My most active game currently serving thousands of players daily, but
it is very profitable. One good thing of AppEngine is it scale, but
still the reliability of datastore hurts a bit consistently.
On Dec 3, 12:16 pm, Shane wrote:
> Hi Raymond,
>
> It's interesting you're using GAE for games.
Presuming that RightScale is within your budget (seems it might be) and
presuming that RightScale does a seamless job scaling out Zynga's gaming
apps (I don't play their games, but I'd guess they work well) and presuming
that there is no impact on your development process (I don't have any sense
fo
Do we need to set the ContentType of the response?
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Hi Rafael,
Do all users care about the same timer, or does each user have their
own, or is there one timer for a group, or something else? Do you
need to push the remaining time at particular time for some reason?
Robert
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 20:35, Rafael Sierra wrote:
> I know that
Hi Kuber,
Are you talking about 'includes' in app.yaml?
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/config/appconfig.html#Includes
I think the docs there explain it pretty well. The basic idea is
that you could write a package, or split your app into packages, and
include an 'include.ya
Thanks Ikai, much appreciated.
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BTW Adam, thanks for the Linode and SOLR references. Very cool.
On Dec 3, 8:09 am, Adam Sah wrote:
> I'm a *very* longtime GAE user and former googler and I love it... but
> for now,
> I usually recommend it as an *ingredient* and not as the backbone
> of the
> whole system.
>
> Specifical
Hi Raymond,
It's interesting you're using GAE for games. The key is, what sort of
games? Can you send a link to your games?
Also, the critical point is what scale are you running at? If it's
millions of Daily Active Users, then you're in the domain that I'm
interested in, otherwise the problem
This is a great use of GAE, however the web front end is the guts of a
social game. The application servlets are what are going to be doing
most of the work, so they need to be on a reliable infrastructure.
Shane
On Dec 3, 1:55 pm, James Broberg wrote:
> Couldn't agree with Adam more. Why not u
Hi Adam,
Thanks for the response. One way I was considering approaching the
issue of keeping the doors open to migrate back to GAE at a later
date, is to use something like AppScale on AWS. This way I can be
more or less on the same path as GAE.
I am really keen to see the GAE for Business plan
I have having the same issue for 2 months now and its still happening
as of writing.
On Dec 3, 4:21 am, Ikai Lan wrote:
> We're rolling back a change that was made earlier causing these issues. The
> error rates should be dying down. We should be operating normally soon.
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> On Thu,
I have been purely using AppEngine for hosting social games for nearly
2 years now and heres my thought:
AppEngine is decided for read heavy websites which have been
emphasized by googler for long. Its not true for dynamic/social games
which more than 50% operations are write operations. The data
Great! What's the ETA for the SDK in Eclipse? The plugin is at 1.4.0 but the
SDK bundle for Eclipse is still 1.3.8
On 3 December 2010 07:14, Ikai Lan (Google)
> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> Version 1.4.0 is officially released! Documentation will go live shortly.
> In the meantime, check out our b
Couldn't agree with Adam more. Why not use both? For MetaCDN.com we use GAE
as the "web role" / front end and do the heavy lifting (large file
replication, video encoding, etc) on EC2 instances around the globe on an as
needed basis.
On 3 December 2010 08:09, Adam Sah wrote:
> I'm a *very* longt
Juts spoke to Nick Johnson on IRC and he clarified the position
somewhat.
It should read.
"In the Python runtime, an instance is killed and restarted when a
request handler hits DeadlineExceededError *during a cold start and
the exception is not caught. (and not when a request hits a warm
instanc
Hi Ikai
Thanks for the clarification, (JohnP's description is probably clearer
if accurate, compared with the release notes)
I think this in general is a good move, though I am still concerned
that if you get past the imports
and actually are doing work (like rendering a template) during a
startu
Hi Ikai, can you explain "When iterating over query results, the datastore
will now asynchronously prefetch results, reducing latency in many cases by
10-15%."?
Does it only affect the pattern:
for entity in query:
...
Can we get this benefit by using cursor?
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While you can always import python library in code, what's this new
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include packages by i
Thanks for the great work!!
This release not only helps to do apps easier, it also opens new kind
of things that are possible with the App Engine.
