Re: EXCP with a DEB

2006-08-19 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi Paul, In respect of your query about EXCP with DEB: Hello: Does anyone have any sample code that does I/O (read only) by manually building a DEB? (Bypassing OPEN and CLOSE.) .. I want to be able to read the directory blocks of a PDS via EXCP in this manner. I cannot answer your

Re: EXCP with a DEB

2006-08-19 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
On Saturday 19 August 2006 01:26, Paul Schuster wrote: Does anyone have any sample code that does I/O (read only) by manually building a DEB? (Bypassing OPEN and CLOSE.) See section K0EXCP in ShowMVS which is used to read the first blocks of the PLPA page data set to extract the date of last

Re: EXCP with a DEB

2006-08-19 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 8/19/2006 1:23:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have any sample code that does I/O (read only) by manually building a DEB? (Bypassing OPEN and CLOSE.) I have only general comments and not specific code samples to offer. Of course

Re: EXCP with a DEB

2006-08-19 Thread john gilmore
Bill Fairchild has told you the most important thing you need to know. There are ways to do what you want to do. They would be APARable as z/OS security breaches if they werje described in sufficient detail to be usable. The presence of bank vaults in the world means that there must also be

z/OS security (was RE: EXCP with a DEB)

2006-08-19 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john gilmore Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 9:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXCP with a DEB Bill Fairchild has told you the most important thing you need to know. There

Re: Greatest Software?

2006-08-19 Thread Robert Justice
The greatest software has to obviously be Datacom from C/A. . I don't understand why this wasn't mentioned earlier than this. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: 27x132?

2006-08-19 Thread Edward Jaffe
Kuredjian, Michael wrote: Is it possible to display more than 27x132 characters at a time through a 3270 emulator? For users that need to use TSO/ISPF, I recommend 51x80 primary (default) screen size and either 51x132 or 62x132 alternate screen size. Once APAR* OA17477* closes, I will

Back Doors (was: EXCP with a DEB)

2006-08-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, john gilmore said: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:14:20 + There are ways to do what you want to do. They would be APARable as z/OS security breaches if they werje described in sufficient detail to be usable. The presence of bank vaults in the world means that

Re: z/OS security (was RE: EXCP with a DEB)

2006-08-19 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 8/19/2006 10:22:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The only security breach would be granting authorization to an adversary to use an APF library or installing a user SVC. That's not a z/OS issue; it's site policy issue. By definition, an

Re: EXCP with a DEB

2006-08-19 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
On Saturday 19 August 2006 11:14, john gilmore wrote: There are ways to do what you want to do. They would be APARable as z/OS security breaches if they were described in sufficient detail to be usable. What you describe is security through obscurity. I believe most people on this list

Re: Greatest Software?

2006-08-19 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/19/2006 9:12:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There were, although Micro-soft [sic] was quite early to the party because they produced the BASIC implementation for the Altair, arguably the world's first personal computer. (There's some debate

ENTERPRISE PL/I Internals Skill

2006-08-19 Thread Reinhold Lehmann
Is here anyone with good knowledge about internals of Enterprise PL/I?? Before Enterprise PL/I ALL PL/I Versions uses the first two Bytes of the DSA resp. CEEDSA for Flags (i.e.: Dummy DSA, Begin-, On-Unit, Proc-DSA etc.). But since Enterprise these Bytes are unused. I have an Module which

Re: Greatest Software?

2006-08-19 Thread Eric N. Bielefeld
Are you kidding? We had CA Datacom installed for some CA product that we never used. Then, I was going to upgrade CA11, and I found out that CA Datacom was required for that. I installed the current version of Datacom at the time, but never got it working before we stopped upgrading any of

Re: Greatest Software?

2006-08-19 Thread Robert Justice
Yes, I am kidding, check my previous posts on datacom for exactly (well, maybe not exactly, this is a public forum after all), how I feel about it. . datacom, the database of choice for large corporations like enron and worldcom - Original Message - From: Eric N. Bielefeld [EMAIL

Re: Greatest Software?

2006-08-19 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
On Saturday 19 August 2006 12:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The greatest software has to obviously be Datacom from C/A. . Perhaps it would help it you told us why you think so? BTW, Datacom was developed by ADR, not CA. I don't understand why this wasn't mentioned earlier than this. Perhaps

Re: Greatest Software?

2006-08-19 Thread Eric N. Bielefeld
Robert, It's hard to remember just what everyone says about every product. That might be a good thing to keep in mind when saying something tongue in cheek, myself included. With the number of people on this list who post regularly, it's hard to remember just what each person said on a

Re: Greatest Software?

