The problem with this fake supurlo Goencar is he never practices what he
preaches. For example, despite what he claims here, he is invariably the first
person to shoot the messenger, as he has done with Charles Dellon, Claudius
Buchanan, Anant Priolkar and Alfredo De Mello in connection with
--- Santosh Helekar wrote:
It is clear from the literature that we do not know much about the history of
inquisition in Goa.
GL responds:
So glad to read the above from Santosh. Finally the light about 'the lack of
information and hard data' has made its way
Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:
a: My attitude to your responses to my posts or our book is that to a
'wet diaper' (should sound familiar) - On my butt and full of sh-t.
b: Your TGF chat-site ...
==
jc's response:
a: I agree with Gilbert Lawrence.
b: I thank him profusely
It is clear from the literature that we do not know much about the history of
inquisition in Goa. Recently, one of our prominent Goan historians had chalked
out a promising research project to translate some primary sources stored in
the national library in Brazil. A few of us were enthusiastic
- GL wrote:
The loud-mouth claims that I do not do my research before I write. Then JC
alludes that I plagiarize / paraphrase from experts when I write. So exactly
which end is this guy talking from or thinking?
Can JC tell us the sources from where he plagiarizes / paraphrases
Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:
For those who are wondering what this 'loud-mouth' is hollering about,
JC suggests that Indian vaidays and the hakims were twiddling their
thumbs waiting for a German to tell them what homeopathy remedies to
use to treat their patients.
Likely
Gilbert is right. Hindu temples in Goa were knocked down by a Muslim typhoon
following a Buddhist hurricane and atheist cyclone. The remaining temples left
standing collapsed on their own out of sheer embarrassment that they had
withstood such atrocities.
I do not understand why the views of
--- Frederick Noronha wrote:
JC has done a gotcha on Gilbert, as is his style when he disagrees with
someone's point of view. JC and his ike might be the Grand Inquisitors of the
21st century, when they go out of their way to come down heavy on pillory those
whom they don't agree
Dear Victor, I will be happy to work on the sure best-selling treatise. First
please explain to me, what do you state I am claiming? I have a feeling
through oversight, you are mis-representing my views. So here is a further
explanation on some of the issues.
In 16th / 17th century in Goa,
In a long-winded, Ringa Ringa Roses post Gilbert Lawrence
gilbert2...@yahoo.com included the following:
In the 16th / 17th century, vaidyas and hakims were the native
doctors, and ipso facto, at best they were homeopaths and aurveydics
RESPONSE:
a: After reading yet another convoluted attempt
Who needed them, Jose, when we had my aunts to diagnose, and my mother's
noxious
kitchen dispensations. Gilbert knew them well ! eric.
From: J. Colaco jc colaco1@
In a long-winded, Ringa Ringa Roses post Gilbert Lawrence
gilbert2...@yahoo.com
JC has done a gotcha on Gilbert, as is his style when he disagrees
with someone's point of view.
But is Gilbert implying that JC and his ike might be the Grand
Inquisitors of the 21st century, when they go out of their way to come
down heavy on pillory those whom they don't agree with . Specially
Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:
[1] JC has done a gotcha on Gilbert, as is his style when he disagrees
with someone's point of view.
[2] But is Gilbert implying that JC and his ike might be the Grand
Inquisitors of the 21st century, when they go out of their way to come
down
Thanks doc for that long and lovely post! The lesson for me to take
home is that I have been continually misspelling the word ike (ilk)...
Atrocious! FN
Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
On 28 October 2010 05:28, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote:
Now, what problem
.
Regards,
Victor
From: Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com
To: goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Sat, October 23, 2010 3:47:21 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Goa: The Cruellest Inquisition
Gabriel de Figueiredo
Why dig out only the Portuguese? Perhaps comparative
Gabriel de Figueiredo
Why dig out only the Portuguese? Perhaps comparative history would be better -
how many people were subject to torture in England in the same period, and how
many people were tortured in India by the Brits in a similar period for
political and religious
From: Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com
To: goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Fri, 22 October, 2010 11:49:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa: The Cruellest Inquisition
Eddie, if / when Richard Zimler (author of the Goa-based mystery novel) comes
to
any Goan function in London, can you ask him if he
Gabriel de Figueiredo wrote: Why dig out only the Portuguese? Perhaps
comparative history would be better .
jc's comment:
My dear Gabriel,
From my reading, Gilbert is making two two points:
a: Enough of speculation and revisionism. Produce the data. This is a
valid point.
b: If Richard
-- Gilbert Lawrence
Eddie, if / when Richard Zimler (author of the Goa-based mystery novel) comes
to any Goan function in London, can you ask him if he has any references for
data (age, sex, occupations, ethnicity, religion, nationalities, etc and
crimes accused), on the 57
Eddie, if / when Richard Zimler (author of the Goa-based mystery novel) comes
to
any Goan function in London, can you ask him if he has any references for data
(age, sex, occupations, ethnicity, religion, nationalities, etc and crimes
accused), on the 57 individuals condemned to capital
Instead of giving us the London-based Zimler's opinion about Inquisitional
events in Goa, why not provide the actual data about the victims of the Goa
Inquisition. We know the number subjected to capital punishment. So why do not
we have a breakdown of their ethnicity? If we do not know the
--- Frederick Noronha wrote:
Interesting! Since Priolkar, we've been lead to believe that the Inquisition
somehow targeted the Goan Hindu. Now, writers with Jewish names talk about
Muslim and Catholic-coverts as victims.
When will we stop playing 21st century games with the
14 Oct. 2010: The Rupee News. Excerpts:
Muslims were the major victims of the Spanish Inquisition in Goa. Richard
Zimler of course focuses on the couple of Jews. But his work is seminal in
the sense that it highlights the plight of the Goans...
In Goa, the Portuguese Inquisition focuses its
Interesting! Since Priolkar, we've been lead to believe that the
Inquisition somehow targeted the Goan Hindu. Now, writers with Jewish
names talk about Muslim and Catholic-coverts as victims.
Interesting
When will we stop playing 21st century games with the intolerance of
the 16th (and maybe
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