Re: [Hornlist] Fingering Question

2005-05-10 Thread Tony Crosse
Steve, On the Bb Horn have you tried 12 2 12 At speed any untunefulness on the Ab would hardly be noticed TC from Oz - Original Message - From: "John Kowalchuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Horn List" Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 2:30 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Fi

RE: [Hornlist] Fingering Question [Trill Fingerings]

2005-05-08 Thread Loren
Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Fingering Question [Trill Fingerings] At 5:25 AM -0700 5/8/05, Herbert Foster wrote: >In spite of what some say about "false" fingerings, you sometimes need to do >what works. Until your fingers get fast enough, use the T3-T23-T3. The >downs

Re: [Hornlist] Fingering Question [Trill Fingerings]

2005-05-08 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 5:25 AM -0700 5/8/05, Herbert Foster wrote: >In spite of what some say about "false" fingerings, you sometimes need to do >what works. Until your fingers get fast enough, use the T3-T23-T3. The >downside >is that you have to take the time during practice to learn the alternate >fingerings for e

Re: [Hornlist] Fingering Question

2005-05-08 Thread Herbert Foster
In spite of what some say about "false" fingerings, you sometimes need to do what works. Until your fingers get fast enough, use the T3-T23-T3. The downside is that you have to take the time during practice to learn the alternate fingerings for each passage that requires it. In a piece I'm playing

Re: [Hornlist] Fingering Question

2005-05-07 Thread G
In a message dated 5/7/2005 11:47:27 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] yscomputer.com writes: www.kbnj.com/music/Horn_Fingering_Question.pdf Hi, My answer to the above fingering problem: A = T12 G# = T23 A = T12 low A = T12 All on the Bb side, you'll notice. You could also play th

Re: [Hornlist] Fingering Question

2005-05-07 Thread Jerryold99
In a message dated 5/7/2005 11:47:27 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] yscomputer.com writes: www.kbnj.com/music/Horn_Fingering_Question.pdf Hi Steve?, This is easy . You need to be aware of the false fingerings that have or will be suggested, however, I would suggest

Re: [Hornlist] Fingering Question

2005-05-07 Thread Paul Mansur
If it goes by pretty fast you can do the Ab with 2 on the Bb horn. What is prominent? the A or the Ab? Paul Mansur On Saturday, May 7, 2005, at 12:48 PM, Steve Freides wrote: In this march excerpt, which goes in a fast 2/4 http://www.kbnj.com/music/Horn_Fingering_Question.pdf I've found the A-G#

Re: [Hornlist] Fingering Question

2005-05-07 Thread Billbamberg
Every now and then, one of the Schmidt copy Bb horns that King made comes up on eBay in the $200 range. Pick one up and have some fun with it. You'll find it is quite a different instrument, and it will lead you to interesting things that can be transferred to a double. The first thing, thoug

RE: [Hornlist] Fingering Question

2005-05-07 Thread Steve Freides
to make it through without flubbing too much. -S- > -Original Message- > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > du] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 1:29 PM > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Fingering Ques

RE: [Hornlist] Fingering Question

2005-05-07 Thread Loren
7; Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Fingering Question Jerry Houston wrote: > Steve Freides wrote: > > In this march excerpt, which goes in a fast 2/4 > > > > http://www.kbnj.com/music/Horn_Fingering_Question.pdf > > > > I've found the A-G#-A to weird to play as 1

Re: [Hornlist] Fingering Question

2005-05-07 Thread Billbamberg
In a message dated 5/7/2005 10:09:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > That's actually what I've been doing (and I should have said that in my > original message). It makes the two sections use the same fingering of > open, 2, open, which nice for a beginner like me. >

Re: [Hornlist] Fingering Question

2005-05-07 Thread Billbamberg
In a message dated 5/7/2005 9:47:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > http://www.kbnj.com/music/Horn_Fingering_Question.pdf I, too have a horn with the open A usable, but you can surely do A on third valve, either horn, and the G# is just 2/3. Use the horn that best allows

RE: [Hornlist] Fingering Question

2005-05-07 Thread Steve Freides
Jerry Houston wrote: > Steve Freides wrote: > > In this march excerpt, which goes in a fast 2/4 > > > > http://www.kbnj.com/music/Horn_Fingering_Question.pdf > > > > I've found the A-G#-A to weird to play as 1-2, 2-3, 1-2 on > the B-flat > > horn, so I've elected to take the A as open on the B-

