James wrote:
> What if there was a specific Linux-focused jobs board, something that
> was marketed a lot more than the one(s) that are out there at the
> moment...Could we somehow run a feed to the Hampshire LUG - perhaps all
> LUGS?
Anyway, was a nice evening for a walk... may I suggest you pay
2009/4/29 jt :
> What if there was a specific Linux-focused jobs board, something that
> was marketed a lot more than the one(s) that are out there at the
> moment...Could we somehow run a feed to the Hampshire LUG - perhaps all
> LUGS? Would we need to, or could the Linux-focused job board be prom
James wrote:
> What if there was a specific Linux-focused jobs board, something that
> was marketed a lot more than the one(s) that are out there at the
> moment...Could we somehow run a feed to the Hampshire LUG - perhaps all
> LUGS? Would we need to, or could the Linux-focused job board be promo
Sean Gibbins wrote:
> I wonder if James' mission could be to raise the profile of the separate
> jobs list, and find some way to promote that as /the/ place to look for
> Linux-related employment in the South? Could we live with a single
> weekly digest of all jobs listed there with a link to the
Simon Capstick wrote:
>
> I was rather reluctant to add to this growing thread, but being in the
> recruitment sector too I would like to second Daniel's comments above.
> Believe it or not you can actually run a successful recruitment agency
> without resorting to spam, or annoying LUGs!
Yes,
Dear jt,
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:26:43 +0100, jt wrote:
> Tony Whitmore wrote:
>
>> I was referring to his use of the F-word and other abusive terms in his
>> later e-mail, as referenced in the quote I included in my e-mail. I have
>> not commented on use of language relating to Nazis.
>
> Is i
On Wednesday 29 April 2009 08:12:18 Jon Fautley wrote:
> Lisi - See Rik's previous posting to me, askin
Thanks for your reply, Jon. As you see, I had taken in the extreme
unpleasantness of the comments, and not to whom they were addressed.
But those comments would not in my opinion be appropri
Tony Whitmore wrote:
> I was referring to his use of the F-word and other abusive terms in his
> later e-mail, as referenced in the quote I included in my e-mail. I have
> not commented on use of language relating to Nazis.
Is it possible the group can actually refer to this poster by name, just
Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi Tony,
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 05:10:03PM +0100, Tony Whitmore wrote:
>> Personally though I am much more worried about the effect on the list of
>> the swearing by Rik than the job posts by jt!
>
> Yes indeed. I hope we can all have a nice chat about it at one of
> the
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:25:10 +0100, John Cooper
wrote:
> Tony Whitmore wrote:
>> Rik,
>>
>> Rik wrote:
>>> The apt response to this is YOU
>>
>> This behaviour and language is totally inappropriate for a LUG and
>> mailing list which tries to be a welcoming and accepting place. I
>> sincerely
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:26:43 +0100
Lisi wrote:
> Could someone enlighten me - who has called JonF (Jon Faulty?) what?
> Sean was surely referring to Rik and it is jt's contributions that
> have been queried, is it not? (I'm sure that someone will tell me
> where I am wrong in this!)
Hello - tha
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:42:15PM +0100, John Cooper wrote:
> Andy Smith wrote:
> > I'm confused; you don't think he needs to apologise for:
> >
> > http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/lurker/message/20090428.070434.da5a6e2d.en.html
> >
> > ?
> And your point is? He is expressing his opinion, and it is
On Tuesday 28 April 2009 22:42:15 John Cooper wrote:
> And your point is? He is expressing his opinion, and it is a poor
> substitute for actual relevant list content.
Are you sure that you read the sentence in upper case at the bottom of the
page??
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Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 09:25:10PM +0100, John Cooper wrote:
>> Tony Whitmore wrote:
>>> Rik wrote:
The apt response to this is YOU
>>> This behaviour and language is totally inappropriate for a LUG and
>>> mailing list which tries to be a welcoming and accep
Hi John,
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 09:25:10PM +0100, John Cooper wrote:
> Tony Whitmore wrote:
> > Rik wrote:
> >> The apt response to this is YOU
> >
> > This behaviour and language is totally inappropriate for a LUG and
> > mailing list which tries to be a welcoming and accepting place.
[...]
