Re: [google-appengine] Channel API is working locally But not in production throws provided token is invalid

2012-03-14 Thread Andrin von Rechenberg
BIG LETTERS SUCK. File a production issue if you are sure that it's not your fault: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:54 PM, praveen kumar wrote: > I will create channel Id(token) using Channel API in server side., > In the client side using this token

[google-appengine] Re: It seems "Cold Starts" is an unavoidable problem for GAE. So why not to conquer it?

2012-03-14 Thread Tapir
On Mar 14, 1:17 pm, Gopal Patel wrote: > you mean, always have one instance more than required ? ( who is going to > pay for that ? ) , and is not minimum idle instance same thing ? It is different with the normal resident instance. It is an instance to handle requests only at the time of the s

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Outages?

2012-03-14 Thread Mos
> Potential fix: set performance sliders to auto. No, that doesn't help in general. I'm running from the start with auto and having the problem. It's still not fixed; would be nice to get some feedback from Google ?! On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Mauricio Aristizabal wrote: > Potential fix:

[google-appengine] Re: Outages?

2012-03-14 Thread Nicanor Babula
Now my app is working fine. What happened? I saw at some point my app's graphs reset and some huge values for instance hours values. Afterwards, the instance hours counters turned to normal and my app stpped raising errors. If there was the GAE team working on it, thank you very much, but I thi

[google-appengine] Re: How to secure the SDK

2012-03-14 Thread Simon Knott
Why would your SDK be available to the outside world? It's a development tool, no different to any development environments - lock it down via the network infrastructure, as you would any other development environment. If you have production data in your dev environment and it contains sensiti

[google-appengine] Re: How to secure the SDK

2012-03-14 Thread Kaan Soral
Why? - because sometimes you have to work with external systems and they have to work with you - even on the development level On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:42:59 AM UTC+2, Simon Knott wrote: > > Why would your SDK be available to the outside world? It's a development > tool, no different to

Re: [google-appengine] Re: How to secure the SDK

2012-03-14 Thread Aidan O'Kelly
Still should be a network security concern, ie, setup a secure vpn, or allow limited access to a range of IP's through your firewall. The java version of the SDK at least, has a -bindAddress option. Binding to 127.0.0.1 will mean the server will only listen for requests from your machine. (It set i

[google-appengine] Design problem - How to avoid datastore contention

2012-03-14 Thread Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui
Hi all I have a question on stackoverflow about avoiding datastore contention, if anybody can help me. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9700388/avoiding-datastore-contention Thanks a lot! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" grou

Re: [google-appengine] Re: How to secure the SDK

2012-03-14 Thread Kaan Soral
Great idea What would be an easy solution to permit access for only a range of IP's? Preferrably with logging etc to deny first and allow later. On windows and for a network noob - This is probably not the right place for asking this but it would be great if any of you have suggestions -- You

Re: [google-appengine] Re: How to secure the SDK

2012-03-14 Thread Barry Hunter
Can use the windows firewall http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows-vista/Open-a-port-in-Windows-Firewall to open the port - and configure who can access it. Its probably worth using a non default port (ie not 80) - to make it harder for people to find. (the dev server allows you to choose a

[google-appengine] Very high latency since March 13th

2012-03-14 Thread andidol
Hi, I have very high latency on my AppEngine since yesterday. It was really fast before < 100ms. Now there are a lot of requests performing with > 200ms without any reason. I did not update or did anything. I'm using High Replication Datastore. Thanks -- You received this message because you

[google-appengine] Re: High Replication latencies and it's related costs.

2012-03-14 Thread andidol
Have the same problem. HR datastore is very slow since yesterday.. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:17:47 AM UTC+1, thecheatah wrote: > > Hi, > > I am noticing that the latency on my HR based application went up > significantly. My app does a simple read and a write. It is taking > over 1 second

Re: [google-appengine] Re: It seems "Cold Starts" is an unavoidable problem for GAE. So why not to conquer it?

2012-03-14 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Tapir wrote: > > On Mar 14, 1:17 pm, Gopal Patel wrote: >> you mean, always have one instance more than required ? ( who is going to >> pay for that ? ) , and is not minimum idle instance same thing ? > > It is different with the normal resident instance. > It is

[google-appengine] Memcache issues 3/14

2012-03-14 Thread Sekhar
We're getting a series of memcache issues. Anyone else? This after many data store errors yesterday. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine

[google-appengine] More then 100 complains and no feedback from Google. Was: Outages?

2012-03-14 Thread Mos
Problem still exists: High latency and a significant number of requests fail or result in uncontrolled creation of new instances. GAE customers complain and complain for days. It seems like many website have to accept that the 500-error is an integral feature of the GAE run-time. Even worse: The

[google-appengine] SITE SLOW AND DOWN

2012-03-14 Thread agp
I am getting a ton of issues like this today making the site basicly down because they get a error page with a stack trace (pasted below): 2012-03-14 10:41:34.194 [s~madisonpsa/8.356247106902853044].: [ERROR] CacheServiceImpl - -Memcache put: Error setting single item (org.vosao.entity.LanguageEn

[google-appengine] Re: Memcache issues 3/14

2012-03-14 Thread agp
I am too, I just put a different post out here about it. On Mar 14, 10:16 am, Sekhar wrote: > We're getting a series of memcache issues. Anyone else? This after many > data store errors yesterday. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine"

RE: [google-appengine] More then 100 complains and no feedback from Google. Was: Outages?

2012-03-14 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Nah it is all shiny. And that couple of hours when there are no logs, that was just cause everyone was sleeping. This is just a pretty picture. It's not related to this thread. J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To pos

Re: [google-appengine] More then 100 complains and no feedback from Google. Was: Outages?

2012-03-14 Thread alex
same here. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:29:58 PM UTC+1, Brandon Wirtz wrote: > > Nah it is all shiny… And that couple of hours when there are

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Problem with mail quota

2012-03-14 Thread Christina Ilvento
Hi All, We recently made a change that causes the 100 email/day quota to only be lifted once a charge has been successfully cleared. Did you recently enable billing, or has billing been enabled for more than one week? Thanks, Christina On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Daniel wrote: > I'm seei

Re: [google-appengine] More then 100 complains and no feedback from Google. Was: Outages?

2012-03-14 Thread alex
Funny... maybe I'm not getting something here but, where's the issue? It is crystal clear from your graphs that you are being billed for 1 instance only, all the times. Can you show CPU ms used/sec and Errors/sec graphs? On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:50:04 PM UTC+1, Mos wrote: > > And here ar

Re: [google-appengine] More then 100 complains and no feedback from Google. Was: Outages?

2012-03-14 Thread alex
Well, I don't personally think that every filed ticket means a real issue. It often happens that the issue is in the code or something else, unrelated. In fact, in your graphs the API calls CPU is as low as it always was. That means the cause is neither Datastore, nor Memcache or any other servi

RE: [google-appengine] More then 100 complains and no feedback from Google. Was: Outages?

2012-03-14 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Non-payed apps have rules all of their own, they get slow sometimes for no reason. I would not say this is an issue, it just is you are in the lowest tier so if you get squished no one cares.. I think QoS/QoE is set this way on purpose. From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google

Re: [google-appengine] More then 100 complains and no feedback from Google. Was: Outages?

2012-03-14 Thread Mos
Thanks for your thoughts > In fact, in your graphs the API calls CPU is as low as it always was CPU for API calls is not related to latency and timeouts, right? To the contrary: Waiting for a an API call could lower CPU, doesn't it? --> It seems not to help for this analysis > ... using (e

Re: [google-appengine] More then 100 complains and no feedback from Google. Was: Outages?

2012-03-14 Thread alex
"Waiting for a an API call could lower CPU" - well, that depends. If you're running in threadsafe mode enabled then yes, maybe. Total CPU means exactly what it says: total, i.e. API calls + your app code CPU. Say, if you have a Total CPU of 1ms and the blue line is at 9900ms, that means onl

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Memcache issues 3/14

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Can you describe the issues and post an app ID? Ex: Expected: Memcache performs with under a 0.1% error rate typically on GET Observed: Memcache times out after 5 seconds on 10% of GETs If there are specific reproduction steps, those are very useful too (we're all software engineers too, so it he

Re: [google-appengine] SITE SLOW AND DOWN

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Tony, A stack trace is usually not enough information. I've seen you post in another thread. Can you follow those steps? -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine plus.ikailan.com On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:45 AM, agp wrote: > I am getting a ton of issues like this today maki

Re: [google-appengine] Re: How to secure the SDK

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
This is a great question for StackOverflow because you'll get a lot more responses if you tag it correctly. On Linux you have a lot of options. One of the easiest ones is iptables. Well ... "easiest". PERSONAL OPINION ALERT: I highly recommend learning Linux or working with a *nix system. I find

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Outages?

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
We've been working on addressing the issues with HRD apps. Your experience is probably a coincidence. There is a very small section of apps that will have a few requests (very small %) that will be a LOT slower. We've scheduled a maintenance period for March 19th that will attempt to address iss

Re: [google-appengine] More then 100 complains and no feedback from Google. Was: Outages?

2012-03-14 Thread alex
What Brandon is trying to say here, I think, is that SLA covers only paid apps. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:39:41 PM UTC+1, Brandon Wirtz wrote: > > Non-payed apps have rules all of their own, they get slow sometimes for no > reason. I would not say this is an issue, it just is you are in th

Re: [google-appengine] High Replication latencies and it's related costs.

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Can you post the code about what you are doing? "Simple read and write" isn't descriptive enough. There have been issues with High Replication, but these are/have been addressed. -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine plus.ikailan.com On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:17 PM, theche

[google-appengine] Re: High Replication latencies and it's related costs.

2012-03-14 Thread thecheatah
The over all requests/second have been consistent from day to day. I am talking about the ability of a single machine's ability to handle requests/second. Ravneet On Mar 14, 12:19 am, Gopal Patel wrote: > if request/second dropped, nothing could be done. latency has nothing to do > with request/

Re: [google-appengine] Very high latency since March 13th

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
We're addressing issues with high replication datastore applications. In the future, however, this information is typically not enough. What are you doing? Are you making datastore calls? Are you doing URLFetch? Are you making XMPP or email API calls? Are CPU intensive tasks slower? This is import

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Outages?

2012-03-14 Thread Felippe Bueno
Hello all. Only to share my information: My app is doing something like this: JS="xpto" JS_OPTOUT="xpto1" if request.cookie.has_key("optout") or request.headers.has_key("DNT") response.write(JS_OPTOUT) else response.write(JS) The normal latency is ~3ms Now I'm seeing 13.9 ms Earlier this mo

Re: [google-appengine] Design problem - How to avoid datastore contention

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Looks like it was answered, and pretty well, too. In general, it's not really necessary to post both to StackOverflow and groups. -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine plus.ikailan.com On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:48 AM, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui < sahid.ferdja...@gmail.com> w

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Datastore offline as of 3:40pm PST

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
I've updated the status page for the network disruption yesterday: http://code.google.com/status/appengine Dishonesty is not the intention. There's been talk about rebuilding the status site from scratch because a lot of the reporting could use improvement - there's a view some team members share

Re: [google-appengine] Java Error code 104: A problem was encountered with the process that handled this request, causing it to exit

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Matt, There was definitely an issue with Java HRD when you posted this. We've been addressing these issues. Are you still seeing issues? -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine plus.ikailan.com On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Matt Mastracci wrote: > Hey all, > > Has anyon

Re: [google-appengine] using GAE with javascript

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
I wouldn't say dancing - we just don't provide that kind of access. Even if we ever did in the future, we would likely wrap an auth layer around it (probably OAuth 2.0). This might be the closest thing you are looking for: http://code.google.com/p/google-protorpc/ But I don't have any thoughts a

Re: [google-appengine] Channel API not working in production

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Praveen, Try asking this question on StackOverflow: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/google-appengine/Z6XN_64cA7w Also, it would be helpful to provide more details when you do. "It sucks" is terrible information. That kind of feedback is not actionable. -- Ikai Lan Developer P

Re: [google-appengine] Is it possible to query Datastore by parameter of Date?

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Tony, Try asking this question on StackOverflow with the google-app-engine tag: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/google-appengine/Z6XN_64cA7w -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine plus.ikailan.com On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Tony Yang wrote: > Dea

[google-appengine] Do maintentance periods really have to be during core working hours?

2012-03-14 Thread Per
Although I'm overall happy with GAE, and I know that the maintenance periods "only" affect M/S. And I don't mind the occasional one either. But I find it increasingly frustrating that they always have to be scheduled in the middle of the week, and during a time that most of our US clients would

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Memcache issues 3/14

2012-03-14 Thread Sekhar
Sure, thanks for responding. Our app is wellaho-sanitas. Below are few of the many error traces we saw this morning, hope these will help pin down the issue. I'll be happy to give additional details. 1. 2012-03-14 08:11:18.736 /gwtRequest 200 6058ms 0kb Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW6

Re: [google-appengine] Do maintentance periods really have to be during core working hours?

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Our next maintenance period is from 6-8pm, but that's a coincidence more than any other reason. First off, we really want to encourage you to migrate to High Replication. I can't stress this enough. This allows us to do lots of work to App Engine without impacting your application's service. I kno

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Memcache issues 3/14

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
What do you expect to happen? What are you putting? What percentage of errors are you seeing? Is this still happening? -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine plus.ikailan.com On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Sekhar wrote: > Sure, thanks for responding. > > Our app is wella

Re: [google-appengine] More then 100 complains and no feedback from Google. Was: Outages?

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Mos, There have been several responses posted to various threads. I'll go back to those threads and update if there is new information. The disruption to HRD has been posted to the System Status site, and a new maintenance period has been announced on Monday to deal with Master/Slave serving issue

[google-appengine] serving images stored in the cloud storage as files

2012-03-14 Thread hugues2
Hi, Just one quick question, what is the url to used in the internet browser to display images that have been stored in the Google cloud storage through Google App Engine ? Also, what prevents other people to be granted access to these images if they have the access url ? Thanks a lot for your

[google-appengine] Admin email size limit?

2012-03-14 Thread Mars
Is there a size limit for sending email to admins using mail.send_mail_to_admins()? I'm getting the following exception: File "/base/python27_runtime/python27_lib/versions/1/google/ appengine/api/mail.py", line 418, in send_mail_to_admins message.send(make_sync_call) File "/base/python27_r

[google-appengine] Re: Datastore offline as of 3:40pm PST

2012-03-14 Thread John
On Friday, March 9, 2012 4:17:01 PM UTC-8, blackpawn wrote: > > It seemed like a complete failure. My app does use the capabilities API > and handles read only properly but no non-static requests succeeded. Even > requests that only wind up hitting memcache were failing too actually. The > e

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Datastore offline as of 3:40pm PST

2012-03-14 Thread blackpawn
Thanks for keeping us up to date Ikai! On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:37:00 PM UTC-7, Ikai Lan wrote: > > I've updated the status page for the network disruption yesterday: > > http://code.google.com/status/appengine > > Dishonesty is not the intention. There's been talk about rebuilding the > s

[google-appengine] Does the python dev server have this flag: Ddatastore.default_high_rep_job_policy_unapplied_job_pct? Java does

2012-03-14 Thread Kurt
Hi, I'm testing my HR migration and I'm using the --high_replication flag on the dev server. It seems to be saving data too fast - I cannot get inconsistent results on subsequent responses (despite querying across entity groups). I notice the java server has: Ddatastore.default_high_rep_job_

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Memcache issues 3/14

2012-03-14 Thread Sekhar Ravinutala
Well, I expect not to get errors, of course. I'm putting entity (JPA) instances on the cache. I see a whole bunch of memcache errors (read as well as write on multiple entities) on the log between 8:06am and 8:12am today, and no errors since. Thanks, -Sekhar On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Ikai

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Memcache issues 3/14

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Okay. I'm going to leave this issue alone for the time being as it seems to have been transient, possibly a symptom of some of the other things going on/ongoing production work (but I shouldn't speculate). There are other, more pressing issues globally at the moment. -- Ikai Lan Developer Program

[google-appengine] Re: using GAE with javascript

2012-03-14 Thread that an
Thanks for the link. I really appreciate the response straight from the source. And it helps confirm for me that I'm probably looking for something that doesn't yet exist. But what is the barrier for Google providing access to GAE via javascript? GWT is, after all, converted to javascript when

Re: [google-appengine] Re: using GAE with javascript

2012-03-14 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
For raw access, pretty much the barrier is demand. There's some argument for raw datastore access via Javascript, but then there are all kinds of messy business logic and security that you'd have to specify anyway. Unless you are just talking about using HTML5 and Javascript to talk to Python/Java

[google-appengine] Re: Do maintentance periods really have to be during core working hours?

2012-03-14 Thread Greg
Just a reminder that "core working hours" for many of us are different from yours. Back when we were on MS, it seemed like every outage was in New Zealand working hours. Basically Google get it in the neck from somewhere around the globe no matter when they schedule their maintenance. And the real

RE: [google-appengine] Re: Do maintentance periods really have to be during core working hours?

2012-03-14 Thread Brandon Wirtz
I chose M/S because even more than a mermaid, I want a girl in a Dominatrix outfit. (I got the pool, so I'm one step closer on the Mermaid thing) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google

[google-appengine] Need some info related to speckle

2012-03-14 Thread Vivek More
Hi, I read somewhere that we can use *speckle* to communicate to local database instance is it true? If yes, please provide me some reference material so that I can look more into it. I am not able to find any reference material related to this on net. Thanks, Vivek -- You received this messag

[google-appengine] Re: Javaland scheduler behavior

2012-03-14 Thread Mauricio Aristizabal
I'm experiencing the same issues and it's a shame: It feels like Google designed an F1 race car here, and then limited top speed to 20mph. > > What good is this shiny platform, full of slick, ready-to-use APIs and the promise of automatic elasticity, if a simple page often takes 40 seconds to lo