H. R. Bhardwaj a political appointee of congress party at the center,who
has been posted as governor of Karnataka has always been a controversial
figure, remember his role in Ottavio Quatrochi case as union law minister,
you can not expect such people to uphold constitutional
Publication: The Times Of India Mumbai; Date: Oct 10, 2010; Section: Times
Features; Page: 6
TRENCH WARFARE
Writing on the WALL
Two archaeologists have had a run-in with the law for their book on the
Babri masjid site
*Pronoti Datta | TNN *
In 1968, archaeologist Shereen Ratnagar
Goa Diary http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?267380
In which our diarist attempts to decipher the English words in Amitabh
Bachchan's 'My Name is Anthony Gonsalves'
Anvar
Alikhanhttp://www.outlookindia.com/peoplefnl.aspx?pid=3906author=Anvar+Alikhan
*Anthony Gonsalves Lives*
Read the latest issue of Frontline which carries a broad perspective on
Ayodhya.
http://www.frontlineonnet.com/
Here is some disturbing news coming from Kerala. Lets all hope and pray that
these misguided people will see reason and desist from any violent or hate
filled activity.
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main47.asp?filename=Ne091010Coverstory.asp
Publication: The Times Of India Mumbai; Date: Oct 3, 2010; Section: Spl
Report; Page: 20
CLOSURE?
The Allahabad High Court verdict on the Ayodhya title suit has made the
vandals of 1992 into victors of 2010. Can this long dispute ever end?
Manoj Mitta | TNN
Three days after a Ram idol
Selma Carvalho:
Sarto, (as Marshall informed us) is still alive in Bombay and it would be
wonderful if we could interview him and get his views on the years just
before liberation and his views on Goa, 50 years hence.
Augusto Pinto:
What Selma suggests here is something that needs urgently to be
Oscar C. Lobo:
His family should be ashamed of him and what he and Indira Gandhi did for
Goa - Land to the Tillers etc.
Response:
Was it Indira Gandhi or Shashikala Kakodkar who was the architect of the
'Land to the Tillers' legislation? Will someone who knows kindly clarify?
Regards,
Marshall
Aurelio Viegas:
Working people frequently ask me a retired person what I do to make my days
interesting. Well, for example, the other day the wife and I went into town
and went into a shop. We were only in there for about 5 minutes. When we
came out, there was a cop writing out a parking ticket.
Rajendra Kakodkar:
Can someone tell how these $ 7.2 million (Rs 35 crore) paid to the
recipients: Cash, cheque, TT or RTGS? From which account of the govt the
money was transferred?
Response:
Possibly a RTI application to the IOA will reveal the facts. But I would not
be surprised if the payments
Augusto Pinto:
Does anyone know more about Sarto Esteves besides what is there on the Net?
Response:
Sarto Esteves lives in Chembur, Bombay. He should be in his late 80's if not
more. Perhaps if you visit him, you could even get your copy autographed by
him which could then become a collectors
Floriano Lobo:
The sentiments portrayed by you would live dear GOA out of the clutches of
the hypocrite Nehru Cacha who cried crocodile tears saying: Goa ke log
ajeeb haim and promptly hijacked the aspirations of genuine GOAN Freedom
Fighters ( not Lambert Mascarehas) by agreeing to the 1967
The title of the media report is highly misleading. If one reads the entire
report, it says that Hamilton offered about US$ 70,000 to each of the
nations to secure their vote, but New Delhi outbid them by offering US$
100,000 each. If that is so, then it only means that New Delhi outwitted
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JC:
1] http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg44022.html
Sun, 22 Mar 2009
I consider hindutva (ideology) to be the GREATEST threat we as a nation are
facing today. Gujarat happened because of hindutva. Orissa happened because
of hindutva. Karnataka is happening because of
JC:
I trust that Marshall will provide support for this 'charge'..without
waiting for Justice Saldanha or the Rs. 50 crores per day.
Response:
Well, here is the first instalment. I shall provide you some more depending
whether you are honest enough to establish your credibility or do the
Santosh Helekar:
The real question that all sensible and rational Goanetters need to ask is
the following:
What credible information and whose credibility assures us that the larger
picture is not based on overzealous generalizations from typographical
errors, and exaggerated and fraudulent
Anil Desai:
I believe strongly that the only way these attacks will stop overnight is
when the BJP government in Karnataka is replaced by secular Congress
government. The proof which Marshall will supply very easily is in the fact
that Marshall does not write on violence in Orissa any more.
