Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Eli Allen
Ever hear of the disaster mitigation effort "Project Impact" from FEMA to build a disaster resistant community? Did quite well, for example it helped prevent major damage in the earthquake in the Puget Sound area do to the retrofitting done. Plus it only had a $20 million nation wide budget.

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread FORC5
still would be impossible even if one did all they could At 04:53 PM 8/31/2005, Al Poked the stick with: >FORC5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> that would be a good trick >> >> At 02:15 PM 8/31/2005, Al Poked the stick with: >> >I say, government’s job was >> >to prevent catastrophes like Katrin

RE: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina - Governement Plan to stop Hurricanes

2005-08-31 Thread FORC5
I do remember that project couldn't remember exactly when it was fp At 06:45 PM 8/31/2005, Carroll Kong Poked the stick with: Actually it is very funny someone should mention this.  The government DID have a department designed to stop hurricanes, called Project Stormfury. They were using airplan

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread jeff.lane
Strange you should mention total evacuation and desertion of the city. I was thinking that may be the only option, even after it is pumped out. No one knows what has happened to the ground structure; it may not be livable again and maybe it would just be best to let the Gulf have it's land back.

RE: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Carroll Kong
It's funny you should mention this as well. I just recovered from my computer woes. See, I had a RAID1 hardware mirror with 3Ware and I detected what seemed to be a harddisk failure. No problem, I should have high availability and tolerant this fault nicely. So, how come I had to end up ripping

RE: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina - Governement Plan to stop Hurricanes

2005-08-31 Thread Carroll Kong
Actually it is very funny someone should mention this. The government DID have a department designed to stop hurricanes, called Project Stormfury. They were using airplanes equipped with certain chemicals (silver iodide?) to help reduce the winds of a hurricane. ... How come no one heard of them

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 08:48 PM 8/31/2005, jeff.lane typed: Another good trick Didn't you know the federal gov't is suppose to build a sea wall all along the Gulf & Atlantic coast without raising our taxes that can withstand the worst case scenario hurricane. I don't know what

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 05:15 PM 8/31/2005, Al typed: We've been aware of New Orleans' inevitable horror for decades, and absolutely nothing sufficient was done about it. The levees, now broken and filling the city, were supposedly designed to protect against a Category Three hurricane, yet Katrina was only a Two wh

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Al
one we should have spent the 400 billion on. "jeff.lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another good trick > > - Original Message - > From: "Al" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "The Hardware List" > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 4:53 PM > Subject: Re: [H

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread jeff.lane
Another good trick - Original Message - From: "Al" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina FORC5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: that would be a good trick

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread jeff.lane
Very good, Brian. I, too, am getting very tired of these ranting agendas. We have a lot of people out there that are dying or will be if help does not get there. This include the morons that stayed for the parties, surfing, jet skiing, etc. Nonetheless they need help, not agendas. Jeff -

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 07:53 PM 8/31/2005, Al typed: Not to prevent hurricanes, but to prevent the depth of the disaster caused by it. The casinos in MS were supposedly designed for level 5 hurricane & look what happened to them. --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805

[H] Firefox Extensions

2005-08-31 Thread Brian Weeden
I love Firefox but have one thing that bugs me - everytime I reinstall it or install it on a new computer I have to go out and re-download all my extensions. Is there a way to package all the ones I use together and have Firefox install them all at once from my local system? -- Brian

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Al
FORC5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that would be a good trick > > At 02:15 PM 8/31/2005, Al Poked the stick with: > >I say, government’s job was > >to prevent catastrophes like Katrina, Not to prevent hurricanes, but to prevent the depth of the disaster caused by it. Al

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread FORC5
that would be a good trick At 02:15 PM 8/31/2005, Al Poked the stick with: I say, government’s job was to prevent catastrophes like Katrina, -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Free men do not ask permission to bear  arms

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Al
"Myrna Rademacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Trying to place blame for such a disaster certainly doesn't help > the victims of this horrible natural event. But then it's not supposed to. It's supposed to create an awareness of our government spending 400 billion creating a war as a cover for b

RE: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Myrna Rademacher
I think we should forget the politics and do as Jim did -- give what we can to the Red Cross or other aid societies to help those so devastated by Katrina. Trying to place blame for such a disaster certainly doesn't help the victims of this horrible natural event. Myrna J. Rademacher, MCSE, MCSA,

RE: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Mike
er, money, nothing. We are going to have refuge > camps down there for a while. DO WHAT YOU CAN ASAP. __ NOD32 1.1207 (20050831) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread CW
It should be noted, though, that there were slightly over $38B worth of Army Corp. Engineer projects for upstream alleviation, spilloff grounds, and levee design that were openly opposed since 1997 by the National Wildlife Fund, PETA, River Conservation Forum, and the World Wildlife Fund (on the

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Brian Weeden
On 8/31/05, Eli Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I do agree that living below sea level like that is a bad idea this > was preventable. There was a major levee construction project whose funding > was cut by Bush (~$250 million) If Bush didn't cut the funding the levees > wouldn't have br

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Eli Allen
While I do agree that living below sea level like that is a bad idea this was preventable. There was a major levee construction project whose funding was cut by Bush (~$250 million) If Bush didn't cut the funding the levees wouldn't have broke so easily like they did. http://www.editorandpub

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Al
"Gary VanderMolen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only certainty is that Mother Nature is unpredictable. How much > money should we throw at this bottomless pit? If you design levees > for a Cat 3, next time it will be a Cat 4 hurricane. People should not > live below sea level when they are

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Gary VanderMolen
It's so American. Don't teach birth control, fight abortion. Don't prepare for mathematical certainty, worship the melodrama of numerically insufficient rescues. The only certainty is that Mother Nature is unpredictable. How much money should we throw at this bottomless pit? If you design leve

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Al
"Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And the problem > is, there is so much poverty in New Orleans, and the structural design of > the city is still a mess.. it's going to be a very messy and difficult work > through. President Bush says that now that the catastrophe has hit, government s

RE: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Chris Reeves
Last Thursday, my oldest brother was relocated and put in charge of several thousand national guard to help handle the operation. The reality is, this will get worse before it gets better.. much, much worse. And the problem is, there is so much poverty in New Orleans, and the structural design of

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Ben Ruset
Not to sound heartless, but people are not going to be totally reliant on donations to get by. There will be a ton of federal aid, insurance money, etc. going to these people. There will be no refugee camps. People will be relocated to other cities. We don't live in a 3rd world country, and ha

[H] Sony VID-P300

2005-08-31 Thread James Boswell
Anyone familiar with this piece of gear?, a client has just acquired one and wants me to get it up and running for them, and my google fu skills aren't helping me any. http://www.martin-dawes.com/vc/vcperipherals/sonyvidp300.htm <- one of those. Anybody? -_-_ James Boswell [EMAIL PROT

Re: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Henrik Tived
My heart goes out to you, who are affected by Katrina. We saw what the tsunami did to our neighbouring country last Xmas. Henrik A Dane Down Under - Original Message - From: "Jim Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 6:22 PM Subject: [H] It's bad, really b

RE: [H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Mike
I did the same last night. We live just south of Lafayette, so we watched Katrina very closely, prepared to leave if it came this way. These things are horrible to sit through. Lili came through 3 years ago but weakened just before landfall, but the damage in this area was extensive, although not

[H] It's bad, really bad - Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Jim Edwards
We have a situation where we are going to have American refuges. The people of the Gulf needs help, lots and lots of help. If you haven't yet, consider donating to the Red Cross. I don't usually (because of $$ excuses) but damn, my countrymen are in a world of hurt in gumbo land. But I can't sit