Re: IBM Press Release: Hannaford Brothers Is Live on System z9

2005-12-07 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Phil Payne wrote: I'm surprised that the first referencable account appears almost three months after FCS and is ostensibly (Computerworld) only a two-way in a range that supposedly includes a 54-way. Nothing better to be proud of? I've heard rumours about catastrophic z9 acceptance, but

Re: START fails no diagnostics!

2005-12-07 Thread William Walsh
Many thanks for the responses to my query. Based on these I changed all the SYSOUT statements for the WebSphere PROCs from SYSOUT=*,SPIN=UNALLOC,FREE=CLOSE to SYSOUT=H. WebSphere came up fine. I reverted back to the previous SYSOUT syntax and WebSphere came up fine again. I have no real

INFOPRINT server for z/OS

2005-12-07 Thread VENET Marie-Claude
hello, I seek people who set up Infoprint server on z/OS ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: DB2 Version 8 on a Flex-ES box.

2005-12-07 Thread R.S.
Timothy Sipples wrote: On this general topic, has anyone else priced z800s lately? A z800 ranges from ~40 (smaller than the smallest Multiprise 3000) to ~630 MIPS with 10 capacity settings over 4 engines. Minimum memory is 8 GB. Runs all software (i.e. it's 64-bit). It's even Parallel

Re: data conversion with cobol

2005-12-07 Thread Julian Levens
All Shmuel Metz wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/05/2005 at 08:49 AM, Daniel Cremieux [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am converting a rexx program to cobol and having this problem . The data is , for example x'0123' and after conversion , it must have the value 123 (decimal) In rexx ,

Re: How to quickly shut down system

2005-12-07 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KRDO 4)
From experience on education systems I'd say the $PJES2 isn't even necessary. I would not subscribe to that. $PJES2 should always be done. If JES2 comes down is another matter. I agree, doing the $PJES2 will not hurt. This makes me belive JES2 is one of the (few?) products that listens for the

Re: START fails no diagnostics!

2005-12-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/06/2005 at 03:00 PM, William Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Have you ever seen a situation where the START command is issued, but the address space fails with no diagnostics: No. How would I know that it had failed without a message to that effect? 05340

Re: Using symbolic in JCL

2005-12-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/04/2005 at 09:56 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Bill's point is not so easily dismissed. So deferring symbol evaluation would significantly erode the serialization and deadlock protection that many production shops depend on. But that's no obstacle to

Re: Using symbolic in JCL

2005-12-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/04/2005 at 10:26 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: But that hierarchy has embraced Rexx, even if at shotgun-point. Partially; it certainly hasn't embraced newer language facilities. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position;

Re: STRNO in DB2 catalog

2005-12-07 Thread R.S.
Avram Friedman wrote: I am a bit confused. Dose the term 'DB2 catalog' in the original posting refer to the ICF catalog that points to data sets of any type or the special set of objects in DB2 that contains DB2 system information. I fankly assumed it was the second case ... IMHO bad

Re: IBM Press Release: Hannaford Brothers Is Live on System z9

2005-12-07 Thread Froberg, David C
Pretty innovative how the handled the COBOL programmer issue: 'But what about the COBOL programmer shortage IBM is predicting? We've skirted the issue by doing all of our COBOL in India where there is virtually an unlimited supply. I can call and have 100 COBOL programmers working on a project

Re: AFP-l FAQ

2005-12-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/06/2005 at 10:37 AM, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'd stay away from the topica site as much as possible. Almost like phising. But maybe that's just me... It's not just you; google for topica in NANA*. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: IBM Press Release: Hannaford Brothers Is Live on System z9

2005-12-07 Thread R.S.
Froberg, David C wrote: Pretty innovative how the handled the COBOL programmer issue: 'But what about the COBOL programmer shortage IBM is predicting? We've skirted the issue by doing all of our COBOL in India where there is virtually an unlimited supply. I can call and have 100 COBOL

Re: IBM Press Release: Hannaford Brothers Is Live on System z9

2005-12-07 Thread Timothy Sipples
I'm surprised that the first referencable account appears almost three months after FCS and is ostensibly (Computerworld) only a two-way in a range that supposedly includes a 54-way. Nothing better to be proud of? Have no idea. Maybe we'll find out together in mid-January from Mark Loughridge.