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On Dec 2, 5:14 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)"
wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> Version 1.4.0 is o
I'm still having constant problems - at least 50% of deployments are
still failing right now.
On Dec 2, 3:30 pm, Daniel wrote:
> Still broken for me. Another day, another problem with app engine...
>
> On Dec 2, 2:14 pm, Amir wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > It's working again.
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Whenever you see a 503 on deploy, can you try turning off precompilation and
giving it a try? We've been having issues with this service lately.
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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:46 PM, tukutel
The data centers are in North America. For the most part, users in the
United States will not notice latencies. For users outside the United
States, the request goes like this:
- Request goes to a geographically close Google front end data center
- From the Google data center, requests are routed
We can. Can you email me any more information about the application ID or
email header information?
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On Tue, N
BigQuery would certainly work, but I don't think it's a fit for this
project. BigQuery is best used for very, very large datasets that do not
change. The Google I/O demo was based on every single edit ever made to
Wikipedia - this data is effectively immutable.
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I know that I cannot share Client IDs between multiple users, but I
still need something like a broadcast message system.
Today, users make requests in regular intervals to get the update of
the information, let's say a timer counting down like a bomb, each
client asks the server how much time lef
It looks like a 1 to 1 relationship so why not denormalize the name class to
include the fields of your address class?
Jeff
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM, fb wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a question regarding querying when using unowned relationships.
> I'm having real problems working this out due
Some urls of my application started to return server error from
yesterday and they still do so now.
The home page can be loaded although slow. Some links from the homepage
work, some always don't since yesterday.
Also, I deployed a new version with minor layout change, the problem is
not solved and
Although it's hard to say exactly what Zynga is doing, I certainly
know how I would approach the problem, and for a start I'd use
RightScale to manage our instances to avoid the problems to quite
rightly mention. :)
Cheers,
Shane
On Dec 3, 4:34 am, Eli Jones wrote:
> Maybe one of the Google deve
Yes, we're definitely going to use RightScale with AWS if we take that
path. It takes away a lot of the headaches Eli mentioned.
Shane
On Dec 3, 5:03 am, Grzegorz Machniewski
wrote:
> > Do you know how Zynga's backend is set up on AWS? I would imagine it's
>
> pretty complex so, you have to ha
Hello,
Is there any good reason for:
"create_upload_url(success_path)
...
The handler at that path can process the rest of the form, and must
return a response with an HTTP redirect code (301, 302, 303)."
It makes form validation a PITA - in case of invalid input I have to
use some kind of stora
So it could be rephrased from:
"In the Python runtime, an instance is killed and restarted when a
request handler hits DeadlineExceededError. "
to:
"In the Python runtime, an instance is killed and restarted when a
request handler hits DeadlineExceededError *during a cold start (and
not when a r
Hi everyone,
Just a newbie to AppEngine, I've created the App, run using localhost
and appspot.com domains without problems, but cannot for some reason
get to the Dashboard. It always redirects me to
https://appengine.google.com/start this happens regardless of how many
apps I create locally then
No, this is specifically to address DeadlineExceededExceptions on cold
starts. Partial imports due to this exception on startup can cause apps to
end up in a bad state.
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This (issue 4109) appears fixed in the official 1.4.0 release. Thanks
for fixing it and for giving us the opportunity to find and report
such issues before the release ships. I was also pleased to verify
that a 1.3.8 regression (issue 3895 & 3907) is also fixed.
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On Nov 22
Hi,
I have a question regarding querying when using unowned relationships.
I'm having real problems working this out due to no real JOIN syntax.
Anyway, my problem is simple to explain. I have a Name class whose
objects I am persisting:
@PersistenceCapable(identityType = IdentityType.APPLICATION
Hi Ikai
So if we catch a deadline exceeded is the instance recycled ? (I hope
not)
Just trying to understand when the instance will be recycled. For
instance
if a deadlineexceeded occurs during imports then recycling is probably
good.
a deadlineexceeded during a query causing a recycling of the
On Thursday, December 2, 2010 11:02:47 PM UTC, Remigius wrote:Tim,
after a first glimpse on the newly published channel doc - still wet -
it looks like:
o only one client is allowed per cannel id
o no clean-up is needed
o connected clients must be tracked by the server
Yep - the docs at
htt
Tim, it should be on any DeadlineExceededError.
