[Hampshire] XML documents - Now protected by a Microsoft Patent

2009-08-06 Thread Stephen Davies
Watch out Linux users. The USPTO has awarded Microsoft a patent on storing Word processing documents in a single XML document. Yeah, I know there is plenty of prior art and it is obvious but that don't count for nowt these days. Covered on /. http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/08/06/2322209/Micr

Re: [Hampshire] pcworld southampton & linux

2009-08-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Pavithran, On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 06:24:07PM +0100, pavithran wrote: > Professional or not I believe this is *linux* users group . And M$ ( > not Microsoft) has an awesome reputation of patent allegations against > the Free software movement . And as Linux users we ( if we have enough > free s

Re: [Hampshire] Debian to Ubuntu, without complete reinstall?

2009-08-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi David, On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 04:57:52PM +0100, David Ramsden wrote: > I have the need to upgrade 3 remote servers from Debian to Ubuntu. I'd > like to avoid a complete re-install because: >a) The servers are all remote and in three separate geographical > locations. >b) I don't have

Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] August Meeting

2009-08-06 Thread pavithran
2009/8/2 Alan Pope : > The train goes direct from Southampton to Farnborough. From > Farnborough station it may be possible to get a lift from someone. > > http://surrey.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?BringABox/NokiaFarnborough Thank you . I booked my tickets and mailed bob . I booked via southwest tra

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-06 Thread john lewis
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 20:08:43 +0100 Alan Pope wrote: > > Doubt : should I recompile my kernel ? > > > > I haven't compiled a kernel _at_ _all_ for 4 years. I did plenty > before that, but haven't needed to since. I switched to Ubuntu 4 years > ago. Wonder if these things are related somehow. why

Re: [Hampshire] Debian to Ubuntu, without complete reinstall?

2009-08-06 Thread john lewis
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:26:49 +0100 David Ramsden wrote: > Alan Pope wrote: > > 2009/8/6 David Ramsden : > >> I have the need to upgrade 3 remote servers from Debian to Ubuntu. > >> I'd like to avoid a complete re-install because: > > > > Blimey, you're brave posting "Upgrade .. from Debian to Ub

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-06 Thread Keith Edmunds
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:16:49 +0100, step...@rowles.org.uk said: > Thanks > for cutting me some slack. Sometime I do wonder why I bother with this > mailing list as so often I seem to run into people who are more > interested in posting a hostile response than fostering a sense of > community.

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-06 Thread Stephen Rowles
Keith Edmunds wrote: > > The MythTV mailing list and website are very helpful in this respect. > I don't run myth so didn't think of posting there, the linux-dvb mailing list wasn't very helpful. > >> For me I own: >> >> http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?page=Product&fm=nul

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] DVD to PC

2009-08-06 Thread Steve Wesemeyer
On Thursday 06 August 2009 17:27:30 Rob Malpass wrote: > Hi all > > OK - sorry this is not particularly Linux but it's been driving me nuts. > > What I want (and maybe I'm being too exacting here) is a program for Linux > or indeed Windows that will just take a video DVD and dump out an avi / mpg >

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] DVD to PC

2009-08-06 Thread Alan Pope
2009/8/6 Samuel Penn : > On Thursday 06 August 2009 17:52:50 Alan Pope wrote: >> I did this just the other day to rip a DVD for watching on the train >> and it was super easy. > > ?! > > I'd have to say that dvd:rip is amongst the worst piece of software > that I've ever used. "super easy" is not a

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-06 Thread Keith Edmunds
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:18:46 +0100, step...@rowles.org.uk said: > In my experience TV card support still sucks and it is very hard finding > a real person who really has a card that actually works and that you can > still buy who will give you advice ;) The MythTV mailing list and website are v

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-06 Thread Stephen Rowles
Alan Pope wrote: > 2009/8/6 pavithran : > >> Uncertainty : yeah I am afraid if my tv tuner or graphic card gets >> detected in linux >> >> > > There is this thing called Google. It has a list of supported devices. > > When it comes to TV tuners that still assumes: 1) You can find somew

