Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-06 Thread pavithran
2009/8/3 Dave Walker davewal...@ubuntu.com: In regards to Mythtv on Ubuntu, we go to great measures to ensure that upgrades (if required) are as clean as possible.  Seeing FUD like the above, really is a slap in the face.  Thanks. I am realy glad to evoke a response from big people as you :)

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-06 Thread Anton Piatek
On 02/08/2009, Stuart Matheson stuart.j.mathe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I did a quick search of the HantsLUG list and couldn't find anything appropriate so please let me know if I've missed something. My girlfriend is moving out of her current splace and will no longer have access to

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-06 Thread Alan Pope
2009/8/6 pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com: Uncertainty : yeah I am afraid if my tv tuner or graphic card gets detected  in linux There is this thing called Google. It has a list of supported devices. Doubt : should I recompile my kernel ? I haven't compiled a kernel _at_ _all_ for 4 years.

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-06 Thread Stephen Rowles
Alan Pope wrote: 2009/8/6 pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com: Uncertainty : yeah I am afraid if my tv tuner or graphic card gets detected in linux There is this thing called Google. It has a list of supported devices. When it comes to TV tuners that still assumes: 1) You can

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-06 Thread Keith Edmunds
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:18:46 +0100, step...@rowles.org.uk said: In my experience TV card support still sucks and it is very hard finding a real person who really has a card that actually works and that you can still buy who will give you advice ;) The MythTV mailing list and website are

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-06 Thread Stephen Rowles
Keith Edmunds wrote: The MythTV mailing list and website are very helpful in this respect. I don't run myth so didn't think of posting there, the linux-dvb mailing list wasn't very helpful. For me I own:

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-06 Thread Keith Edmunds
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:16:49 +0100, step...@rowles.org.uk said: Thanks for cutting me some slack. Sometime I do wonder why I bother with this mailing list as so often I seem to run into people who are more interested in posting a hostile response than fostering a sense of community. Not

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-06 Thread john lewis
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 20:08:43 +0100 Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: Doubt : should I recompile my kernel ? I haven't compiled a kernel _at_ _all_ for 4 years. I did plenty before that, but haven't needed to since. I switched to Ubuntu 4 years ago. Wonder if these things are related

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-05 Thread Adam Sweet
David Webb wrote: Also are there drivers for the VIA CX700M2 graphics chip which is a key component. The total price comes out around £500 (without a blueray writer) which is a bit on the high side. Brief summaries: John Wesley, Hardware + Mythbuntu: £425 processor: Via C7

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-05 Thread Stephen Rowles
On 08/05/2009 11:58 AM, Adam Sweet wrote: Brief summaries: John Wesley, Hardware + Mythbuntu: £425 processor: Via C7 memory: 1 Gb Hard Drive: 1.5 Tb Optical drive: None Graphics: VIA UniChromeTM Pro II 3D/2D AGP *snip* Without some research

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-05 Thread Samuel Penn
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:51:26 +0100, Rob Malpass l...@getiton.myzen.co.uk wrote: From: Samuel Penn s...@glendale.org.uk I use a PS3 for the above, including CD, DVD (not sure about region encoding) and Blu-ray. There is a bluetooth remote for video playback. Does web browsing as well (though

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-05 Thread Keith Edmunds
On a related note, I'd be interested to hear of others' experiences with cases suitable for a media PC. Ideally: smart enough to go in a living room, remote control included or easily added, and a small VFD compatible with MythTV. Any takers? Keith -- Please post to:

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-04 Thread David Webb
I wonder if we can take this discussion a bit further - possibly expanding it so that it does not just cover the 'ultimate' system. If there was a smart linux hardware+software package to fit neatly under the TV for less than £250 that could combine the roles of PVR, network interface and DVD

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-04 Thread Stephen Rowles
On 08/04/2009 03:35 PM, Stephen Rowles wrote: ASRock Ion-330 (No OS) £249.99 (svp.co.uk) Processor: Intel Atom (330 dual core) Memory: 2 Gb (800 mhz) Hard Drive: 320 Gb (2.5inch) Optical drive: DVD re-writer (slimline / laptop) Graphics:

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-04 Thread David Webb
Stephen Rowles wrote: You've missed my suggestions My mistake - sorry about that. What is the position re Linux drivers? Are they the same NVidia ones as the Acer Aspire? David. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface:

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-04 Thread Stephen Rowles
On 08/04/2009 03:52 PM, David Webb wrote: Stephen Rowles wrote: You've missed my suggestions My mistake - sorry about that. No worries. What is the position re Linux drivers? Are they the same NVidia ones as the Acer Aspire? David The drivers are exactly the same as for

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Stuart, 2009/8/2 Stuart Matheson stuart.j.mathe...@gmail.com: What can people recommend for this (unit and remote)? It doesn't necessary have to be brand new so 2nd hand laptops/refurbished PCs aren't out of the question. Like most people (or in her case, public servants) she is pretty

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Pavithran, 2009/8/2 pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com: Yes I am suggesting someone to use a proprietary software in a linux list but I am afraid that there is no *viable* FOSS alternative :( Untrue. MythTV, Boxee and XBMC are all (for the most part) FOSS alternatives to Windows Media Centre.

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Vic
Install http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Media_Center and enjoy :D You are having a laugh. The only people who *enjoy* WMC are those of us who get paid for fixing it. Yes I am suggesting someone to use a proprietary software in a linux list but I am afraid that there is no *viable* FOSS

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Hugo Mills
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 11:32:46PM +0100, pavithran wrote: *lack of video standards ( Yes MPEG is a ISO standard but mp3,divx thrive ) etc etc etc MP3 and DivX *are* standardised: MP3 is MPEG-1 audio layer 3, a profile of the MPEG-1 standards[1]. DivX is not a video format; it is a

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread John Wesley
2009/8/2 Stuart Matheson stuart.j.mathe...@gmail.com Hi Everyone, I did a quick search of the HantsLUG list and couldn't find anything appropriate so please let me know if I've missed something. My girlfriend is moving out of her current splace and will no longer have access to the expert

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Stephen Rowles
On 08/03/2009 09:41 AM, Alan Pope wrote: Hi Pavithran, 2009/8/2 pavithranpavithra...@gmail.com: Yes I am suggesting someone to use a proprietary software in a linux list but I am afraid that there is no *viable* FOSS alternative :( Untrue. MythTV, Boxee and XBMC are all (for the most

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Stephen Rowles
On 08/03/2009 10:31 AM, John Wesley wrote: 2009/8/2 Stuart Matheson stuart.j.mathe...@gmail.com mailto:stuart.j.mathe...@gmail.com Hi Everyone, I did a quick search of the HantsLUG list and couldn't find anything appropriate so please let me know if I've missed something. My

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Stephen Rowles
On 08/03/2009 10:47 AM, Stephen Rowles wrote: Or if you don't want to build it yourself: http://www.svp.co.uk/systems-pcs/value/pc-asrock-ion-330-pc-system-no-os-black_mte-01011.html Dual core ion system, tiny case, from all reports it is silent in operation. Uses NVIDIA's ION platform so

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Paul Stimpson
Hi, I would try some of the alternatives mentioned here but if you can't find one that works for her and she likes XBMC have you considered XBMC on an xbox again? Second hand Xbox 1.6 crystal £50 Chip / getting it chipped £30-50 Big hard drive £60 XBMC software £free from xbins Cheers, Paul.

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Hugo Mills
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 12:46:19PM +0100, Dave Walker wrote: Regarding media, the ONLY codec i have had issues with is on high-def .mkv (Makarov), however - currently the limitation is on MY hardware Minor nit-picks: MKV is Matroksa (Matryoshka), not Makarov. It's a container format, not a

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Alan Pope
2009/8/3 Stephen Davies stephen.dav...@ultraconsulting.co.uk: If you have to build some kernel modules and it is a real PITA when the kernel is upgraded to get it all working again We have DKMS in Ubuntu so I don't think this is quite the issue it has been in the past. Out of kernel modules get