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 21:25 +0100, John Cooper wrote:
> Tony Whitmore wrote:
> > Rik,
> >
> > Rik wrote:
> >> The apt response to this is YOU
> >
> > This behaviour and language is totally inappropriate for a LUG and
> > mailing list which tries to be a welcoming and accepting place. I
> > sinc
Tony Whitmore wrote:
> Rik,
>
> Rik wrote:
>> The apt response to this is YOU
>
> This behaviour and language is totally inappropriate for a LUG and
> mailing list which tries to be a welcoming and accepting place. I
> sincerely hope that no-one trying to get an impression of Hampshire LUG
> see
jt wrote:
> ...I'm more than happy to contribute to the list discussions. if anybody
> would like to enter in a discussion with me regarding the matter of
> getting this machine to recognize 2 data drives under raid 1 and an OS
> drive running SUSE that would be great and a good start.
>
> ...I'm
Lisi wrote:
is jt's contributions that have been queried, is it not? (I'm sure
that someone will tell me where I am wrong in this!)?
...I'm more than happy to contribute to the list discussions. if anybody
would like to enter in a discussion with me regarding the matter of
getting this machine t
On Tuesday 28 April 2009 19:19:12 Jacqui Caren wrote:
> Sean Gibbins wrote:
> > The easiest thing to do at this point is to respond with more abuse, the
> > hardest thing will be to apologise for being a bit silly. The way I see
> > it, one option gains you some respect, the other writes you off as
Sean Gibbins wrote:
> The easiest thing to do at this point is to respond with more abuse, the
> hardest thing will be to apologise for being a bit silly. The way I see
> it, one option gains you some respect, the other writes you off as a bit
> of a loon.
As a lurker of at least 4 LUG lisst I kno
Hi Tony,
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 05:10:03PM +0100, Tony Whitmore wrote:
> Personally though I am much more worried about the effect on the list of
> the swearing by Rik than the job posts by jt!
Yes indeed. I hope we can all have a nice chat about it at one of
the LUG meets though; somehow I don
Rik,
Rik wrote:
> The apt response to this is YOU
This behaviour and language is totally inappropriate for a LUG and
mailing list which tries to be a welcoming and accepting place. I
sincerely hope that no-one trying to get an impression of Hampshire LUG
sees your reaction and assumes the genera
Stephen Rowles wrote:
> I for one don't have a problem with the posts, an exception would be the
> recent issue with the repeated posting of the Database which clearly
> wasn't going to get a response.
They are at least flagged in the subject line, which is broadly what the
guidance on the wiki sa
Andy Smith wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 02:28:52PM +0100, jt wrote:
>> That said - I refer you to the main page of the Hants lug that reads:
>>
>> "There is no requirement to be in Hampshire to join, in fact about half
>> of our members are from outside Hampshire"
>
> Please show me a post you
Hi jt,
2009/4/28 jt :
> Daniel Spain wrote:
>
>> I just wanted to join to say that, I hope people don't think that the
>> average IT recruiter is anything like this guy, he's one of the few that
>> gives us all a bad name. Most of us are here because of a genuine interest
>> in the Linux community
Daniel Spain wrote:
> I just wanted to join to say that, I hope people don't think that the
> average IT recruiter is anything like this guy, he's one of the few that
> gives us all a bad name. Most of us are here because of a genuine interest
> in the Linux community, and not just to spam job ad'
Hugo Mills wrote:
>
>If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
She's a witch! :)
Chris
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On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 02:23:17PM +0100, jt wrote:
> Chris Smith wrote:
> > jt wrote:
> >> Now I came up with an idea of displaying details about jobs I
> >> am recruiting for in the front window of my house! It is a different
> >> way of thinking
>
> > Just like every other brick and mortar
Andy Smith wrote:
> How many lists are you banned from now? Is it just GLLUG and SCLUG?
I'm still subscribed to both.
I had an email from SCLUG to that read something like, if I want use the
sclug list for commercial purposes you may may like to contribute to the
running costsI replied sayi
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 02:28:52PM +0100, jt wrote:
> That said - I refer you to the main page of the Hants lug that reads:
>
> "There is no requirement to be in Hampshire to join, in fact about half
> of our members are from outside Hampshire"
Please show me a post you have made to this list whi
On Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 13:20:24 +0100, jt wrote:
> I have not said that! You wont understand but a lot of the time
> employers are looking to recruit people who aren't specifically trawling
> job boards or job lists.
i.e. They're looking for people that are competent and most of those
are alr
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 02:23:17PM +0100, jt wrote:
> I'm also not a recruitment agent!
http://lists.gllug.org.uk/pipermail/gllug/2009-April/077684.html
"I am a head-hunter/ recruiter"
Please give it a rest.