Re: [Hornlist] Fingering Question

2005-05-07 Thread Jerry Houston
Steve Freides wrote: In this march excerpt, which goes in a fast 2/4 http://www.kbnj.com/music/Horn_Fingering_Question.pdf I've found the A-G#-A to weird to play as 1-2, 2-3, 1-2 on the B-flat horn, so I've elected to take the A as open on the B-flat horn instead. If you decide to go with the open

Re: [Hornlist] Fingering Question

2005-05-07 Thread John Kowalchuk
At 12:48 PM 5/7/05 -0400, Steve Freides wrote: >I've found the A-G#-A to weird to play as 1-2, 2-3, 1-2 on the B-flat horn, >so I've elected to take the A as open on the B-flat horn instead. Other options would be open, 2, open. Also 3, 2-3, 3. John Kowalchuk maker of mutes/horns/canoes/p

[Hornlist] Fingering Question

2005-05-07 Thread Steve Freides
In this march excerpt, which goes in a fast 2/4 http://www.kbnj.com/music/Horn_Fingering_Question.pdf I've found the A-G#-A to weird to play as 1-2, 2-3, 1-2 on the B-flat horn, so I've elected to take the A as open on the B-flat horn instead. I imagine this is a reasonable choice but I though

RE: [Hornlist] Fingering question

2005-03-25 Thread hans
] On Behalf Of Jerry Houston Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 9:17 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Fingering question From: "Steve Freides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Hornlist] Fingering question > > Playing around with this on my own for the first few days after

Re: [Hornlist] Fingering question

2005-03-25 Thread Jerry Houston
From: "Steve Freides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Hornlist] Fingering question Playing around with this on my own for the first few days after the lesson, I decided I liked this fingering, and since then I've changed my default fingering for written fourth line D from op

RE: [Hornlist] Fingering question

2005-03-25 Thread hans
On Behalf Of Steve Freides Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 8:59 PM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: [Hornlist] Fingering question At my most recent lesson, I was playing a passage from early on in the Horner method that started on third space C and went up C-D-E. Because I'm playing a sin

[Hornlist] Fingering question

2005-03-25 Thread Steve Freides
At my most recent lesson, I was playing a passage from early on in the Horner method that started on third space C and went up C-D-E. Because I'm playing a single F horn, I was playing all three as open. Chris suggested I finger the D with the first valve held down, a fingering which I was aware

RE: [Hornlist] Fingering question and a single horn question

2004-11-29 Thread hans
, 2004 7:46 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Fingering question and a single horn question So you put in sardines, and out come clams. Pretty fishy, if you ask me. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http

RE: [Hornlist] Fingering question and a single horn question

2004-11-29 Thread Billbamberg
Check the Lars Kirmser site for serial numbers and you will be able to determine age. The 4D is recognizable in photos because it has the deco leadpipe and bell braces that distinguish the 6D and 8D. The 14D braces are just curved wire, not squared off. If you search for Reynolds horns, they

RE: [Hornlist] Fingering question and a single horn question

2004-11-29 Thread Billbamberg
So you put in sardines, and out come clams. Pretty fishy, if you ask me. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

RE: [Hornlist] Fingering question and a single horn question

2004-11-28 Thread Steve Freides
Thanks in advance. -S- > -Original Message- > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > du] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 7:45 PM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Fingering question and a single horn

Re: [Hornlist] Fingering question and a single horn question

2004-11-28 Thread Billbamberg
My two favorites for quality and value are the Reynolds Contempora (made in Cleveland preferable, but Abilene will be fine with newer valves) and the Conn 4D (only trust those made in Elkhart. Not the 14D, it is a student model). I see a lot of King 618 models on ebay, but I don't have persona

RE: [Hornlist] Fingering question and a single horn question

2004-11-28 Thread hans
Behalf Of Steve Freides Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:56 PM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Fingering question and a single horn question > -Original Message- > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > du] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Hornlist] Fingering question and a single horn question

2004-11-28 Thread Steve Freides
> -Original Message- > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > du] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 2:16 AM > To: 'The Horn List' > Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Fingering question and a single horn question &g

RE: [Hornlist] Fingering question and a single horn question

2004-11-27 Thread hans
If you play this passage on 1st valve, you are actually playing an e-flat horn and - as you realized exactly - partials 8 - 9- 10 - 9 - 8 The other way, when you "valved" the same few notes, you probably valved them as 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 1. The cause for the clam might be here the written d2 fingere

[Hornlist] Fingering question and a single horn question

2004-11-27 Thread Steve Freides
Here's a copy of an exercise from the Anton Horner Primary Studies book I'm working on: http://www.kbnj.com/music/HornerP13Var4.pdf It's at the bottom of Page 13, Variation 4. If you've got the book, you needn't bother with the link above. My question concerns the phrase that starts in measure