Re: [Hardhats-members] possible taskman problem---- Nursing module

2005-04-21 Thread Anna Joseph
Cameron, So that means that I must invoke the routine/option only from the nurse's menu? Just to be sure, I did that again using the options below. I have follwed the setup as per the Nursing V.4.0 Technical Manual and Package Security Guide (pg 1.1 - 1.10) GTMD ^XUP Setting up programmer

Re: [Hardhats-members] Configurability of fields in FileMan

2005-04-21 Thread Molly Cheah
Are the documents you referred to at this web-site? The documents were last revised in 2000, but some of the frameworks were marked as is and some to be With current date 2005, its hard to tell if those marked to be had been implemented. Health Information Architecture

Re: [Hardhats-members] IHS system???

2005-04-21 Thread Floyd Dennis
Title: Re: [Hardhats-members] IHS system??? There appears to be some confusion on the nature of the IHS patient files Health Record Number. I dont know if clarification is possible, but Ill give it a shot. : 1. Like many of the initial RPMS modules, the IHS Patient Registration system is

Re: [Hardhats-members] IHS system???

2005-04-21 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Tantalized and becoming less confused would describe me, and hoping someone would be willing to help us document how to implement this for the WorldVistA Wiki. BTW, it sure is nice to see posts coming from IHS folks. The experience you all have had with adapting VistA for the Real World

RE: [Hardhats-members] IHS system???

2005-04-21 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Contr AFRL/IFSE
Title: Re: [Hardhats-members] IHS system??? Some questions. 1) can one patch the VA Vista to use the HIS files or do they have to start with fileman and install HIS packages to get RPMS 2) is there a way to install multiple packages or is there a base install to load RPMS onto a

RE: [Hardhats-members] Configurability of fields in FileMan

2005-04-21 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Contr AFRL/IFSE
A three layered approach that separates the data, the Model, and the view. The data is the database the model contains any business logic and the view displays it all. The three parts are designed so that any on part can be totally replaced without the other two knowing that the one was changed.

[Hardhats-members] Canadian Think Smart Initiative question on LMN.

2005-04-21 Thread Ignacio Valdes
This just in on LMN: http://www.linuxmednews.com/1114090027 Why has Ontario, Canada chosen to link their Smart Systems for Health Agency to the proprietary .NET technologies? I recently was perusing the website for the Ontario, Canada Smart Health initiative and noticed that a lot of the job

Re: [Hardhats-members] Configurability of fields in FileMan

2005-04-21 Thread Richard G. DAVIS
Molly, The reference you provide is a much more extensive and detailed presentation of the subject than my paper. It is, at its title indicates, a view of Information Architecture. Rich in details, the presentation here almost has too many notes. :-) My paper approaches the subject under the

Re: [Hardhats-members] After a nice nap... I have a proposal for documentation....

2005-04-21 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
--- Doctor Bones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course Kevin beat me to it :P I haven't beat you to it. I just documented some of what I did. Now if you document what you are doing (which is different than mine), we can perhaps combine them and be even better off. But here is my proposal

Re: [Hardhats-members] After a nice nap... I have a proposal for documentation....

2005-04-21 Thread Doctor Bones
I started with a fresh install last night... then realized that I didn't like the format of the document... so I am starting again today. Once I finish through to the end of Nancy and Marks Documentation. I will post it on the wiki... then... I would like to distribute accounts so that others can

Re: [Hardhats-members] IHS system???

2005-04-21 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
--- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tantalized and becoming less confused would describe me, and hoping someone would be willing to help us document how to implement this for the WorldVistA Wiki. BTW, it sure is nice to see posts coming from IHS folks. I'd like to second

Re: [Hardhats-members] Configurability of fields in FileMan

2005-04-21 Thread Richard G. DAVIS
I need to amend my comment below. Specifically, as I refer to the distinction between architecture as structure, and architecture as PROCESS, I do not mean to include the VHA IT architecture presentation. On the contrary, there is an explicit recognition of this distinction in that site and an

Re: [Hardhats-members] Installing KIDS

2005-04-21 Thread Bill Garrett
I tried to do KIDS install on a (reasonably) fresh install of 'OpenVista SemiVivA FOIA Gold 20050212' and found that %ZISF for GT.M didn't exist. This is the routine that supports host files on GT.M for Unix/VMS (according to its header). It should have been put in place by ZTMGRSET, so I

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Transfer Entries not updating variable pointer fields

2005-04-21 Thread Robert H Dobbins/HOSPOPS/VET/UTIA
Nancy, What sorts of things are we likely to notice trouble with? DIPT ;SFISC/XAK,TKW-DISPLAY PRINT OR SORT TEMPLATE ;7/3/96 17:23 ;;22.0;VA FileMan;;Mar 30, 1999 Files with fields that are Variable pointers, won't have the variable pointer fields updated during a transfer entries process.

RE: [Hardhats-members] IHS system???

2005-04-21 Thread Richard . Sowinski
Kevin, I am not aware of any hard feelings between IHS and VA. Your first annonymous poster seemed to want to create some, though. IMO anyone who wants to post annonymously, to this board, is expecting to create controversy, but wants to avoid responsibilty for what they say. Kind of like

Re: [Hardhats-members] Canadian Think Smart Initiative question on LMN.

2005-04-21 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Take a look at the last post on the first page and the second page. All is not lost. From what I understand of .NET, Open Source .NET languages could replace the stuff done in proprietary .NET languages. The compiled product should be the same not matter what .NET it is written in. All is

RE: [Hardhats-members] Canadian Think Smart Initiative question o n LMN.

2005-04-21 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Contr AFRL/IFSE
.NET is an application framework Microsoft is using against JAVA they are similar in what they can do but for now the only MS supported runtime is written for MS Win2K and XP. There also is a way to write a program in .NET and to compile to JAVA byte codes so potentially you could do this and

Re: [Hardhats-members] IHS system???

2005-04-21 Thread A. Forrey
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tantalized and becoming less confused would describe me, and hoping someone would be willing to help us document how to implement this for the WorldVistA Wiki. BTW, it sure is nice to see posts coming from

Re: [Hardhats-members] IHS system???

2005-04-21 Thread James Gray
One of the more interesting is names for newborns. To enter a patient into RPMS they must have a name (.01 field in file 2). You may need a .01 value before the infant has a name. So newborns end up with names like Babygirl Begay. Then when the infant is given a name the name is changed in

Re: [Hardhats-members] Installing KIDS

2005-04-21 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Nice work! Now to find out why ZTMGRSET didn't work. On Thursday 21 April 2005 10:33 am, Bill Garrett wrote: I tried to do KIDS install on a (reasonably) fresh install of 'OpenVista SemiVivA FOIA Gold 20050212' and found that %ZISF for GT.M didn't exist. This is the routine that supports

RE: [Hardhats-members] possible taskman problem---- Nursing module

2005-04-21 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
Whether from the nurses menus or directly from XUP, it is the same since there are no entry actions in prior menus. I was pointing out that TaskMan would have it in its task list only if it was tasked to run, which isnt what happens when invoked directly from the menu (or XUP, which is

Re: [Hardhats-members] Installing KIDS

2005-04-21 Thread Bhaskar, KS
Nancy -- I ran ZTMGRSET before packaging the release, and it did its thing. Had it not worked, even basic entry points like ^XUP and P^DI would not have worked. Bill simply ran it again. However, an omission from ZTMGRSET appears to be that it doesn't copy ZISFGTM.m to _ZISF.m. -- Bhaskar On

RE: [Hardhats-members] Canadian Think Smart Initiative question o n LMN.

2005-04-21 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Of course, .NET and web wervices are different things. Web services can be implemented nicely in Java if desired, but the .NET framework relies on proprietary technologies as you have described here. What is unfortunate is that technologies such as XML, SOAP and even HTTP tend to be

Re: [Hardhats-members] IHS system???

2005-04-21 Thread Nancy Anthracite
This problem was addressed by the Pediatric HL7 Special interest group. Not only are there no names to start out with, but there are likely to be situations with multiple names being used for the same child, both legally and otherwise with foster care, adoption, separated parents, etc. The

RE: [Hardhats-members] IHS system???

2005-04-21 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
The first VistA-Office EHR release will in fact have the RPMS code to handle HRNs as used by IHS. While the formal release by VHA of the code to VistA may not happen until after the release of VistA-Office due among other things to routine overlaps in patches slated to be released by VHA in the

Re: [Hardhats-members] IHS system???