Re: IBM Press Release: Hannaford Brothers Is Live on System z9

2005-12-07 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Froberg, David C Pretty innovative how the handled the COBOL programmer issue: 'But what about the COBOL programmer shortage IBM is predicting? We've skirted the issue by doing all of our COBOL in India where

Re: INFOPRINT server for z/OS

2005-12-07 Thread Richard Pinion
What would you like know? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/7/2005 3:58 AM hello, I seek people who set up Infoprint server on z/OS ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: INFOPRINT server for z/OS

2005-12-07 Thread VENET Marie-Claude
Is-it the good solution to print on a LPD from transaction CICS that write in a TD queue ? -Message d'origine- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] À la place de Richard Pinion Date: mercredi 7 décembre 2005 14:27 À:IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Objet:

Re: INFOPRINT server for z/OS

2005-12-07 Thread Richard Pinion
I would say yes and we use Infoprint this way. Also, the VPS products from LRS is another possibility. I'm not saying the VPS products are better or worse, only that they are another possibility. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/7/2005 8:52:47 AM Is-it the good solution to print on a LPD from

OUTLIM and IEFUSO

2005-12-07 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KRDO 4)
I'm trying to sort out the impact of various sysout limitating options but the FM is not absolutely clear in every aspect. Comments, corrections and suggestions are welcome. Leaving punched cards aside, there are four JCL/JES parameters that can be used to limit the amount of sysout output from a

Re: START fails no diagnostics!

2005-12-07 Thread Heloisa Soares
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 15:00:51 -, William Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you ever seen a situation where the START command is issued, but the address space fails with no diagnostics: 05340 13:30:58.39 WWALSH 0290 START BBO6ACR,JOBNAME=BBOS001,ENV=CPAC.CPAC.BBOS001 05340 13:30:58.44

Re: AFP-l FAQ

2005-12-07 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 12/7/2005 6:53:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's not just you; google for topica in NANA*. Don't know what the circumstances are that made afp-l use topica, but there is a good bit of developer involvement. There used to be a few AFP

Re: Problem in IMS-DC

2005-12-07 Thread Avram Friedman
Kumar This is a diffrent problem ... First an additional comment about the original discussion based on the many replys I say (I use the digest for this news group) IMS just like many other packages has several ways to specify a value. For MVS DCB can come from many sources like DSCB Program and

ABARS encryption

2005-12-07 Thread Frank Rodriguez
With the announcement of encryption to DFDSS, will ABARS take advantage of this to encrypt its output? This would include encrypting input from DASD and TAPE. Has anyone done this process successfully yet? Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN

Functional replacement for Output-master and XEROX 4850

2005-12-07 Thread Salway, Nigel
Dear friends, I am working on a system which currently receives output via NJE from an AS/400 system. This output is then processed by Output Master and printed on a XEROX 4850 printer. The Output master product is apparently adding AFP-like enhancements to the output before printing. The

Re: ABARS encryption

2005-12-07 Thread DeFabritus, Peter [NCSUS Non-JJ]
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:50:00 -0600, Frank Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the announcement of encryption to DFDSS, will ABARS take advantage of this to encrypt its output? This would include encrypting input from DASD and TAPE. Has anyone done this process successfully yet? Thanks

Cheers: PREFERENCE and KEY8 CSA storage

2005-12-07 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi, Preference from SumTotal Systems, Inc. (was Pathlore) currently allocates user key common storage A Service Pack for release 7.9.1 is planned to be available in January of 2006. The Service Pack for PHOENIX and PREFERENCE includes the following: SNIP Protect use of CSA and ECSA storage.