Andy
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Andy Smith wrote:
> Posting to non-jobs lists based in Peterborough and Lincolnshire for
> a job based in Reading? Please don't try to justify it again, you
> have gone over it again and again on all the other lists. You may
> have had a reasonable point that these types of commutes are
> possibl
Chris Smith wrote:
> jt wrote:
>> Now I came up with an idea of displaying details about jobs I
>> am recruiting for in the front window of my house! It is a different
>> way of thinking
> Just like every other brick and mortar recruitment agency, you mean?
> How's that different?
Not quite!
jt wrote:
>
> Now I came up with an idea of displaying details about jobs I
> am recruiting for in the front window of my house! It is a different
> way of thinking
Just like every other brick and mortar recruitment agency, you mean?
How's that different?
> chances are these people (like pe
jt,
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 01:20:24PM +0100, jt wrote:
> Andy Smith wrote:
> > This is not specifically a jobs list. One of those already exists
> > but James has already stated that he won't restrict himself to it
> > because his vacancies are so good that even people who aren't
> > currently l
Andy Smith wrote:
> The performance on GLLUG of even apparently going to the trouble of
> setting up another identity was quite special.
I have already mentioned why this was done! If I had wanted to do
something special I would have created a new company, new website and
posted under a different
jt wrote:
>
> I have not said that! You wont understand but a lot of the time
> employers are looking to recruit people who aren't specifically trawling
> job boards or job lists.
Eh? I certainly don't understand. You seem to be saying that (in your
opinion) employers only want to recruit peopl
Hi Stephen,
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 01:10:44PM +0100, Stephen Rowles wrote:
It was actually me who wrote:
> > Most people were willing to tolerate the Camalyn posts until they
> > became extremely repetitive, posted widely across the country for
> > jobs in specific locations far away, and James
Sean Gibbins wrote:
>
> Sad to say it comes around from time Keith.
Sorry, that should have read 'time to time'.
Sean
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Keith Edmunds wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:04:34 +0100, hlug090...@buzzhost.co.uk said:
>
>
>> The apt response to this is YOU SAD BORING DICKHEAD. WHY NOT OFF
>> AND DIE.
>>
>
> What has happened to the Hants LUG list? I've recommended this list to
> quite a few people, but if the
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:04:34 +0100, hlug090...@buzzhost.co.uk said:
> The apt response to this is YOU SAD BORING DICKHEAD. WHY NOT OFF
> AND DIE.
What has happened to the Hants LUG list? I've recommended this list to
quite a few people, but if the above is indicative of the tone this list
pr
Hi Rik,
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 08:04:34AM +0100, Rik wrote:
> The apt response to this is YOU SAD BORING DICKHEAD. WHY NOT FUCK OFF
> AND DIE.
Welcome to the LUG. I am going to most overjoyed to meet you at one
of the face to face gatherings!
Cheers,
Andy
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On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:14:05PM +0100, jt wrote:
> Philip Stubbs wrote:
> > 2009/4/27 jt :
> >> JOB: Senior Security Engineer
> >> SALARY: £60-£75K plus attractive package!
> >> LOCATION: London, England, UK
> >
> > Dear Admins,
> >
> > I am sure this guy has been advised of
> The posts are no more than 1-2 per month and are formatted in such a way
> that people can ether hit delete or open as soon as they see it.
> Alternatively perhaps you can just create a filter just as easily?
>
> On some of the other groups I subscribe to I do make non-Job posts...and
> in fact a
On Tuesday 28 April 2009 10:06:17 jt wrote:
> The posts are no more than 1-2 per month
10 since February. I make that between 3 and 4 a month. So almost 1 a week.
> and are formatted in such a way
> that people can ether hit delete or open as soon as they see it.
> Alternatively perhaps you
Alan Pope wrote:
> I also note from Greater London LUG that the person seems to be
> signing up under a different name to avoid such filters. That puts
> paid to the idea of filtering. How many filters will you setup before
> you get pissed off with one guy?
After attempting to post the GLUG recen
I love this mailing list as the advice is invaluable.
What also sets it apart, is that it is usually troll and spam free.
>The easiest thing to do at this point is to respond with more abuse,
>the
>hardest thing will be to apologise for being a bit silly. The way I
>see
>it, one option gains you
Rik wrote:
> The apt response to this is YOU SAD BORING ...
It's /a/ response Rik, granted, but it's a silly one that just
reinforces Jon's point - you have asked people not to be pathetic and
childish and now you are throwing tantrums.
If you want people to be grown up and not pathetic, then gi
Jon Fautley wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:54:12 +0100
> Sean Gibbins wrote:
>
>
>> However, once people see the list as a resource to get to a target
>> audience I can also see it being abused. Apparently the person posting
>> this job has stepped on some toes in that regard and so what is ne
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 07:42 +0100, Jon Fautley wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:20:09 +0100
> Rik wrote:
>
> > Which brings me back to the point of little list Nazi's. Yawn - this
> > is all very very boring and a very poor substitute for actual
> > relevant list content.
>
> Godwin's Law. You f
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:54:12 +0100
Sean Gibbins wrote:
> However, once people see the list as a resource to get to a target
> audience I can also see it being abused. Apparently the person posting
> this job has stepped on some toes in that regard and so what is needed
> is a sensible dialogue to
Rik wrote:
> This is simply childish and totally pathetic. I suspect, however, that
> the little list Nazi's will keep this topic alive beyond the point of
> boredom throughout the coming hours and days.
Rik I really can't tolerate this any more: that should be Nazis and not
Nazi's!
:-P
Seriousl
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 23:14:05 +0100 (+0100), jt wrote:
> I am a Linux user so don't see why I cant post. At the same time I am
> doing my job! If I don't find people for jobs, I don't pay the mortgage!
a) I don't recall seeing a post which wasn't a job advert from you,
and neither does a search
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:20:09 +0100
Rik wrote:
> Which brings me back to the point of little list Nazi's. Yawn - this
> is all very very boring and a very poor substitute for actual
> relevant list content.
Godwin's Law. You fail.
Thanks for playing, try harder next time.
Jon
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On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 07:03 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/4/28 Rik :
> > Good. I found your rant childish and offensive too and I don't feel that
> > walking on egg shells around people that rant is an acceptable response.
> >
>
> To be fair to Phillip, the guy has spammed tese jobs across multi
2009/4/28 Rik :
> Good. I found your rant childish and offensive too and I don't feel that
> walking on egg shells around people that rant is an acceptable response.
>
To be fair to Phillip, the guy has spammed tese jobs across multiple
mailing lists multiple times. So I can understand peoples fru
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 06:30 +0100, Philip Stubbs wrote:
> 2009/4/28 Rik :
> > Man, what is it with little list Nazi's??? If you don't want this guys
> > job posts just set up a bloody filter and stop whining like a retarded
> > chimp.
>
> I am sorry, but I find that quite offensive.
>
Good. I fo
2009/4/27 jt :
> I am a Linux user so don't see why I cant post. At the same time I am
> doing my job! If I don't find people for jobs, I don't pay the mortgage!
> I am prepared to have discussions as to how I or my business might be
> able to contribute to the Hampshire Lug, perhaps attend some m
2009/4/28 Rik :
> Man, what is it with little list Nazi's??? If you don't want this guys
> job posts just set up a bloody filter and stop whining like a retarded
> chimp.
I am sorry, but I find that quite offensive.
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On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 23:14 +0100, jt wrote:
> Philip Stubbs wrote:
> > 2009/4/27 jt :
> >> JOB: Senior Security Engineer
> >> SALARY: £60-£75K plus attractive package!
> >> LOCATION: London, England, UK
> >
> > Dear Admins,
> >
> > I am sure this guy has been advised of the correct place for th
Philip Stubbs wrote:
> 2009/4/27 jt :
>> JOB: Senior Security Engineer
>> SALARY: £60-£75K plus attractive package!
>> LOCATION: London, England, UK
>
> Dear Admins,
>
> I am sure this guy has been advised of the correct place for these
> posts and still they come. As he has chosen to ignore the
2009/4/27 jt :
> JOB: Senior Security Engineer
> SALARY: £60-£75K plus attractive package!
> LOCATION: London, England, UK
Dear Admins,
I am sure this guy has been advised of the correct place for these
posts and still they come. As he has chosen to ignore the polite
requests, can he be less poli
JOB: Senior Security Engineer
SALARY: £60-£75K plus attractive package!
LOCATION: London, England, UK
Hello ~ I am working with a technology company in London to recruit a
Senior Security Engineer.
Are you able to translate requirements from regulatory bodies (such as
FSI and PCI) into real-world
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