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Santosh: Now please provide evidence for the disinformation campaign carried
out on this issue by radical groups from the other side.Cheers,Santosh
Comment: Suggest you do your own research. I have merely pointed out to you
that it was the VHP who took credit for the unfortunate incident.
The worldwide economic meltdown and recession is having repurcussions all
over the world, India and Goa included. The extent of the effect or the
gravity is as yet unknown.
For Goa, the immediate effect will be felt in the mining sector where prices
of iron ore have crashed by more than 40%.
Mario Goviea:
Everyone on Goanet knows Santosh is a MAHA-atheist and thus someone who has
about as many friends in the Sangh Parivar as you or Fr. Ivo.
Response:
Without discussing Santosh in any way, I submit it is perfectly possible for
one - whether he be an atheist or agnostic or believer to
Freddy Agnelo Fernandes:
If given a choice between the two and no other alternative, I would
definitely go with the BJP, reasons being I would surely know what to expect
from them and can get my self ready for the worse, whereas, In case of
Congress, you just don't know what to expect from them
The attack has been too stunning. Just like 9/11. Totally unexpected. Out of
the blues. I live in Bombay and have to pass by daily, 4 of the spots where
there has been live action. It is sheer providence that I was not around at
the time.
I have been repeatedly saying that we need to condemn all
I came across this interesting article. Some food for thought.
http://health.msn.com/health-topics/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100227277gt1=31036
Regards,
Marshall
The para read
Violence which was once confined to the Kashmir valley has now spread all
over the country. The catalyst was the razing of the Babri Masjid. Some
ideologies still support terror openly as evidenced from the statements of
some leaders and parties who are defending the Malegaon
Santosh:The Jewish Rabi from New York and his wife were definitely killed
because of their links with the Hindutva extremists who demolished the Babri
Masjid.
Response: I never expected that I would have to give comprehension lessons
here. I suggest that Santosh reads the sentences again and again
Now that it is over, I hope the political class sink their differences and
treat all acts of hate and violence with a heavy hand. There should be zero
tolerance towards violence. Otherwise the sacrifice made by our brave
commandos and police and those who died would have been in vain. It is time
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/once-was-mumbai/391603/0
http://www.countercurrents.org/ayyub291108.htm
http://www.countercurrents.org/khan281108.htm
Regards,
Marshall
Santosh: We have another revision of the insightful Babri Masjid comments,
along with a creative definition of the word catalyst. These assertions are
apparently facts, not opinions, leading me to wonder what opinions are like
in the activist world.
Response: Please read what Kumar Ketkar, editor
The BJP's slander campaign did not deter Karkare from his dharma
Julio Ribeiro ( Times of India 28.11.2008)
Hemant Karkare came to meet me on Tuesday. He was shaken by L K Advani's
all e g at i o n s that the antiterrorist squad, which he headed, had acted
in a politically motivated
Dear Rishi
It is unfortunate that you choose to look at the tribute in a partisan
manner. It is indeed sad, that even in death, some persons like you, detect
some bias just because there is a reference to Malegaon. In fact I have read
several articles on Hemant Karkare and nearly all of them
Santosh: In the post appended below it is claimed that an article by Julio
Ribeiro has the title: The BJP's slander campaign did not deter Karkare
from his dharma. It is also claimed that it was published in the Times of
India. However, the weblink provided at the end of the post is to a
Santosh: One ought to be seriously concerned whether Times of India editors
injected their own partisanship and ideology into Julio Ribeiro's article by
providing a politically sensational title and adding more than a paragraph
infusing electoral politics into his text.
It is really sad to see a
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/3778439.cms?in_showcasein_showcase
Bosco:As far as being a credible source of news I have little doubt
that the latter is more credible than the former (an online forum).
However it is not clear if JFR authored the column or was interviewed
for the column.
Chronology:
TOI article above is dated Nov 28, 2008 - No time of posting
.Mario :Does Mr. Ribeiro even know that said paragaph was inserted? How do
you know for sure whether he has issued a disclaimer or not, which the TOI
may not have published?Would you please contact him and let us know whether
he disclaims the paragraph or not?
Response: Mario, I am amazed at your
Bosco:Marshall you dont owe Santosh or anybody an explanation. You owe it to
yourself. If you are going to distribute information, it should be
unadulterated. A simple regret for including the wrong link would have been
appropriate. Even the TOI link you provided is incorrect.
Response: Yep,
Santosh:The conclusion that TOI has published a version that politicizes a
national tragedy is plainly obvious from the title, let alone upon reading
it. In my opinion, the TOI editors' image deserves to be tarnished by the
mere fact that they have published such an article. If they have tampered
*Santosh: *The above claim of lack of evidence is a deliberate deception. I
have provided evidence for two versions of the article, claimed to be
written by the same author, one of which (TOI version) is a cheap
politicized version.
Response: 1. Santosh is well aware that www.faithfreedom.org is
Barad:
But don't you all think its right time to hang Mohammad Afzal, also known as
Afzal Guru, who was convicted of conspiracy in the December 2001 attack on
the Indian Parliament and was sentenced to death by the Supreme Court of
India in 2004. Don't you all think this should be the answer
I think if there is one person who deserves the maximum appreciation, reward
and recognition , it is ASI Tukaram Omble. It is thanks to his efforts and
sacrifice that the lone terrorist has been captured and our police is able
to get valuable information about the operation. I do hope that the
Dr Barad:
Before writing above response Marshall should have recollected the statement
made my our President Abdul Kalama on his last day asPresident saying that
the file of Mercy Petition of Afzal was never sent tohim or to his office
for Mercy Consideration or otherwise! And secondlyAfzal was
Santosh:here are some examples of the editorial corrections made to the
unedited non-sensational version of the article,
Response: The Don Quixote's of this world will continue tilting at imaginary
windmills till the cows come home. They are always in search of the elusive
fig leaf to hide their
Tony Martin:
However odious a comparison like this may seem but the mumbai terror attacks
throw a screaming irony in our face. The Orissa carnage that saw thousands
murdered, many more 1000s homeless besides all types of other unimaginable
atrocities, did not invite so much as a whimper of protest
Barad:Finally, one question to our brilliant Marshall: Now tell me whether
Afzal
should be hanged or UPA government? Marshall, study the case and come back
to this forum again
Response:
I request Dr Barad to read my post once again. I am reproducing it below for
easy convenience.
Fortunately we
Dr Barad:
I accuse Sonia of having let her Christian and Western background, in four
years, divide India on religious and caste lines in a cynical and methodical
manner.
Response:
And I am the king of France!!! And pigs will fly.!!! And Aesop and Anderson
will jump with joy!!!
Regards,
Marshall
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/USA/Obama_urged_to_probe_pro-Hindu_groups_Indian_link/articleshow/3808049.cms
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/35525249.html
John Fernandes :
In the wake of the 26/11, terror attacks in Mumbai, the Congress govtmt will
now go into 100% MUSLIM APPEASEMENT POLICY starting with Mr Arjun singh
Congress, HRD minister who will immediately grant 100% reservations for
muslims in education, jobs, housing loans and business
Dr Barad:Once again I request you to study the subject matter and come back
to this forum.
Response: Ignoring the unwarranteed personal remarks, attacks and
insinuations ill becoming of a person appending the word 'Dr' to his name, I
wish to repeat my questions to Dr Barad.
1. Could you kindly
John Fernandes:Father Cedric Prakash is a man of God, and a representative
of the Christian community, he should be unbiased in his approach to these
disturbing events. He has never condemned the brutalization, rape and murder
of the 4 lakh Kashmiri Hindu Pandits by Muslim militants forcing them
A very good editorial in the Times of India dt 10.12.2008
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/BRIEF-CASE__Maximum_City/rssarticleshow/3814464.cms
Regards,
Marshall
Extract:
But the VHP and Bajrang Dal cadres - together with some like-minded tribal
leaders - apparently still hold sway over many of the Kandhamal villages,
and they impose clear conditions on the returnees: You can return provided
1) you convert to Hinduism, and 2) you do not initiate any court
to make it happen. I would also like to
wish all the Goanetters for making this a very vibrant and interesting
forum.
There have been many a post that has struck an emotional cord, especially
those that take you down a nostalgic era.
With best wishes to all Goanetters
Marshall Mendonza
*Thank you Ruby for posting that very thought provoking article by Arundhati
Roy. She has that unusual and uncanny ability to strike at the heart of the
matter and put things in proper perspective. She also has the courage, guts
and conviction to speak and write on matters which are not thought to
Sandeep Heble:I somehow fail to understand why Marshall has joined the
bandwagon of people, who are all out to tarnish the fair name of Sonal Shah
with propaganda that is false, malicious and misleading.
Response: First of all, let me assure Sandeep that I have not joined any
bandwagon or
In some ways the demolition of the mosque was like a mini reprise of
Partition: a watershed event that radically changed the relationship between
Hindus and Muslims, within this country and outside, and created a chain
reaction of revenge and reprisal, which started with the Bombay blasts and
I came across two thought provoking letters to the editor of Outlook.
Thought of sharing with you.
Quote:
After all that I've read and heard about the attack on Mumbai, I feel it's
my fault. I'm the one to blame. Why?
Because I live my life pretending nothing can happen to me (until it hits
home
Santosh: Are you sure you are comfortable with taking Marshall and the
writers of the articles he posts by their words, but not Sonal Shah? Is
Marshall more truthful than Sonal Shah?
Response: Some posters love to live in denial. It helps them to avoid
uncomfortable questions and also
Here is Arundhati Roy's article which appears in the latest issue of
Outlook.
http://www.outlookindia.com/fullprint.asp?choice=2fodname=20081222fname=ARoy+%28F%29sid=1
Regards,
Marshall
Bosco D'Mello:As a first-generation American at a very early age, it is
possible that one is not aware of the extent of the activities of the VHP
'back home'.
Response: Are you suggesting that she became a member and office bearer of
an organisation without knowing its constitution and the
Thanks Freddy for that lovely article. Look forward to some more from
you. The toddy tapper, the coconut plucker, the fisherwomen, the man who
sold the feni , the barber, the posorkar, were almost treated like family
members.They mixed business with social interaction. They knew the members
of the
This is a report on Ekal Vidyalaya's, a VHP front organisation funded by
Sonal Shah and her organisation Indicorp.
Extract:
a study, which revealed that the FTS which was provided assistance by the
erstwhile NDA Government since 1999-2000 under the Innovative and
Experimental Education Component
Thank you Joe for the wonderful lyrics and videos. Brought back many
nostalgic memories of my childhood. Do they still conduct them today in Goa?
Regards,
Marshall
While googling the web, I came across this article published in Tehelka
issue of Jan 19, 2008. The author appears to have forseen the events of
August 2008.Here is what he says.
*With Modi triumphant, an emboldened Sangh is set upon doing a repeat of
Gujarat, reports **S. ANAND*
**
*You are just
Santosh:Please provide me with actual first-hand evidence from a responsible
law enforcement agency in a point-wise manner here that Ekal Vidyalaya, VHP
America and/or Indicorps are/were directly involved in funding any kind of
illegal or criminal activity in India or anywhere else. I will forward
This is the state of the sub-continent we are unfortunately destined to live
in. On one hand Islamic terrorists and on the other hand Hindutva
terrorists. And we are caught in between. With every day getting uncertain,
each passing day becomes a bonus in our lives. And the country inspite of
being
Excerpts:Quote:
The siege in South Mumbai exposed the extent of the denial residing in the
central government over a recurrent threat posed by extremists.
Western commentators were quick to invoke references to 9/11. Yet the truth
is that these atrocities were only the latest in a torrent of
With Christmas approaching soon, Orissa is once again on tenterhooks. The
RSS has declared a bandh on 25th Dec 2008. to intimidate and provoke the
christian community. Lets hope good sense prevails and the Orissa government
acts against this threat with a firm hand.
Mario:I was the only one in this forum who opposed the call in another post
for Narendra Modi to assume national leadership in India based on his new
perception as an administrative genius.
Response: Since you have made a point that only you responded to the article
on Narendra Modi, here is my
This is with reference to Dr Barad's posting.
1. Could Dr Barad provide the link where the information is displayed as I
have been unsuccessful in finding the info.
2. Confining myself only to the Indian context as I am unaware of facts in
other countries, I would like to state that Freedom of
I received this joke in my mail-box. Thought of sharing with you. Enjoy.
Goan Joke
A Goan family in Varca was puzzled when the coffin of their dead mother
arrived from Canada. It was sent by one of the daughters. When they opened
the Lid,they noticed that the dead body was very tightly squeezed
Sandeep Heble:
The links below may provide you with the answers:
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main.asp?filename=ts013004shashi.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislaus_vs_the_State_of_Madhya_Pradesh
Response:
Thanks Sandeep for providing some links. However, this was not what I had
asked Dr
Here is yet another one. Enjoy!
Windows 2004
Konkani Alert
The Coalition Government in Goa has managed to come to one unanimous
decision. It has commissioned Bill Gates to create a Konkani Version of
Window 2004 exclusively for Goa and other Konkan regions in India.
The Microsoft Team is
*Excerpts:Quote:*
India is witnessing the rise of politically motivated communalism. For this
purpose, an entirely new religion called 'Hindutva' has been invented.
Hindutva lays claim to India as an exclusively Hindu nation. The tactics of
Hindutva are unscrupulous. Buildings have been destroyed.
Sandeep:
There is no such thing as a fundamental right to convert any person to
one's own religion and the government can impose certain restrictions
keeping in view public order, the Supreme Court has ruled.The court's ruling
came while dismissing a petition challenging an Orissa law requiring
Frederick had made an interesting observation that many expatriates profess
liberal values abroad and are arch conservatives back home. They practice
double standards. Secularism for some of them is only skin deep. Here is an
article written by Shashi Tharoor in the Washington Post sometime in the
Sandeep Heble:
That person should well be entitled to convert, but the conversion must be
voluntary, i.e. without the use of unethical methods like force, fraud or
material inducements.
