Re: [Hornlist] L.A. Phil concert-ROS

2003-11-04 Thread Graeme Evans
The symphony no 3 is Die Schottische NOT the Italian!!! This is a fairly heavy blow, and one wants to be able to play nice and loud (in A ) at the end. It is a bit of help to have an assistant here. Actually, in Beethoven 8, to play the Trio of the 3rd movement with real delicacy, I find it helps

[Hornlist] RE: F horn/Bb horn

2003-11-04 Thread Välimäki
I would like to ask some questions: 1. Is it easier for the young player to start with Bb-horn, or is it just easier for the teacher´s ears? There are so many good teachers who like to talk about music and they don´t listen scales and transpositions because it get´s quite boring. The young

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart 1

2003-11-04 Thread Chris Tedesco
Sorry, I didn't mention that I use alternate fingers galore on the B-side to eliminate almost all cross fingerings. I use an alternate fingering of T2 and T1 for the ending section. Admittedly, at first it sounded terrible, but with a little elbow grease, it sounds no different from playing it

RE: [Hornlist] RE: F horn/Bb horn

2003-11-04 Thread Hans Pizka
There could not be a better advocate for playing cultivating the real-F-Horn-sound than your letter. Bravo, bravo ! And thanks. Do you know the Viennese study Plan on my Web Site ? If not, have a look and explore also my pages about the Viennese Horn Players, including many video clips sound

Re: [Hornlist] RE: F horn/Bb horn beginner's test

2003-11-04 Thread Mark Louttit
Well Scott you will remember that the famous horn teacher and virtuoso Eric Von Schmutzig invented a 19 valve horn with an electric spit valve (his term not mine). This was a breakthrough in electric motorized horn development. Had he lived, I am sure he would have gotten there. Schmutzig, no

RE: [Hornlist] Cut Bell Conversions

2003-11-04 Thread Robert Osmun
While I bow to no one in my respect for Han's knowledge and artistry, I have to respectfully disagree on this one. Converting the horn to screw bell will extend the useful life of the instrument. The ring strengthens the bell at the weakest point. In addition, when converting the bell the

Re: [Hornlist] Cut Bell Conversions

2003-11-04 Thread CORNO911
Hi Bob, Just read your post about Geyer and how he cut bells. When I was with him, I watched him actually crush the entire end of the round tail (after he had cut it)into a diameter about about 1 smaller than it originally was to fit the ring over it . I sort of winced when I watch him and

[Hornlist] Stolen Horn

2003-11-04 Thread John Mason
Dwight Purvis, horn instructor and director of bands at the University of Virginia, has asked me to post this notice: Please be on the lookout for a Conn 8D, sn M56642, that was stolen in Charlottesville, Virginia, on the weekend of 1-2 November, 2003. The horn is in very good condition, with

Re: [Hornlist] Stolen Horn

2003-11-04 Thread Alan Cole
Well, if the Honor System is still in effect, still followed, at least we know the thief is not a student at U.Va. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur U.Va. (College Of Arts Sciences) 1964 ~~ At 08:42 AM 11/4/2003 -0800, you wrote: Dwight Purvis, horn instructor and

Re: [Hornlist] Cut Bell Conversions

2003-11-04 Thread Alexandre Grand-Clement
Blackbort wrote: Hello All: I have a wonderful 50 year old Alexander 103 with a bell that is so thin it wrinkles when you look at it wrong. I think converting the bell to detachable will help a lot. I'm in Canada and was hoping to find a shop that has experience with converting bells in

RE: [Hornlist] Cut Bell Conversions

2003-11-04 Thread Hans Pizka
Yeah: yeah, Bob, this is the complicate tour, but just fort he real masters of the craft. They can do it !! But this old Alex in question, is - as far as I understood - extremely thin in the whole bell flare section, not just at the holding points. Alex had very thin bells then anyway. These bells

RE: [Hornlist] Cut Bell Conversions

2003-11-04 Thread Hans Pizka
Very wise, Paul. The other way is more costly (demounting remounting, soldering the receiver cutting then perfectly) but safe. Folding the end of the tail weakens this part of the horn, a part which should be extremely strong to absorb the twist, when the screw bell is demounted, at least

[Hornlist] Marching Band Again (sigh......)

2003-11-04 Thread Wilbert Kimple
Please pardon the double posting. Well gang, South Carolina has hit a new low in free public education. From the Greenville News, Greenville, SC November 4, 3002. The entire music budget for Blue Ridge High School, Choir and Band, as given by state funds and the local school board is

[Hornlist] Kid needs teaching

2003-11-04 Thread Herbert Foster
I have a high school kid in my community band horn section who plays with a trumpet embouchure and sounds awful: loud and shrill. I have advised him to take lessons, but he is one of these over-commited kids. He respects me and will take advice and has some talent. I am not trained as a horn

[Hornlist] RE: Stolen Horn

2003-11-04 Thread Hurricane Chinooks
If anyone has a lost or stolen brass instrument that they want listed on the lost or stolen instrument site at http://www.cornetconnection.com/lost.htm, please contact me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED], with lost instrument in the subject line. I will get them posted right away. Joyce date:

[Hornlist] Re: Kid needs teaching

2003-11-04 Thread Ted Durant
Herb Foster wrote: I have a high school kid in my community band horn section who plays with a trumpet embouchure and sounds awful: loud and shrill...How can I help him without messing him up? How about... give him a copy of Farkas' book and a recording of Dennis Brain and invite him over

RE: [Hornlist] Cut Bell Conversions

2003-11-04 Thread Robert Osmun
Closet Bob Osmun -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Goldberg Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:50 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Cut Bell Conversions On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Hans Pizka wrote: better leave the horn

