Re: [HOT] round houses / huts + (Nepal HOT mapping)

Was just reading that :) I'll go back over areas i've done - but i think we're missing a lot of these from other squares i've looked over. Whoever is managing hotosm comms, might be worth tweeting/reminding all mappers: don't forget to map all round structures, even in middle of remote

Re: [HOT] How to handle task edge areas correctly?

So Nick, when we finish a square/tile/project and someone looks to validate it, we get feedback? We are told what we did right and what we did wrong? Suzan On Apr 30, 2015, at 1:57 AM, Nick Allen wrote: Henri all, especially any 'new mappers' We need two things which sometimes are in

Re: [HOT] Instructions for new folks

Thanks John. Pete posted a training guidance for new OSMers. This writing is great. If anyone can help taking off all the great training tips and add to the hackpad, we might collectively have more docs in just a short time https://hackpad.com/HOT-Nepal-Earthquake-Training-Support-3GupUkChA1n

Re: [HOT] How to handle task edge areas correctly?

Henri Using my phone so briefly - see here http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/#checking-on-the-existing-data---id Nick Volunteer 'Tallguy' for https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy Treasurer, website Bonus Ball admin for

Re: [HOT] round houses / huts + (Nepal HOT mapping)

Good insight about round buildings in Nepal. I saw a number of small round structures in #89 and remembered reading about towers built by Milarepa that are still standing, so I looked up the book reference, and it seems they are in that area, so I made them round and marked them as…houses. The

Re: [HOT] How to handle existing features for #1018 Nepal task

Here a few quick comments to start with. But it comes with a disclaimer: I am not an expert for the Nepal activation. So these are just my personal comments as a mapper. 2015-04-30 8:07 GMT+02:00 Steve Bower sbo...@gmavt.net: I'm working on project #1081 Nepal detailed mapping 2nd pass. I'm new

[HOT] How to handle task edge areas correctly?

Hello, I am a beginner with HOT OSM. So far I’ve mostly digitized buildings regarding the Gorkha task (#1009). I’ve read the beginners tutorials but I haven’t seen what is the proper way to handle edge areas (maybe I’ve missed it). E.g., 1) if I find a road/path/track how that goes beyond

[HOT] round houses / huts + (Nepal HOT mapping)

Hi All, 1) Big question: There are a lot of round structures in rural Nepal. Some are solid two story houses, others are more like shelters for those working in fields to rest in during the heat of the day. Others look like haystacks or storage structures. However, I'm not seeing many round

Re: [HOT] round houses / huts + (Nepal HOT mapping)

Hi, Please see http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/#checking-on-the-existing-data---id and it's following section about buildings and huts. Nick Volunteer 'Tallguy' for https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy Treasurer,

Re: [HOT] How to handle task edge areas correctly?

Suzan The validators can send messages using the Tasking Manager - that numerous other details are listed in http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/tasking-manager/ The wiki entry on validating also contains info. Not everyone sends a message, and often you don't need to. You can find the

Re: [HOT] How to handle existing features for #1018 Nepal task

Hello Steve, I think I understand your questions, I am a GIS expert too. But when I take on a HOT task I ask myself, which features are critical to first responders? First of all: Access. So I try to connect networks of roads an tracks accessible to vehicles. Second: Possible human presence. So

Re: [HOT] How to handle task edge areas correctly?

Thanks Nick! In my case the features didn’t go only a little into the other tile, they went a lot (e.g. they were not ‘handed over’). The edge area instructions could be shortly mentioned with the task instructions (sort of Do’s and Dont’s ) so this kind of mistakes could be avoided. What

Re: [HOT] How to handle task edge areas correctly?

Hi Nick, Thank you for clarifying things. I will read the links you provided. I hope I didn’t offend anyone, it surely wasn’t my purpose, I just want to provide good quality data for the people in need. best regards, Henri From: Nick Allen [mailto:nick.allen...@gmail.com] Sent:

Re: [HOT] AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH!

Sorry forma wrong forwarding, this proposal was for community consideration Il 30/apr/2015 12:15, Laura Camellini jeeltcr...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hi all, sorry for not quoting, just telling you my proposal, i followed the events of these days with growing concerning and would like to help you

[HOT] Help.

I accidentally gave out my e-mail. I do not want to keep receiving these messages, please take me off of your contact list. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot

Re: [HOT] Help.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just click the 'listinfo' link at the bottom of any of the messages (including this one), and then look at the bottom of the page it takes you to for the 'unsubscribe' function. - -AndrewBuck On 04/30/2015 07:00 AM, Lorray Ann wrote: I

[HOT] HOT's new Interim Executive Director

HI everyone, Please join me in giving a warm welcome to Tyler Radford. He is HOT's Interim Executive Director starting today. Today Tyler will join the community at the first ever HOT Summit held in Washington DC. Blake has been posting about full weekend of all things HOT. As you can imagine

[HOT] Why we help: Earthbreaking messages asking for help

Nirab from Kathmandu Living Labs is reporting. This is why we help and should try to be more organized to accelerate our response. Just got this my home is Sindhupalchowk, n from remote vdc selang-9. My home n my village is completely destroyed. Just tonight I came walking 3 hrs in a place

Re: [HOT] Help.

Hi - Please go to this page - near the bottom is an option to unsubscribe. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot Best wishes Dan 2015-04-30 13:00 GMT+01:00 Lorray Ann annlor...@gmail.com: I accidentally gave out my e-mail. I do not want to keep receiving these messages, please take me

[HOT] Slow time - adding addresses to all the buildings

It's a commercial idea by what3words but it might add value. What he did was to divide the world up into 3m-by-3m squares, and assign each a unique combination of three words. Could we come up with an open data equivalent of a postcode? http://www.bbc.com/news/business-32444811 Cheerio John

Re: [HOT] TM Job to add GNS place names in Nepal

Hi, Forgot to mention I will need the OSM username from the interested people to be able to add them in the job users. Sincerely, Severin On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We just created a TM job http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1019 to add

Re: [HOT] AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH!

Hi As a novice on HOT I would support Severin's suggestion for an Experienced Mapper status for validation. I have managed to complete about 36 Tasks to date, and have decided to concentrate on the Malawi flooding Tasks, although its High Priority status has been rather over taken by recent

Re: [HOT] Why we help: Earthbreaking messages asking for help

This is the same district I have been requesting imagery for. Thanks for those who have been working on it. But agencies are consistently asking for imagery for this district. Having post quake imagery for affected areas seem to be important at this stage. I have mentioned this few times in Skype

Re: [HOT] Validation of 'own' tiles

This is a software issue. Have filed it here: https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/589 -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org

[HOT] Nepal rural areas - tagging forests and farmland?

Hi all, I'm completely new to this and just started mapping in Nepal. Now I noticed that some people extensively tag woodland and farmland in the rural areas of Nepal, while the majority does not. I've seen validated squares with and without these tags. Now my first guess is that since it's

[HOT] Fwd: Urgent: Nepal satellite imagery (Pre-Earthquake VIIRS Sample Files)

see below. perhaps of interest for prioritization.  Send from my phone. Please excuse brevity and typos.  In F,LT, Stace Maples  Geospatial Manager  Stanford Geospatial Center  @mapninja  staceymaples@G+ Skype: stacey.maples 214.641.0920 Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/ I have a map of

Re: [HOT] Validation of 'own' tiles

thanks. an other way to help is to contribute to the task manager development, adding, commenting issues. https://github.com/hotosm/imagery-requests/issues regard.    Pierre De : spatialbits spatialb...@posteo.net À : hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 30 avril 2015 1h48 Objet :

[HOT] KLL Situation Room Report (Day 5)

Here is the today's report from our situation room http://kathmandulivinglabs.org/blog/nepal-earthquake-report-from-openstreetmaps-situation-room-day-5-april-30/ Thanks again for your continued help! Nama Nama R.

Re: [HOT] How to handle existing features for #1018 Nepal task

Hi Steve, I agree that we can improve. Each activation is pushing us to our limits. The leaders, we do not have time to look at the details. Did not have time either to write updates either then sending short messages on https://twitter.com/pierzen An other area whre help woudbe appreciated.

[HOT] limit validation to experienced users

Hi all, I wasn't able to read all the email I got for the last 3 days, and there's a ton of those. However, I've seen a lot of people complaining about beginner mappers validating tasks even if they're not experienced enough to do so. Before we find a way to avoid this with additions to the

Re: [HOT] TM Job to add GNS place names in Nepal

Hi Stacy, Well-noted! On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Stacey Maples stacemap...@stanford.edu wrote: Severin, Some of us not quite experienced enough yet HOTTIES would be interested in seeing a summary of the workflows and issues encountered during this task, once it is done. Send from

Re: [HOT] map hackathon at SFSU

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: We are looking to host a mapping hackathon at San Francisco State University in the next few days for the #NepalEarthquake effort. I am fairly new to OSM, so I'm looking for people who can help us in running the training

[HOT] map hackathon at SFSU

We are looking to host a mapping hackathon at San Francisco State University in the next few days for the #NepalEarthquake effort. I am fairly new to OSM, so I'm looking for people who can help us in running the training sessions and actual mapping/tagging. We can provide space, computers,

Re: [HOT] How to handle existing features for #1018 Nepal task

An interesting observation here. during this time HOT is experiencing a large expansion of activity and our strength will be how we learn and adapt will be our strength for the future. At some point in the future we should go through all our email trails and mine the experiences people have had to

Re: [HOT] map hackathon at SFSU

I've been running trainings at Stanford all week. I can help coordinate and possibly teach, next week. let me know what days/times you have in mind. Sent from my phone. Please excuse typos and brevity. In F,LT, Stace Maples Geospatial Manager Stanford Geospatial Center @mapninja

[HOT] Date of a mapped feature?

Hello, I have experience in GIS and RS but am quite new in OSM so sorry for the newbie question. Basically I would like to know if and how one can know when a feature was mapped on the OSM map. Or rather what was the date of the imagery that was used to map a specific feature. Since the OSM

Re: [HOT] limit validation to experienced users

Kretzer coming back to this subject. A story from behind the scene. This remembers me a new contributor for Ebola that nearly entered in an edit war. He was contacted. This ended-up that he was a very motivated teenager. His parents helped him and he his now in the top list of the Ebola

Re: [HOT] Mapping Request

But then again, this might also be a military camp, given it is fenced and holds a flagpole: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/27.75311/85.41912 2015-04-30 22:04 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net: I can confirm there is a water plant

Re: [HOT] Mapping Request

I can confirm there is a water plant http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/27.75845/85.41984. The reservoirs have been mapped by previous mappers. The militairy camp might be here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/27.75949/85.42205 as I can see some barack-like structures. 2015-04-30 21:32

[HOT] Mapping Request

Hi Dear Friends and Mappers, I've received a request through Facebook for some mapping needs. Thought I would pass along to you in your continued amazing work! Hello, we have been dispatched with our SAR team to: 27°45'28.5N 85°25'08.8E. There should be a military camp and also a water plant.

Re: [HOT] Date of a mapped feature?

It is not necessary to open an editor to see these histories, they can be found at the openstreetmap.org site too. To get them, do the following: Zoom in sufficiently that there are not too many objects in the part that you are looking at. Then in the menu in the upper right, click on 'layers'

Re: [HOT] HELP - JOSM on MacbookPro OS 10.6

I can't run Java 7 on 10.6.8, so no JOSM for me. Really disappointing. not so easy, but maybe this help:Stack Overflow : How to install java jdk 7 on Snow Leopard http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13536667/how-to-install-java-jdk-7-on-snow-leopard Imre 2015-05-01 5:59 GMT+02:00 Suzan

[HOT] Nepal Data Quality and strange key:name like : name=building=yes ( count=341 )

Hi, maybe it is not critical but, I have found strange name tagging [ as I see mostly motivated new OSM mappers ] and I don't know it is important or not.. see: http://nepal-taginfo.openstreetmap.hu/tags/?key=namevalue=building%3Dyes overpass query:http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/96x Regards,

Re: [HOT] HELP - JOSM on MacbookPro OS 10.6

Hey Suzan, Any specific error message that you got when you launch JOSM? You might need to update your Java manually since Apple disabled automatic update for Java. So I assume you still stuck at version 6. Read more here: https://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_mac.xml and there's a link to

Re: [HOT] Date of a mapped feature?

Hi Chris - To answer your question, it IS possible to see edit history of any node (point), way (line or area), or relation (group of features) on OpenStreetMap. This is usually good when imagery and OSM data don't match up - which is older? 1. To see the data, find the number ID. -- On the iD

Re: [HOT] HELP - JOSM on MacbookPro OS 10.6

Thank you everyone. I can't run Java 7 on 10.6.8, so no JOSM for me. Really disappointing. Suzan On Apr 30, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Emir Hartato wrote: Hey Suzan, Any specific error message that you got when you launch JOSM? You might need to update your Java manually since Apple disabled

Re: [HOT] HELP - JOSM on MacbookPro OS 10.6

Look on the JOSM home page about Mcss and Java (7?) you may need to use an earlier version of both. Cheerio John On 30 April 2015 at 20:11, Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com wrote: I am having difficulties getting JOSM to install and launch on a MacBookPro running 10.6.8. Help?

[HOT] Map-In at SMU Dallas

We are holding an Open Map-In at SMU in Dallas for the Nepal Earthquake effort on Tuesday 5th May from 4-6 and on. At the Hunt Institute for Engineering Humanity. Lyle School of Engineering Caruth Hall. Local OSM team invited - and open to all. J Zarazaga

Re: [HOT] Remote area mapping, clouds, six questions

Suzan - I would like to hear from others. Here are my newbie thoughts: ONE Small structures that may not be houses: This may depend on the project. For #1018, Nepal Detailed Mapping 2nd Pass, the instructions are to tag buildings as building=yes rather than as 'house'. So I have included some

Re: [HOT] Remote area mapping, clouds, six questions

Suzan, ONE: Because we don't know for sure if these structures are houses, we just tag them as Building. Something the size of a house could be Siddharta's Car Repair, so we're safest with Building. TWO: Could be a huge boulder, but, if it's rectangular,

[HOT] AOI for Post Disaster Imagery

Hi all, Nirab sent this message, but it doesn't seem to have gone through as a result of the geojson attachments. Relaying the message from the KLL Situation Room here: The weather has been making hard to obtain good post quake imagery. Whenever the weather does clear up, here is what our team at

Re: [HOT] Info on Nepal earthquake for NGOs?

OK I've just finished that blog post:http://hotosm.org/updates/2015-05-01_nepal_earthquake_we_have_maps It's still not quite what I had in mind because it turned into a bit of an epic list of links. Always easier to write lots of words than a few :-)  But we could maybe do a version of this

Re: [HOT] Date of a mapped feature?

Thanks Clifford for the clarification. Am I the only one who believes this issue is very important and should be dealt with? Maybe it's more a mid/long term issue: while we can guess that everything which is mapped today in Nepal is very recent because of the effort and wide participation

[HOT] HELP - JOSM on MacbookPro OS 10.6

I am having difficulties getting JOSM to install and launch on a MacBookPro running 10.6.8. Help? ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot

Re: [HOT] Date of a mapped feature?

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Chris Braun braun...@gmail.com wrote: I have experience in GIS and RS but am quite new in OSM so sorry for the newbie question. Basically I would like to know if and how one can know when a feature was mapped on the OSM map. Or rather what was the date of the

Re: [HOT] map hackathon at SFSU

Still organizing logistics, but looking at Tuesday May 5. I have space booked for the whole day. Thanks! Sameer On Apr 30, 2015 11:08 AM, Maples, Stacey stacey.map...@yale.edu wrote: I've been running trainings at Stanford all week. I can help coordinate and possibly teach, next week. let me

Re: [HOT] map hackathon at SFSU

Thx! Will take a look and catch up. Sameer On Apr 30, 2015 11:10 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: We are looking to host a mapping hackathon at San Francisco State University in the next few days for the

[HOT] Remote area mapping, clouds, six questions

ONE Small structures/houses In remote areas, lightly populated, it's difficult to see if a small structure is a house or something else. I am labeling them all house. Is this correct? People live in tiny places in Nepal, less that 25' square. They are hard to discern. If it looks like a

Re: [HOT] How to handle existing features for #1018 Nepal task

I would agree with Michael - do not delete existing work, unless it is clearly wrong of course. Bear in mind that professionals using the OSM map data can process it, and use it as they see fit, e.g. only include specific features is their own maps, exclude old data, and so on. On 30 April 2015

Re: [HOT] Nepal Data Quality and strange key:name like : name=building=yes ( count=341 )

Good Super Validation. These are ways to find / correct. I would do distinct Overpass query for nodes and ways.Nodes would have to be converted to ways.And ways needs to be validated one by one to assure that these are houses and not a residential area with many houses inside. The Todo Plugin in

Re: [HOT] Remote area mapping, clouds, six questions

small buildings building=yes, let some on the ground say its a house etc. If a building is not a triangle then change it to a rectangle. JOSM building tool is fast and very easy to use. Some projects want all buildings, some want residential areas and highways, all buildings are nice but there

Re: [HOT] TM Job to add GNS place names in Nepal

Severin,  Some of us not quite experienced enough yet HOTTIES would be interested in seeing a summary of the workflows and issues encountered during this task, once it is done.  Send from my phone. Please excuse brevity and typos.  In F,LT, Stace Maples  Geospatial Manager  Stanford

Re: [HOT] Nepal rural areas - tagging forests and farmland?

Hi Falkmar, If you look at the tasks up on the tasking manager they usually tell you what to prioritize. In general, woodlands and farmlands are very much nice to have at this moment. We're prioritizing roads, residential areas, buildings and any critical infrastructure we can see (bridges,

Re: [HOT] NEPAL/Taginfo ( http://178.62.129.19/ temporary instance )

On 04/29/2015 05:12 PM, Imre Samu wrote: My only knowledge in HOT tagging, that: http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1008 and #1010 use this tags: * idp:camp_site=spontaneous_camp * damage:event=nepal_earthquake_2015 Are there any plans to map damage to buildings and infrastructure?

Re: [HOT] Nepal rural areas - tagging forests and farmland?

Hi Falkmar, Welcome and thanks for your effort! The best way to think about this is that we want to get the maximum benefit we can, out of your time. That's why we don't ask you to map everything - in the task instructions it's usually very specific about the type of feature that needs mapping.

Re: [HOT] Nepal rural areas - tagging forests and farmland?

Hello Falkmar, My opinion is persona, not that of the community, but I agree. The best thing is concentrating your mapping effort on the things that you believe are most relevant. Good luck participating! Kind regards, Milo 2015-04-30 9:16 GMT+02:00 falk...@gmx.net: Hi all, I'm completely

[HOT] How to handle existing features for #1018 Nepal task

I'm working on project #1081 Nepal detailed mapping 2nd pass. I'm new to OSM but have lots of GIS experience. Not sure how best to handle existing features already in the data (either from the 1st pass, or predating the project) (1) The instructions say do not trace all the paths in the fields

Re: [HOT] limit validation to experienced users

Makes sense to me ... In task #1018 there seems to be a user with little experience and lots of confidence invalidating dozens of tiles, arguing that every individual structure needs to be traced. The person even entered in a kind if edit war with maning. I really feel this is a waste of

Re: [HOT] limit validation to experienced users

at the same time, this various emotive ractions. we should have some empathy and explain calmly to these contributors. thanks to take care of this.   Pierre De : Kretzer kret...@gmx.net À : Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com Cc : HOT Openstreetmap hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le :

Re: [HOT] NEPAL/Taginfo ( http://178.62.129.19/ temporary instance )

hi ralf we are all waiting anxiously for post-disaster imagery. great support from the various satellite companies. greay thanks for their contibutions, to realign and try to take new pictures. this is the monsoon season and badly too cloudy.    Pierre De : Ralf Kleineisel