Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2015-02-16 Thread 'Alex Martelli' via Google App Engine
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:23 AM, Official George wrote: > I want for real > Sorry, it's opaque to me what you mean by that. Elucidate please? Alex > On Oct 4, 2013 6:06 AM, "rcp" wrote: > >> -1 from an 'enthusiast programmer'; SO considers me un-washed despite my >> relentless effort to be c

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2015-02-16 Thread Official George
I want for real On Oct 4, 2013 6:06 AM, "rcp" wrote: > -1 from an 'enthusiast programmer'; SO considers me un-washed despite my > relentless effort to be concise and precise. > > > On Monday, February 6, 2012 6:14:54 PM UTC-8, Ikai Lan wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *Hi Ap

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2015-02-04 Thread 'Alex Martelli' via Google App Engine
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Clark Van Oyen wrote: > Great idea! Agreed, on it being a great thing that we can recursively > define priorities within an established set of priorities in order to > arrive at one deterministic path :) Best of luck in your new job! > I believe the proper wording

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2014-03-25 Thread Vinny P
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Aayush Anand wrote: > hi.. I am an aspirant of GSOC '14. > I did register as student and submitted my proposal. But yesterday when i > tried to login, I found that my access is suspended only to GSOC. I was > redirected to the page saying "If you've been redirec

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2013-06-26 Thread PK
Agree... PK www.gae123.com On June 26, 2013 at 7:35:05 AM, Jeff Schnitzer (j...@infohazard.org) wrote: -1 for reviving a 1.5-year-old thread. Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and sto

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2013-06-26 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
-1 for reviving a 1.5-year-old thread. Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2013-06-26 Thread Aswath Satrasala
-1 for SO. -Aswath On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Moises Belchin wrote: > I'm not a big fan of SO. > > > Saludos. > Moisés Belchín. > > > 2013/6/25 Hooman Korasani > >> -1 >> Stackoverflow has a very strict FAQ rules, and questions are easily >> closed. I don't think it is a good idea to mo

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2013-06-25 Thread Moises Belchin
I'm not a big fan of SO. Saludos. Moisés Belchín. 2013/6/25 Hooman Korasani > -1 > Stackoverflow has a very strict FAQ rules, and questions are easily > closed. I don't think it is a good idea to move support to that platform. > > > On Tuesday, 7 February 2012 02:14:54 UTC, Ikai Lan wrote: >

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2013-04-15 Thread Rafael
aside from going unanswered, there's no way to query about generalized system status, which happens quite often. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 4:47 PM, payala wrote: > This would be fine if someone answered questions, I find appengine related > questions on stackoverflow have a pretty high chance to

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-03-29 Thread Daniel Florey
Too late On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:02:21 PM UTC+2, j wrote: > > -1 for moving to stackoverflow. Why do we need another site? I have been > using Google groups for years, no issues so far. What do we get by moving > to stakoverflow? Does it work on Android tablet or something else that we

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-03-28 Thread j
-1 for moving to stackoverflow. Why do we need another site? I have been using Google groups for years, no issues so far. What do we get by moving to stakoverflow? Does it work on Android tablet or something else that we need to know that is so special about it? On Monday, February 13, 2012 3:4

RE: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-26 Thread Brandon Wirtz
> AdWords communities (6 languages) also just moved to a 3rd party platform: That's an SEO play. Adwords is tired of all the trash talked about them in their forum ranking so highly because it is hosted on a Google Domain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-15 Thread Daniel Florey
This is very cool! Thanks a lot. Is there a way to enable this feature for my own group? I did not find the magic switch. Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.goog

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-14 Thread Johan Euphrosine
Hi Daniel, On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Daniel Florey wrote: > I just realized that all the nice feature are already available in Google > Groups. Checkout this post: > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/google-plus-developers/n0i53XYAM8E > > You can see that the Google+ grou

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-14 Thread supercobra
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/google-plus-developers/n0i53XYAM8E This is very cool. +1 for using that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroup

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-14 Thread Daniel Florey
Hi Greg, regarding the support: It was my understanding that enterprise support (premier account) will only be responsible to handle urgent issues (GAE problems affecting production apps). Or can we use the enterprise support also to get more general help regarding implementation patterns etc.?

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-13 Thread supercobra
> “Well, over all I think the most of the community is behind it, but > Supercobra, and > Brandon, the guy in the mermaid costume, have expressed some concerns” > > “Really? Did you ask G.I. Joe and Batman what they think?“ supercobra's opinion is more important than batman's, because batman can'

RE: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-13 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Ikai, >Supercobra I want to be in the meeting where you present to your manager the reaction to the news of the move to StackOverflow. "Well, over all I think the most of the community is behind it, but Supercobra, and Brandon, the guy in the mermaid costume, have expressed some concern

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-13 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Supercobra, I share your concerns about streamlining the user experience. As it stands, the user experience isn't great: you have groups, StackOverflow, billing issues forms, abuse forms, the public issues tracker, Google Groups, Reddit ... I could probably go on. The move to StackOverflow isn't n

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-13 Thread Gregory D'alesandre
Hi Mos, Google is absolutely committed to App Engine and part of the reason we are moving the Java/Python groups to StackOverflow is to have better, more consolidated answers to questions. While it might be possible for Google to build its own tool tailed to questions and answers, we really like

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-13 Thread Mos
> What's wrong with using well established, well working 3rd party software? Check this thread for arguments. Summary: - People need to check 2 different places/systems to find the official GAE support-groups (confusing; especially for newcomers) - Getting answers from Google stuff directly wi

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-13 Thread Andrin von Rechenberg
About "Google using StackOverflow and not building it itself": If you are working at Google Scale, you don't build StackOverflow in 3 months. If you are a StartUp, you build a primitive version of StackOverflow in a day and launch. If you are working at Google it will take you at least 12 month to

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-13 Thread Mos
+111 absolute agreement; I would like to hear an official statement from Google regarding long time commitment to GAE ( incl. plans regarding adequate support options). Google, has the best developers in the world. It has so much money to burn. It has the best internet-infrastructure on this pla

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-13 Thread Johan Euphrosine
Hi Daniel, Thanks for your feedback, I understand your concerns about finding the right support channel when your project overlap more than one Google Technology and I agree that's something that should be improved. Until now we relied on silo'ed Google groups (per language, per technologies) and

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-10 Thread Robert Kluin
Awesome! You stole what was going to be an evening project this weekend. ;) Looking forwards to checking this out. Robert On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:46, Andrin von Rechenberg wrote: > Hey guys > > Short version: > Problem solved, just subscribe > to: google-appengine-stackoverf...@googlegr

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-10 Thread Andrin von Rechenberg
If there is a tag for that you can create a mail forward for it on stack-over-mail.appspot.com :) Its generic... Cheers, -Andrin On Feb 10, 2012 11:28 PM, "Francois Masurel" wrote: > Great work Andrin, I just joined the group. > > I noticed that lots of messages are not directly related to GAE b

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-10 Thread Francois Masurel
Great work Andrin, I just joined the group. I noticed that lots of messages are not directly related to GAE but are rather about applications running on App Engine. Time will tell if SO was the right solution for GAE languages groups. May be you could create specialized groups like google-appe

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-10 Thread Andrin von Rechenberg
Thanks. I know that sometimes the message order is screwed up. The problem is that if a reply is posted to a question that the tool hasnt seen so far, it sends the question and the reply at the same time and the reply arrives before the question in the google groups. Typical race condition, but wi

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-10 Thread Andreas
andrin this looks and sounds amazing! thx On Feb 10, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Andrin von Rechenberg wrote: > Oh one more thing: You are on the bleeding edge if you subscribe. There are > no unittests. > > I'm adding in-reply-to & references headers now. > However in AppEngine I dont know the Message-

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-10 Thread Andrin von Rechenberg
Oh one more thing: You are on the bleeding edge if you subscribe. There are no unittests. I'm adding in-reply-to & references headers now. However in AppEngine I dont know the Message-ID, so I'm just going to use the stackoverflow id. Will that help? Does anyone know? On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:46

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-10 Thread Andrin von Rechenberg
Hey guys *Short version:* Problem solved, just subscribe to: google-appengine-stackoverf...@googlegroups.com You will receive every new question & answer in your favorite email client. *Long version:* I like stackoverflow when I'm googling, but I prefer gmail in my workflow for being part of the

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-10 Thread Daniel Florey
Am I the only one using the new Groups interface?? Right now everything is perfect for me as I can see at first sight how many new topics have been discussed in all my ~20 Google related groups. Is there a similar view in SO? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

RE: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-09 Thread Brandon Wirtz
> >> Brandon, can you set your font back to normal? For some reason I find > >> that my eyes tend to scan past the blue Times New Roman (that is Times, > right?). I live in outlook, I'm trying to pick settings that work for all of you and for me internally... and things get messed up when I reply

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-09 Thread Robert Kluin
I also started noticing that on Brandon's posts a day or two ago I think. Robert On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 14:55, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: > I don't mind the font, but Brandon whatever you're doing now shows a > vertical bar to the left of your content exactly the same as Gmail formats > quoted con

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-09 Thread Johan Euphrosine
I think that might be due to: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: > I don't mind the font, but Brandon whatever you're doing now shows a > vertical bar to the left of your content exactly the same as Gmail formats > quoted content.  I keep going

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-09 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
I don't mind the font, but Brandon whatever you're doing now shows a vertical bar to the left of your content exactly the same as Gmail formats quoted content. I keep going through your posts and wondering where the new text is only to realize that it is masquerading as quoted content. Example:

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-09 Thread Robert Kluin
This is actually my biggest complaint about SO as well. It is far outside my usual workflow. I also prefer the "gmail groups interface." I guess I need to try the RSS stuff, but I don't currently watch any RSS feeds -- so this is outside my normal flow as well. Robert On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-09 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Brandon, can you set your font back to normal? For some reason I find that my eyes tend to scan past the blue Times New Roman (that is Times, right?). I don't want to miss your messages because the more you post, the more ammunition I can collect for trolling you =P. Jeff, a few of us are using RS

RE: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-09 Thread Brandon Wirtz
>I fear that Neptune has not blessed me with such minions. Perhaps I'm wearing the wrong outfit :-) Do you have kids. I hear they can be trained. I have a Cat. She doesn't do so well with keyboard dexterity which is why there are so many typos in my posts on days Ivy (PA) isn't in the offi

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-09 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Brandon Wirtz wrote: > >Is RSS the way to go? Any special tricks? > > ** ** > > I have my personal assistant read all the messages and flag the important > ones, and occasionally post my canned response if I have posted the same > thing more than once. Proba

RE: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-09 Thread Brandon Wirtz
>Is RSS the way to go? Any special tricks? I have my personal assistant read all the messages and flag the important ones, and occasionally post my canned response if I have posted the same thing more than once. Probably getting your PA to do the same would be good, at least until he/she can

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-09 Thread Johan Euphrosine
Hi Jeff, You can also check this Chrome extension which tracks pending questions for a list of tags: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bnnkhapbhkejookmhgpgaikfdoegkmdp Currently the lowest level of granularly for email is a digest every 15 min, monitoring tag RSS feeds with an email gatew

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-09 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
What's a good workflow for dealing with stackoverflow that doesn't involve going and checking on the actual website? If it doesn't show up in my inbox or RSS reader (or sometimes hackernews) it might as well not exist to me. So far getting an email digest for the google-app-engine just does not c

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-08 Thread Johan Euphrosine
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Daniel Florey wrote: > Hi, > I did not want to offend anyone. > Hey, you are not offending anyone: discussion is always welcome here. > I just think it would make perfectly sense to improve Groups to allow > users to rate posts and display the best answer on top

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-08 Thread Daniel Florey
Hi, I did not want to offend anyone. I just think it would make perfectly sense to improve Groups to allow users to rate posts and display the best answer on top etc. Especially if you take into account that Groups is also used as the Google Apps help system. We are using almost all Google prod

