Alan Pope said:
> I suspect the vast majority of Windows installs are not used for games,
> unless you count Oracle, Outlook, Word, Excel and Powerpoint to be
> intricate multi-player games :)
Then I stand corrected, or possibly just updated! I don't pay much
attention to games, but suspect
On Wednesday 13 Feb 2013, Ally Biggs wrote:
> Do you guys ever think there will be a day that Linux will be as popular as
> Windows in the desktop market.
By which I assume you mean in the UK? Linux is very popular in some place
already. If you include tablets, then Linux kernel powered devices a
On 14/02/13 17:21, j...@osml.eu wrote:
> On 2013-02-13 11:31, Ally Biggs wrote:
>> The other problem I found is the community alot of people expect you
>> to be some kind of command line genius who is capable of reciting the
>> whole encyclopaedia of man pages. So when you ask for help or guidance
> Most people use their computers for games.
They do? News to me.
> So how did you guys learn Linux?
Just to complete the set:
I was a DOS user when I was assigned to look after PC/IX. I quickly decided
that UNIX was the only way to go and have never regretted the decision.
Then followed AI
On 15 February 2013 15:17, Richard Bensley wrote:
>
*applauds*
Post of the Year.
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> The documentation for various systems and services are generally
> fantastic, show me a bad example.
pygtk.
I have others...
> Often the documentation, testing and
> implementation efforts are the most deserving and go unnoticed. I
> don't use python much, but my goodness that's some great
>
On 13 February 2013 16:31, Ally Biggs wrote:
> Do you guys ever think there will be a day that Linux will be as popular as
> Windows in the desktop market.
It's slowly happening. The US and Europe are not the only desktop
demographics. Asia and the third world are heavily embracing open
source.
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:15:04 +, Alan Pope
wrote:
On 15/02/13 12:19, Peter Alefounder wrote:
Most people use their computers for games.
Back that up :)
I suspect the vast majority of Windows installs are not used for
games, unless you count Oracle, Outlook, Word, Excel and Powerpoint
to
On 15/02/13 12:19, Peter Alefounder wrote:
Most people use their computers for games.
Back that up :)
I suspect the vast majority of Windows installs are not used for games,
unless you count Oracle, Outlook, Word, Excel and Powerpoint to be
intricate multi-player games :)
Cheers,
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Ally Biggs asked:
> The thing which bothers me though about Linux ok it's free and if
> you have the skills you can do great things but why isn't it being
> adopted more for everyday use.
Most people use their computers for games. Games are more readily
available for Windows.
> So how did you
Trouble with all this advocacy of new devices, is, that their
manufacturers don't intend you to use them above 2 years - their rated
lifecycle, at best.
They expect you to buy something ever-newer, bi-ennially. Which keeps
'em in business. They realized that servers, towers & laptops were
lasti
On Thursday 14 Feb 2013 20:49:04 Andy Smith wrote:
> I agree with you that there is a trade-off, but I just wanted to
> point out that compared to devices like a Chromebook, anything you
> can build is neither "C" nor "OTS".
By COTS I meant a machine which was not self-built.
> The shelves that d
On 2013-02-14 15:49, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 07:54:17PM +, Tim Brocklehurst wrote:
However, there is good mileage in what we do at the moment, which is
to use a
COTS machine (laptop, desktop or whatever) and download the software
we wish
to use as a package, which
On 2013-02-14 14:54, Tim Brocklehurst wrote:
One question... Do you work for Google?
On Thursday 14 Feb 2013 15:33:58 j...@osml.eu wrote:
I see a slightly different future for Linux. The desktop, for many,
will disappear. The Chromebook is a V2.0 successor to the Network
Computer. It's a co
Hello,
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 07:54:17PM +, Tim Brocklehurst wrote:
> However, there is good mileage in what we do at the moment, which is to use a
> COTS machine (laptop, desktop or whatever) and download the software we wish
> to use as a package, which you then install and run. This avoi
One question... Do you work for Google?
On Thursday 14 Feb 2013 15:33:58 j...@osml.eu wrote:
> I see a slightly different future for Linux. The desktop, for many,
> will disappear. The Chromebook is a V2.0 successor to the Network
> Computer. It's a computing device. Read you email: Open a b
I would defiantly be interested in getting further Linux experience whether it
would be through work experience or volunteering. For me that would be a
awesome position to be in.
At my current role in the past I have been called a Open source evangelist, for
setting up a Ubuntu server which wa
On 2013-02-14 12:26, john lewis wrote:
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:33:58 -0500
j...@osml.eu wrote:
I see a slightly different future for Linux. The desktop, for many,
will disappear. The Chromebook is a V2.0 successor to the Network
Computer. It's a computing device. Read you email: Open a brow
On 2013-02-13 11:31, Ally Biggs wrote:
Do you guys ever think there will be a day that Linux will be as
popular as Windows in the desktop market.
Yes, but you may not recognise it.
Personally I can't see this happening anytime soon. This isn't a
personal attack on Linux just want to get some
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:33:58 -0500
j...@osml.eu wrote:
> I see a slightly different future for Linux. The desktop, for many,
> will disappear. The Chromebook is a V2.0 successor to the Network
> Computer. It's a computing device. Read you email: Open a browser
> tab for G-Mail. Edit a docu
On 2013-02-14 10:43, Alan Pope wrote:
On 14/02/13 15:06, j...@osml.eu wrote:
...and it's getting even easier, ne' the Chromebook. (groan issues
from
the collective group) But it's true. It Linux Jim, but not as we
know
it. A large percentage of the MS Windows using public have waken up
to
On 2013-02-13 15:23, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:31:53 +
Ally Biggs wrote:
Hello Ally,
The problem with desktop Linux I think is when the shit hits the fan
and something needs to be configured or a driver needs to be added
your
average user isn't going to want to sit typin
On 14/02/13 15:06, j...@osml.eu wrote:
...and it's getting even easier, ne' the Chromebook. (groan issues from
the collective group) But it's true. It Linux Jim, but not as we know
it. A large percentage of the MS Windows using public have waken up to
the fact that they don't need a 8-core i7
On 2013-02-13 17:02, Alan Pope wrote:
Hi Ally,
On 13/02/13 16:31, Ally Biggs wrote:
Do you guys ever think there will be a day that Linux will be as
popular as Windows in the desktop market.
Given Windows has ~90%+ market share, I fail to see how
mathematically any other distro can be "as po
The TV I bought way back in '08 runs Linux beneath the hood. I didn't know this
until I noticed all the legal notices at the end of the instruction manual...
I've not tried hacking into it yet, waiting until I can afford to replace it...
On 14 Feb 2013, at 15:06, j...@osml.eu wrote:
> On 2013-0
On 2013-02-13 17:31, Lisi wrote:
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 22:02:32 Alan Pope wrote:
I recently (1.5 years ago) installed Ubuntu for a retired chap who
had
only ever used Windows. He requested it because he was sick of
viruses
and slow-downs of Windows. I printed out a getting started guid
On 2013-02-14 12:18, Chris Liddell wrote:
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:53:06 - (GMT)
"Vic" wrote:
> Other companies take PDFs and strip all formatting, as I
discovered
> to my detriment
Think yourself lucky. I had an agent strip an entire page from my CV
once, and had the interviewer rep
On 14 February 2013 10:53, Vic wrote:
>
> > Other companies take PDFs and strip all formatting, as I discovered to
> > my detriment
>
> Think yourself lucky. I had an agent strip an entire page from my CV once,
> and had the interviewer repeatedly complain that I'd done nothing for 3
> years
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:53:06 - (GMT)
"Vic" wrote:
>
> > Other companies take PDFs and strip all formatting, as I discovered
> > to my detriment
>
> Think yourself lucky. I had an agent strip an entire page from my CV
> once, and had the interviewer repeatedly complain that I'd done
> no
> Other companies take PDFs and strip all formatting, as I discovered to
> my detriment
Think yourself lucky. I had an agent strip an entire page from my CV once,
and had the interviewer repeatedly complain that I'd done nothing for 3
years after University.
I lost count of the number of tim
I quite like storing my cv in markdown, it's plain text and easy to read
even in the raw format, easy to version control unlike compressed formats
like word and you can convert it to many different formats including html
and pdf and possibly word (if not you can always copy and paste).
On 14 Feb 20
On 14/02/13 09:52, Chris Malton wrote:
I know the feeling, my CV is part-compiled by LaTeX to PDF - and
unfortunately this is incompatible with many people. I got told
yesterday that I couldn't apply for a job because my CV wasn't in Word
format. and I was applying for a job as a Linux Syste
On 14/02/13 09:35, Gordon Scott wrote:
On 14/02/2013 02:22, Keith Edmunds wrote:
We get people applying for jobs, and sending CVs in in Word format.
That doesn't (yet) automatically rule them out, but it tells us a lot
about them before we've even looked at the CV.
Hm, I should defend those
On 14/02/2013 02:22, Keith Edmunds wrote:
We get people applying for jobs, and sending CVs in in Word format.
That doesn't (yet) automatically rule them out, but it tells us a lot
about them before we've even looked at the CV.
Hm, I should defend those people.
Most of the employment agencies
Dear all
I just wanted to thank Ally for publicly asking the oft-debated with some
good points, then Vic for starting the replies going with an excellent and
understanding response pitched at just the right level.
Thank you to the rest of the responders so far - very informative and
varying opini
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:31:53 +, bluechr...@hotmail.co.uk said:
> Do you guys ever think there will be a day that Linux will be as popular
> as Windows in the desktop market.
Does it matter? Google runs on Linux; Amazon runs on Linux; there is
considerable pressure from Government for more Pu
On 13/02/13 16:31, Ally Biggs wrote:
> Do you guys ever think there will be a day that Linux will be as popular as
> Windows in the desktop market.
>
> Personally I can't see this happening anytime soon. This isn't a personal
> attack on Linux just want to get some thoughts and inspiration.
>
>
A fun at-home project to amaze yourself and friends is to download
XAMPP[1] and use it to run a Drupal[2] CMS web-site on an ageing
laptop. Amazing! Good preparation for the sort of thing you mention.
ATB, Peter
[1] http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html
[2] http://drupal.org/
On 13 February
On 13 Feb 2013 22:31, "Lisi" wrote:
> I commented on the fact, and he said: "I don't have to. It just works."
More recently he said: "Why do people think that Linux is hard when it is
so easy?"
This is a testament to how much work has gone into Linux in the last few
years and how outdated most
Thank you for all your replies has kind of made me realise that my true passion
is with Linux. I am going to work through my Linux+ videos, thinking about
having Centos running as the main host with KVM running Debian and using
something lightweight like LXDE or XFCE on the Deb box.
I think my
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 22:02:32 Alan Pope wrote:
> I recently (1.5 years ago) installed Ubuntu for a retired chap who had
> only ever used Windows. He requested it because he was sick of viruses
> and slow-downs of Windows. I printed out a getting started guide and
> allocated ~2 hours to wa
Hi Ally,
On 13/02/13 16:31, Ally Biggs wrote:
Do you guys ever think there will be a day that Linux will be as
popular as Windows in the desktop market.
Given Windows has ~90%+ market share, I fail to see how mathematically
any other distro can be "as popular" as Windows without Windows
dis
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:31:53 +
Ally Biggs wrote:
Hello Ally,
>The problem with desktop Linux I think is when the shit hits the fan
>and something needs to be configured or a driver needs to be added your
>average user isn't going to want to sit typing commands in a terminal
>or spending hour
I learned initially by running web services and then by
implementing a small-scale Industrial Heater (aka a High Performance
Compute Cluster)
As others have said, what you learn depends entirely what you try to
achieve, and it's the trying to achieve something that you need to focus
on. Find somet
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:31:53 +
Ally Biggs wrote:
> So how did you guys learn Linux?
by installing it and using it!!
> Has anyone else made the transition from Windows? Or what are the key
> areas to focus on to develop a good foundation. Need some inspiration
> if I go down the Linux route
Some nice fodder for the debate here! Perhaps you'd like to speak Ally.
On Wednesday 13 Feb 2013 16:31:53 Ally Biggs wrote:
> Do you guys ever think there will be a day that Linux will be as popular as
> Windows in the desktop market.
Depends what the "desktop" market is, and what you intend to d
On 13 February 2013 16:31, Ally Biggs wrote:
>
> I would say that I enjoy Linux more the whole Open source ethos, I
> actually feel like I am learning when using the cli as opposed to clicking
> my way through the GUI in Windows.
>
Then it is worth considering following the path you find more enjo
Than you for providing me with some insight :) I started with Windows 3.1 and
used it since well apart from Windows ME, Vista and 8 didn't really get on with
those. Windows 7 was pretty solid for everyday use. I never really had a issue
with it and does everything I need it to do. Windows 8 I ha
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 16:31:53 Ally Biggs wrote:
> Do you guys ever think there will be a day that Linux will be as popular as
> Windows in the desktop market.
It will take a long while in the consumerist "west", but the developing
countries are starting to use it. (Brazil, China, India
On 02/13/2013 04:31 PM, Ally Biggs wrote:
Do you guys ever think there will be a day that Linux will be as popular as
Windows in the desktop market.
Not going to happen
Personally I can't see this happening anytime soon. This isn't a personal
attack on Linux just want to get some thoughts an
> Do you guys ever think there will be a day that Linux will be as popular
> as Windows in the desktop market.
Yes.
Not for a while, for sure, but eventually, GNU/Linux will be pervasive.
Android/Linux is already getting there.
I used to think this would take tens of years, but Microsoft seems
Do you guys ever think there will be a day that Linux will be as popular as
Windows in the desktop market.
Personally I can't see this happening anytime soon. This isn't a personal
attack on Linux just want to get some thoughts and inspiration.
I use both Windows and Linux have a strong inter
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