I think you are a "bit confused". I don't think that those are EVER "LE"
options. They look (to me) as if they are a combination of compiler
(possibly COBOL) and Binder options. Also, I haven't ever heard of any shops
(in the last decade or so) that are concerned about compile or bind-time
"perfo
It looks like you have the generalized MPF command processing exit
installed. It requires that you have the SYS1.MPF.COMMANDS dataset and
that it doesn't get archived by HSM or ABR.
All you need to do is restore the dataset and restart the started task
that you installed with generalized MPF t
That's where I'll mount it, I was just some concerned about mounting
an uplevel HFS on a downlevel system. The fallback/coexistence isn't
clear to me for this case.
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Anyone have experience if we turn off the XREF, MAP options. Will it
improved the overall complie job performance?
Any comment will be appreciated.
Tommy
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production data and that an organization may n
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I
was the naively "smart" one - had too quickly keyed up a
SCRATCH VTOC,VOL=2314=whtevr,SYS
card for my IEHPROGM cards. The "too quickly" means that
the comma befo
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I think Darren recently changed the web interface so that all accesses
require id / password. Since I use nothing but t
I suggest the use of the option keyword FOR iff you judge that an option
keyword and a set of at most three argumernts are really required.
In PL/I, from which this syntax model is derived, one writes, for example,
open file() input . . . ;l
open file() output . . . ;
open file() update . . . ;
Michael
Unfortunately, the first type of OSA with which I have worked is the OSA-2.
It appears from what Shane tells us that the Amdahl OSA is, in effect, an
OSA-1.
Indeed it is possible to have multiple IP address entries specified for an
OSA feature port in order that the destination IP address
From: Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Design question: I am implementing a command in a batch product, and one of
the parameters of the command will indicate "does it apply to input or
output datasets." What should the keyword for that parameter be?
How about:
ACCESS WHICHWAY(IN|OUT) other pa
Kirk
Thanks for confirming that my guess that "Attn" would work for Ed is
correct.
I'll confess that I missed out the BID angle since my post was quite long
enough already. In my description of the way the "change direction" (CD)
indicator works, I had assumed that the LU type 2 session was alrea
Design question: I am implementing a command in a batch product, and one of
the parameters of the command will indicate "does it apply to input or
output datasets." What should the keyword for that parameter be? In other
words, given a command syntax of
ACCESS X(IN|OUT) other parameters ...
w
Sure you can. Make sure it is mounted R/W.
Usually I use the /Service directory for this stuff. You probably used it
when you installed the system.
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:48:00 -0700, Gibney, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm migrating my z/OS 1.7 into the next LPAR. I use a cloning
>str
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:45:08 -0400 Kirk Talman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>It's been +10 yrs since I worked on TPX as a developer, but the behavior
:>you describe is the difference between SNA and non-SNA protocol. Under
:>SNA protocol ATTN replaces PA1, because RESET will not unlock the keybo
It's been +10 yrs since I worked on TPX as a developer, but the behavior
you describe is the difference between SNA and non-SNA protocol. Under
SNA protocol ATTN replaces PA1, because RESET will not unlock the keyboard
and give you direction if the application has not already given it to you,
I'm migrating my z/OS 1.7 into the next LPAR. I use a cloning
strategy.
So I will make a copy of the z/OS root HFS to use in the next LPAR. We
have several mount points in the target LPAR that are not in the
serverpac sandbox.
Can I mount a z/OS 1.7 level file system to a point in my 1.4 targ
Thanks for the info.
As a result of an off-list prompt, I put together the following REXX exec:
/* rexx */
/*
Display CPENABLE values;
CVT points to RMCT which
Hi,
There are other valid reasons for multiple images within a single CEC in
addition to dealing with VSCR challenges. One is to provide higher
availability.The exploitation of parallel Sysplex even within a
single CEC can isolate you from single image planned and unplanned
downtime. Nothin
Yes it is! I just replied to this and the Reply-To comes up as
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Flash 10337 discusses settings for CPENABLE.
http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/FLASH10337
ASKQQA document BDC32090 available in ServiceLink discusses the use
of IPCS to
There are few places I can test this at.
Suddenly RIM is screwing up my e-mail, again.
When in doubt.
PANIC!!
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No! It's not.
RIM changed things so that my direct BlackBerry account does that.
That's why I'm using a YAHOO Account (POP3).
I check it regularly, since that happened.
I see responses to
(Fix your Reply-To: or delete it, Ted. It's defaulting to your address, not
IBM-MAIN. Cue Shmuel.)
I can actually answer that one, because it happened to me. :-) The key is
you just suddenly realize they've gone AWOL.
I noticed that I'd stopped receiving those e-mails, so I went to my fri
>Maybe they read your tagline and were in doubt and PANICed !
??
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Mention of a "trashed" VTOC always reminds me of two events from my past:
1)
One volume I - and some colleagues - were working on had accumulated a large
number of temporary data sets. The smart one in the group said "I can easily
fix that, here's" - after a burst of work on the 029[1] - "t
Maybe they read your tagline and were in doubt and PANICed !
Birger Heede
IBM SWG
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
but IGS for IBM Global Services is a good example of something that I bet over
half the people on this list wouldn't think of. I had no clue. Please spell
out acronyms if there is a doubt
>The two major enqueue names are SYSZIGW0 and SYSZIGW1. PDSE services
>automatically set scope to SYSTEMS.
They didn't do it automatically when we turned it on!