2006-08-19 Thread Chuck Arney
Well, actually Datacom (both DB and the long forgotten DC) was developed by Insyte Datacom before they were acquired by ADR. And, Insyte Datacom was previously Computer Information Management (CIM), just for the complete history. :) Chuck Arney illustro Systems International, LLC

Re: Greatest Software?

2006-08-19 Thread Robert Justice
not a problem. I completely agree with you ...i.e., I couldn't see any reason for installing the Datacom product other than CA wanted people to use it so they required its use. I wasn't very impressed with what I saw of it. however, Not very impressed with datacom is a severe understatement

Re: Greatest Software?

2006-08-19 Thread Ed Gould
On Aug 19, 2006, at 1:46 PM, Robert Justice wrote: Yes, I am kidding, check my previous posts on datacom for exactly (well, maybe not exactly, this is a public forum after all), how I feel about it. . datacom, the database of choice for large corporations like enron and worldcom

Re: Greatest Software?

2006-08-19 Thread Robert Justice
no they have not, you still need to run datacom to replace two ca11 files, one pds, and one vsam. Instead of saying here, make this one a pdse, and make this one an extended vsam format vsam, (and then maybe actually having c/a fix their world famous jehf lockout problem), c/a in it's

EXCP with a DEB

2006-08-19 Thread john gilmore
Gilbert Saint-Flour writes: What you describe is security through obscurity. I believe most people on this list agree that it is an ineffective way to protect a computer system. and he may well be right that they do, although how he knows this is not clear to me. His view is

Re: EXCP with a DEB

2006-08-19 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
john gilmore wrote: Gilbert Saint-Flour writes: What you describe is security through obscurity. I believe most people on this list agree that it is an ineffective way to protect a computer system. and he may well be right that they do, although how he knows this is not clear to me. I

Re: Rexx Warts

2006-08-19 Thread Thomas Berg
== Paul Gilmartin == wrote2006-08-18 16:28: In a recent note, Thomas Berg said: Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:43:12 +0200 Yes, but at least regarding REXX I haven't found any mentionable wartifications . Do You think of any specific points ? o Absence of construct to

Re: The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS???

2006-08-19 Thread Thomas Berg
== Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) == wrote2006-08-18 22:27: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/18/2006 at 03:43 PM, Thomas Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Yes, but at least regarding REXX I haven't found any mentionable wartifications. Do You think of any specific points ? Quite a few. See

Re: The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS???

2006-08-19 Thread Thomas Berg
Interesting. I knew that VM had to use some special instructions but not much more. Thomas Berg == Thompson, Steve (SCI TW) == wrote2006-08-18 17:15: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Berg Sent: Friday,

Re: Rexx Warts

2006-08-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Thomas Berg said: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:24:19 +0200 o Absence of construct to pass arguments by reference. Right. Although I only really missed it when returning results sometimes. Well, yes. That would be its use. o Absence of facility to enumerate

Re: EXCP with a DEB

2006-08-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, john gilmore said: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:28:56 + I have not exploited these weaknesses for fun or profit, and I will not do so, but I cannot as a practical matter spend time writing up a PMR every There are so many? time I identify a possible security

Re: Greatest Software?

2006-08-19 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:33:48 +0900, Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shmuel Metz writes: Weren't there other early BASIC compiler/interpreter systems with small footprints? There were, although Micro-soft [sic] was quite early to the party because they produced the BASIC implementation

Re: EXCP with a DEB

2006-08-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/19/2006 at 12:26 AM, Paul Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hello: Does anyone have any sample code that does I/O (read only) by manually building a DEB? (Bypassing OPEN and CLOSE.) EXHIBIT and MVTDEBE did that; the latter should be on one of the mods tapes. But why

Re: RES: JES2 SPOOLDEF

2006-08-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/18/2006 at 07:01 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Considering you can only get 59 volumes on a multi-volume dataset 64 doesn't make sense. It makes perfect sense if you know anything about JES2. You're making an unwarranted assumption about JES2;

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-19 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:21:49 +0800, Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks BOB and TOM briefly explanation..thanks again... Under non-sms managed, we have to allocate some double journal VSAM file into different volumes such as IBMA01, IBMB01, (for performance purpose) In SMS managed, the two

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Are you sure you still need to ensure that these two data sets go to different volumes for performance reasons? If it is a concern on today's DASD, you should be looking at other techniques to improve performance, such as striped data sets. I agree! With Cache, PAV, buffers, faster DASD, you

DFHSM Question

2006-08-19 Thread Ed Gould
A *LONG* time ago we had a user who created BDAM LIKE datasets. At the time we could not back these dataset up with any known utilities except for the ones supplied by the vendor. When we looked at (at the time HSM) it didn't look like it supported calling a user program to backup these data