Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-31 Thread j maccraw
LOL, DRM = Does it Really Matter? Piracy- what software companies racking in dough use to illustrate they are really broke and need to charge more for less. Want to stop commercial pirates from making money while increasing your legit sales? Remove DRM, EULA restrictions, and have the discs

Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-31 Thread j maccraw
So true! Piracy was rampant in the 80's among those in the know and it didn't kill anyone's profits! I had a RAM slot die in my Dell C840 going cross country last summer, halving my total RAM from 1GB to 512MB. Had to stop in Montana cell phone in for re-activation or I could not log in to

Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-31 Thread j maccraw
Right, locking yourself into what Job's considers worth hardware. No thanks, I only want the OS. Joe User wrote: Hello FORC5, Friday, March 30, 2007, 8:55:39 AM, you wrote: I say the 70's and 80's was good for business and current scheme is not. ( greed ) fp I say, doing business with

Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-30 Thread Hayes Elkins
From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy? Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:25:01 -0700 piracy is a

Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-30 Thread FORC5
didn't seem to hurt profits much. :-} current anti piracy can be a pain. There is something terribly wrong when one wants to change a hard drive or video card ( in Vista )( I had to reactivate Vista when I stretched a 200gb partition to 250.) and have to call mother to ask permission.

Re[2]: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-30 Thread Joe User
Hello FORC5, Friday, March 30, 2007, 8:55:39 AM, you wrote: I say the 70's and 80's was good for business and current scheme is not. ( greed ) fp I say, doing business with MS is ridiculous anymore. That's why I switched to Apple. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-30 Thread Scott Sipe
I completely, 100% agree that things like activation are a complete pain the butt... it's even worse with Quark software--even before activation (early 90s), they made you type in at least 3 20 digit/ letter combos to use the software... annoying as heck. But at the same time, you say the

Re[2]: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-30 Thread FORC5
thinking seriously about that myself ( or finally playing with Linux) but I still have customers fp At 09:43 AM 3/30/2007, Joe User Poked the stick with: Hello FORC5, Friday, March 30, 2007, 8:55:39 AM, you wrote: I say the 70's and 80's was good for business and current scheme is not. (

Re[2]: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-30 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 01:43 PM 30/03/2007, Joe User wrote: I say, doing business with MS is ridiculous anymore. That's why I switched to Apple. I looked into Apple, and their dealer agreement is far more onerous than Microsoft's and there are far fewer people out there buying Apple (at least in my market.)

Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-30 Thread FORC5
I guess bottom line it is their sandbox after all :-| I only get on this binge when I do updates on a legal machine and it want to install WGA or I have to go thru what I am going thru now with having to call. The time a couple of weeks ago when the system was down I would call ( takes awhile

Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-30 Thread Scott Sipe
I've thankfully only had to call the activation number once, and it was a pain in the butt. The problem was ultimately resolved no questions asked but it took forever to get to an operator. and my usual trick of just repeating operator operator operator at the voice prompts didn't seem to

Re[3]: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-30 Thread Joe User
Hello Thane, Friday, March 30, 2007, 10:20:17 AM, you wrote: I looked into Apple, and their dealer agreement is far more onerous than Microsoft's and there are far fewer people out there buying Apple (at least in my market.) I've never had a problem with MS. Apple isn't as popular, that's

Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-30 Thread Hayes Elkins
From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy? Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:55:39 -0700 didn't seem to hurt profits much. :-}

Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-30 Thread Gordon Gekko
From: Scott Sipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy? Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:48:25 -0400 I completely, 100% agree that

Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-30 Thread FORC5
no way to stop ppl from stealing ( or doing drugs, would we have a drug problem if nobody bought the crap ) I am bugged about having to prove over and over I am legit when it does not stop the thiefs.. That's all. Hell even Leupold scopes are being counterfeited in China. fp tallyho At 10:57

[H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-29 Thread chuck
This is for conversation, only. We know that Microsoft is far too greedy for their own good. I believe my ideas would pour more money into Microsoft than hackable Windows being sold pours in. Can there be a hardware solution? Not with firmware that can be flashed such as the BIOS on

RE: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-29 Thread Hayes Elkins
It's called windows embedded... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy? Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007

Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?

2007-03-29 Thread FORC5
piracy is a farce create by BG who knows how to. Want to stop piracy, allow ppl to own what they buy and install it as many time as they want. problem over. :-! MS gets most of their $$$ from the big manufacturers anyway. JMO fp At 02:46 PM 3/29/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poked the stick with: