Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Russell Deffner
ter as we go… =Russ From: Russell Deffner [mailto:russell.deff...@hotosm.org] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 2:16 PM To: 'john whelan'; 'Blake Girardot' Cc: 'hot@openstreetmap.org' Subject: RE: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation One other thing that might s

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Jo
You could also fetch the history of the object with Ctrl-h, then click through on the changeset and leave a changeset comment. Jo 2016-04-24 22:24 GMT+02:00 Michael Heißmeier : > Hi, > > today I've been validating a lot on project 1836 and found the quality of > mapping astonishingly bad. Lots o

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Michael Heißmeier
Hi, today I've been validating a lot on project 1836 and found the quality of mapping astonishingly bad. Lots of thiles where the geometry mapped had little in common with the geometry in the imagery. Apart from the usual tagging errors, overlapping shapes etc. One reason might be that the i

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Russell Deffner
john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 2:05 PM To: Blake Girardot Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation Yes but then you need a fair bit of knowledge of JOSM to know that and its a lot easier just to put a @ sign with the comment

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread john whelan
09, Russell Deffner > > wrote: > >> > >> Thanks Nama, just trying to herd :) > >> > >> =Russ > >> > >> > >> > >> From: nama.budhathoki [mailto:namabudhath...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 10:06 AM > >&

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Jo
gt; > >> =Russ > >> > >> > >> > >> From: nama.budhathoki [mailto:namabudhath...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 10:06 AM > >> To: Russell Deffner; 'Blake Girardot HOT/OSM'; 'John Whelan'; Megha > &g

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Blake Girardot
abudhath...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 10:06 AM >> To: Russell Deffner; 'Blake Girardot HOT/OSM'; 'John Whelan'; Megha >> Shrestha >> >> >> Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org >> Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - vali

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread hyan...@gmail.com
;> Also, we’ve been at it over a week now; make sure to take breaks and if >> you need ‘back-up’, let us know. >> >> =Russ >> >> >> >> *From:* hyan...@gmail.com [mailto:hyan...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Sunday, April 24, 2016 11:57 AM >> *To:*

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Russell Deffner
: Humberto Yances; john whelan; HOT Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation Greets Everyone on HOTOSM ! Am not a trained professional in this field. Am just marking all the damage on Tomnod . My heart is really saddened at all the damages buildings etc. I do appreciate and respect

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Autre Planete
n at it over a week now; make sure to take breaks and if > you need ‘back-up’, let us know. > > =Russ > > > > *From:* hyan...@gmail.com [mailto:hyan...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, April 24, 2016 11:57 AM > *To:* john whelan > *Cc:* HOT > > *Subject:* Re: [HO

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Russell Deffner
Sunday, April 24, 2016 11:57 AM To: john whelan Cc: HOT Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation John, I feel you are right with your point to coaching mappers, a way to do this is through comments in the task. For lucky or common practice, must of Mapathons has been carry out with st

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread hyan...@gmail.com
@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Sunday, April 24, 2016 10:06 AM >> *To:* Russell Deffner; 'Blake Girardot HOT/OSM'; 'John Whelan'; Megha >> Shrestha >> >> *Cc:* hot@openstreetmap.org >> *Subject:* Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation >>

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Pierre GIRAUD
24, 2016 10:06 AM >> To: Russell Deffner; 'Blake Girardot HOT/OSM'; 'John Whelan'; Megha >> Shrestha >> >> >> Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org >> Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation >> >> >> >> Hi Russell, >>

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread john whelan
; Sent from my Samsung device > > > > Original message > From: Russell Deffner > Date: 24/04/2016 20:40 (GMT+05:45) > To: 'Blake Girardot HOT/OSM' , 'John Whelan' < > jwhelan0...@gmail.com> > Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org > Sub

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Russell Deffner
Thanks Nama, just trying to herd :) =Russ From: nama.budhathoki [mailto:namabudhath...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 10:06 AM To: Russell Deffner; 'Blake Girardot HOT/OSM'; 'John Whelan'; Megha Shrestha Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread nama.budhathoki
7; , 'John Whelan' Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation Hi Blake and John, I'll add to Humberto, we'll have a few staff in the HOT Indonesia office (tonight/their morning).  We also have a standing offer from KLL to have some staff

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Russell Deffner
John, on this note, For road networks and rivers its actually a lot better as some mappers only map to the edge of the tile and the next mapper doesn't realise its important. We actually added a feature to the TM to create ‘tiles’ with ‘complex geometries’ for projects that don’t ‘fit in a squ

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread john whelan
I've used the mass validation technique before and you can pick up a fair chunk of stuff doing it plus it's faster than going through the tiles to validate. For road networks and rivers its actually a lot better as some mappers only map to the edge of the tile and the next mapper doesn't realise i

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Mike Dupont
the validation problems that I have seen are with changes between versions of imagery. It might be good against bing but not against the last images post event. No automated process will pick that up. On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM < blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote: > Hi

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Mike Dupont
I am busy invalidating the tiles. the new imagery shows many changes to bing. http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1832#task/21 the offsets are off. buildings are missing. On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 1:51 PM, John Whelan wrote: > > I'm seeing projects archived fairly quickly without validation. > > Of th

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
Hi Mike, Really helpful insight on what is contributing to the issues, the imagery change, we need to look at how to minimize that through better instructions as well as validation folks need to be aware they should be using all the available imagery when working. Mass validation outside of the T

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Russell Deffner
he Trello? Then once we've identified who, we can assign whats... =Russ -Original Message- From: Blake Girardot HOT/OSM [mailto:blake.girar...@hotosm.org] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 8:46 AM To: John Whelan Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
Hi Humberto and John, I really encourage you to look at ways of doing large scale validations. One way I have done it in the past is to download the tasking manager either project area, or even the individual task square outlines and load them up in JOSM, then just do large scale validation of th

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
Hi John, Given that we are spending a lot of times on roads, getting road networks correct is pretty vital. Has anyone looked at using existing OSM tools, outside of the Tasking Manager to do large scale road network validation? The one that comes to mind is GeoFabrik's OSM Inspector: http://to

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread hyan...@gmail.com
Hello John, 2016-04-24 8:51 GMT-05:00 John Whelan : > > I'm seeing projects archived fairly quickly without validation. > > A team of validators will start with this ones from tomorrow, with the objective to review and validate all this squares. > Of the validation I have done I've seen crossin

[HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread John Whelan
I'm seeing projects archived fairly quickly without validation. Of the validation I have done I've seen crossing ways and highways almost meeting on a project that was supposed to be Highways only for experienced JOSM users. JOSM validation should have highlighted these errors before uploadi