Re: [HOT] addresses

2016-12-12 Thread john whelan
t; In the new page [https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/xx] you can > find the coordinates in the left panel for copy/paste. > > -- althio > > > On 13 December 2016 at 00:49, john whelan wrote: > > In JOSM I can see the longitude and latitude of each node of a > building. I > > don

Re: [HOT] addresses

2016-12-12 Thread john whelan
Of course I should have remembered that. Thanks John On 12 December 2016 at 19:24, Mike Thompson wrote: > John, > > In JOSM, select the node, press + i. A dialog box will be displayed > from which you can copy the coordinates. > > Mike > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 5:10

Re: [HOT] addresses

2016-12-13 Thread john whelan
could use Overpass API. It can give you center points for areas (both > way and multipolygon). You could use those coordinates. > > You can extract this information as CSV. Then read that into a spreadsheet > or Pandas or R or your own PostGIS table, of course. > > Polyglot > > &

[HOT] Northern Nigeria both famine and Polio

2016-12-15 Thread john whelan
We've known there is likely to be problems for some time now but little seems to be happening. Unicef and World Food Program now seem to be operating in there. ehealth Africa etc are doing some work on the Polio vaccine side. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/16/75000-children-in-nigeri

Re: [HOT] Nigerian shapefiles

2016-12-17 Thread john whelan
I'm not sure how relevant to HOT the shape files are. Basically we map although there are some imports but they are restricted because of licensing and some are not the best quality. My question was more is or will mapping become an urgent limiting factor? If so should we be mapping now rather th

Re: [HOT] Help fight malaria with some OSM validation!

2016-12-18 Thread john whelan
I'm still not seeing a grid. Cheerio John On 18 December 2016 at 13:24, Russell Deffner wrote: > Hi Phil, sorry for the delayed reply. It’s a large area so it might take a > moment to load; it’s also a bit different from our traditional projects as > we’re pre-identifying the populated places s

Re: [HOT] Help fight malaria with some OSM validation!

2016-12-18 Thread john whelan
just the > project boundaries but not the task ‘squares’; they do come up if you take > a random task. > > =Russ > > > > *From:* Kevin Bullock [mailto:kbull...@digitalglobe.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, December 18, 2016 4:54 PM > *To:* hot > *Cc:* Russell Deffner; john whelan

Re: [HOT] #MapLesotho task completed on Qacha's Nek

2016-12-19 Thread john whelan
I had a quick look. I must say that reading through the instructions I personally wouldn't feel confident I could mark any tile done. They are quite comprehensive and I'm not sure I personally have the experience to map all the different things requested. I did validate a couple of tiles then pu

Re: [HOT] Building Detection using Machine Learning

2016-12-21 Thread john whelan
My personal reaction is OpenStreetMap which is the data base behind HOT is not very open to machine scanning. The reason being they've seen some fairly poor results in the past. If you can set up some sort of workflow where the images are manually verified that might be more acceptable but its qu

Re: [HOT] Building Detection using Machine Learning

2016-12-23 Thread john whelan
Currently my thoughts run along the lines of use it to identify areas with buildings. Same as Mapswipe?, heavens things get outdated so quickly these days and Mapswipe hasn't been around for that long. Secondly if you map them but tag them with something like possiblebuilding=yes then they wouldn

[HOT] What I'd like for next Christmas is...

2017-01-05 Thread john whelan
Some sort of notification of when a tile is completed on a selected project. Currently I open up four projects each day and check for completed tiles so I can validate them. Three are moving very slowly currently, it can be a couple of weeks before another batch of tiles gets done. Problem is at

Re: [HOT] Task Manager slowness

2017-01-31 Thread john whelan
Just a comment when validating building only projects it is taking roughly ten times longer for the tile to come up than it does to validate so it is having an impact and probably a greater impact on validators. Cheerio John On 31 January 2017 at 07:53, Kretzer wrote: > > Yes, those Aweil proje

Re: [HOT] Validating by Username

2017-02-01 Thread john whelan
You need JOSM for validating anyway so if you're using JOSM then you can simply search for everything and it will give you the mappers name. iD will not pick out the crossing ways and duplicate nodes etc. Have you read through http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_dat

Re: [HOT] Validating by Username

2017-02-01 Thread john whelan
that you > are validating, once you select it in JOSM ("S" to put JOSM in "select > mode" and then click on the element), you can press +H to see > everyone who has ever edited it. > > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 6:49 PM, john whelan wrote: > >> You need

Re: [HOT] Study: validation feedback can provide important social affirmation

2017-02-09 Thread john whelan
A couple of comments, these are sort of related but not so scientific as Martin's work: First when you validate JOSM validation catches unclosed ways, (buildings for example.) crossing ways, ie two highways that cross but don't have a node so routing software won't know you can change from one to

Re: [HOT] HOT Tasking Manager Instance migration to new hardware tonight

2017-02-09 Thread john whelan
It's still taking twenty three milliseconds for a tile to come up. Much much better thank you all. Cheerio John On 9 February 2017 at 20:05, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM < blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote: > Dear Friends, > > This has been completed and everything seems to work well. > > If you still

Re: [HOT] Bad Gateway

2017-02-10 Thread john whelan
As a work around if you are running a maperthon could you download the area imagery directly? It's not quite as nice as using the tiles but if you upload frequently at least you can get some mapping done. Cheerio John On 10 February 2017 at 08:03, Blake Girardot wrote: > Dear Friends, > > We a

[HOT] Traffic accidents in Africa

2017-02-12 Thread john whelan
>From the public health point of view we map in support of reducing deaths etc from things like Malaria. In a number of African countries these days deaths from road accidents are higher not to mention the number of injuries. I think its more Open Data / Best Practises at some sort of government

Re: [HOT] Mapping request for Harper and Pleebo, Liberia

2017-02-15 Thread john whelan
A couple of days? We have projects that have been open for a couple of years. Given a couple of decent mappers an area can be mapped and validated quite quickly depending on the imagery. Given poor quality imagery people tend to drift off to other projects. MSF, Red Cross organise maperthons,

Re: [HOT] #2559 - Jigawa State Road Network

2017-02-18 Thread john whelan
Additionally if you don't map the settlements then how do you know where the highways are? Does it really need tracks? Cheerio John On 18 February 2017 at 11:04, Daniel Specht wrote: > If all hamlets are to be connected to the road network and all residential > roads mapped, I'd recommend allo

Re: [HOT] Matthew

2017-02-22 Thread john whelan
Data quality is always an issue and we don't have enough validators which doesn't help. We also have user expectations. If you want to use OSM in a particular area with low internet access perhaps you could arrange with someone to run an eye over the area first? With a large number of different

[HOT] What is practical when mapping using smartphones?

2017-02-22 Thread john whelan
OSMand allows tags to be updated on nodes but what about building outlines that have been tagged building=yes is there an easy way to change these to building=residential for example? Thanks John ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.

Re: [HOT] What is practical when mapping using smartphones?

2017-02-22 Thread john whelan
Thanks I'd forgotten about it. Does the trick but the training guide should be fun. Cheerio John On 22 Feb 2017 3:14 pm, "Majka" wrote: > The only editor I know for this is Vespucci for android, allowing full > edits, including use of JOSM presets. Everything else allows easy edits of > nodes

[HOT] note to Project Managers: Highway=road

2017-02-22 Thread john whelan
Currently there are HOT projects that include in the instructions the words "If you are unsure of what tag to assign to a road, use the provisional highway=road tag." Yes but many routing systems ignore this these. When we mapped with GPS traces we used highway=road because you didn't know if it

Re: [HOT] note to Project Managers: Highway=road

2017-02-22 Thread john whelan
nd Mapathons) > yopaseopor > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 11:42 PM, john whelan > wrote: > >> Currently there are HOT projects that include in the instructions the >> words >> >> "If you are unsure of what tag to assign to a road, use the provision

Re: [HOT] What is practical when mapping using smartphones?

2017-02-23 Thread john whelan
Interesting possibilities here. IOS apparently has Go Map!! Thanks Cheerio John On 23 February 2017 at 10:33, joost schouppe wrote: > This is also possible with Mapcontrib, which works just fine on mobile. > The scope is limited to what the mapcontrib instance has pre-defined. > > In this exa

Re: [HOT] note to Project Managers: Highway=road

2017-02-24 Thread john whelan
all routers. I am aware that many routers will allow you to adjust which highways they will run on. Cheerio John On 24 February 2017 at 04:11, Rory McCann wrote: > On 22/02/17 23:42, john whelan wrote: > > Currently there are HOT projects that include in the instructions the > words

Re: [HOT] Feedback about the Tasking Manager

2017-02-25 Thread john whelan
>-buildings are marked as points and not traced This is acceptable to OpenStreetMap. Adding additional information is easier to a node with things such as osmand etc. > -residential areas are drawn for less than three buildings Although many projects have this in the instructions I'm not sure t

[HOT] Could we get more out of our mappers by asking for less?

2017-02-25 Thread john whelan
Just an ideal thought. It came about as I'm loading in bits of Nigeria by the enamel bucket at the moment then looking for untagged ways and crossing highways. What stands out are blocks where every track and settlement is mapped and blank bits of the map. I've been attempting to join bits of hi

Re: [HOT] Could we get more out of our mappers by asking for less?

2017-02-26 Thread john whelan
igitized at a coarse scale. Mapping > quickly doesn't have to be done crudely. > There is no troupe of magic mapping elves that clean up the rough mapping. > > The next set of HOT projects I will set up will be roads/highways only and > then buildings only. > > Keep mapping

Re: [HOT] Could we get more out of our mappers by asking for less?

2017-02-26 Thread john whelan
ean up the rough mapping. > > The next set of HOT projects I will set up will be roads/highways only and > then buildings only. > > Keep mapping, > > Emmor > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 1:16 AM, john whelan > wrote: > >> Just an ideal thought. It came about as

Re: [HOT] Bounding box not in iD Editor anymore

2017-03-03 Thread john whelan
Currently in JOSM I'm not seeing the tile frame. Cheerio John On 3 March 2017 at 17:26, Rebecca Firth wrote: > Appreciate all the hard work going into getting this fixed - thank you > very much, especially to David who was meant to have been enjoying some > time off. > > Luckily there is a work

Re: [HOT] Bounding box not in iD Editor anymore

2017-03-03 Thread john whelan
Correction it was a little slow. John On 3 March 2017 at 18:19, john whelan wrote: > Currently in JOSM I'm not seeing the tile frame. > > Cheerio John > > On 3 March 2017 at 17:26, Rebecca Firth wrote: > >> Appreciate all the hard work going into getting this f

Re: [HOT] Data Collection

2017-03-06 Thread john whelan
One crude method is to download the daily dump. Cut out the area you're interested in. So something like osmconvert64 G:\downloads\zambia-latest.osm.pbf -o=f:\maps\zambia.osm osmconvert64 f:\maps\nigeria.osm -b=8,0,15.6884766,9 -o=f:\maps\nigeria7.osm Your drive letters will be different. Wa

[HOT] Using TMS imagery in 2571 and 2572

2017-03-12 Thread john whelan
These are both high priority projects but Bing coverage is not as good as it could be. However there is imagery tms:http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/digitalglobe.n6ngnadl/{z}/{ x}/{y}.png?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZGlnaXRhbGdsb2JlIiwiYS I6ImNpbncxNzE4OTE1dm51a2x5dzlkMXI0eHUifQ.TPHGd-IakYZGSP1ja3WTbQ I

[HOT] Maps for refugees

2017-03-15 Thread john whelan
It's not quite what we usually do but Syrian refugees are ending up in many parts of the world. OSMand allows you to choose the language both for the menus and for the map. So in Ottawa all the street names are in English or French but I can search for pharmacy in English or pharmacie if I'm usin

Re: [HOT] Broken (multi)polygon cleanup

2017-03-16 Thread john whelan
This is similar to my pulling in Africa a country at a time and using JOSM to check for errors. What I have noticed is one mapper will misstag then others will follow. So sanitising the area or checking it for errors before the new HOT mappers start would probably improve the overall data quality

Re: [HOT] Broken (multi)polygon cleanup

2017-03-17 Thread john whelan
about "(multi)polygons". This is not > something that only affects multipolygon relations, but all polygons, > even the ones created from closed ways. They are simpler than mp > relations, but that doesn't mean they can't have problems. > > Jochen > > On T

Re: [HOT] Broken (multi)polygon cleanup

2017-03-17 Thread john whelan
fixing-polygons-in-osm/blob/ > master/doc/problems.md > https://github.com/osmlab/fixing-polygons-in-osm/blob/master/doc/faq.md > > If there is something unclear after reading them, please ask, and I am > happy to explain. > > Jochen > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 08:30:27AM -0400, jo

Re: [HOT] Broken (multi)polygon cleanup

2017-03-18 Thread john whelan
rst place? > > John Whelan said earlier, "What I have noticed is one mapper will misstag > then others will follow.” I think this is true, and likely goes beyond > tagging — I suspect new mappers are looking for frames of reference to > judge their own work by, and end up just

[HOT] Mapping buildings

2017-03-19 Thread john whelan
We tend to think of mapping buildings as one of the simpler tasks we ask mappers to do but recently I've been looking at code that can extract buildings from OpenStreetMap aggregate the floor area then calculate an estimated population. Trouble is when I look at the map in some areas the buildings

Re: [HOT] Optimal NAS tech specifications to serve imagery tiles

2017-03-22 Thread john whelan
Are you looking for information on how to do it? On suggested hardware? Essentially for this purpose I see no reason why one local machine such as a lap top couldn't feed the others. In a windows environment its fairly easy to configure. In the security tabs for the folder you just make the fol

Re: [HOT] Optimal NAS tech specifications to serve imagery tiles

2017-03-22 Thread john whelan
> > I hope someone will come along with an example of what they've managed to > do before. If not it should be a fun exercise :) > > Cheers, Joseph > > > > On 22 March 2017 at 15:42, john whelan wrote: > >> Are you looking for information on how to do it?

Re: [HOT] Optimal NAS tech specifications to serve imagery tiles

2017-03-22 Thread john whelan
hub.com/posm/posm/blob/master/STATUS.md >>> >>> Looks like it could be a good feature to add though! Looks like Dale has >>> opened an issue on it already: https://github.com/posm/posm/issues/277 >>> >>> Cheers, Joseph >>> >>> >>&g

Re: [HOT] Optimal NAS tech specifications to serve imagery tiles

2017-03-22 Thread john whelan
stigating what would give > the OSM contributors the best user experience (that would likely be = which > one would serve the tiles in the fastest way). > > Cheers > > Claire > > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:53 PM, john whelan > wrote: > >> Taking it a ste

Re: [HOT] Optimal NAS tech specifications to serve imagery tiles

2017-03-22 Thread john whelan
rhaps? Regret asking a techie an apparently simple question yet? Cheerio John On 22 Mar 2017 1:56 pm, "john whelan" wrote: > Realistically do you need the complexity and expense of NAS? Most hard > drives last at least two years, Western Digital traditionally last a bit > longer in

[HOT] POSM

2017-03-22 Thread john whelan
I'm not sure where to post this but although it was created for intel NUCs with 8 gigs of memory can it be run on other boxes such as an i7 Laptop with 4 gigs of memory or isn't it stable enough yet? Thanks John ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org

Re: [HOT] POSM

2017-03-23 Thread john whelan
t; Papers. > > For future questions on POSM the best place to ask questions is on github. > http://github.com/posm > > Dale > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 2:49 PM, john whelan > wrote: > >> I'm not sure where to post this but although it was created for intel &

Re: [HOT] Optimal NAS tech specifications to serve imagery tiles

2017-03-23 Thread john whelan
I think we need to define the requirements first. POSM works on standard hardware in a standard configuration. It's been field tested and you learn from experience. It needs to be fairly idiot proof and unfortunately they're turning out better quality idiots all the time. It needs good simple d

[HOT] wish list for validators.

2017-03-25 Thread john whelan
Some way to spot the most recently mapped tiles that have not been validated. The current activity list isn't too bad except when a mapathon hits then there are more tiles than the activity list can hold. Also validating takes up slots on the list. The reason I'm after the most recently mapped t

[HOT] A tool for picking up settlements tagged as a single building?

2017-03-25 Thread john whelan
It's something I've noticed in Africa so its probably not putting new mappers through a month's training first but many villages have been mapped but tagged as a single building with building=yes. They aren't grouped together but rural Africa doesn't have that many large foot print buildings so it

Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] A tool for picking up settlements tagged as a single building?

2017-03-25 Thread john whelan
=True&checked=All&reasons=34 > > > > > Pierre > > > -- > *De :* john whelan > *À :* OpenStreetMap talk mailing list > *Cc :* "hot@openstreetmap.org" > *Envoyé le :* samedi 25 mars 2017 13h28 > *Objet :* [OSM-talk] A tool for picking up settlements ta

[HOT] Streetcomplete

2017-03-25 Thread john whelan
I've been taking a look at this Android app in the play store. What I like is the very clean interface. I've been looking at it to add levels to buildings for inexperienced mappers. Knowing how HOT likes to tag things could it be expanded to add the sort of tags that NGOs are interested in? Doe

Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] A tool for picking up settlements tagged as a single building?

2017-03-25 Thread john whelan
I looked into Overpass API, but no luck. In > JOSM areasize would definitely work. You'll have to find a sweetspot around > 100- > > so > > building areasize:100- > > or possibly 500 or 1000. > > Polyglot > > 2017-03-25 19:34 GMT+01:00 john whelan : > &g

Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] A tool for picking up settlements tagged as a single building?

2017-03-25 Thread john whelan
ay for JOSM and its incredible functionality! > > Polyglot > > 2017-03-26 1:51 GMT+01:00 john whelan : > >> I'll need to play around but by using building followed by remove addr, >> name etc I can start to pick them out. What exactly is areasize measured >> in?How can I d

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread john whelan
My understanding is that mapswipe is only used to identify where to map. Not to contribute to the map. Cheerio John On 26 Mar 2017 7:38 am, "Hakuch" wrote: > I contributed some data via mapswipe, but I could not find out where and > how exactly the marked tiles are used? Are there tasks where t

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread john whelan
there might be a way to bring something into OSM via a review process. Cheerio John On 26 March 2017 at 08:22, Hakuch wrote: > > > On 26.03.2017 14:13, john whelan wrote: > > My understanding is that mapswipe is only used to identify where to map. > > Not to

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread john whelan
eselected. Also the description: "The data > are prepared by MapSwipe" > > Regards, > > On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:40 PM john whelan wrote: > >> I seem to recall the same area is mapswiped by four different people >> before a mapper maps it. >> >> O

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread john whelan
validator. Six passes to get a validated tile. The other way would give you one in four passes three of which would be on smartphones. Cheerio John On 26 March 2017 at 09:01, john whelan wrote: > But does it address the concern about how much effort is expended compared > to the value

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread john whelan
ection as well. Cheerio John On 26 March 2017 at 10:46, Jo wrote: > It's definitely useful to save actual mapper's time. For validation I'm > not sure it would be a big help. > > Op 26 mrt. 2017 3:12 p.m. schreef "john whelan" : > > Would we be better a

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread john whelan
OT Summit presentation on MapSwipe and pybossa > https://youtu.be/pRZ_mWn0Lmc > > Cheers, > > Pete > > > > > > On 26 Mar 2017 15:47, "Jo" wrote: > >> It's definitely useful to save actual mapper's time. For validation I'm >> not

Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

2017-03-26 Thread john whelan
up of people involved in the workflow. > > Cheers, > > Pete > > On 26 Mar 2017 17:27, "Jo" wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> Both possibilities exist. You can 'reserve' a bunch of tile to work on >> while off line, or you can work online. >&

[HOT] landuse=residential within landuse=residential

2017-03-28 Thread john whelan
I'm starting to see areas where someone has mapped a largish area landuse=residential and other mappers have tightly mapped groups of buildings and tagged landuse=residential within this. I'm not sure whether to ignore them or delete one or the other? Thoughts please. Thanks John ___

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: landuse=residential within landuse=residential

2017-03-29 Thread john whelan
> I already saw people replacing the landuse=residential tag by place=town over a precise urban area for some towns in Africa what I think is basically wrong because these places are generally larger than the residential area. I must confess I normally just add a landuse=residential to these. I'l

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: landuse=residential within landuse=residential

2017-03-29 Thread john whelan
>Surely population density could be accessed more accurately by numbers of buildings than by sizes of "blobs", which are outlines very inconsistently ? I've seen people take the square area of all the buildings and apply a formula to it that includes the number of storeys. Not as good as a census

Re: [HOT] How bad is mapping from offset imagery?

2017-04-04 Thread john whelan
When I validate or go searching for untagged ways I quite often come across a building mapped two or three times its actual size. If its important for estimating population etc perhaps this could be mentioned in the instructions for the project. For the moment I'm just adding building=yes tags.

Re: [HOT] How to save 'empty' squares?

2017-04-09 Thread john whelan
Just mark it done. Do not add anything. Cheerio John On 8 April 2017 at 21:06, Sandy Olkowski wrote: > Hello, > > Sorry to post this question generally but I'm not sure who to ask. When > mapping a square that has no relevant features, how should we save the > work? > > I've been adding a gene

Re: [HOT] wish list for validators.

2017-04-09 Thread john whelan
topic: >> For me as a mapper, I wish that I would have a list of my finished tasks >> where I see which have been validated / invalidated. It would give me a >> boost when I see I am doing things right. >> >> Florian >> >> Am 25.03.2017 um 17:31 schrieb Pet

Re: [HOT] wish list for validators.

2017-04-09 Thread john whelan
uraging more users to validate. >> >> I know you've led quite a few discussions on this list about validation, >> so I'll be sure to check through those as well to find a common points. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Matt >> >> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017

[HOT] Mapping buildings something to think about

2017-04-10 Thread john whelan
I've been looking at one section of Africa and tagging untagged ways and area=yes ways. It's a very small % of the entire continent. So far in the last couple of days I've tagged nearly 800 buildings and I have another 350 untagged ways to go through. Looking at the mappers and the profiles many

Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings something to think about

2017-04-10 Thread john whelan
I have just come across a batch 13 and 16 march 2017 with two mappers mapping the same buildings. I have deleted some duplicates but I suspect there are more there. Cheerio John On 10 April 2017 at 17:50, john whelan wrote: > I've been looking at one section of Africa and tagging

Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings something to think about

2017-04-10 Thread john whelan
ing, > but the users are so much more productive and validators will come in > hordes to thank you :-) > > Polyglot > > > 2017-04-10 23:50 GMT+02:00 john whelan : > >> I've been looking at one section of Africa and tagging untagged ways and >> area=yes ways. It&#

Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings something to think about

2017-04-11 Thread john whelan
Thank you Majka. I think Majka has pinned down one major problem. Same problem as I had with trainee programmers to them speed was important. In HOT we shoot ourselves in the foot by saying this project is urgent, implying speed is of the essence. We need a different way to say this. This proj

[HOT] an in your spare time project. Cleaning up the imports.

2017-04-13 Thread john whelan
This is not for beginners and its much more something to think about first before rushing in. I've been looking over bits of Africa and one thing that stands out is the large number of imported highways. Unfortunately they don't always align to the imagery. Well they can be within a km or two of

[HOT] wish list on validation

2017-04-18 Thread john whelan
I'm looking at a project with more than 1,000 tiles that need validating. Some are done by mappers who are new, some by experienced mappers. What I'd like is something to serve up the tiles most in need of validation in the order of priority. So new mappers first, recent work first, trusted mappe

Re: [HOT] SAVE THE DATE- HOT Summit 2017

2017-04-21 Thread john whelan
When the Open Data conference was held in Ottawa many attendees stayed at a nearby downtown University of Ottawa student residence. Unfortunately the Ottawa U returns 1st September. Cheerio John On 21 April 2017 at 11:50, Heather Leson wrote: > Yipeee! > > On 21 Apr 2017 17:46, "Rachel VanNice

[HOT] Validation gossip

2017-04-26 Thread john whelan
It's not validation in the conventional sense but there seems to be some sort of system that detects crossing highways I suspect by using overpass. It was developed in Europe for crossing highways there but has now been extended to cover other places and I'm not sure of the name of it. Anyway rat_

[HOT] Mapping settlements best practices

2017-04-28 Thread john whelan
In Africa where we see small groups of huts clustered with other groups typically 100 meters apart some mappers will map each small cluster some draw a much larger landuse=residential covering perhaps a dozen small groupings. When validating I accept either but I suspect the multiple small landuse

Re: [HOT] Broken (multi)polygon cleanup

2017-05-02 Thread john whelan
I would concur that JOSM load up a chunk of the map then run the validator on it is a lot faster than Maproulette having said that not every one is familiar with the technique and a lot more people ie different warm bodies use Maproulette. Cheerio John On 2 May 2017 at 11:51, Andrew Buck wrote:

[HOT] Neglected Tropical Diseases - Economist 2027-4-21

2017-05-03 Thread john whelan
There is an interesting article in the Economist about how these diseases are being reduced. It started in 1987 when Merck started to give away a drug that was effective against river blindness. One problem was getting it to those who need it. The World Bank and the World Health Organisation tea

[HOT] Fwd: [OSM-talk] DigitalGlobe imagery for OSM editing

2017-05-10 Thread john whelan
For project 1396 the new imagery makes a big difference both in quality and coverage. It is available in JOSM but you need to select it in preferences. For other projects project managers might like to review the new imagery and amend their instructions if appropriate. Thank you DigitalGlobe and

Re: [HOT] Buildings and residential areas: Buldings as nodes (Q1)

2017-05-19 Thread john whelan
OpenStreetMap and HOT conventions are slightly different. In OpenStreetMap a much wider range of mapping conventions are used and it is quite acceptable for a building to be mapped as a node or outline, in HOT the convention is to map it in outline. If the buildings are mapped accurately then you

Re: [HOT] Experienced road network mappers - Salima District, Malawi

2017-05-20 Thread john whelan
The problem with using imagery is it depends when it was taken. Just after the rainy season all the unpaved highways will be narrower. Realistically if we map the highways connecting settlements as something such as highway=unclassified surface unpaved then let the locals clean up that probably is

Re: [HOT] Buildings and residential areas: Buldings as nodes (Q1)

2017-05-22 Thread john whelan
But from your computer science background you should realise there are costs involved. To mark a building as a node is one line in the database. As a way well there are four nodes for a start each with its lat and long, then you have the connecting way. Have you saved a bit of .OSM and opened it

Re: [HOT] Buildings and residential areas: Buldings as nodes (Q1)

2017-05-22 Thread john whelan
the ideal case is buildings as well-outlined ways (which is what > "experienced OSM mappers" do prefer, btw; no retraining needed). > > Cheers, > Jan "Piskvor" Martinec, > OSM and HOTOSM mapper > > Dne 22. 5. 2017 17:54 napsal uživatel "john whelan"

Re: [HOT] HOT carto, Re: Buildings and residential areas: Buldings as nodes (Q1)

2017-05-25 Thread john whelan
eetmap-carto/issues/806. > > > > However, I think there is a case for rendering node-buildings in the HOT > > cartography? I'll file a suggestion here: https://github.com/ > > hotosm/HDM-CartoCSS. > > > > Bjoern > > > > On 23 May 2017 at 04:54, Rob

Re: [HOT] HOT carto, Re: Buildings and residential areas: Buldings as nodes (Q1)

2017-05-25 Thread john whelan
gt; > > (2) Potentially a plugin assists the user in converting node[building] > into > > way[building]. As John mentioned, I do think the building plugin is > really > > useful, and it seems feasible to add some functionality to it for > > converting from node[building

[HOT] Road deaths, tool kits and best practices

2017-06-02 Thread john whelan
In the computer world we use best practices as a method of preventing problems. We do things such as ensuring operating systems are updated in a timely fashion. In the corporate world there are lists of best practices lying around. Although HOT normally concentrates on medical matters, on the mi

Re: [HOT] Summit '17 Registration now open!

2017-06-22 Thread john whelan
Is it possible to pay by paypal or any method that does not involve using my credit card number over the web? Is the amount in Can dollars? Thanks John On 22 June 2017 at 10:43, Rachel VanNice wrote: > Hi all! > Our chance to get past the mailing list and chat all things humanitarian > mapping

Re: [HOT] Summit '17 Registration now open!

2017-06-22 Thread john whelan
all into Eventbrite. > I know you're local, we haven't started organizing any local mapathons or > events outside the program yet, but Melanie, from the Working Group would, > I'm sure, appreciate some help on the ground, if you're willing. > Best, > Rachel >

Re: [HOT] Query Regarding Mapathon

2017-06-28 Thread john whelan
I think its take your pick. Generally speaking I'd choose something that your mappers can relate to and provide feedback to them. If it helps I am validating on http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2656# and http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2657# two fairly small projects that you stand a chance of com

[HOT] Open Data and OSM

2017-07-06 Thread john whelan
I'm seeing some interest in different levels of government in Africa and others in enriching OSM with their data. Is there somewhere that discusses things like Open Data licenses etc. Thanks John ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.

Re: [HOT] Open Data and OSM

2017-07-06 Thread john whelan
ps://opendatacommons.org/ > > Donal > > On 6 Jul 2017 17:07, "john whelan" wrote: > >> I'm seeing some interest in different levels of government in Africa and >> others in enriching OSM with their data. >> >>

Re: [HOT] Open Data and OSM

2017-07-06 Thread john whelan
enge > this claim among the data creators, it should be safe to use the data. > > Arun > > > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 11:35 PM, john whelan > wrote: > >> Not quite what I'm after. The City of Ottawa amended its Open Data >> license to be in line with th

[HOT] Buildings in Chad

2017-07-14 Thread john whelan
I'm looking at Chad by bringing 10% of the country at a time. I'm seeing thousands of untagged ways most of which are buildings, far more than I would expect. If you're running a project in Chad that includes mapping buildings you may wish to check the map in a week or two as I continue to tag un

Re: [HOT] Buildings in Chad

2017-07-15 Thread john whelan
lot better. Cheerio John On 15 July 2017 at 03:19, Bjoern Hassler wrote: > Hi John, > > Let me know if I can do anything scripting-wise. > > Bjoern > > > On 15 July 2017 at 02:49, john whelan wrote: > >> I'm looking at Chad by bringing 10% of the country at

Re: [HOT] Buildings in Chad

2017-07-15 Thread john whelan
which means helpers can find you on > the basis of your OSM id. > > For your use case, it would be possible to get the script to produce a > list of non-square buildings, which could then load loaded into JOSM, and > cycled through with the TODO plugin... > > Also, any support i

Re: [HOT] Buildings in Chad

2017-07-16 Thread john whelan
wrote: > Hi John, > > Could you send me example coordinates or task number? > > Bjoern > > > On 15 Jul 2017 16:37, "john whelan" wrote: > > I suspect your standards are much higher than mine. Basically I ignore if > a building is square or not, in ge

Re: [HOT] small round buildings

2017-07-23 Thread john whelan
Does it matter? If you're mapping from imagery then surely they become building=yes in either case. Cheerio John On 23 July 2017 at 18:05, Vao Matua wrote: > They look like small dwellings similar to the ones in pastoral communities > in Ethiopia. > However, I do not have on the ground experie

Re: [HOT] residential roads within built-up areas

2017-07-26 Thread john whelan
Lusaka is one of the few places in Africa that has boots on the ground, many of which have backgrounds in GIS. I think there have been at least twenty active local mappers mapping here so I'd be inclined to leave the tagging up to the locals. Cheerio John On 26 July 2017 at 07:20, Bjoern Hassler

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