Re: [Hardhats-members] So...how do you stat a file?

2006-01-14 Thread LD 'Gus' Landis
Hi, Sounds like an opportunity for an SSVN to me. What is the vox populi on the notion of SSVNs anyway? Cheers, --ldl On 1/14/06, Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bhaskar wrote: Code specific to each MUMPS implementation should belong in the kernel, isolated from the applications.

Re: [Hardhats-members] So...how do you stat a file?

2006-01-14 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I'll be dumb. What is SSVN?KevinOn 1/14/06, LD 'Gus' Landis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,Sounds like an opportunity for an SSVN to me.What is the vox populi on the notion of SSVNs anyway? Cheers,--ldlOn 1/14/06, Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bhaskar wrote: Code specific to each MUMPS

Re: [Hardhats-members] So...how do you stat a file?

2006-01-14 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Jan 14, 2006, at 5:00 AM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: I'll be dumb. What is SSVN? Kevin SSVN = Structured System Variable Name. I'm told that GT.M doesn't support them (correct me if I'm wrong), but if you're using Cache or another MUMPS implementation, you might try $ORDERing through

[Hardhats-members] Namespaces and modules

2006-01-14 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Something else that I think would greatly benefit the language is support for namespaces and modules, and it's a real shame that it wasn't properly standardized. Think about it: One of the biggest headaches of VistA development is having to assign name and numberspaces to each application.

Re: [Hardhats-members] So...how do you stat a file?

2006-01-14 Thread Bhaskar, KS
SSVNs are an attempt to provide a standard way to provide access to some features that were previously provided in a non-standard way on different MUMPSen. Unfortunately, M standardizes the names of SSVNs but not their behavior, so they are effectively useless as standards - it's much easier to

RE: [Hardhats-members] Changing out the Cache.dat in Cache

2006-01-14 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
All I've ever had to do is Stop Cache under the Cache Cube and select Shutdown, swap out the desired cache.dat and then Start Cache under the Cache Cube. I've never stopped any service under Control Panel. I wonder if you nailed a service that shouldn't have been stopped, or stopping it under

Re: [Hardhats-members] Changing out the Cache.dat in Cache

2006-01-14 Thread Nancy Anthracite
May I ask what version of Cache you are running? Mine is 5.018 and I didn't have trouble with some of the older ones doing this. They acted just like you discribe, except that I had to be sure they shut down all the way because, unlike now, the Cache controller in Services entry would not

RE: [Hardhats-members] Changing out the Cache.dat in Cache

2006-01-14 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
Cache 5.0.11 I wonder if journaling is involved. There may have been a different default on your later install. If it's just a difference in the version, that's pretty ugly for those of us who need to frequently restore accounts quickly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Hardhats-members] Interleaving

2006-01-14 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
How can you demonstrate the interleaving of jobs without disturbing it with explicit synchronization? I actually did this in PLT Scheme as follows (define (the-body x) (begin (let loop ((i 0)) (begin (if ( i 25) (begin (display x)

Re: [Hardhats-members] So...how do you stat a file?

2006-01-14 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Jan 14, 2006, at 10:29 AM, Bhaskar, KS wrote: SSVNs are an attempt to provide a standard way to provide access to some features that were previously provided in a non-standard way on different MUMPSen. That sounds right. Unfortunately, M standardizes the names of SSVNs but not their

Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman SEARCH frustration

2006-01-14 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
OK. I have just spent at least 2 hrs trying to get it working, and I have failed again. I don't have apache2. I have scoured the net and have not figured out how to uninstall my apache and install apache2. Apt-get install apache2 -- can't find package. apt-get install apache-mpm-prefork -- no

Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman SEARCH frustration

2006-01-14 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I am going to take a stab at this from what I know from using apt on my system, thanks to my son who takes good care of my Linux issues when he is available. I suspect that you have to define what servers apt is allowed to use. In Debian, that is done in /etc/apt/sources.list . This is the

Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman SEARCH frustration

2006-01-14 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Well, I edited the entries in the httpd.conf so that all references to apache2 where removed or changed to httpd equivalents, and now it is starting. But when I browse to a default home page, I am gettting a GT.M compile error. I'll keep working on this. . Kevin On 1/14/06, Kevin Toppenberg

Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman SEARCH frustration

2006-01-14 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
On 1/14/06, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am gettting a GT.M compile error. I'll keep working on this. Actually it's not a compile error, but just that it hadn't been compiled. A simple zl filename fixed the problem. I have seen Baskar do a command that will compile all the

Re: [Hardhats-members] So...how do you stat a file?

2006-01-14 Thread Bhaskar, KS
On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 21:03 -0600, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: [KSB] ...snip... so they are effectively useless as standards - it's much easier to accommodate differences in syntax than it is differences in semantics. I'm not quite sure what you mean here. In fact, one of my major

[Hardhats-members] Re: Teaching and Learning

2006-01-14 Thread Stephen Hay
Joseph's and John's words reminded me of a course I once did with the World Health Organisation. Amazingly, I have the monograph in front of me, Educational Handbook for Health Personnel, J-J. Guilbert, 1992. In it, they draw heavily on the work of Mager (mid-50s) and strongly advise that

[Hardhats-members] Wisdom from SICP

2006-01-14 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
I came across the following in a footnote to The Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs: A perfectly rational dog placed between two equally attractive sources of food will starve to death. --Jean Buridan (14th cent. French philosopher) The context was a discussion of lock

Re: [Hardhats-members] Interleaving

2006-01-14 Thread Jim Self
Gregory wrote: How can you demonstrate the interleaving of jobs without disturbing it with explicit synchronization? JOB BODY(A) JOB BODY(B) where BODY is just a FOR loop BODY(X) ; FOR I=1:1:25 WRITE X QUIT But, of course that's not allowed, because background jobs can't write to the