·
I am reproducing herebelow a very insightful article which was published in
The Hindu in its entirety along with the weblink:
Vidya Subrahmaniam
The accounts of murder, arson, and crimes against women sounded horribly
familiar: Each detail, each grisly fact seemed taken out of a script
Dear Dr Nandkumar Kamat
Thank you very much for your very touching articles. It is very true that a
number of people come into our lives and teach us, enrich us and contribute
to our growth, development and well-being. Many times such people are the
humble, non-descript, sometimes illiterate. I
JC:-
If Marshall had in fact noticed that outrageous figure, and he was a fair
and honest person, he would have pointed it out AND made the bove comment
(relative to the 50 crores per day) in his original post.
Response:
One comes across different types of people.One who looks at the bigger
Jason
I did notice the unusual number Rs 50 crores per day but discounted it as a
typographical error. However,we must not lose sight of the larger picture,
which is the sustained attacks on Christians in Karnataka as the latest
Independence day speech by BJP MLA Pralhad Remani at Khanapur shows
I have just returned from another trip to Sikkim. Sikkim and Goa share many
things in common. Both joined the Indian Union under unusual circumstances.
Both have low population, great scenic beauty, high levels of literacy, and
gentle law abiding people. Where Sikkim scores over Goa is that the
Carmen Miranda:
For years now we have proved that we are not even capable of chosing a
decent number of politicians to rule in Goa. Do you really think there is
any chance at all we will get a different status for Goa? If we get
Presidential rule , that will be enough to put things right.
Justice Saldanha Records 1000 Attacks in 2 Years. He Calls for Restoration
of Rule of Law
The Hon’ble Mr. V.S. Acharya,
Home Minister of Karnataka,
On 26th January 2010, I undertook the painful duty of recording that during
the short tenure of under two years of the BJP Government in this
For those who doubt the existence of God or happening of miracles, here is
some food for thought.:-
Mother’s hugs brings dead son back to life
For two hours after he was declared dead, Australian mother Kate Ogg hugged,
touched and spoke to her stillborn baby, who miraculously opened his eyes
Jim Fernandes:
The reason I am writing about this on GoaNet is because, a fellow GoaNetter
named Santosh Helekar included me in this non-GoaNet related group, when I
responded to a thread on GoaNet. He had no business of cross-pollinating
debates and then include my email ID, in such external
Editorial in Economic Times dt 22nd July, 2010
RSS and Terror
The contradiction between the RSS’ top leaders averring that the
organisation would not support or defend any members involved in terrorist
activities, and the emergence of fresh allegations linking yet more
members, including
Excerpts:
Unfinished stories, goes an old idiom in Ajmer, find their denouement in
Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti’s shrine. Perhaps, unfinished investigations do
too. Two-and-a-half years after low-intensity blasts ripped apart the
courtyard of the centuries-old shrine, the Rajasthan police arrested
Excerpts from an interview with Himanshu Kumar-
In 1988, Gandhian activist and former MP, the late Nirmala Deshpande, my
father, and I visited Dantewada, and toured the villages there for 15 days.
We found this area to be one of the most neglected in the country, and I
felt this is where our work
When the truth about the flouting of tribal rights in the Red Corridor
struck home, the government dropped a whole chunk of damning material from a
report it had itself commissioned. *RAMAN KIRPAL* reports
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main45.asp?filename=Ne100710censoredchapter.asp
Radharao Gracias:
Will the RSS at least now prove its patriotism and provides its cadres for
recruitment into the army? It is time that the Sangh Parivar cadres display
their patriotism on the Indo-Pak border! That is where the threat lies.
Response:
I am reminded of an incident narrated by J F
For all those interested in ill effects of mining and how innocent tribals
are exploited and pushed out of their natural habitat, read the latest issue
of Frontline.
http://www.frontlineonnet.com/
Gabe Menezes:The procedure is: if there is no quorum present, the meeting is
postponed to the following week at the same time and same place. The numbers
then present constitute a *forum.*
**
Comment: Gabe, I am sure you meant *quorum* and not *forum*. There is a
world of difference between the
Santosh Helekar wrote:
Are there any Goanetters and/or Goan activists besides Marshall who agree
with this version of history and this ideology? I am particularly interested
in hearing from people like Augusto who attacked Nandakumar for criticizing
Arundhati Roy.
How many Goanetters besides
While the Indian government considers deploying the army and air force to
quell the rebellion in the countryside, strange things are happening in the
cities. On June 2, the Committee for the Protection of Democratic Rights
held a public meeting in Mumbai. The main speakers were Gautam Navlakha,
Your Religion is not Important says Dalai Lama
A brief dialogue between a Brazilian theologist Leonardo Boff and Dalai Lama
(Leonard is one of the renovators of the Theology of Freedom)
In a round table discussion about religion and freedom in which Dalai Lama
and myself were participating at
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main45.asp?filename=Ne050610alls_not.asp
For the atheists on this list here is some food for thought. Read on.
