z/OS and z/OS.e maintenance/licencing

2005-08-31 Thread Peter Gammage
Cross posted to LPAR-Pricing, ISVCosts and IBM-Main lists As I understand it licencing z/OS.e works out significantly cheaper than z/OS, however in a traditional z/OS shop that is looking to bring in new workloads the trade off is that you have to maintain multiple builds - one for z/OS and one fo

Re: z/OS and z/OS.e maintenance/licencing

2005-08-31 Thread Tom Marchant
z/OS.e is much cheaper than z/OS. It does not require adifferent build, though. You can IPL z/OS and z/OS.e in the same sysplex from the same IPL volume. In order to IPL z/OS.e, you must (IIRC): 1. update IFAPRDxx 2. use an LPAR name of ZOSE 3. run on a z800 or z890 I hope this helps, Tom M

Re: JES2 Checkpoint dataset help

2005-08-31 Thread Tom Marchant
Ha! That's a good one. Thanks for the laugh! Tom Marchant --- "Horein, Steve , HAR-ORL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Something about last > initialization occurring in 1935 (no joke!). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / ar

Re: z/os.e: request for advice

2005-08-31 Thread Tom Marchant
IIRC the Ts&Cs for zOS.e specify no COBOL. --- Hal Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is nothing really remarkable, except the TSO USERMAX is 10, and > you have to code up a little front end to run COBOL programs. And it > costs only about 10% of full z/os. --

Re: z/os.e: request for advice

2005-08-31 Thread Tuco Bonno
yeah, that's pretty much what i concluded to on my own; just wanted to make double sure ;; thanks for responding == /s/ tuco bonno graduate, College of Conflict Management, University of Southeast Asia. "I partied on the Ho Chi Minh trail" >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/30/200

Re: z/OS and z/OS.e maintenance/licencing

2005-08-31 Thread R.S.
Tom Marchant wrote: z/OS.e is much cheaper than z/OS. It does not require adifferent build, though. You can IPL z/OS and z/OS.e in the same sysplex from the same IPL volume. In order to IPL z/OS.e, you must (IIRC): 1. update IFAPRDxx 2. use an LPAR name of ZOSE 3. run on a z800 or z890

Disaster Declarations due to Katrina

2005-08-31 Thread Timothy Sipples
I have absolutely no inside information, but I did a Google search prior to the hurricane to determine New Orleans's largest employers (out of personal curiosity). Hibernia National Bank is one of them, and they do have a mainframe (according to another Google search). I would think there'd have

Re: z/os.e: request for advice

2005-08-31 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Marchant > > IIRC the Ts&Cs for zOS.e specify no COBOL. The restriction is not quite that broad: One cannot legally do COBOL *development* on z.OS.e, but one *CAN* legally run pre-compiled COBOL programs that mee

Re: RMF Spreadsheet Report

2005-08-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Also, RMF Spreadsheet destroyer is unsupported last I heard though I did get a helpful response or two via email. ... There's an awful lot of help regarding it, for an unsupported package. -teD In God we Trust! All others bring data! -- W. Edwards Deming -

Fw: z/os.e: request for advice

2005-08-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Another user with a REPLYTO problem. -Original Message- From: "Ted MacNEIL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:20:22 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: z/os.e: request for advice >IIRC the Ts&Cs for zOS.e specify no COBOL. ... No COBOL compiler. You can run COBOL programmes;

Re: z/OS and z/OS.e maintenance/licencing

2005-08-31 Thread John Eells
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cross posted to LPAR-Pricing, ISVCosts and IBM-Main lists As I understand it licencing z/OS.e works out significantly cheaper than z/OS, however in a traditional z/OS shop that is looking to bring in new workloads the trade off is that you have to maintain multiple build

Re: Point-and-shoot

2005-08-31 Thread Steve Comstock
Paul Gilmartin wrote: In a recent note, Ed Gould said: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:06:05 -0500 Just don't expect a point and shoot to give you a understandable messages and codes:-) I hadn't considered it, nor mentioned it. But, now, I don't see why not. HLASM already produces suit

Re: Deleted VVDS

2005-08-31 Thread Natasa Savinc
First we tried to recover VVDS from dump, but got the message that it wasn't there. In the end we worked our way around it somehow - defined new catalog, merged entries from the old catalog into the new one and copied everything to another volume. Thank you all, Natasa

SMF reg 110 - Help

2005-08-31 Thread Eduardo Toledo
Hi guys, In our shop, we are running CICS TS 2.2, on a z/OS 1.4. Our monitor ( the Mainview) tell us that we run something around of 200MM transactions a day in average. How can I collect (using th MCT concepts), extract (the easy part) and print the statistics SMF reports type 110 (CICS sta

Binder question.

2005-08-31 Thread McKown, John
I had this asked of me recently and I cannot think of a simple way to do it. Is there some way to stop the binder from adding/replacing a program object in a library if the binder detects any kind of an error which would result in a return code > 4? I know of the STORENX=NO, but that does not do w

Re: RMF Spreadsheet Report

2005-08-31 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/31/2005 1:47:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nobody around my previous employer's place would explain to me how they decided on their goal mode settings. Guess they were keeping valuable >> She's also got a product Goal Tender that will take S

Re: Binder question.

2005-08-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, McKown, John said: > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:36:38 -0500 > > I had this asked of me recently and I cannot think of a simple way to do > it. Is there some way to stop the binder from adding/replacing a program > object in a library if the binder detects any kind of an e

Re: Deleted VVDS

2005-08-31 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Did you try to restore the VVDS (logical restore) via dsname from your dump? Keep in mind that you need to specify the fully qualified dsn of the VVDS dataset. So you can't restore a VVDS together with other datasets in one RESTORE command. Werner Natasa Savinc wrote: First we tried to recov

OSA-ICC console question

2005-08-31 Thread Anne Crabtree
We are using OSA-ICC as a controller for our consoles on a z890 machine. We have four lpars and the pc is set up with four console sessions and four 3270 sessions. This morning, one console session was frozen, but the others seemed fine. We wanted to take only that one console offline, but were

Re: Binder question.

2005-08-31 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/31/2005 8:37:27 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What happened is that a "bad" module (binder rc>4) replaced a "good" module. The programmer is asking why would the binder do this? I don't really have a good answer other than "that is the way it wor

Re: Binder question.

2005-08-31 Thread Charles Mills
>>Check your binder PARMs and the entry point you're using. LET will replace bad with good. NOLET replaces but marks as not executable. Neither is what he wants. He wants "not replace." Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / sign

Re: Binder question.

2005-08-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Ed Finnell said: > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:24:39 EDT > > Check your binder PARMs and the entry point you're using. LET > will replace bad with good. NOLET replaces but marks as not executable. > IIRC, as long as you have the (R) option on the NAME statement, the Bind

Re: Binder question.

2005-08-31 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > > [ snip ] > > So, if I want to get a XREF map so I can find what CSECT > contains my UNRESOLVED, I must specify STORENX. But I'd > really prefer to be able to diagnose the problem without > stori

Re: OSA-ICC console question

2005-08-31 Thread Pohlen Mailinglist
You can vary offline a console just like it was an old fashioned 3174 console. The &SYSNAME.060 is replaced by e. g. ZOS1060 assumed that the defined system name is ZOS1. This name you should use for the VARY command. But I think, that the problem is in the emulation session. I would try to restart

Encryption

2005-08-31 Thread Surfer SIC
Does anyone know of a method/product that would encrypt VSAM data on disk. We are testing the FDR produuct for off-site tapes and based on my experience with Innovation I don't expect any issues. I've been asked about encrypting CICS VSAM data. My response was that the application can make ICSF

Re: Encryption

2005-08-31 Thread R.S.
Surfer SIC wrote: Does anyone know of a method/product that would encrypt VSAM data on disk. We are testing the FDR produuct for off-site tapes and based on my experience with Innovation I don't expect any issues. I've been asked about encrypting CICS VSAM data. My response was that the applic

Re: z/OS and z/OS.e maintenance/licencing

2005-08-31 Thread Ward, Mike S
We do it here off of one res volume. We currently run Z/os and Z/os.e in a non parallel sysplex mode. We do have different HFS files for both and then there are also different parmlib members. You also have to set up GRS, but other than what's been mentioned it's pretty easy. -Original Message

HSM Recall Space Required?

2005-08-31 Thread Chase, John
Hi, All, We have need to identify how much DASD space would be required to recall "X" number of datasets, but do not need to recall them all at once. Does anybody know whether: (1) The required space is stored somewhere (e.g., in the MCDS); and (2) That information is available (non-OCO), so we

Re: HSM Recall Space Required?

2005-08-31 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Yes it is in the mcds. You can get it by doing a DFHSM LIST command ie "list dsname(the.migrated.dataset.name) mcds" HTH Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@B

Re: HSM Recall Space Required?

2005-08-31 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. > > Yes it is in the mcds. You can get it by doing a DFHSM LIST > command ie "list dsname(the.migrated.dataset.name) mcds" Excellent! Thanks, -jc- -

Re: SMF reg 110 - Help

2005-08-31 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:22:21 -0300, Eduardo Toledo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi guys, > >In our shop, we are running CICS TS 2.2, on a z/OS 1.4. Our monitor ( the >Mainview) tell us that we run something around of 200MM transactions a day >in average. >How can I collect (using th MCT concepts),

Re: HSM Recall Space Required?

2005-08-31 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:54:50 -0500, Pommier, Rex R. wrote: >Yes it is in the mcds. You can get it by doing a DFHSM LIST command ie >"list dsname(the.migrated.dataset.name) mcds" > Or from IDCAMS "DCOLLECT MIGRATEDATA". Norbert Friemel ---

Re: Spencer Katt has some comments on SHARE

2005-08-31 Thread Charles Mills
The print Eweek and presumably the Web version also has a pretty decent SHARE-triggered Eric Lundquist column on Platform Solutions. A little bit of the usual "gosh, who'd a-thunk, the mainframe ain't dead after all" but all-in-all a decent column. Little or no technology that would be news to this

Re: Encryption

2005-08-31 Thread Charles Mills
Shouldn't first be What are your business goals? What threat are you trying to protect against? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Encryp

Re: Fw: COBOL callable services?

2005-08-31 Thread Gil, Victor x28091
B) Not necessarily. Working storage of a COBOL program complied with DATA(31) may define data residing below 16M if ALL31 is set to OFF [IBM-supplied default]. This is achieved using the EXTERNAL attribute as in the following code snippet 01 BELOW EXTERNAL.

Re: Point-and-shoot (was: Re: Missing source code)

2005-08-31 Thread Ed Gould
On Aug 31, 2005, at 12:41 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: In a recent note, Ed Gould said: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:06:05 -0500 Just don't expect a point and shoot to give you a understandable messages and codes:-) I hadn't considered it, nor mentioned it. But, now, I don't see why not.

Article: The True Value of Mainframe Security

2005-08-31 Thread Timothy Sipples
This link probably won't fit on one line, but it's an excellent article IMHO: http://www.eservercomputing.com/ME2/Audiences/dirmod.asp?sid=BCF4DE820EA64A858FB46EECB7C00BB4&nm=&type=Publishing&mod=Publications%3A%3AArticle&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&AudID=174DB902288C4970A30C71C9427313A7&

Re: Article: The True Value of Mainframe Security

2005-08-31 Thread John P Kalinich
"the first centralized security system, Customer Information Control System (CICS), was introduced on the S/390." This is news to me. I always thought CICS was an online transaction system which was introduced on the S/370 or even earlier. JC, feel free to chime in. Regards, John Kalinich Compu

Re: Article: The True Value of Mainframe Security

2005-08-31 Thread John Baker
Actually, CICS was available for OS/360. John P Baker Software Engineer "the first centralized security system, Customer Information Control System (CICS), was introduced on the S/390." This is news to me. I always thought CICS was an online transaction system which was introduced on the S/370

Re: Article: The True Value of Mainframe Security

2005-08-31 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Baker > > Actually, CICS was available for OS/360. > > John P Baker > Software Engineer > > "the first centralized security system, Customer Information > Control System (CICS), was introduced on the S/390." >

Re: Article: The True Value of Mainframe Security

2005-08-31 Thread Kirk Talman
That site has been scrubbed of all CICS information. "Chase, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/31/2005 1:31 PM ... For a fairly complete history of CICS development from inception to present day, surf to and cruise the "history" links. ... ---

Re: Article: The True Value of Mainframe Security

2005-08-31 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kirk Talman > > That site has been scrubbed of all CICS information. > > "Chase, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/31/2005 1:31 PM ... > For a fairly complete history of CICS development from > inception to present day, su

Re: SMF reg 110 - Help

2005-08-31 Thread Rob Wunderlich
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:22:21 -0300, Eduardo Toledo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi guys, > >In our shop, we are running CICS TS 2.2, on a z/OS 1.4. Our monitor ( the >Mainview) tell us that we run something around of 200MM transactions a day >in average. >How can I collect (using th MCT concepts),

Re: Encryption

2005-08-31 Thread Surfer SIC
The business goal? The description I've received is "a company wide committee is setting the requirements - then telling the data center they have to find answers." So I can't state a real business goal. SOX etc. is probably driving this, whether it should be or not. It is financial data. I am

Re: Article: The True Value of Mainframe Security

2005-08-31 Thread John Baker
I was responding only to the idea that CICS was introduced on the S/390. As for the idea that CICS was the first centralized security system, that is obviously absurd. It can be argued that with its internal security features, CICS provided the first "secure" transaction processing environment.

Re: Article: The True Value of Mainframe Security

2005-08-31 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > "the first centralized security system, Customer Information Control > System (CICS), was introduced on the S/390." > > This is news to me. I always thought CICS was an online transaction > system which was introduced on the S/370 or even earlier. JC, feel > free to ch

Re: HSM Recall Space Required?

2005-08-31 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/31/2005 11:05:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or from IDCAMS "DCOLLECT MIGRATEDATA". >> Thanks. Think Lynette Pope even posted a SAS pgm to do a breakout but can't find the reference. Maybe it was ES/J but can't find it.

Re: Fw: COBOL callable services?

2005-08-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>may define data residing below 16M if ALL31 is set to OFF [IBM-supplied default]. ... IBM recommends ALL31 to be set to on, for overhead reasons. I have always hated a default set against recommendations, which IBM does all the time. -teD In God we Trust! All others bring data! -- W. Edwards

Re: Article: The True Value of Mainframe Security

2005-08-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>This is news to me. I always thought CICS was an online transaction system which was introduced on the S/370 or even earlier. ... S/360 -- 1969 (or was it '67?) I always wonder about the reliability of an article that has such glaring errors in it. -teD In God we Trust! All others bring da

Re: Binder question.

2005-08-31 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/31/2005 10:13:20 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, if I want to get a XREF map so I can find what CSECT contains my UNRESOLVED, I must specify STORENX. But I'd really prefer to be able to diagnose the problem without storing the bad load module.

Re: IEFUSI question

2005-08-31 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 08/29/2005 12:11:24 PM: > > Does IEFUSI run under the same TCB as the subsequent job step TCB? I > need > > to > > get control in a job step before the job step program starts > executing, > > and > > create a name/token pair at the task level that a progra

Re: Article: The True Value of Mainframe Security

2005-08-31 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > "the first centralized security system, Customer Information Control > System (CICS), was introduced on the S/390." > > This is news to me. I always thought CICS was an online transaction > system which was introduced on the S/370 or even earlier. JC, feel > free to ch

Re: Article: The True Value of Mainframe Security

2005-08-31 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > S/360 -- 1969 (or was it '67?) > > I always wonder about the reliability of an article that has such > glaring errors in it. this reference will tend to also give the pre-product history http://www.yelavich.com but as undergraduate in '69 i was shooting b

Converting from IBM VTS and Native tape library.

2005-08-31 Thread John Benik
We are in the process of converting from an IBM tape environment to an STK tape. I know with IBM the libraries etc are setup in SMS and a lot of the library functions can be handled through SMS. Even though we will not be the ones responsible for the changes we would like to get a good understand

IEFC642I EXCESSIVE PARAMETER LENGTH ON THE EXEC STATEMENT

2005-08-31 Thread Helio
Friends I am installing WDZ (Websphere Developer for zSeries) following instructions the Program Directory for WebSphere Studio Enterprise Developer Options for z/OS, I executed the Customizing the USS Remote Build Server and when I make the verification the installation of the USS Build Serv

Re: Converting from IBM VTS and Native tape library.

2005-08-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Are there any papers/presentations that somebody may have done on this? ... This is a first for me! I have seen from product 'X' to IBM, but never from IBM to 'X'. I don't think you're going to find much. -teD In God we Trust! All others bring data! -- W. Edwards Deming

Re: IEFC642I EXCESSIVE PARAMETER LENGTH ON THE EXEC STATEMENT

2005-08-31 Thread Alan C. Field
The PARM= field cannot exceed 100 characters. There are rules described in the JCL reference manual for extending parms involving quotes and parens "(" and ")" This is probably your problem. Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / s

Re: IEFC642I EXCESSIVE PARAMETER LENGTH ON THE EXEC STATEMENT

2005-08-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
JCL allows a maximum of 100 characters for PARM= You are going to have to determine what is causing it to be longer. -teD In God we Trust! All others bring data! -- W. Edwards Deming -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archi

Re: IEFC642I EXCESSIVE PARAMETER LENGTH ON THE EXEC STATEMENT

2005-08-31 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:59:00 -0300, Helio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: PGM=BPXBATCH,DYNAMNBR=30,REGION=7400K, > //PARM='SH /usr/lpp/EnterpriseDeveloper > // /BuildServer/ccubldw.sh > // 1125503998 1' I think that when the parm is between

Re: IEFC642I EXCESSIVE PARAMETER LENGTH ON THE EXEC STATEMENT

2005-08-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Helio said: > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:59:00 -0300 > > 2 //RUNPGM EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,DYNAMNBR=30,REGION=7400K, >//PARM='SH /usr/lpp/EnterpriseDeveloper >// /BuildServer/ccubldw.sh >// 1125503

Re: Most effective BUFNO?

2005-08-31 Thread Joel Wolpert
We have a file in which BUFNO=250 is specified on the JCL. The LRECL=260 and the BLKSIZE=27820. Is there any disadvantage to such a large BUFNO in terms of impacting job elapsed time. Thanks, Joel Wolpert Director - Performance and Capacity Planning [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: Converting from IBM VTS and Native tape library.

2005-08-31 Thread Clark, Kevin D, HRC-Alexandria/EDS
John, As TED stated: You may be the first.. You may want to document and shared later I would think the TMC would be a concern of you are change 3950 tape sizes, CA-1 COPYCAT should help Kevin Clark -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: OSA-ICC console question

2005-08-31 Thread Clark, Kevin D, HRC-Alexandria/EDS
-- That should have worked fine if the problem was with MVS. But is the session software on the PC has a problem, then stopping and starting just that session should do ( with the MVS V CN) . I am about to move my consoles to OSA-ICC. What Software are you using ? Our Current suite consist of QWS

Fw: Fw: COBOL callable services?

2005-08-31 Thread Bill Klein
The default in LE for z/OS V1.7 is: Non-CICS Default: ALL31=((ON),OVR) CICS Default: ALL31=((ON),OVR) See: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/CEEA5160/2.2.2.4 However, 2 paragraphs later, it says, "If you use the default setting ALL31(OFF), ..." http://publibz.bo

Re: Article: The True Value of Mainframe Security

2005-08-31 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:41:01 -0400, Kirk Talman wrote: >That site has been scrubbed of all CICS information. > Then try the "Wayback Machine": http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.yelavich.com/ http://web.archive.org/web/20040203041346/www.yelavich.com/history/toc.htm Norbert Friemel ---

Re: Converting from IBM VTS and Native tape library.

2005-08-31 Thread Mark Zelden
He's not the first, nor the second. :-)I've been invovled in a few VTS to VSM conversions (including my current employer). However, the physical tape was 3490E (not the VSM back end - host drives). The back end for VSM was 9840A or 9840B (curently we use 9840C and 9940B for DR duplexing with

Re: HSM Recall Space Required?

2005-08-31 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/31/2005 2:06:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks. Think Lynette Pope even posted a SAS pgm to do a breakout but can't find the reference. Maybe it was ES/J but can't find it. >> Too much going on. Linnea Nichols posted SAS for dcollect o

Re: Point-and-shoot

2005-08-31 Thread Shane Ginnane
Steve wrote on 31/08/2005 11:00:03 PM: > > > > Now if only Lookat would provide fragment/anchor identifiers ('#') > > for reason codes. > > > That's kinda' the way ChicagoSoft's Quick Ref works; key in > qwsdsf on the command line, move the cursor to anywhere on > the message, press Enter and you'

Re: ADABAS and HDS TrueCopy

2005-08-31 Thread John Krew
We do mirroring of our production Adabas databases on HDS disk storage to our remote DR site. Adabas' restart and autorestart facilities after power outage, etc. is quite reliable. I would also like to point out that in the more recent releases of Adabas two new operator commands - SUSPEND and

H50 V1R3 / Z890 V1R4 Compatability

2005-08-31 Thread John Donnelly
We are moving from 1.3 to 1.4...plan not to be concerned with Exploiatation or Compatability stuff...one simple little H50, two LPARs...to a simple little Z809, two LPARs...worse case is supporting the 1.3 and 1.4 systems in a shared environment... Have coexistence and fallback service for 1.3

Re: Managing /service for SMP/E

2005-08-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/30/2005 at 02:11 PM, Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >AFAIK, it is not possible to do what you are suggesting because >Automount does not work that way. Doesn't work what way? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Missing source code (was: New Cobol Releases (was FASTSRT

2005-08-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/30/2005 at 05:38 PM, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >What a concept! Such information would, of course, be invaluable to >a source language interactive debugger. There used to be several assemblers where the object deck included a copy of the source dec

Re: Article: The True Value of Mainframe Security

2005-08-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/31/2005 at 01:21 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >there was some high integrity mainframe systems deployed in the 60s >and 70s. IBM had RSS and General HoneyBULL had Multics. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position

Re: Article: The True Value of Mainframe Security

2005-08-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/31/2005 at 12:31 PM, "Chase, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> "the first centralized security system, Customer Information >> Control System (CICS), was introduced on the S/390." >I don't recall that CICS was ever offered as a "centralized security >system",

Re: New Cobol Releases (was FASTSRT)

2005-08-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/30/2005 at 02:24 PM, Bill Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >A) As someone who uses a "threaded newsreader", I personally HATE >"internal" comments/replies A threaded newsreader does nothing to establish context for replies to a long article. >Personally, I can't r

Re: Newsgroups

2005-08-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/30/2005 at 05:21 PM, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Sending of message failed. >The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server >failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. >Please verify that your news server

Re: Article: The True Value of Mainframe Security

2005-08-31 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
"Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > IBM had RSS and General HoneyBULL had Multics. multics was on the 5th floor of 545 tech sq. http://www.multicians.org/ cp67 and misc. other stuff http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004o.html#38 SHARE reflections was done by the science center on

Re: Managing /service for SMP/E

2005-08-31 Thread Tom Marchant
You said that I should "Automount OMVS.TARGET.JAVA14 at /service/java/TARGET/usr/lpp/java and use that in your DDDEF." AFAIK, Automount won't extract TARGET from /service/java/TARGET/usr/lpp/java and use that to generate the HFS DSNAME OMVS.TARGET.JAVA14. If you know something that I don't, pleas

Re: HSM Recall Space Required?

2005-08-31 Thread Greg Price
Sounds like the sort of thing I use the $HMLIST TSO command for. It has an ODS operand to direct the output into a data set. Source in CBT file 134 - update it with the dsname of your MCDS. There is also a $HBLIST command to get listings out of the BCDS also. There is also a $HMLISTW command with w

Re: HSM Recall Space Required?

2005-08-31 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/31/2005 9:08:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sounds like the sort of thing I use the $HMLIST TSO command for. It has an ODS operand to direct the output into a data set. Source in CBT file 134 - update it with the dsname of your MCDS. There is a

Re: Fw: New Cobol Releases (was FASTSRT)

2005-08-31 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/29/2005 at 01:08 PM, Bill Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: I guess (but am not even certain of this) that *IF* you have the resources to do a "mass recompile", that it doesn't HURT. However, if doing so (and more importantly making

Re: IEFUSI question

2005-08-31 Thread Paul Schuster
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:27:26 -0400, Jim Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 08/29/2005 >12:11:24 PM: > >> > Does IEFUSI run under the same TCB as the subsequent job step TCB? I >> need >> > to >> > get control in a job step before the job step program starts

FW: ADABAS and HDS TrueCopy

2005-08-31 Thread Sarel Swanepoel
NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice which can be viewed at http://www.sars.gov.za/Email_Disclaimer.pdf Hi All Using SRDF and ADABAS to a remote site, our tests on ADABAS were successful (verified by our DBA's). I did however queried SAG in South Africa and