On Sun, 2005-10-23 at 00:36 -0400, Roy Gaber wrote:
Understood.
What is it that you are looking for? The application data can be had by
looking at the RPC code on both the client and the server. You can view it
using a sniffer as well.
Roy,
His point is not that he is incapable of
On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 02:11 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
Who is working on the Pharmacy Benefits management stuff?
Does this have anything to do with Converting CPRS to Java, or creating
a crossplatform client at all?
If not, why is it not its own thread with its own subject, and without
inline
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 12:30 -0500, Mark Dalton wrote:
CPRS would take too long for me alone to do in my spare time. (rarely
available) :)
Also I don't have/use Delphi, which is not standard in the HPC world
but then neither
is Java (yet).
I was curious how much it would cost to have a
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 12:34 -0700, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
--- Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
with a task something that a larger team at the VA (that has
easier
access to testing, and QA facilities) has been working on for 10+
years.
That can be deceptive, too. It hasn't been
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 12:37 -0700, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
--- Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So yeah, I'd say not for the faint of heart.
--Todd
I might add that developing a NEW product could prove to be easier, and
a more successful strategy than trying to port the old
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 13:20 -0700, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
--- Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 12:37 -0700, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
--- Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So yeah, I'd say not for the faint of heart.
--Todd
snip
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 15:50 -0500, Mark Dalton wrote:
I was not meaning for it to be a big discussion, just curious if it
would be a good path to take.
I was hoping to find a simple solution and to help make development
quicker and easier
for us to work on it and have it truely portable
Ruben, I will reply to both emails here. So here is the bits from the
first that I am replying to:
What kind of thing would that be?
Just stuff like parts of the templating engine for example, there are a
lot of interesting behaviours that you
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 18:16 -0400, K.S. Bhaskar wrote:
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 17:01 -0500, Todd Berman wrote:
[KSB] ...snip...
We are hoping to make it available under open licensing and with a
completely transparent development model, but the main stumbling
block
right now
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 19:20 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
If you have followed any of my previous discussions with Kevin, we *ARE*
using gtk+, but using gtk+ has nothing to do with the language that you
end up using.
gtk is a toolkit. I've been using it for about 7 years, along with gnome.
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 19:22 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
The stuff ximian uses wouldn't work? I can contact Nat Friedman et al if you
need.
Hahaha.
Sorry dude, but name dropping with me doesn't work, if I wanted to talk
to Nat or Miguel, I would just pick up my cell and call them.
Ximian
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 19:53 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 04:28:41PM -0700, Todd Berman wrote:
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 19:22 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
The stuff ximian uses wouldn't work? I can contact Nat Friedman et al if
you need.
Hahaha.
Sorry dude
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 20:09 -0400, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
Could we put the weapons down, please?
Awww! :)
Yes.
snip
I would appreciate it if you would expand on your reasoning for the
selection of a particular product or library rather than just spar with each
other. There is much to
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 20:17 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
What tool is 'their tool'? Bugzilla is a web interface, so I dont
understand what 'has bugzilla and the a web interface' means.
Call Nat on your cell and ask him. Bugzilla messages end up on a web
site where they tract the bugs
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 20:46 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
It just takes time is all. Time that we are spending in other places
right now. I am trying to find time to spend in that place so we can
open up the development, but it just isn't there today.
If someone in this community was
On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 00:21 -0400, David Sommers wrote:
MONO IS AN OPTION. (read more...)
David, I am happy to inform you that you have won a cookie. Chocolate
chip or pecan, your choice :). (And yes, it is not only an option, it is
the stark beautiful reality) (And it runs amazingly well).
On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 01:08 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 00:21 -0400, David Sommers wrote:
MONO IS AN OPTION. (read more...)
Is David Sugar will working with Mono? I've been trying to track him
down for months.
A quick grep through the mono and mcs ChangeLogs dont
On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 01:24 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 18:04 -0700, Todd Berman wrote:
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 20:46 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
It just takes time is all. Time that we are spending in other places
right now. I am trying to find time to spend
On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 01:30 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
David was the head of Bayonne and was working with dotgnu and did a lot
of unrelated work with C++ libs and Object or Common C. He's a FSF
speaker and lives/lived near Morris NJ. I lost touch with him about a
year ago. I think I got a
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 21:37 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
OK, Let's say I am willing to support .pdf files.
Anyone have ideas about how to go about this:
-- OLE adobe's reader?