*Lucky nine who missed ill-fated flight now believe in miracles*
Dubai: It was nothing less than a miracle or perhaps beginning of a 'second
life' for the nine people who did not show up at the airport here to board
the
ENDLESS VIOLENCE AGAINST CHRISTIAN WOMEN OF KANDHAMAL
by Santosh Digal
After anti-Christian pogroms of 2008-2009, the Christian women of Kandhamal
have difficulty returning to their villages and resuming their lives. The
Social Centre in Mumbai studies their problems to see how to help. The
Excerpts:
'As an organisation, the Sene has always claimed for itself a radical Hindu
identity. Its leaders position themselves as zealous custodians of “Hindu
religion” and “culture”, its cadres as valiant foot soldiers. In their own
words, they will not hesitate to assault people, vandalise
Anil Desai :
I have every sympathy with residents of Carmona in particular and Goans in
general but the Mantra is:
*Corruption is better than communalism.*
Congressmen and women can recite this at every election and get Churchillbab
and his brother and now even his daughter elected.
We will wake
MUMBAI: In what appears to be a medieval fatwa, the Sena-BJP-ruled BMC has
sought to make it mandatory for the 150-odd missionary-run schools in the
city to promote 'Hindutva traditions'. The municipal corporation's education
committee will now write to the state education department seeking
“I’m used to delivering on promise. I’m used to working with civilized
people. Unfortunately, in public life in India, these are not attributes
that you see.”
N R Narayana Murthy, Chief Mentor, Infosys
“Why has Andhra Pradesh succeeded in driving out Maoists? It’s because of
economic development. There is no recruiting ground for Maoists”
G K Pillai, Home Secretary in Tmes of India
If a picture is worth a thousand words, Mumbai Mirror photographer Sebastian
D’Souza deserves a Booker.
Saby, as he is known among Mumbai’s journalists, had risked his life to
click Pakistani terrorists Ajmal Qasab and Abu Ismail as they went on a
killing spree at the CST Station on November 26,
Chandrashekhar Patidar, arrested by the Rajasthan ATS in Madhya Pradesh in
connection with the October 2007 Ajmer dargah bombing, is an active RSS
worker, says his brother.
“Why should we be ashamed of our association with an organisation that
works in the national interest,” Chandrashekhar’s
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?265168
For hours, Syed Maqbool Shah sits on the verandah of his family’s
double-storey house looking up at the sky, getting up to shuffle around the
little compound where a rose bush stands in full bloom. The walnut sapling
that he recalls his father planted in a corner is now a thick, tall tree. He
Valmiki Faleiro:
* Wg Cdr Clarence Joseph D'Lima, VSM in 1973.Commanded the New Delhi-Tezpur
flight carrying Prime Minister Morarji Desai and others that crash-landed
near Jorhat on 04 Nov 1977. All passengers survived, all five aircrew died.
No awards bestowed despite their evident
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Santosh Helekar:
India figures very high only in the social hostilities index, which is
obvious because this index is skewed by hundreds of deaths due to war,
military action, and religious extremist, left-wing extremist and
terrorist violence in places like the Northeast and Kashmir, as
indicated
I have recently been to Sikkim. Sikkim and Goa are similar in many ways.
Both joined the Indian Union after independence under unusual
circumstances. Goa joined the Indian Union in 1961when Nehru was the PM and
Sikkim joined the Indian Union in 1975 when Indira Gandhi was the PM. Goa
borders the
Selma,
The following article which appeared in the Times of India on Dec 22, 2009
would perhaps be of interest to you.
Excerpts:
For
Indiahttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/On-religious-discrimination-India-next-only-to-Iraq-US-thinktank/articleshow/5363193.cms,
international
Santosh Helekar:
India figures very high only in the social hostilities index, which is
obvious because this index is skewed by hundreds of deaths due to war,
military action, and religious extremist, left-wing extremist and terrorist
violence in places like the Northeast and Kashmir, as indicated
A reponse in the Times of India to the letter written by Hilda Raja doing
the internet rounds. Refer link below.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/opinion/edit-page/Why-Should-We-Shut-Up/articleshow/5687175.cms
Samir
It is not as if the secularists have not defended or supported Taslima. It
is just that she is not an artist or celebrity like MFH and therefore has
not been hogging the media headlines. Further, the very fact that she could
get asylum in India and live in Kolkotta speaks a lot for itself.
Dr Anil Desai:
1. Do you really believe that the whole controversy about Tasleema Nasreen
is about Hindu extremists using her case for political purposes( as you have
put it)?
2. Can we read your views about the violence in Colva and the treatment
meted out to Culvert and the actions of religious
Dr Anil Desai:
The pseudo-secularist political operators in India see bad in Hindu religion
only.
Response:
1. I have several times stated very clearly that violence or hate is no
answer to any disagreement or dispute. You are welcome to run through the
Goanet archives where you will find
Selma
I thank you for your kind words of support.
When people cannot counter arguments, they resort to abuse, name calling,
labelling and ridicule. Absolutely Baradesque!!!
Regards,
Marshall
Anil Desai:
About freedom of expression: It should be exercised with responsibility.
Response:
1. Who decides the threshold - the artiste, civil society, the judiciary or
extremist elements?
2. After the judiciary decides, can extremist elements continue to obstruct
justice or order?
3. What is
Santosh Helekar:.
But I would like to defend the position that Marshall and others of his ilk
hold here. After giving a lot of thought to this issue, I have come to the
realization that theirs is a legitimate political position. It is not
pseudo-secularism, nor is it hypocritical. For sure, it is
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/sir-dont...-i-am-not-a-terrorist-pleaded-ats-inspector-as-dcp-shot-him-twice/590554/0
Samir
With extremists and fundamentalists from both sides feeding on each other,
it is those who are caught in the middle who are the victims. Unfortunately,
we seem to have begun to accept that two wrongs make a right. We also seem
to suffer from an inferiority complex that we always seem to
Samir
One important point in this entire discussion on MF Hussain which everyone
seems to be missing out is that the so called offensive paintings were
created over 40 years ago. They were exhibited in art galleries, viewed by
artists and art connoisseurs and did not raise anyone's hackles.
I must congratulate Sandeep Heble for this article which is so well written.
Regards,
Marshall
Selma, I do not think there is anything courageous in declaring oneself
atheist. In today's world. It has in fact become fashionable to do so. A
person does not become a better person by becoming an atheist. It is
qualities of head and heart that makes one a good human being and not any
ism's or
Frederick Noronha: Stupid sounds a bit rude. If you say insensitive or
ill-informed it might make for a better point :-)
Response: You do have a valid point. My apologies to Dr Barad.
On a separate note, have these changes in terminology/ sophistry made a
difference to the world we are living
Rajadhyaksha:
Hi Marshall,Even I have some questions for you -1. Shouldn't secular people
support Tasleema Nasreen just like they support MF Hussain ?2. What do you
think about the violence being wrecked in Shimoga last week ? Shouldn't this
violence be condemned ?3. In 2004 Hussain made a movie
Dr Anil Desai:
1. No, I do not and I was not interested in this until Goanet published one
of his offensive drawings that I found hurtful. The day I saw it, I could
not sleep the whole night as I love my religion .
I hope you love your religion. I assume you are a catholic and you would
not be
and ( who have now tendered a grovelling apology)?
Anil Desai
On 7 March 2010 11:16, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote:
Dr Anil Desai:
1. No, I do not and I was not interested in this until Goanet published
one of his offensive drawings that I found hurtful. The day I saw it, I
Dr Anil Desai:This appeared on sify today. No doubt his countless
admirers/supporters on goanet would like to comment on this.
Response: It would be interesting to know Dr Desai's views on the MF Hussain
controversy. I also have a few queries for him:
1. Can you inform us when these paintings
Please take time to go through the blog in the link provided below. It is
one of the most sensible and balanced perspective I have come across on this
subject.
http://blogs.outlookindia.com/default.aspx?ddm=10pid=2198
Regards,
Marshall
Barad wrote:In PM Manmohan Singh saying that India Government is committed
to getting 1/3rd reservation to women? When he himself is surviving at this
age at the support of Italian dolly! Our ms has every chances of inducting
his wife and daughter (if any) in
Indian government.Worst will surface
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Excerpts:
I'd long wondered how --
Talking about freedom fighters, I recollect my father narrating to us
stories of people who were sent to prison for fighting for freedom among
whom was Prof James Fernandes (formerly St Xavier's College Mapuca) from my
village in Assonora. I believe that not only did he not claim any benefits
or
Excerpts:
A judicial commission of inquiry set up to probe a series of attacks on
churches in Karnataka in September 2008 has in an interim report dated
February 1 said that detailed examination of the incidents point to the
involvement of Bajrang Dal, Sree Rama Sene and the Vishwa Hindu
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