2005-04-21 Thread Greg Woodhouse
I guess I'm missing something. PID-5, patient name, is a repeating fieled, anyway. --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This problem was addressed by the Pediatric HL7 Special interest group. Not only are there no names to start out with, but there are likely to be situations

RE: [Hardhats-members] Installing KIDS

2005-04-21 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
ZTMGRSET uses the ZISFGUX routine to copy into %ZISF for the GT.M (Unix) selection and uses ZISFGTM for the GT.M (VMS) selection. It sounds like that is wrong for the Unix (used also for the Linux) selection. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [Hardhats-members] Installing KIDS

2005-04-21 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Yes, I figured the problem was in the ZTMGRSET code. The one I have in the VA demo is probably not the same one as he has as I stole it out of a working version of VistA on GTM, so Bill, would you please email me your ZTMGRSET.m? On Thursday 21 April 2005 12:28 pm, Bhaskar, KS wrote: Nancy --

Re: [Hardhats-members] IHS system???

2005-04-21 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Your not missing anything but typing ability. I am missing that and knowledge of VistA. Thanks for the heads up! ;-) On Thursday 21 April 2005 12:49 pm, Greg Woodhouse wrote: I guess I'm missing something. PID-5, patient name, is a repeating fieled, anyway. --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL

Re: [Hardhats-members] Installing KIDS

2005-04-21 Thread Bill Garrett
That's right - ZTMGRSET wants to use ZISFGTM for GT.M on VMS and ZISFGUX for GT.M on Unix as seen in the code sample below; however, the ZISFGUX routine is missing from the 'OpenVista SemiVivA FOIA Gold 20050212' build, so ZTMGRSET ends up copying nothing into %ZISF. Also, note that the first

RE: [Hardhats-members] Installing KIDS

2005-04-21 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
When operating system # 8 (GTM) is chosen then routine 8 is called. It does the moving by setting the source files into %S, and destination files into %D. Below one can see that the 4th source file is ZISFGTM and the 4th dest file is %ZISF. So I don't know why the file isn't being copied

Re: [Hardhats-members] Installing KIDS

2005-04-21 Thread Nancy Anthracite
ZISFGUX is what you want. On Thursday 21 April 2005 05:04 pm, Bill Garrett wrote: That's right - ZTMGRSET wants to use ZISFGTM for GT.M on VMS and ZISFGUX for GT.M on Unix as seen in the code sample below; however, the ZISFGUX routine is missing from the 'OpenVista SemiVivA FOIA Gold 20050212'

Re: [Hardhats-members] Installing KIDS

2005-04-21 Thread SCHLEHUBER.CAMERON
Wally just e-mailed me to indicate it should be ZISFGTM for GT.M (Unix) selections. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live

Re: [Hardhats-members] Installing KIDS

2005-04-21 Thread Bill Garrett
Interestingly, the custom ZTMGRSET script that Keven mentioned in his response (thanks Keven) is copying ZISFGTM for GT.M on Unix. So there must have been a change to ZTMGRSET somewhere along the way as the builds evolved. Like I said, ZISFGTM is working so far, but I would be interested in

[Hardhats-members] Shorter messages in GT.M V5.0-000

2005-04-21 Thread Bhaskar, KS
Each GT.M message is identified by a name, e.g., ACTLSTEXP. Quoting from the Messages and Recovery Procedures Manual: ACTLSTEXP, Actuallist expected Run Time Error: This indicates that the DO command, without an actuallist of parameters, failed because its entryref

Re: [Hardhats-members] Installing KIDS

2005-04-21 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I am sure there was, at least in the code I have been working with, and I was unaware of the change so I am sorry for the disinformation! On Thursday 21 April 2005 06:41 pm, Bill Garrett wrote: Interestingly, the custom ZTMGRSET script that Keven mentioned in his response (thanks Keven) is

Re: [Hardhats-members] IHS System

2005-04-21 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
VueCentric is not open source nor FOIA From the IHS website: A private corporation, Clinical Informatics Associates, under contract to IHS, owns the framework technology for IHS·EHR, called VueCentric. VueCentric is not an end user application, but is a technical infrastructure that supports