David, I don't have a diff. Is there anything in particular you are looking
for?
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Thank you! great work done!
Still I am not able to access Datastore Admin.
First time I visit it I am prompted to login with Google Account, once I
login, I get this error:
Error: Forbidden Your client does not have permission to get URL
/_ah/datastore_admin/?app_id=cloudbidder&kind=__unapplied_w
Hi Ikae
Can you elaborate on
In the Python runtime, an instance is killed and restarted when a
request
handler hits DeadlineExceededError. This should fix an issue related
to
intermittent SystemErrors using Django.
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=772
Is this for
Tim,
after a first glimpse on the newly published channel doc - still wet -
it looks like:
o only one client is allowed per cannel id
o no clean-up is needed
o connected clients must be tracked by the server
If you plan to create an entity per active channel in the datastore -
this could be a ch
On Dec 2, 10:14 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)"
wrote:
> - The developer who uploaded an app version can download that version's code
> using the appcfg.py download_app command. This feature can be disabled on
> a per application basis in the admin console, under the 'Permissions' tab.
> Once disabl
Thanks docs for the task retry params have a minor spelling error
'retryies'.
Ikai: Any chance you could provide a diff between the 1.3.8 and 1.4.0
documentation?
~ David
On Dec 2, 1:17 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)"
wrote:
> The documentation should be live. Example:
>
> Channel API:
>
> http://code
+1 api-status.com appears to represent status more truthfully. That
is just my feel though. I do not understand how google status is all
"green" while a few developers have been screaming that HTTP PUT,
DELETE requests do not work at all. TaskQueue delays went nuts last
night, etc.
On Dec 2, 7:5
Will i have any trouble with the app i'm developing if i upgrade to the
1.4.0 SDK? Or upgrading is recommended?
2010/12/2 Ikai Lan (Google)
>
> The documentation should be live. Example:
>
> Channel API:
>
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/channel/
>
> If you see an error, wait a few
The documentation should be live. Example:
Channel API:
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/channel/
If you see an error, wait a few minutes and refresh again.
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The admin console for version 1.4.0 is live. You should be able to enable
"Always On" instances now if billing is enabled.
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I'm a *very* longtime GAE user and former googler and I love it... but
for now,
I usually recommend it as an *ingredient* and not as the backbone
of the
whole system.
Specifically, GAE can't support certain libraries (e.g. anything with
C/C++),
so you inevitably need another service like
Thanks for the report. The fix for this bug will be deployed later in the
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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:44 PM
Thanks, this is an exciting release. Any chance you could provide a
diff between the 1.3.8 and 1.4.0 documentation?
~ David
On Dec 2, 12:14 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)"
wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> Version 1.4.0 is officially released! Documentation will go live shortly. In
> the meantime, check out
Thank you Google.
However I've noticed what can only be a bug. According to the
dashboard Task Queue Stored Task Bytes quota is 1,099,511,627,776,000
bytes or about 1100TB. I doubt 100,000,000,000 for Task Queue Stored
Task Count is correct either.
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Still broken for me. Another day, another problem with app engine...
On Dec 2, 2:14 pm, Amir wrote:
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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ikai Lan (Google)
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> Update: We had to roll back the admin console updates. It'll go live later.
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503 usually implies there's something wrong with precompilation. Can you try
disabling precompilation and trying again?
There are currently other issues globally due to a change we made that we
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Yeah, there was an issue with a change we made. We're rolling back the
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We're rolling back a change that was made earlier causing these issues. The
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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Jason Collins wrote:
> I forgot to mention: the model that always seem to be part of this
> avalanche has
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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:14 PM, I
Hey everyone,
Version 1.4.0 is officially released! Documentation will go live shortly. In
the meantime, check out our blog post:
http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2010/12/happy-holidays-from-app-engine-team-140.html
Release notes are below:
Python
- The Always On feature allows
My _application_ logs are missing for a few minutes as well:
[02/Dec/2010:10:03:00 -0800] to
[02/Dec/2010:10:06:19 -0800]
Requests were logged.
Robert
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 14:32, Chris Copeland wrote:
> Please star this issue:
> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id
I forgot to mention: the model that always seem to be part of this
avalanche has many composite indexes: 63.
j
On Dec 2, 2:01 pm, Jason Collins wrote:
> Hi Per,
>
> We have been seeing similar bursts of DeadlineExceededErrors (DEE) on
> our application (appid: steprep), and we have been seeing t
FYI, see similar variations on non-loading requests too. The loading
requests are just a bit more extreme.
Robert
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 15:04, Robert Kluin wrote:
> Wild variations here too.
>
> Here is a bit of log data (for the same URL):
> [02/Dec/2010:11:52:35 -0800] ms=10079 cpu_ms=7
Wild variations here too.
Here is a bit of log data (for the same URL):
[02/Dec/2010:11:52:35 -0800] ms=10079 cpu_ms=752 api_cpu_ms=262
cpm_usd=0.021384 loading_request=1 pending_ms=8149
[02/Dec/2010:11:52:21 -0800] ms=1420 cpu_ms=312 api_cpu_ms=8
cpm_usd=0.008862 loading_request=1
[02/Dec/2010:1
Hi Per,
We have been seeing similar bursts of DeadlineExceededErrors (DEE) on
our application (appid: steprep), and we have been seeing this for
some time (weeks).
The symptom: datastore put()'s that normally take 100-150ms to
complete suddenly take 30-s+ and cause a DEE. Usually, many processes
$ dig _netblocks.google.com TXT
will give you the ranges. But they are nesserially broad, and pretty
much include the whole of Google - not just AppEngine.
(they are of course for SPF but apprently urlfetchs should always come
from the range too - also no idea how often it changes)
On 2 December
Hi,
I hope this is the right place to ask this question.
I have an application that I'd like to implement using app engine. It
needs to send messages via an SMS gateway. The gateway offers
a http interface and so I was planning to use a cron-driven URL fetch
to send the SMS requests. The problem
Hi Per,
I started a thread about issues with having put()s in your on-line
handler. Although my initial concern was a little different (how to
best confirm writes), it did verge toward the issues I think you are
facing.
My conclusion is that any put() to a model with complex indexes will
need to
Please star this issue:
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3338
Out of the 111 unacknowledged production issues, this is currently #1 with
19 stars.
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Andy wrote:
> So, whenever I am able to access the admin panel while it's not
> erroring,
Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of datastore timeouts for my app
(gqueues) and frequent 500 Server Errors.
One minute everything is running super fast, the next I get 500
errors. Very frustrating. And my customers just think the app is
unreliable and not robust.
Any word on what's going on today?
It's working again.
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I am also getting this error on two different apps when trying to
update. Error starts at the "Cloning X application files" stage.
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I believe Google's datacenter is located in California, so it
shouldn't matter where you upload from.
On Dec 2, 1:13 am, hpbg delta wrote:
> I want make sure the user connects is effectuation in American if I
> upload the project from Taiwan.
>
> or user in Taiwan more fast connect the web data t
Likewise. I'm getting 500s too.
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I'm seeing 2000-8000 pending_ms lately. Is there an infrastructure
disturbance?
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I've gotten two 500 errors in a row when trying to update an existing
version of my app engine/python app. Seems like whatever has been
breaking is still broken.
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> Do you know how Zynga's backend is set up on AWS? I would imagine it's
pretty complex so, you have to have the system architects and administrators
to manage that.
Zynga is using RightScale as a platform management software (
http://www.rightscale.com/ )... it automates management and scaling
I want make sure the user connects is effectuation in American if I
upload the project from Taiwan.
or user in Taiwan more fast connect the web data than in American.
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I'm trying to deploy code and am getting this message:
Scanning files on local disk.
Initiating update.
Email:
Password:
Cloning 111 static files.
Cloned 100 files.
Cloning 61 application files.
Precompilation starting.
Rolling back the update.
Error 503: --- begin server output ---
Try Again (50
So, whenever I am able to access the admin panel while it's not
erroring, I'm trying to view the request logs.
But all the logging info is missing - debugs, infos, errors, all gone.
I also get a 500 error when trying to download the request logs.