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-06 Thread Alan Pope
2009/8/6 pavithran : > Uncertainty : yeah I am afraid if my tv tuner or graphic card gets > detected  in linux > There is this thing called Google. It has a list of supported devices. > Doubt : should I recompile my kernel ? > I haven't compiled a kernel _at_ _all_ for 4 years. I did plenty befo

Re: [Hampshire] pcworld southampton & linux (pavithra

2009-08-06 Thread Keith Edmunds
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:56:52 +0100, cgden...@btinternet.com said: > (I'm self-employed, and I do worry about providing best value for my > customers. That's why I'm barely making a living despite having plenty > of work.) The two need not be mutually exclusive! Keith -- Please post to: Hamp

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-06 Thread Anton Piatek
On 02/08/2009, Stuart Matheson wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I did a quick search of the HantsLUG list and couldn't find anything > appropriate so please let me know if I've missed something. > > My girlfriend is moving out of her current splace and will no longer have > access to the expert she had t

[Hampshire] Buying a Eee 901?

2009-08-06 Thread Andy Random
Hi, I've procrastinated about buying a 901 all year... Finally this week after getting my annual bonus (not as good as last year, but in the current climate I'm not complaining) I decided I definitely wanted one and now it seems I've left it too late :( Most of the places I would normally buy

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-06 Thread pavithran
2009/8/3 Dave Walker : > In regards to Mythtv on Ubuntu, we go to great measures to ensure that > upgrades (if required) are as clean as possible.  Seeing FUD like the > above, really is a slap in the face.  Thanks. I am realy glad to evoke a response from big people as you :) I am spreading FUD

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] DVD to PC

2009-08-06 Thread David Rozzell
On Thursday 06 August 2009, Rob Malpass wrote: > Hi all > > OK - sorry this is not particularly Linux but it's been driving me nuts. > > What I want (and maybe I'm being too exacting here) is a program for Linux > or indeed Windows that will just take a video DVD and dump out an avi / mpg > / whate

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] DVD to PC

2009-08-06 Thread Samuel Penn
On Thursday 06 August 2009 17:52:50 Alan Pope wrote: > 2009/8/6 Rob Malpass : > > What I want (and maybe I'm being too exacting here) is a program for > > Linux or indeed Windows that will just take a video DVD and dump out an > > avi / mpg / whatever file preferably at enough res that I can watch

Re: [Hampshire] pcworld southampton & linux

2009-08-06 Thread pavithran
2009/8/6 Andy Random : > > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Keith Edmunds wrote: > Personally I have no problem with it. Same here . I actually use M$ instead of MS just replaying "S" with $ company because it is *a* rich company :D > If someone used it all the time in any context that might be slightly > anno

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] DVD to PC

2009-08-06 Thread Alan Pope
2009/8/6 Rob Malpass : > What I want (and maybe I'm being too exacting here) is a program for Linux > or indeed Windows that will just take a video DVD and dump out an avi / mpg > / whatever file preferably at enough res that I can watch on a big screen > TV. > dvd::rip - works _brilliantly_. I d

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] DVD to PC

2009-08-06 Thread Hugo Mills
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 05:27:30PM +0100, Rob Malpass wrote: > What I want (and maybe I'm being too exacting here) is a program for > Linux or indeed Windows that will just take a video DVD and dump out > an avi / mpg / whatever file preferably at enough res that I can > watch on a big screen TV.

Re: [Hampshire] pcworld southampton & linux

2009-08-06 Thread Andy Random
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Keith Edmunds wrote: > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:35:31 +, a...@strugglers.net said: > >> PS is anyone else really put off by the use of "M$", "Micro$oft", >>"Microshaft" etc. in emails? > > Very much so. It's unprofessional (and to quote my teacher of years ago, > it isn't

[Hampshire] [OT] DVD to PC

2009-08-06 Thread Rob Malpass
Hi all OK - sorry this is not particularly Linux but it's been driving me nuts. What I want (and maybe I'm being too exacting here) is a program for Linux or indeed Windows that will just take a video DVD and dump out an avi / mpg / whatever file preferably at enough res that I can watch on a b

Re: [Hampshire] Debian to Ubuntu, without complete reinstall?

2009-08-06 Thread David Ramsden
Alan Pope wrote: > 2009/8/6 David Ramsden : >> I have the need to upgrade 3 remote servers from Debian to Ubuntu. I'd >> like to avoid a complete re-install because: > > Blimey, you're brave posting "Upgrade .. from Debian to Ubuntu" on > this list. Get your best flame retardant underpants on. :)

Re: [Hampshire] Debian to Ubuntu, without complete reinstall?

2009-08-06 Thread Alan Pope
2009/8/6 David Ramsden : > I have the need to upgrade 3 remote servers from Debian to Ubuntu. I'd > like to avoid a complete re-install because: Blimey, you're brave posting "Upgrade .. from Debian to Ubuntu" on this list. Get your best flame retardant underpants on. > Is there a migration path f

[Hampshire] Debian to Ubuntu, without complete reinstall?

2009-08-06 Thread David Ramsden
Hi, I have the need to upgrade 3 remote servers from Debian to Ubuntu. I'd like to avoid a complete re-install because: a) The servers are all remote and in three separate geographical locations. b) I don't have any lights out or remote hands. Is there a migration path from Debian to Ubun

Re: [Hampshire] pcworld southampton & linux (pavithra

2009-08-06 Thread Alan Pope
2009/8/6 pavithran : > Ubuntu and its upstream commitments are a bit confusing for me . > Can you be more specific? > Also have a  look at > http://charismacode.blogspot.com/2007/01/powers-and-repositories-ubuntu-and.html > Too long, didn't read. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailm

Re: [Hampshire] pcworld southampton & linux (pavithra

2009-08-06 Thread pavithran
2009/8/6 alan c : > Except when I am in the shower,   :-)  I nearly *always* wear a hat or > tee shirt advertising my own favourite 'brand' (ubuntu). > Marketing is partly about establishing a brand, and for better or > worse, Ubuntu is doing this best. Ubuntu and its upstream commitments are a b

Re: [Hampshire] pcworld southampton & linux (pavithra

2009-08-06 Thread alan c
Chris Dennis wrote: [...] > Free software is a secret from most people -- they only hear about the > stuff that's advertised on the telly. Well said! The 'retail therapy' is consumed relentlessly and most people are completely hooked into it. We are deeply immersed in a retail environment. It is

Re: [Hampshire] Linux Expo

2009-08-06 Thread Charlie de Courcy
Keith Edmunds said the following on 05/08/09 19:57: > On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:14:19 +0100, charles.de-cou...@sun.com said: > > >> My >> colleagues and I are looking for any open-source events in the city that >> we can attend. >> > > What is it that you want to achieve? > > Primaril

Re: [Hampshire] Linux Training

2009-08-06 Thread Tony Whitmore
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:09:38 +, Ally Biggs wrote: > Are there any meetings due to be held in the Southampton area? I can't make > this Saturdays meet because I have a driving lessons. But I will attend any > Southampton based meet as it's easy for me to get to. They're not usually announced m

Re: [Hampshire] Linux Training

2009-08-06 Thread Ally Biggs
Are there any meetings due to be held in the Southampton area? I can't make this Saturdays meet because I have a driving lessons. But I will attend any Southampton based meet as it's easy for me to get to. > Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:39:11 +0100 > From: phi...@stuphi.co.uk > To: hampshire@mail

Re: [Hampshire] pcworld southampton & linux

2009-08-06 Thread Ally Biggs
Problem is your average consumer simply do not know what the hell Linux is, They go for Windows because it's what they have used and are comfortable in using it. The average user wants something to be working straight out of the box they do not want to be compiling Kernals or running various comma

Re: [Hampshire] Linux Training

2009-08-06 Thread Philip Stubbs
2009/8/6 Ally Biggs : > Hello All > > Do any of you guys offer any 1 to 1 Linux training? I am from the > Southampton Area and am looking to learn some stuff from the gurus. > > Areas of interest I am keen to learn about are > > Samba > LDAP > Setting up and configuring a server using Webmin or Ebo