RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-09-04 Thread David Sommers
heat dissipation. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Leo Zimmer Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 1:41 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-09-02 Thread chuck5566
Bhaskar, The September LinuxFormat has a very favorable, but very short review of the Slax mini-distro: http://slax.linux-live.org There is also a MySlax Creator, which lets you add modules to a Live CD or install it to a USB drive: http://myslax.rabidhutch.co.uk Chuck On Aug 31,

Re: OS X? [WAS] [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-09-02 Thread chuck5566
I did have VistA running on Cache under Panther. I used a Cache.dat from Hardhats. I was also able to run CPRS and the Cache Cube on the same Powerbook running WinXP via Microsoft's Virtual PC 7. I haven't looked at it though, since I installed Tiger. (Widgets are all the rage now.)

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-09-02 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Thanx, Chuck. It does look promising. I'll look at it some more. -- Bhaskar On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 01:34 -0500, chuck5566 wrote: Bhaskar, The September LinuxFormat has a very favorable, but very short review of the Slax mini-distro: http://slax.linux-live.org There is also a

RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-09-02 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 7:14 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA The PowerPC (from IBM) is the hardware platform used for the Macintosh

RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-09-02 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 7:14 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA The PowerPC (from IBM) is the hardware platform used

RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-09-02 Thread John Leo Zimmer
However, the biggest volume of POWER architecture chips may not be Mac computers. I understand that the Nintendo Gamecube may use a POWER chip. Can someone confirm this? * IBM PowerPC, 486 MHz * ATI graphics * 40 MB of total RAM * 8 cm optical drive * (optional)

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-09-01 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:09 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA What else is commonly run

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-09-01 Thread rgaber
] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA The PowerPC (from IBM) is the hardware platform used for the Macintosh today. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli On Aug 31, 2005, at 10:54 PM

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-09-01 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Precisely. I was wondering whether porting GT.M to the PPC platform could benefit those running operating systems other than OS X. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That part I got, I use a PPC G5. It was the what else runs on the PPC that I was confused about, perhaps you were asking what other

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
This, I suppose, is a moment of frustration bubbling to the surface (on my part). === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] The most profound technologies are those that disappear. --Mark Weiser On Aug 30, 2005, at 10:29 PM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: I assume your basic goal is to come up

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Ismet -- Thanx for the comments (and your enthusiastic support of VistA). I agree that making .deb (or .rpm - since they are convertible) packages would have value, and I have thought about it. Here is what has held me back: once you have a running VistA system, from what folks like Cameron

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread Mike Lieman
On 8/30/05, K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Effective V4, Knoppix has expanded to over 3GB. Creating OpenVistA VivA releases based on Knoppix V4 would mean releases of over 3.5GB - they What about the Knoppix Light CD sized version? It's not out JUST YET, but they say REAL SOON, NOW...

RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:29 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA I assume your basic goal is to come up with something like a turn key

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Greg -- Thank you for your comments, as well as all the support you provide to members of this forum. Let me respond to your inputs: GT.M has so few dependencies that it runs on every current release of every major distribution of x86 GNU/Linux that I know of. It has been run on SuSE, Gentoo,

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
I have been waiting for a couple of months for the Knoppix light CD that is due out any day now. My left hand has a private bet with my right hand as to whether it will come out before VistA Office EHR. Yes, I could build on 3.9 for now. -- Bhaskar On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 09:06 -0500, Mike

OS X? [WAS] [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread Jason Essington
This is a little OT for this thread, but has anyone been successful getting OpenVistA running on OS X? I would be interested on hosting the server side components on OS X server, but GT.M doesn't appear to have an OS X version, and my first attempt at installing Cache on OS X (10.4)

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread Jason Essington
With Apple's pending architecture change from PPC to Intel, perhaps a GT.M version for OS X wouldn't be that different than from an i86 BSD version. We are already supporting several clinics in rural Wyoming, and are preparing a proposal to add OpenVista as an EMR solution for them.

RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread David Sommers
: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:46 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: K.S. Bhaskar Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA With Apple's pending architecture change from PPC to Intel, perhaps a GT.M version for OS X wouldn't be that different than from an i86

RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread David Sommers
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sommers Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:03 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA If you look for in the archives for GTM on OSX, we covered many of the same things already

[Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread Mark Dalton
I will take a look at the GT.MAcculturation0.3.iso (I am downloading it now). I just want to help make it work out of the box without any changes. For starting points ideally I think you would want to be able to run directly off the CD or a installed tar-ball, without any changes. - Paths are

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread Greg Woodhouse
It's not the Mac per se. Lately, I haven't been terrible sanguine about running Linux and am much more interested in running OS X myself, but that's a different issue from whether a business case could be made for running on the platform. Philosophically, I wish there were more emphasis on

RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread Greg Woodhouse
, 2005 1:25 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA It's not the Mac per se. Lately, I haven't been terrible sanguine about running Linux and am much more interested in running OS X myself, but that's a different

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Thanks for the list of live CDs, Mark. I'll look at them. Apropos your comments. It is not possible for paths to the database to be defined a priori, and this is prompted for, but everything else is indeed predefined. Your comments make me wonder whether you had a chance to try the OpenVistA

RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread Greg Woodhouse
I know that, but ruuning GT.M on OS X really isn't the point. For my own selfish reasons, I'd like to be able to run VistA on OS X (I just don't want to be forced into running Linux, and I do like my Mac), but my basic point was broader: Philosophically, I just don't see making VistA available on

RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread David Sommers
, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:25 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA It's

RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sommers Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:49 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA A business reason has to exist for any company to spend money and resources

RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread David Sommers
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 3:13 PM To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net' Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA FreeBSD already has a Linux compatible mode

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread Jim Self
Bhaskar wrote: Please provide some guidance about future releases of OpenVistA VivA. Bhaskar, Thanks for providing your VivA disk images. I think most of us first learned about live Linux CD's from them. Seeing how they change and get outdated so quickly, particularly the desktop applications,

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread James Gray
] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA I know that, but ruuning GT.M on OS X really isn't the point. For my own selfish reasons, I'd like to be able to run VistA on OS X (I just don't want to be forced into running Linux, and I do like my Mac), but my basic point was broader: Philosophically, I just

RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread Roy Gaber
-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA Whether or not Apple extends that to their platform on the x86 switchover is the statement. If they don't, someone else might. And I'm just more familiar with Solaris' efforts than FreeBSD (even

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Or, perhaps more to the point: the compiler back end clearly does depend on the ABI, but to what degree does it otherwise depend on the OS, rather than the architecture. At a minimum, the ISA will be the same, regardless of whether you run Linux, Windows, or OS X. === Gregory Woodhouse

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
What else is commonly run on the PowerPC? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nothing is as powerful than an idea whose time has come. -- Victor Hugo On Aug 31, 2005, at 8:41 PM, Roy Gaber wrote: We must keep in mind that the installed base of non x86 systems will be supported for

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-31 Thread LD \Gus\ Landis
AIX On 8/31/05, Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What else is commonly run on the PowerPC? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nothing is as powerful than an idea whose time has come. -- Victor Hugo On Aug 31, 2005, at 8:41 PM, Roy Gaber wrote: We must keep in

[Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-30 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Please provide some guidance about future releases of OpenVistA VivA. I have thus far used Knoppix (http://knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html) as the basis for OpenVistA VivA FOIA Gold releases, and Morphix (http://morphix.org) as the basis for OpenVistA VivA releases. The former releases are

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-30 Thread Suchi Pande
K.S. Bhaskar wrote: Please provide some guidance about future releases of OpenVistA VivA. At the other extreme, is Damn Small Linux (http://damnsmalllinux.org). Sans VistA, this distribution is small enough to fit onto a business card sized CD. With VistA, the download would be around 220MB.

RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-30 Thread David Sommers
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suchi Pande Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:45 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA K.S. Bhaskar wrote: Please provide some guidance about future releases of OpenVistA VivA

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-30 Thread Ismet Kursunoglu
Much thanks goes to you Bhaskar for all of your support in maintaining these releases. Would it be possible to create .deb packages of GT.M/OpenVistA? It would be so nice to automate and manage updates and installations on a running Debian server with dpkg or apt-get. Perhaps something such

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-30 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
I assume your basic goal is to come up with something like a turn key solution. Is that a fair assumption? Going back to the network effect message, I don't know that marrying your solution to Debian, Knoppix, Red Hat, or what have you is the right way to go. It will be easier to get user

RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-30 Thread David Sommers
? /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:29 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point