Re: How to quickly shut down system

2005-12-07 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 12/7/2005 9:41:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why do you believe you have 20-30 minutes to do something? I would look how long can the weakest component stay available: switch or any other interface on the path to devices and then to the mirror

Re: Cheers: PREFERENCE and KEY8 CSA storage

2005-12-07 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Knutson, Sam wrote: ... to fix them and do a quality job of it in a reasonably short time. Jim Mulder made the IgvNoUserKeyCSA DIAG TRAP available in OS/390 V2R6. Using this tool, the pro-active ISVs identified and fixed their issues before you ever saw them. Now you're cheering the

Re: Cheers: PREFERENCE and KEY8 CSA storage

2005-12-07 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Ed, Are you familiar with the Parable of the Prodigal Son:-) You can forgive and cheer a vendor that really didn't understand the problem initially but accepted information, learned, and remediated it once you found the right contacts. IBM would do us all a favor by documenting use of

Re: ABARS encryption

2005-12-07 Thread Robert L. Griffin
Nope. That is for DFSMShsm full volume dumps which are not the same as ABARS even if they do both run thru DFSMShsm. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DeFabritus, Peter [NCSUS Non-JJ] Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005

Re: Cheers: PREFERENCE and KEY8 CSA storage

2005-12-07 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Knutson, Sam wrote: Are you familiar with the Parable of the Prodigal Son:-) You can forgive and cheer a vendor that really didn't understand the problem initially but accepted information, learned, and remediated it once you found the right contacts. Interested ISVs have been privy to

Re: How to quickly shut down system

2005-12-07 Thread Skip Robinson
The reason I would do a $PJES2 is to prevent new work from starting. If you know that the end of the world is imminent, the less still running the better. Otherwise you could have all manner of tasks kicking off at a really unfortunate time. Maybe a simple $P would be even better just to turn off

Re: How to quickly shut down system

2005-12-07 Thread R.S.
TISLER Zaromil wrote: -- snip -- Let's assume the following scenario: Disastrous power outage occured, no alternate power source is available, only UPS battery. Time for battery discharge is approx. 20-30 minutes. -- snip -- Why do you believe you have 20-30 minutes to do

Mainframe to Mainframe FTP

2005-12-07 Thread Singar Arthanarieswaran
We are trying to FTP a large file from mainframe to mainframe. The file has lot of packed fields. We are using BINARY transfer. We have tried all the options including NOWRAPRECORD, RECFM, LRECL combinations, but the file is wrapping the records on the destination. Please note the file is a

Re: How to quickly shut down system

2005-12-07 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
To throw my $.02 in, do you have any non-critical equipment on the UPS that could be powered down ahead of time (non-essential tape, printers, etc) that could possibly extend the UPS uptime duration? I have lived thru this scenario - lost street power and no generator. We were able to extend the

Re: Mainframe to Mainframe FTP

2005-12-07 Thread Frank Krueger
Cause it is variable you can never re-build at destination . You must first change to Fixed-Block bei either using TRSMAIN info here http://techsupport.services.ibm.com/390/trsmain.html to create a DS with LRECL=1024 which can be FTPed - or you may use XMIT with OUTDSN , to create a dataset with

Re: How to quickly shut down system

2005-12-07 Thread R.S.
Pommier, Rex R. wrote: To throw my $.02 in, do you have any non-critical equipment on the UPS that could be powered down ahead of time (non-essential tape, printers, etc) that could possibly extend the UPS uptime duration? I have lived thru this scenario - lost street power and no generator.

Re: Mainframe to Mainframe FTP

2005-12-07 Thread Hal Merritt
The FM suggests MODE E TYPE C. The FM also suggests that Binary (TYPE I) is not appropriate in this situation. Works for me. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Singar Arthanarieswaran Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:59

Re: Mainframe to Mainframe FTP

2005-12-07 Thread Matthew Stitt
I do this all the time. Use TYPE E, MODE B options. Also let the system automatically send the file characteristics and allocated it dynamically. I assume you are going MVS to MVS? On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 21:17:56 +0100, Frank Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cause it is variable you can never

Re: How to quickly shut down system

2005-12-07 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 20:54 +0100, R.S. wrote: Back to the question, what about DB2, which I'm most worried ? I'd like to quiesce all the system activity as much as possible, just to avoid long time for get the DR system ready. I don't want to spent hours to backout uncommited

Re: Mainframe to Mainframe FTP

2005-12-07 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Singar Arthanarieswaran Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Mainframe to Mainframe FTP We are trying to FTP a large file from mainframe to

Re: How to quickly shut down system

2005-12-07 Thread Lock Lyon
R.S., For *SIMPLE* solution that is also *clean* I recommend issuing -STOP DB2 MODE(FORCE) command for each DB2 subsystem. (Command syntax changes based on if you are data sharing or not.) For tasks not currently in DB2 it will post an exit; for tasks in DB2 it will stop during next suspend

Re: Mainframe to Mainframe FTP

2005-12-07 Thread Frank Krueger
Matthew i have tried to often and got errors when doing FTP from MVS to MVS with VBS or U files . I am doing a lot of Studies with SMF Data - the only proven way for me is with fixed length records . And XMIT off course can be used without JES connected - just use XMIT with OUTDSN , then FTP ,

Re: Mainframe to Mainframe FTP

2005-12-07 Thread Hal Merritt
Oops. Got it backward. Sorry. TYPE E MODE C. Use MODE B if the data is already compressed. MODE C usually gives me upwards of 60% compression. MODE B may work better for DFDSS ADRDSU backups. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Commands in JCL

2005-12-07 Thread Steve Comstock
Is there a way to issue an operator command such as Start in a JCL COMMAND statement without causing the system to ask the console operator to allow it or not? I want to issue a series of commands, one to start SMTP, another to submit an email via IEBGENER and the internal reader, and another to

Re: Mainframe to Mainframe FTP

2005-12-07 Thread Hal Merritt
This almost sounds like a network issue. Some misconfigured 'black hole' routers will silently drop packets or otherwise garble the data. Some network folks believe that error reporting is a security risk. Hal. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

SOAP for CICS

2005-12-07 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
I now have SOAP for CICS installed and working. By working I mean I have the sample programs running. I am running this on z/OS 1.4 with CICS TS 2.2. I have noticed that all of the CICS activity runs under the default CICS id. using two transaction ids. Does anyone have experience or

Re: Commands in JCL

2005-12-07 Thread Bob Rutledge
The COMMAND= parameter in the JES2 JOBCLASS(..) statement. I don't know how or whether JES3 does it. Bob Steve Comstock wrote: Is there a way to issue an operator command such as Start in a JCL COMMAND statement without causing the system to ask the console operator to allow it or not? I

Re: Commands in JCL

2005-12-07 Thread Gabe Torres
Steve, I used the JCL below to issue operator commands to all our lpars in the sysplex. You could probably substitute your commands .. Not sure if you will run into RACF issues at your site. gabe //FACGTCMD JOB '2',TORRES,MSGCLASS=Z //SUBMITEXEC PGM=IEBEDIT //SYSUT2DD

Re: Commands in JCL

2005-12-07 Thread R.S.
Steve Comstock wrote: Is there a way to issue an operator command such as Start in a JCL COMMAND statement without causing the system to ask the console operator to allow it or not? I want to issue a series of commands, one to start SMTP, another to submit an email via IEBGENER and the

Re: Mainframe to Mainframe FTP

2005-12-07 Thread Natarajan Mohan
We transfer VB files across LPAR's using FTP without tersing the file. The following options works for us. TYPE E MODE B Thanks Nat -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: Commands in JCL

2005-12-07 Thread Steve Comstock
Bob Rutledge wrote: The COMMAND= parameter in the JES2 JOBCLASS(..) statement. I don't know how or whether JES3 does it. Bob Hmmm. Good thought. I find COMMAND=VERIFY, so I'll try COMMAND=EXECUTE I'll have to re-cycle JES then, right? Or even re-ipl? [I don't care about JES3, since I am

Re: Commands in JCL

2005-12-07 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Commands in JCL Bob Rutledge wrote: The COMMAND= parameter in the JES2 JOBCLASS(..)

Re: Commands in JCL

2005-12-07 Thread Steve Comstock
Gabe Torres wrote: Steve, I used the JCL below to issue operator commands to all our lpars in the sysplex. You could probably substitute your commands .. Not sure if you will run into RACF issues at your site. gabe //FACGTCMD JOB '2',TORRES,MSGCLASS=Z //SUBMITEXEC PGM=IEBEDIT //SYSUT2

Re: FW: Commands in JCL

2005-12-07 Thread Steve Comstock
Cox, Dave wrote: Steve, Curious: Why JCL ? Do you have any automation such as Control-O on your system ? If not, sometimes I will submit commands using a BR14 with $VS commands like so through Control-M scheduler: /*$VS,'F CONTROLO,O=OPER.CNTLO.PRD1.V5.RULES(DB2CICUP)'

Re: Commands in JCL

2005-12-07 Thread Steve Comstock
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Commands in JCL Bob Rutledge wrote: The COMMAND= parameter in the JES2

Re: Commands in JCL

2005-12-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 22:31:59 +0100, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Comstock wrote: Is there a way to issue an operator command such as Start in a JCL COMMAND statement without causing the system to ask the console operator to allow it or not? Yes. It depends on JES2 settings. (I assumed

Re: SOAP for CICS

2005-12-07 Thread Greg Grimm
Use SSL Regards, Greg Grimm Sr. Systems Software Engineer County of Santa Clara (408) 918-7064 NOTICE: This email message and/or its attachments may contain information that is confidential or restricted. It is intended only for individuals named as recipients in the message. If you are

Re: Commands in JCL

2005-12-07 Thread Charles Mills
Or with a command, $T JOBCLASS(E),COMMAND=DISPLAY with COMMAND=VERIFY to set it back. In my experience, it does not work to put this command as the first command of a string of JCL commands because apparently it takes effect too late. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: How to quickly shut down system

2005-12-07 Thread Hal Merritt
The more I think about this, the more I think less is better. Given the amount of time to fully understand the situation, find the procedure (which has never been tested), get a management buy in to pull the trigger, thoughtfully issue the correct commands in the correct sequence (watching for

Re: Commands in JCL

2005-12-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Charles Mills said: Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:39:43 -0500 Or with a command, $T JOBCLASS(E),COMMAND=DISPLAY with COMMAND=VERIFY to set it back. In my experience, it does not work to put this command as the first command of a string of JCL commands because

Re: ftp.emea.ibm.com replaces testcase?

2005-12-07 Thread Hal Merritt
You assume the server is not a PC. I wonder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 11:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ftp.emea.ibm.com replaces testcase? A suitably

Re: ftp.emea.ibm.com replaces testcase?

2005-12-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Hal Merritt said: Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:57:10 -0600 You assume the server is not a PC. I wonder No. Nor do I assume that it's a PC running/not running Linux; only that the FTP server software has (or can be modified to have) some facility comparable to the

Re: Commands in JCL

2005-12-07 Thread Steve Comstock
Charles Mills wrote: Or with a command, $T JOBCLASS(E),COMMAND=DISPLAY with COMMAND=VERIFY to set it back. In my experience, it does not work to put this command as the first command of a string of JCL commands because apparently it takes effect too late. Charles My strategy is: submit

Re: Commands in JCL

2005-12-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Charles Mills said: Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:13:10 -0500 No, no, if the current setting is verify, then the $T command has to be verified. No (fundamental) logical flaw there. Good. But doesn't this, then, fail Steve's requirement (as I perceived it) that he be

EXEC CICS CONVERSE

2005-12-07 Thread Daniel McArdell
Does anybody have any examples (Assembler) of CICS CONVERSE tidy up routines? In particular, I need to know the correct EIB fields to examine and what actions to take based on the values. I understand basically what the fields indicate and what actions to take but I have a program that gets ATCV

'ALLOCATE' a data set in my TSO/E session

2005-12-07 Thread Luo Johnny
I've dwell on some questions for days : 1,In TSO,I use 'listalc status' to find that SYS1.UADS has been allocated to DDNAME 'SYSUADS'. For a test, I issue 'allocate dsn(center.uads) dd(sysuads)' and get the meesage that filename is in use. I resort to manuals and know that to do this I