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There seems to me to be a gap in the API, to query the size of a task
queue. I want to know how many queued tasks/bytes/etc are on a task
queue, (and its configured rate and bucket size, while I'm at it).
We're running into a problem where our app enqueue's many tasks for one
user, and then no ot
Maybe one of the Google developers will see this and can provide you with an
informed answer.. but, if it slips through the cracks, you should definitely
ask during the IRC office hours (or just check #appengine on
irc.freenode.net, since someone from Google may be there at any time.)
Do you know
I found the answer to this myself last night: I just deleted the
google_appengine_launcher.ini file that was giving me the error.
Hope this helps someone!
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I checked my app, which has a chained task that follows a fixed schedule
(every 5 mins.) So, It should execute at 8:00:00AM, 8:05:00AM, 8:10:00AM,
etc.
I saw a 80 second delay in it at 8:06:21AM and then another 80 second delay
at 8:32:00 AM (there is a one time task that follows each 5 minute ta
Thank you! That is a very helpful link.
On Dec 2, 3:46 pm, Erwin Streur wrote:
> In another topic somebody mentioned api-status.com.
> Indeed I find the following page to represent the GAE status much
> better:http://api-status.com/6404/117406/Google-App-Engine-API
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You can only run pure python, on appengine (and of course java ;-)
T
On Dec 2, 9:54 pm, BarrenTeam wrote:
> Hello, I have a .so.2 (C library) and a Python interface that wrapper
> this library. The interface uses ctypes but i think that ctypes is
> incompatible with gae python environement,
No-- you can only use modules that are 100% Python.
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:54 AM, BarrenTeam wrote:
> Hello, I have a .so.2 (C library) and a Python interface that wrapper
> this library. The interface uses ctypes but i think that ctypes is
> incompatible with gae python environement, (right !
Hello, I have a .so.2 (C library) and a Python interface that wrapper
this library. The interface uses ctypes but i think that ctypes is
incompatible with gae python environement, (right !? )
I have another interface for the same library that uses numpy but also
this python module is incompatible w
I had the same issue two or three days ago. Now it seems that logs are
consistent.
On 2 December 2010 13:59, Denis wrote:
> I have the same issue along with Server error 500.
> There was a bug in code - on my side - but server went down and no
> logs
> were seen. On next day seems issue gone.
>
>
Hello Community,
After your last message in "Google App Engine Downtime Notify"
http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify/t/d2b4ce71754bade5
My errors/s have decreased! (http://goo.gl/kJBVo)
Thank a lot!
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I have the same issue along with Server error 500.
There was a bug in code - on my side - but server went down and no
logs
were seen. On next day seems issue gone.
On 1 дек, 20:17, Peter Ondruska wrote:
> This is very "me too", please start mentioned issue hopefully it gets
> resolved (soon).
>
You will need to provide a lot more information if you want anyone to
help you.
At least start with the error/stack trace from the dashboards logs.
T
On Dec 2, 6:42 pm, syduzzaman shemul wrote:
> Error: Server Error The server encountered an error and could not
> complete your request.
> If the
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I only needed one script to make i18n: "compile-messages.py",
just run it and it updates any edited .po to .mo that connects the
translations,
somewhat contrary to what the manual states which is running 2 or more
scripts.
It worked on windows and on Linux when having gettext installed.
I hope you
On Thursday, December 2, 2010 4:42:55 AM UTC, sophware wrote:looks like
the server side is up:
check http://shell.appspot.com/
(screenshot)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6919071/Captures/2010-12-01_2341.png
Google App Engine/1.4.0
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, May 12 2010, 14:18:27)
[GCC 4.3.1]
Thanks
On Thursday, December 2, 2010 9:26:38 AM UTC, Remigius wrote:In case
you don't know, there's a sample app using channels:
http://code.google.com/p/dance-dance-robot/
http://dance-dance-robot.appspot.com/
Thanks - I'd heard of that but to be honest hadn't looked at the code
as it's a Java demo
Hi Tim,
In the (current) absence of any answers by more educated people than
me, I allow myself to post to this thread.
In case you don't know, there's a sample app using channels:
http://code.google.com/p/dance-dance-robot/
http://dance-dance-robot.appspot.com/
I haven't looked at the code yet
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