Response:
Any conversion which is done by force or fraud is no conversion. The Church
does not look upon the
Shrikant Barve:This is it.. Marshall Mendonza
The article refered by Dr. Barad.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/conversations-with-foreignfunded-charity/372252/
Response:
I found the article in the IE. I asked for the weblink to the page in the
ministry of home affairs website which gives all
Extracts:Quote:
But efforts to investigate the VHP's foreign funding have been thwarted. In
a 1999 article, Om Prakash Tiwari documents a distressing missing file of
the VHP. He writes: The corridors of power in Delhi have mysteriously
suppressed a file of the Income Tax Department which was
http://indianchristians.in/news/content/view/2660/47/
Vinay Natekar:
The conversions by force, fraud and inducements was are under debate. Have a
look at the conversions in Madhya Pradesh, Orissa and Arunachal Pradesh and
their impact on law and order there which compelled some Indian states to
implement ban on conversions
But Today we can see
Dr Barad:
Marshall, before I key in my response on above subject, can I ask you as to
your definition of the words Conversion and Secularism?
Response:
Could you inform us what you understand by the words Conversion and
Secularism? I will then respond.
I do not have the time or patience to play
Santosh:if you tell somebody that they will be cured from cancer if they
pray for this saint to intercede on their behalf, as soon as they convert,
and you sincerely believe what you are telling them, then are you committing
a fraud? I have a suspicion that our legal system says no. Otherwise, it
Samir Umarye:
To bring about an awareness among the people concerning terrorism and it's
ill-effects the Hindu Janajagruti Samiti (HJS) Goa has organised a public
meeting on Sunday, December 28 at 5
pm at Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj Maidan Bicholim.
Response:
Isn't this a classic case of the pot
Marshall Mendonza: Isn't this a classic case of the pot trying to show how
black the kettle is!!!
Dr Barad: Why do you say this? are you trying to say that terrorist attacks
in India are conducted by Hindu Janajagruti Samiti (HJS)? Please give your
justifications for the response you wrote
Dr Barad: Do write your response only through Goanet, don't use your cronies
to send personal mails as a patch up.
Response: What cronies are you talking about? What patch up? What personal
mails? Have you started hallucinating now?
Regards,
Marshall
Venantius Pinto:
I believe there have been such meeting before. Allow people their own way of
understanding, through their own forums.If Goa is to heal then we have to be
willing to hear people out.
Response:
Dear Ven,
I have no objection to the HJS / SS or any other organisation holding any
This is the kind of activity the HJS / SS is engaged in. Refer report in
Times of India dt 26.12.2008 below.
Regards,
Marshall
NAVI MUMBAI: A carol performance in Navi Mumbai had to be shifted to
another venue after a right-wing organisation allegedly forced the original
host, a school in
Here is an interesting article on funding of organisations in India engaged
in violence by Indian expatriates:
Excerpts:
Rekhi, global chairman of The IndUS Entrepreneurs, an organisation of South
Asian businesspeople, claimed that money collected by Indian Hindus in
America and sent to
Santosh Helekar:
What we are seeing is a simple over-reaction to issues that are in some
cases wrongly portrayed through a unidimensional communal narrative.
Response:
According to reports 14 districts out of of 30 and 300 Villages, 4,400
Houses burnt, 50,000 Homeless, 59 People killed including
Sandeep Heble:
Many people commit the fundamental error of equating an anti-BJP post with
an anti-Hindu post. There are a lot of Hindus who do not see eye-to-eye with
the ideologies of the BJP or the Sangh Parivar so it would be ridiculous to
equate an anti-BJP stance to an anti-Hindu stance.
Santosh Helekar:
It looks like attempts are being made in this forum to show Hindu NRIs in
bad light by picking and choosing articles and excerpts from the internet,
and creating the impression that facts are being reported.
Response:
1. It is interesting how the poster draws conclusions that
Miguel Braganza:
the concerned Bishop in Orissa even swore a affidavit wrongly stating that
VHP leader Dr. Pravin Togadia had threatened an Asti Kalash procession
when the most Indians know that swamis are buried.
Response:
Miguel appears to have been carried away with his eloquence. Though it is
Vinay Natekar:
I remember some days back there was a debate on Goanet regarding Pakistani
School Textbooks having hate agenda against India. See how Pakistan
Government is filling innocent minds with hatred from the childhood against
India and Indian culture.
Response:
You have raised a very
Here is an interesting article more suited to our times and which should
make every right thinking individual sit up and think.
Excerpts:
The U.S. government should consider naming the individuals responsible for
leading these groups as terrorists by adding them to the U.S. list of
Specially
Santosh Helekar:
He believes that all readers of Goanet, Christian and non-Christian, buy his
version of events and his facts, and that he speaks for all Goanet when he
poses rhetorical questions to some of us like Miguel, Sandeep and myself who
do not fall for his one-sided partisan propaganda.
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