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Vic
We have DKMS in Ubuntu ...and everywhere else as well. DKMS isn't quite as clean as it might be - but it does give the lie to all those waily you've got to recompile the kernel just to use Linux FUDs... Vic. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface:

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Stephen Rowles
On 08/03/2009 12:30 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: I am puzzled by one of the responses to this thread. If you have to build some kernel modules and it is a real PITA when the kernel is upgraded to get it all working again then as this is a Media Centre and therefore a pretty statically defined

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Imran Chaudhry
My girlfriend is moving out of her current splace and will no longer have access to the expert she had there (ie someone with an xbox with xbmc). I'm looking for a quiet multimedia PC that can be plugged into a TV for watching iplayer, youtube and other online video as well as video files and

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Stephen Rowles
On 08/03/2009 01:23 PM, Vic wrote: We have DKMS in Ubuntu ...and everywhere else as well. DKMS isn't quite as clean as it might be - but it does give the lie to all those waily you've got to recompile the kernel just to use Linux FUDs... Vic. Ok, I don't fully understand DKMS,

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Vic
Ok, I don't fully understand DKMS, but how does it help when you have downloaded a source tree from git and compiled and installed the modules it creates? I thought it only helped if you had installed a proper DKMS package? For each lump of code you want to add to your kernel, you create a

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Dave Walker
Vic wrote: SNIP For each lump of code you want to add to your kernel, you create a DKMS configuration file. This describes what code is to be built, and how. At boot time, the DKMS manager inspects the list of known things against the kernel just booted. Any that aren't available are built

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Philip Stubbs
2009/8/3 Dave Walker davewal...@ubuntu.com: As a Mythbuntu co-founder and a member of the MythTV packages on Ubuntu team, i am kind of shocked with this response. Ok, I like MythTV. It is almost ideal for what I want, and is by far the closest thing to a perfect fit for me. However, why is it

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Hugo Mills
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 07:53:59PM +0100, Stuart Matheson wrote: My girlfriend is moving out of her current splace and will no longer have access to the expert she had there (ie someone with an xbox with xbmc). I'm looking for a quiet multimedia PC that can be plugged into a TV for watching

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Chris Dennis
Philip Stubbs wrote: 2009/8/3 Dave Walker davewal...@ubuntu.com: As a Mythbuntu co-founder and a member of the MythTV packages on Ubuntu team, i am kind of shocked with this response. Ok, I like MythTV. It is almost ideal for what I want, and is by far the closest thing to a perfect fit for

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Stuart Matheson
This looks interesting although her telly doesn't have a HDMI port :( I might have to look for a cheap 2nd hand laptop. A dead battery (whilst being the norm for this kind of item) wouldn't be a problem. 2009/8/3 Alan Pope a...@popey.com Hi Stuart, 2009/8/2 Stuart Matheson

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Alastair Biggs
worthwhile investment? Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:52:03 +0100 From: h...@carfax.org.uk To: hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC? On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 07:53:59PM +0100, Stuart Matheson wrote: My girlfriend is moving out of her current splace

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-03 Thread Hugo Mills
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:43:09PM +, Alastair Biggs wrote: I was looking at investing in a Popcorn Hour after reading a review in Linux Format, Is it anygood at handling HD movies? I don't have an HD TV, so the point is difficult for me to answer satisfactorily. However, I did try

[Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-02 Thread Stuart Matheson
Hi Everyone, I did a quick search of the HantsLUG list and couldn't find anything appropriate so please let me know if I've missed something. My girlfriend is moving out of her current splace and will no longer have access to the expert she had there (ie someone with an xbox with xbmc). I'm

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-02 Thread Samuel Penn
On Sunday 02 August 2009 19:53:59 Stuart Matheson wrote: looking for a quiet multimedia PC that can be plugged into a TV for watching iplayer, youtube and other online video as well as video files and possibly a dvd (I have an external dvd player she could use though so it isn't a deal

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-02 Thread Keith Edmunds
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:32:46 +0100, pavithra...@gmail.com said: you better give a software which even if updated wont ever break You're talking about Windows upgrades never breaking? I'm speechless. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: