Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-17 Thread mark.dodge
suppressor / power filter You REALLY believe that, as far as cabling? Again, you might just be a millionaire! Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:15:00 -0700 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter pretty much ANYTHING is better then Radio Shack

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-17 Thread mark.dodge
Of Brian Weeden Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter Don't know. Normally I would happen to agree with you if we were talking about Monster cables. Just not sure if that same logic applies to the rest

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-11 Thread Hayes Elkins
printers on the circuit). Just be mindful of any equipment that needs a 20amp run instead of 15. Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:42:10 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter Looking for what the list uses to protect their computers

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-11 Thread Brian Weeden
] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter Looking for what the list uses to protect their computers / home theater equipment. I'm a EE by training so you don't need to educate me on the benefits of clean power, I'm just looking for advice on what products

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-11 Thread Hayes Elkins
they are a future millionaire. Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:08:02 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter I do agree with you that there is a large element of snake oil with power protection and conditioning but there is also

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-11 Thread FORC5
pretty much ANYTHING is better then Radio Shack CRAP. You had your stroke yet, you sure do rant :-D fp At 12:08 PM 3/11/2008, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with: So next time a snooty salesman tries to sell you the virtue of a $100 Monster 1000 HDMI cable vs. a cheaper line, or that a $2000 3'

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-11 Thread Hayes Elkins
You REALLY believe that, as far as cabling? Again, you might just be a millionaire! Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:15:00 -0700 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter pretty much ANYTHING is better then Radio Shack CRAP. You had

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-11 Thread Brian Weeden
:15:00 -0700 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter pretty much ANYTHING is better then Radio Shack CRAP. You had your stroke yet, you sure do rant :-D fp At 12:08 PM 3/11/2008, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with: So next time

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-11 Thread Winterlight
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You REALLY believe that, as far as cabling? Again, you might just be a millionaire! Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:15:00 -0700 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter pretty much ANYTHING is better then Radio

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-11 Thread Jeff Lane
with it. Jeff 'You know that your landing gear is up and locked when it takes full power to taxi to the terminal.' Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter pretty much ANYTHING is better then Radio Shack CRAP

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-11 Thread j maccraw
Not being an EE could not argue for or against Monster except on wires or interconnects as they tend to call them which I also think are snake oil unless maybe your talking 1000's of feet or outside runs, still My rule of surge protectors is buy only ones that come with insurance like the

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-11 Thread DHSinclair
that, as far as cabling? Again, you might just be a millionaire! Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:15:00 -0700 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter pretty much ANYTHING is better then Radio Shack CRAP. You had your stroke yet, you

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-11 Thread DHSinclair
] Subject: Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter pretty much ANYTHING is better then Radio Shack CRAP. You had your stroke yet, you sure do rant :-D fp At 12:08 PM 3/11/2008, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with: So next time a snooty salesman tries to sell you the virtue of a $100 Monster 1000

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-11 Thread Gary VanderMolen
As a EE myself, I tend to agree with your EE friend. :-) I use cheap 16-gauge lamp cord to connect my speakers. Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail) -- From: Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] A good friend of mine is a EE who works for Micron. He is

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-11 Thread Hayes Elkins
.htm Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:40:35 -0400 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter Brian, Ignore my last reply. Hayes, Just kidding! (sort of) Winterlight, All my life I've waited for an objective proof of this. Not sure your

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-11 Thread W. D.
At 20:33 3/10/2008, DHSinclair wrote: Brian, Look at Best Power or APC. Most else is still trying to get there. Best, Duncan I used APCs until a unit kept frying motherboards. Best Power doesn't exist anymore, but its sucessor does--PowerWare: http://www.PowerWare.com/ I use 2 of these:

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-11 Thread DHSinclair
your ears, especially after smoking a bit of the bag's contents - http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:40:35 -0400 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter Brian, Ignore my last reply. Hayes

[H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-10 Thread Brian Weeden
Looking for what the list uses to protect their computers / home theater equipment. I'm a EE by training so you don't need to educate me on the benefits of clean power, I'm just looking for advice on what products people have used that are good and those that are crap. It would be protecting my

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-10 Thread Eli Allen
Isn't Monster by definition overpriced and not worth it? Eli -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:42 PM To: hwg Subject: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter Looking for what the list uses to protect

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-10 Thread Brian Weeden
Monster by definition overpriced and not worth it? Eli -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:42 PM To: hwg Subject: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter Looking for what the list uses to protect

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-10 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, Look at Best Power or APC. Most else is still trying to get there. Best, Duncan At 20:42 03/10/2008 -0400, you wrote: Looking for what the list uses to protect their computers / home theater equipment. I'm a EE by training so you don't need to educate me on the benefits of clean power,

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-10 Thread Brian Weeden
Thanks. I've used APC UPS' before and I've been happy with them. I like the C3 surge protector. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 9:33 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, Look at Best Power or APC. Most else is still trying

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-10 Thread Bobby Heid
one Belkin UPS that has power conditioning that I have on my HDTV (got a really good deal on it). Bobby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:42 PM To: hwg Subject: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-10 Thread Rick Glazier
My very first Computer years ago (a Dell -- before I became a builder), suffered from all sorts of problems, and LOADS of in warranty repairs. (Ever hear of anyone getting 5 MBs out of them for the same machine...?) (I had the better service contract from the better division of the company.) The

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-10 Thread JRS
I use a 1200 watt APC Smart UPS for my computer gear. True sine wave output. :) Looking for what the list uses to protect their computers / home theater equipment. I'm a EE by training so you don't need to educate me on the benefits of clean power, I'm just looking for advice on what

Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter

2008-03-10 Thread Bill Cohane
At 00:53 03/11/08, JRS wrote: I use a 1200 watt APC Smart UPS for my computer gear. True sine wave output. :) Three computers here (each with 10 internal SCSI drives)...three APC SmartUPS 1500 (computer, external drives, monitor for each UPS). Plus one SmartUPS 1000 for the little stuff: