2009/12/26 DaveN
> Bottom line is that you click on a hugin download link and you get
> autopano sift in the download. Saying a disk image isn't really a
> package ring as being believable.
>
>
A disk image is definitely different even though you feel it is the same.
And the Hugin for OSX "CD" i
2009/12/25 DaveN
> > Could you be more specific? Which hugin download includes
> autopano-sift-C?
> > Getting source and compile yourself is not the same as download.
>
> The Mac downloads include it in the compiled version downloads (tested
> 0.8.0 and 2009.4.0). I have not tested the Windows p
Am Freitag 25 Dezember 2009 schrieb DaveN:
> It is very disingenuous to claim autopano-sift-C has nothing to do
> with Hugin and then include it in the Hugin download.
Could you be more specific? Which hugin download includes autopano-sift-C?
Getting source and compile yourself is not the same as
ion has been asked if they are
> still free when the pano's themselves are sold. In other words, does the
> sale of the pano's constitute commercial use of Hugin.
>
> I'm sure this will be resolved in the coming weeks.
>
> > Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:42:37 +
&g
On Wed 23-Dec-2009 at 22:42 +, michael crane wrote:
>can somebody clear this up.
>is hugin using copyrighted/ patented stuff when it shouldn't ?
>regards
Everything in Hugin is copyrighted.
If you use autopano-sift-C (which isn't part of Hugin), you get a
big warning every time you use it te
the question has been asked if they are still
free when the pano's themselves are sold. In other words, does the sale of the
pano's constitute commercial use of Hugin.
I'm sure this will be resolved in the coming weeks.
> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:42:37 +0000
> Subject: Re:
can somebody clear this up.
is hugin using copyrighted/ patented stuff when it shouldn't ?
regards
mick
2009/12/23 Roger Howard :
>
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:03:07 -0800 (PST), DaveN
> wrote:
>> No. My bottom line is that if you use a patented algorithm to make a
>> panorama for profit witho
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:03:07 -0800 (PST), DaveN
wrote:
> No. My bottom line is that if you use a patented algorithm to make a
> panorama for profit without paying the inventor of the algorithm, can
> you be outraged if your panorama is used by others without payment to
> you.
Yes, if you unders
Interesting discussion no nabble.
I noticed there the same comment, that patent holders allow others to use their
patent for free.
I'd suggest that Hugin take the initiative and contact the patent holders and
get an authorization to use the algorithm free of charge. This is the easiest
solut
Why do you need everyones opinion
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > it. Not that I am against patented products, but against childish
> > > > > > position of individual: "If majority doing it this way it is good
> > > >
t; > would be different. What you are going to do with this general public
> > > > support? Show group's threads in a court?
> >
> > > > Leonid
> >
> > > > Dale Beams wrote:
> > > > > The question is who is SURF patented by? By a university or an
y patents within the linux/gpl community. However there
> > > are organizations who have purchased and protect those patents against
> > > litigation, opening up use for everyone.
> >
> > > Patents are being used to protect open source, gpl, and linux in
>
eryone.
>
> Patents are being used to protect open source, gpl, and linux in
> general, and still allow the use of those patents to anybody.
>
> Isn't this the same thing that SIFT and SURF have done?
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:19:25 +0100
> &
open source, gpl, and linux in general, and
still allow the use of those patents to anybody.
Isn't this the same thing that SIFT and SURF have done?
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:19:25 +0100
> Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Moral questions
> From: l.jirkov...@gmail.com
&
2009/12/18 DaveN :
> I thought SURF was also patented but maybe it is only the
> implementation that is copyrighted. I don't know for sure. It would
> be nice to see a patent-free control generator for Hugin though. I am
> not a programmer so I wouldn't be much help. Here is the wiki page:
>
>
2009/12/18 DaveN :
> < infringement issues?>>
>
> It is something that has been bothering me for a long time and never
> really has been discussed in the open. To me, the inventor of the
> SIFT algorithm deserves some benefit for his work but isn't really
> getting it. Sure SIFT has his Universit
On that note, have you considered the SURF algorithm?
It appears that SURF is closed source as well, but there appears to be an
"OpenSURF".
This would be an interesting research topic. One of Hugin's goals is to produce
it's own auto cp detector or use a GPL version of one.
Drop a note back o
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:43 AM, DaveN wrote:
> 'I follow the rules I see fit, ignore the ones
> I don't see as fit, and have no issue in expecting that my work will
> not be infringed upon.
Repeating your argument doesn't make it any less off-topic. Neither
does making up a straw-man.
DR
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2009/12/18 DaveN
> The Mac version of Hugin does include the auto control point
> generators in the download. I believe you are correct that China
> technically does have copyright laws but they are rarely enforced as
> you note. For all practical purposes, there is no patent or copyright
> pro
It's not a novel idea, it's prior art. Putting pieces together to create a
compisition has been done for ages. One of the earliest examples is the string
grid an artist created to paint with, all around a single nodule point.
One could even claim that Micheangelo's painting of the sistine cha
> Regardless, I seem to be beating a dead horse here.
Yes.
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This has nothing to do with hugin.
Free / nonfree software can be pirated everywhere in the world, what
ever the local laws allowing this or not.
Using an illegal copy of a software, being photoshop, hugin, windows or
God know what is usually the user's responsability.
For the materials producted
Panoramic photos have been around for some time. We've got a photo here in a
furniture store of downtown that was produced in 1890.
Panoramic photos would not have a patent, or if it did would be defeated by
prior art.
A methodology might be considered patentable, but then you would have to p
I have the feeling you're not into discussing hugin at all.
DaveN schrieb am 18.12.09 02:08:
> Copyright is largely ignored in China and other places so can people
> in those places copy your images or repackage Hugin?
>
> Bruno: Where is the other place to discuss Hugin where I can find
> answe
An interesting post.
In the US, fansubs, ie people subbing japanese anime and other foriegn movies
traditionally have been ignored in part because the content had not yet been
copyrighted in the US. Recently international trade agreements have changed
that. Now anime produced in Japan is copyr
Patents hold no ground in Europe.
The Berne convention can still be applied, what ever the licence you
choose for your image.
And to DaveN comment, I ain't infringing any patent while located in
Europe, so the moralistic opinion is bogus, but copyright laws can still
be applied in Europe.
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