[Hornlist] Berlin Brandenburg 1 in 1968

2003-11-04 Thread phirsch
Anyone have any authoritative information on the identity of the horns playing a Berlin Philharmonic live performance of Brandenburg concerto no. 1? Herbert von Karajan conducts this performance that took place and was recorded at the Salzburg festival on August 16, 1968. Good horn playing, at

[Hornlist] News flash

2003-11-04 Thread HornCabbage
Wilbert gave us the following news flash: From the Greenville News, Greenville, SC November 4, 3002. The entire music budget for Blue Ridge High School, Choir and Band, as given by state funds and the local school board is $5,389. The rest of the $60,000 Band Budget comes from a student

[Hornlist] RE: Cut bell conversions

2003-11-04 Thread HornCabbage
Hans P offered better leave the horn alone, put it on the wall or in the shrank, use it for practising at home occasionally, David G wondered in the *shrank* ??? What's a shrank? Help! ** David, please forgive Hans if he did not offer an idiomatic translation. He of course meant

[Hornlist] shrank

2003-11-04 Thread giovanniarcangeli
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Re: [Hornlist] Kid needs teaching

2003-11-04 Thread Paul Mansur
I suggest working with his embouchure a bit first. Square things up and get support of the rim on the lower lip; keep the upper lip more relaxed. Make sure he has a formant 'M shape. Second, work with the air stream and the buzz or basic easy sound. Get him to slow the air stream

[Hornlist] Re: Stolen Horn

2003-11-04 Thread John Mason
Alan writes, cavalierly: Well, if the Honor System is still in effect, still followed, at least we know the thief is not a student at UVA. The Honor System is alive and reasonably well, Alan. I can say for sure that my students are more honorable than your average mutual fund manager. A lot

[Hornlist] Mozart Four Horn Concertos and Concert Rondo

2003-11-04 Thread Andy Harris
Hey all, Could someone supply me with the editor/arranger of the Schirmer Edition of the Mozart Horn Concertos and Concert Rondo? There is no attribution on either the horn part or the piano part. Thanks for the info, Charles Harris ___ post:

[Hornlist] Horn Literature . . .

2003-11-04 Thread CorEnFa8D
Hello all, a question for you . . . I am putting together a list (more of a manual!) of horn literature (etudes and solos) that every student should know up through the college level. I wondered if anyone had any favorites, or methods that are obscure or not 'typical'. I would even

[Hornlist] NHR - shrank

2003-11-04 Thread David Goldberg
Thanks to all for the translation(s) of 'shrank'. Speaking of closets, check out: http://www.cpcug.org/user/nealg/unrn/oft/routines/cc.html Play the wav file link at the top of the page. Some of you will remember the moment. { David Goldberg: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } { Math

RE: [Hornlist] Cut Bell Conversions

2003-11-04 Thread Hans Pizka
A bit thinking, what you would do with an old horn you stop using, had helped you finding the translation, but it could have come from shrink - shrank - shrunk also. - Didn´t you adopt a lot of lehnwords (translt: loaned words) in your language over the last few years ?

RE: [Hornlist] Kid needs teaching

2003-11-04 Thread Hans Pizka
Trumpet embouchure is not bad, i fit is a real trumpet embouchure. It could can be of great advantage, if it is meant as playing straight into the instrument, holding it up also. The tone can be very clear. But the lip opening must be appropriate. This is the dilemma for the noise making kids in

[Hornlist] Horn w/brass or w/wwquintet quintet feature

2003-11-04 Thread Robert Dickow
Can anybody suggest a good piece for 'featured horn' with horn in woodwind quintet or horn in brass quintet? I have a couple (such as the Mozart Quintet) but need more suggestions. It is for one of my students, and I have run out of ideas. (Must be the weather... ;) Bob Dickow Hampton School

[Hornlist] Gestopftmitscheist horn teachers and family tree

2003-11-04 Thread HORNTRASH
Mark Determinator L. wrote: Schmutzig, no doubt was the teacher of the famous Professor Gestopftmitscheisst. NOW, I am having the mostestest of crapulations over this one because it is just not true, NOT TRUE, NO WAY, JOSE, FALSE, FALSER, FALSESTEST, FALSESTESTEST and also a lying

Re: [Hornlist] Gestopftmitscheist horn teachers and family tree

2003-11-04 Thread Fred Baucom
One must hope that the Professor's teachers were never all in the house for dinner at the same timeimagine the confusion: Otto, pass me the sauerkraut, por favor, or, Franz, that last snitzel is minen...Go practice your Kopprasch!. No wonder the Prof seems a bit muddled sometimes.

Re: [Hornlist] Horn w/brass or w/wwquintet quintet feature

2003-11-04 Thread Bob Gibson
Bob; There is a piece by Florent Schmitt named Lied et Scherzo for Solo Horn w: Piccolo Flute Oboe English Horn 2 Clar. in Bb Horn 2 Bassoons Its a little larger than a woodwind quintet but the piece is a real nice number for solo horn and double woodwind quintet. Bob Gibson - Original

[Hornlist] Re: Cut bell conversions

2003-11-04 Thread MUMFORDHornworks
In a message dated 11/4/03 1:00:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, Hans Pizka writes: Yeah: yeah, Bob, this is the complicate tour, but just fort he real masters of the craft. They can do it !! But this old Alex in question, is - as far as I understood - extremely thin in the whole bell flare

Re: [Hornlist] Marching Band Again (sigh......)

2003-11-04 Thread Christopher Bonner
Ughhh. Do not get me started on marching band. We have bands in Florida that charge students close to $1,000 to be a member of the band. All this money spent of choreographers, and show designers, and marching staff, and dance staff. The shame of it is, these kids would not know a Mozart

[Hornlist] Do you know?

2003-11-04 Thread giovanniarcangeli
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