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Andreas
yes, once you subscribe for a tag you can edit the email settings on that subscriptions. On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Brandon Wirtz wrote: > Is there a way to get a daily StackOverflow digest email? > > Cheers, > -Andrin > > > You can get emails about your question, you can get an rss of a

RE: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Is there a way to get a daily StackOverflow digest email? Cheers, -Andrin You can get emails about your question, you can get an rss of a tag. It is a wiki so both are kind of weird. And there is not a good way to "sponge" the info the way I do with emails that I can then sort offli

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Andrin von Rechenberg
Ha, great! Wasn't logged in so I didn't see it. Cheers, -Andrin On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Bart Thate wrote: > If you are on IRC freenode i just made a channel where my bot spams the > RSS feed of stackoverflow. Channel is #appengine-overflow ;] > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Andrin

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Kluin
I think directing a lot of the specific coding type questions to SO is good. It has nice support for things like syntax highlighting built in, and it is *far* better indexed. It also gives users the ability to edit / cleanup / clarify questions based on feed back, and for users to de-dupe questio

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Kluin
Cool Bart. That might make it easier to keep up with the questions there! Robert On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:30, Bart Thate wrote: > If you are on IRC freenode i just made a channel where my bot spams the RSS > feed of stackoverflow. Channel is #appengine-overflow ;] > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 a

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
I think it's unfair to compare groups to StackOverflow. There's still nothing better in my book for a good ol' fashioned, directed discussion. But as it turns out, groups is really less than optimal for asking questions about code. And that's okay: StackOverflow is a highly specialized tool that ma

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Johan Euphrosine
Hi Daniel, We observed that more and more people use Stack Overflow for asking development questions about App Engine: - 107 questions Last 7 Days - 461 questions Last 30 Days And regularly development questions are posted on the language specific groups, appear to be already answered on Stack Ov

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Bart Thate
If you are on IRC freenode i just made a channel where my bot spams the RSS feed of stackoverflow. Channel is #appengine-overflow ;] On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Andrin von Rechenberg wrote: > My main concern is that I will miss many of the questions & answers, > because I will have to manuall

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Johan Euphrosine
Yes, you can subscribe to google-app-engine tag by email: just over the tag name and click subscribe. More details on the following post: http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/12/subscribe-to-tags-via-emai/ On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Andrin von Rechenberg wrote: > My main concern is that I wil

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Andrin von Rechenberg
My main concern is that I will miss many of the questions & answers, because I will have to manually go an check StackOverflow. Is there a way to get a daily StackOverflow digest email? Cheers, -Andrin On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Daniel Florey wrote: > I know that Google has grown to a larg

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Johan Euphrosine
Hi Leandro, Note that we do not plan to deprecate google-appengine@ group (only the language specific groups google-appengine-python@ and google-appengine-java@ where most posts fit the stack overflow Q&A model). You can also follow Stack Overflow by email by subscribing to a tag [1], or with you

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Leandro Rezende
-1 I loved waking up every morning and check the emails from this group, i always read almost everything, not even knowing what it is about, only to learn more about GAE, future problens i will have and future solutions . As a beginner, i would lose much if the group ends. =( 2012/2/7 Johan Euphro

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Johan Euphrosine
Hi Steve, While I'll agree that experimental feature might be subject to change and deprecation, all the stable API [1] are here to stay and are subject to the 3 years deprecation policy [2]. Also note that Stack Overflow questions and anwers can be edited over time (like a wiki), unlike the grou

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Prashant
I also agree with Steve. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Maxim Lacrima wrote: > I agree with Steve. > > > On 7 February 2012 06:30, Steve wrote: > >> -1 >> >> The best way to accomplish a task in GAE (at least in the python runtime) >> seems to change, often significantly, over time. I find the

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Maxim Lacrima
I agree with Steve. On 7 February 2012 06:30, Steve wrote: > -1 > > The best way to accomplish a task in GAE (at least in the python runtime) > seems to change, often significantly, over time. I find the groups to be a > better format for moving targets like GAE and Stack Overflow better for >