It seems that all roads lead back to the discussion of licensing and
philosophy. Even that has degenerated into name calling which is
unhelpful for building a harmonious and inclusive community.
While I understand perfectly that unifying the existing efforts in
J2SE-space is a goal of Harmony, I
Hi,
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 05:52 -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
What do you have to negotiate? We want to define an interface for
the VM and Class library that is 100% usable by anyone and everyone.
I always imagined that we'd define the interface, and then each do an
independent
Hi,
On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 11:03 +1000, Peter Donald wrote:
For Harmony we can lead by example. We are starting here with a clean
slate. Lets not by default adopt a policy that would prevent adoption of
the code by most of the existing projects. I started this effort
together with the
Mark Wielaard wrote:
is like putting up a huge
sign: Proprietary software hoarders welcome! Long haired freaky GNU
people stay out!. Which isn't fun since my best friends are long haired
freaky GNU people :)
This is puting it in terms I understand ;-)
.V
On 15-07-2005 08:40, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For code samples, we want to take them in via JIRA, for tracking
reasons. Now, given that we're rather attached to the Apache License
here at the ASF, I'm not sure we wish to tangle with getting dual
licenses for contributions
:45 PM
To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [legal] Mailing list policy
On 15-07-2005 08:40, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For code samples, we want to take them in via JIRA, for tracking
reasons. Now, given that we're rather attached to the Apache License
here
On Jul 13, 2005, at 2:24 PM, Mark Wielaard wrote:
Hi,
Most of this seems common sense. And I am a bit surprised people feel
that it needs to be spelled out. But it is probably good to make the
intentions completely clear even for a public list.
Just one little nitpick.
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at
Mark Wielaard wrote:
But shouldn't this go both ways - should not anything contributed to any
of those projects be able to be shared with Harmony? AFAIK many of the
contributors make a conscious decision about which licenses they will or
will not contribute their work under.
We can clearly
I'm focused on bringing our legal framework issues to conclusion. (I
have a long flight today, so expect to see something COB today...)
However, there's an issue that's been brought to my attention from
several people, and I wish propose that we explicitly state our
mailing list policies,
I agree with doing this. Ideally it is something that would appear on
the Foundation website, i.e. not just for Project Harmony, but making it
a clear policy is certainly the right thing to do.
FWIW the IETF do an equivalent thing (http://www.ietf.org/maillist.html)
and even have it written on a
On Jul 13, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Tim Ellison wrote:
I agree with doing this. Ideally it is something that would appear on
the Foundation website, i.e. not just for Project Harmony, but
making it
a clear policy is certainly the right thing to do.
Yes - I'm going to help get an ASF-wide
NOT A CONTRIBUTION
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
I propose the following is added to the top of the mailing list page on
the site (I've added and published, currently marked as proposed) and
included in the welcome message for each subscriber, and posted once a
month to all lists as part of a
On Jul 13, 2005, at 1:32 PM, Leo Simons wrote:
NOT A CONTRIBUTION
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
I propose the following is added to the top of the mailing list
page on
the site (I've added and published, currently marked as proposed)
and
included in the welcome message for each subscriber,
But i would say these are few things that are though to common to all of us
but it is better to be arranged that if some novice are coming then they can
not damage our intentions and put us into some legal issues.
thnx again geir
On 7/13/05, Mark Wielaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
NOT A CONTRIBUTION*
Mark Wielaard wrote:
Just one little nitpick.
Heh.
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 10:22 -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
The terms and conditions that apply to
your Contributions are defined by either a contributor license
agreement (CLA) signed by you and/or your employer
Hi,
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 21:50 +0200, Leo Simons wrote:
NOT A CONTRIBUTION*
LIKEWISE.
Mark Wielaard wrote:
Just one little nitpick.
Heh.
Could we not use the Apache License, Version 2.0. But state something
like are in the public domain. (Or use APL/GPL-dual license, LGPL,
:23 PM
To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: [legal] Mailing list policy
I'm focused on bringing our legal framework issues to conclusion. (I
have a long flight today, so expect to see something COB today...)
However, there's an issue that's been brought to my attention from
several
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