-- Determine what Todd's mystery library is (gtk+?)
libpoppler. Again, not a viable option for a Delphi/Win32
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 21:16 -0500, Mark Dalton wrote:
Isn't the goal to move to portability? In other words away
from Delphi? That is one of the problems with CPRS already.
Speaking from experience, reimplementing CPRS is not for the faint of
heart, and honestly, is not going to be
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 15:11 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
Here is what I do know,
The biggest arguments/discussions that we have on this list refer to
issues of windows vs linux and who's favorite open source license is
better than the other guy's.
If that is how you have followed any
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 18:47 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
I have taken a few minutes and went through several (but not all) of
the modules in VistAImaging to see how it uses the propriatary graphic
module TGear created by AccuSoft (www.accusoft.com).
Here are the methods and properties that
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 19:16 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
Hmmm what are you all doing for upload scanning/rotating/manipulation
etc.?
We have (and are) writing code to do it, so you can do all of your basic
manipulations from inside our application.
We do not have an integrated TWAIN
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 21:29 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
Todd,
Tell me about why .pdf is important.
Because PDF is the natural choice for text documents, just as TIFF was
10 years ago.
I could attach any file I want to a note. The issue will be the
generation of thumbnails, and also
On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 10:01 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
On 10/9/05, Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-snip-
Could you post a link to this library?
Happily. We are using gdk-pixbuf, which is a lower level library in the
gtk+ toolkit. (Sorry, I kinda assumed the toolkit we were
On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 18:13 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
Good point.
I am putting the thumbnails on tabs of a tab control. So it is really
just a postage sized picture to let the user know which image is on
which tab. And because of the way that Delphi does this, all the
images have to
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:35 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:24, Dr Molly Cheah wrote:
Why not convert to mp3 files and podcast it?
Molly
Because you need a license for the mp3 format, you get sued and then it
sucks.
You need a license if you are making money with
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 20:46 -0400, Greg Kreis wrote:
What about VistALink? Could it be used to support SOAP? Maybe the
latest version or a planned one will?
Not really. My understanding of what VistALink is, is just an
implementation of the client end of the RPC broker in Java instead of
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 22:50 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 20:42, Todd Berman wrote:
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:35 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:24, Dr Molly Cheah wrote:
Why not convert to mp3 files and podcast it?
Molly
Because you
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 23:30 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
Well, I have been working unsuccesfully for a couple days trying to
come up with an open source solution for creating TGA thumbnails.
Quick background: VistAImaging stores thumbnails with an extension
.ABS, but the file type is
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 23:52 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 23:00, Todd Berman wrote:
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 22:50 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 20:42, Todd Berman wrote:
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:35 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18
On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 00:14 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
See below:
On 10/8/05, Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-snip-
Such an approach means that others can run the end binary, but not
compile (or optimize) the code.
Or ours (which btw, loads TGA thumbnails w/o issues
Hey,
Just ran across an interesting link from slashdot that I found germane
to a previous discussion on this list relating to the GPL and loopholes
in it. http://news.com.com/Nessus+security+tool+closes+its
+source/2100-7344_3-5890093.html?tag=nefd.hed
(beware of line wrapping)
--Todd
On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 09:12 -0400, Jim Drash wrote:
There are no real loopholes in GPL. Let me run through an example.
Dude.
Did you even read the article?
It clearly states that competitors are using his GPLd code, with
modifications, but selling it as an appliance, thus not distributing a
On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 04:54 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
Hmmm. Why did someone choose THAT format?
I don't think I have code that outputs in TGA format. So I think I
will not upload .ABS thumbnails.
If the only client that you are going to use for this is your custom
CPRS or whatever, I
On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 11:47 -0400, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
I would also like to point out that there are other potential solutions that
are browser based, and a solution in the pipeline from the VA, but that will
probably not be totally cross platform for a number of years, and then you
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 13:06 +0530, Suchi Pande wrote:
Todd Berman wrote:
As much as I disagree with what you are saying (Flashroms updates (this
is where the FSF wins) are distributed binary, so you do need to
distribute the source)(There are companies today shipping network
appliances using
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 00:02 -0600, Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
If someone takes Little Red Riding Hood and just changes the word Red
wherever it shows up to Green, then claims a copyright of some kind or
another on it, and someone else changes every other word Red to Green
(half red and half
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 13:19 +0530, Suchi Pande wrote:
I wrote:
Open source is usually one of two licence styles. BSD style and GPL style.
Todd Berman wrote:
But for sure, there are for more styles of licenses than those 2.
More explicitly, I am saying that all open source licences have
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 09:00 -0600, Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
And as for the examples of hiding code in an appliance and selling -that-,
well, if I sold a PC as an appliance with Windows XP and didn't forward
the license fees to Microsoft, and made a big enough splash that got
Microsoft's
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 18:20 +, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
wrote:
No, that is also why Samba could not write to NTFS file systems for so long
and why OpenOffice could not open Microsoft Word documents until they used
xml as the storage format.
Uh.
I use OpenOffice every day to open
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 08:50 +0530, Suchi Pande wrote:
ELSIE CASUGAY wrote:
This whole thing VISTA-OFFICE is entirely unfair not only to the physicians
but also to vendors. I feel like it is being controlled by some group. This
VA software is FOIA and supposed to be open source but I have
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 12:25 -0400, Dr. Schrom wrote:
I'm not opposed to allowing authors of proprietary software to have free rein
to market their software and support as aggressively as their business ethics
allows. VistA is in the public domain under FOIA, therefore CMS really
shouldn't
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 10:33 -0700, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
I don't think that follows. Being available through FOIA doesn't imply
a GPL style license.
Absolutely.
As an aside, has there been any confirmation that VOE will be released
into the public domain, or under any OSI compat license?
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 12:26 -0700, Jim Self wrote:
Todd Berman wrote:
The other thing that BSD code allows you to do that you are missing is
it actually allowed greater *developer* freedom.
Please explain. As I understand it, the only thing lost to developers in
using the GPL
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 18:39 -0400, K.S. Bhaskar wrote:
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 11:45 -0500, Todd Berman wrote:
[KSB] ...snip...
No. That is *WHAT* Public Domain means. It means anyone can take
anything and do anything with it. Which is why CMS can take
[KSB] Not to pick nits
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 18:26 -0700, Jim Self wrote:
Todd Berman wrote:
If I am writing a program under a non-GPL compat license (and this does
not mean commercial, there are plenty of popular OSI compat licenses
that are not GPL compat, like the Apache License for example). I can not
use a GPL
On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 16:00 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
I have just spent some time going through the code. I have documented
what I found out here:
http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=VistA_Imaging_Issues
I am fairly sure that the https://myserver.com/; would be
On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 12:55 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
Do you know where this https:// was stored?
I thought that is was in field PHYSICAL REFERENCE (#1) in the NETWORK
LOCATION file.
That I am not entirely sure of. That was setup by one of our VistA
experts, not by myself. I can
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 17:29 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
Todd,
So let me see if I understand you.
1. From your client, you change any /'s into \'s before passing
the info to the RPC. Then, when you request the info back again, the
client changes any \'s to / before using the
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 19:58 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
See below
On 9/16/05, Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 17:29 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
Todd,
So let me see if I understand you.
1. From your client, you change any /'s into \'s before
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 18:45 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
I am (still) working on a document imaging etc. I had thought that I
would try to use as much of the existing server RPC's etc to avoid
re-inventing the wheel.
But it looks like the use of \ as a file path node separator
(instead
On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 23:50 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
Perl and Python are real programming languages and PHP is a tool kit
which has gotten very popular with impatient programmers who are often
not as rigorous in their training as they could be.
Ruben.
I believe the following quote is
On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 08:54 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
The other issue. Will your solution require the two-server setup,
running SOAP (which I know nothing about).
Obviously, I am not a software engineer, and have had no formal
training. I just want a solution that is simple and works.
On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 11:15 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
I am working on document imaging. And more specifically, transferring
images (i.e. binary data) to and from a Windows client, written in
Delphi pascal.
I have become convinced that transferring the file through the RPC
Broker is
On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 08:58 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 11:15 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
2. Could RPCBroker be beefed up to handle binary data?
It already does. We use it to transfer progress notes in languages that
use a MBCS very successfully.
I should
On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 11:52 -0500, John Leo Zimmer wrote:
-- Original Message ---
From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 10:59:11 -0400
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Bitwise operators in GT.M?
Maury,
I understood Zimmer's point. But I think
On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 16:17 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
Notes below:
On 9/4/05, Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 11:15 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
snip
I have then written a RPCBroker call that attempt to pass back the
binary data. I think I am
On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 17:18 -0700, Jim Self wrote:
I agree. When will your solution be released as Open Source. Has it been
decided yet what
parts will NOT be released.
I am not able to give a date for that release, only that it has been
discussed, and we believe to have found a workable
On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 21:05 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
Anyway.
That is basically a longwinded way of saying I don't know the dates,
its 'above my pay-grade', but I do know that we are committed to doing
it, in a way that makes sense from day 1, and we are very much
interested in being
On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 23:59 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
Todd, I understand you perfectly.
The question is whether to wait for the release of Medsphere code
someday/eventually, or to work on something else now.
I believe it depends on your needs, and your timetables, workload, etc.
I
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 16:46 -0600, Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
The whole Imaging GUI is far more sophistication than is required. The key
parts to having a relatively simple substitute for simple document images is
to be able to scan and post the IDs and location of the image to the IMAGE
file
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 22:07 -0400, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
This appears to be a solution that is integrated into your CPRS replacement,
correct?
Yes.
--Todd
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On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 12:48 -0400, alric wrote:
What ever happened with getting CRPS running under CrossOver Office?
Not to be negative to that potential idea, but I know that delphi apps
are still very much unsupported running under wine. They just recently
(in the last cpl months) made it so
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 09:54 -0700, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
Delphi components are ultimately based on ActiveX/OLE which may be the
impediment to using them under Wine. Out of curiosity: Does anyone know
if the same problem occurs with VirtualPC (a commercial product)?
My understand is that
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 13:02 -0400, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
1.0,23.15 did not get fully debugged and until there is funding for the
Crossover Office folks to continue their work, things are on hold.
CPRS had to be modified to allow what was done to be done, and therefore both
a newer CPRS
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 13:31 -0400, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
The Crossover office folks would fix it to run on Wine were they to get the
funding. That was the plan, it just never got that far. They are eager to
work with us again if things work out and I hope they do as we had a great
time
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 14:00 -0400, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
Well, since it doesn't exist yet, it is moot, but when it does it will be
thoroughly tested and at that point, then it can be presented. It would be
the intention to pass Class I testing.
I can't think discussing something that you
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 13:56 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
Todd,
Had you been in Boston to see the progress and results we saw in the
very short period of time that the experts worked on this solution you
would probably have a different opinion...CPRS working under WINE will
be a viable
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 13:59 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
Perhaps this whole discussion is moot in the long run as the VA is
rewriting CPRS in Javawhere does that leave someone who decides or
decided to write a new version of CPRS??
Already done.
--Todd
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 14:18 -0400, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
Well when what you have is available as open source free, then it will not be
necessary to discuss other solutions.
As I said before, we are in the process of open-sourcing pieces of our
work. I have been involved in a decent
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 16:54 -0400, Mike Lieman wrote:
On 7/27/05, Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 13:31 -0400, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
The Crossover office folks would fix it to run on Wine were
they to get the
funding
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 17:12 -0400, Mike Lieman wrote:
On 7/27/05, Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've only seen ONE Desktop Linux deployment which worked
out. That
was in a very tightly controlled vertical application
environment
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 15:00 -0700, Jim Self wrote:
Todd Berman wrote:
As I said before, we are in the process of open-sourcing pieces of our
work. I have been involved in a decent amount of meetings over the last
couple of weeks that show real progress towards something
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 15:45 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
Sounds like M2Web...but I may be wrongit uses Apache..
J.
The difference is that our middle-ware publishes a SOAP API that can be
used by any SOAP aware client (And basically every language out there
has a SOAP library of
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:31 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
...is it correct to infer from this and your earlier post that you have
rewritten CPRS?
J.
Yes, it would be correct to infer that we have a crossplatform client
that provides the same feature-set as CPRS.
--Todd
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:25 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:31 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
...is it correct to infer from this and your earlier post that you have
rewritten CPRS?
J.
Yes, it would be correct to infer that we have a crossplatform
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 12:36 -0700, Tomlinson, Steven B wrote:
Just as a caution to anyone attempting to use CPRSChart/VistA in thsi manner
... all patient data as well as Access and Verify codes will be sent through
the Internet in clear-text. We wrestled with this problem for several months
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 14:22 -0700, Jim Self wrote:
I wonder, has anyone given serious thought to having a CPRS client connect to
the RPC
broker via HTTPS (HTTP + SSL)? That would seem to me to be the ideal solution
for
connecting internet accessible services.
That is basically (well, a
On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 13:20 -0700, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:
Have you ever considered what would happen if you tried to put a
dollar figure on the amount of effort that is expended right here on
this list in trying to make Vista work in a non-VA setting? That
effort is not free, and any
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