But, that was many aeons ago.
IBM may have fixed it since, but I remember the scars from it not being
automatic (nor documented), then
The two major enqueue names are SYSZIGW0 and SYSZIGW1. PDSE services
automatically set scope to SYSTEMS. An enqueue with major name SYSDSN
will also be issued. A complete reference on all aspects of PDSE Usage
can be found in a Redbook at:
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246106.html?Open
Ed
Sometimes inquiring minds want to know what is going on.
The rest of this post talks about TSO as the primary LU application but I
guess similar principles will apply to your "VTAM application switcher". I
wouldn't be at all surprised if your application responded to the equivalent
of the "Att
>Should we expect that going to PDSE extended sharing would add a lot of
>overhead to our system?
Not really.
You would have to do an awful(*) lot of work to cause measurable overhead.
Just make sure you have the proper resources for managing PDSE's in a shared
environment set to scope SYSTEMS.
We have a basic sysplex with three LPARs: production, development, and
sandbox. Should we expect that going to PDSE extended sharing would add
a lot of overhead to our system? I would characterize us as using PDSEs
sparingly, mostly in connection with ENDEVOR.
Tom Sipusic
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On 25 Sep 2006 03:41:05 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>See "landmines" in http://www.isham-research.co.uk/dd.html
>
>The German adjective - not very politically correct - is "getürkt".
>
>I frequently mention my dear old HP41CV in the footnotes to the MIPS tables.
>That's because
>o
>but IGS for IBM Global Services is a good example of something that I bet over
>half the people on this list wouldn't think of. I had no clue. Please spell
>out acronyms if there is a doubt that they are universally recognizable.
If there had been doubt, I would have spelled it out.
PS: th
>And naturally these gurus are paid by the amount of CPU time they save their
>customers? And the upgrades those customers don't need to pay IBM for?
These gurus have saved us money (including upgrades).
IBM makes money on consulting gigs, too.
When in doubt.
PANIC!!
>Do you mean that they separate production
from application development and run them in different LPARs?
Yes.
When in doubt.
PANIC!!
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Granted, most acronmys used on this listserve are common enough to be
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Services is a good example of something that I bet over half the people on
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>In a recent note, Tom Marchant said:
>
>> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:03:21 -0500
>>
>>... But the best design (assuming that both
>> LPARS run on the same CEC) is to combine them into one LP
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
> IBM Global Services.
>
> Their out-sourcing arm.
>
> Their 'opinion' comes from the gurus within IBM Corporate.
And naturally these gurus are paid by the amount of CPU time they save their
customers? And the upgrades those customers don't need to pay IBM for?
Tony H.
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:51:33 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Does all your work get done?
>
>NO!
Do you continue to fall further behind every day/week/month?
>
>
>>Importance 4 & 5? You can't get your most important work to run?
>
>Since when is 4 & 5 the most important?
>IMP=1 i
On Monday 25 September 2006 11:06, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
> ... one of the first things IGS does when it takes over a
> company's IT environment. POOF! No more TSO with Production!
This statement is unclear. Do you mean that they separate production
from application development and run them in diff
In a recent note, Tom Marchant said:
> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:03:21 -0500
>
>... But the best design (assuming that both
> LPARS run on the same CEC) is to combine them into one LPAR.
>
I considered this, but feared it might encounter insurmountable
constraints su
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>
> But, you have to be very careful with TSO competi
>Does all your work get done?
NO!
>Importance 4 & 5? You can't get your most important work to run?
Since when is 4 & 5 the most important?
IMP=1 is the most.
>Including the cost of work that doesn't finish on time.
That is hard to quantify.
>(We are out-sourced, with all that entails)
>I
>If it is a given that I have a single CEC and my CPU demand is consistantly
>100%, then I totally fail to see the plus of multiple LPARs.
I made an assumption, regarding multiple footprints, that was invalid.
I have not run in a single CPU shop since 1984.
The only reason for multiple images wi
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:14:02 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Perhaps it's the design of WLM that doesn't account
>>>for profoundly diverse behaviors within a single LPAR.
>
>>Ahh, but it does.
>
>THAT I disagree with!
>
>Too many times have I found that mixing I/O bound and CPU bo
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>
> >Don't confuse importance with priority.
>
> Never
> From: Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:08:34 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >You may think I'm touting my opinion as 'fact', but go take a look at one
> >of the first things IGS does when it takes over a company's IT environment.
> >POOF! No more TSO with
>I don't know who IGS is, or why their opinion should carry any weight.
IBM Global Services.
Their out-sourcing arm.
Their 'opinion' comes from the gurus within IBM Corporate.
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>Your point? I put third period TSO in discretionary.
Discretionary never gets dispatched in our environment.
Putting a workload to discretionary is akin to:
E ,QUIESCE
In our environment.
We have less than an hour a day that we are not running flat out.
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Never have/never will.
The last thought I left with people, when I presented, was exactly that.
As a matter of fact, I tried (as recommended by Cheryl Watson) to get that
column removed from the SDSF panels.
.
.
.
>What kind of resources does that LPAR
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:08:34 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>There is no need for this kind of personal attack.
>
>It was intended as a joke.
>Not a very good one, but a joke.
apology accepted.
>
>You may think I'm touting my opinion as 'fact', but go take a look at one
>of the fi
>>Perhaps it's the design of WLM that doesn't account
>>for profoundly diverse behaviors within a single LPAR.
>Ahh, but it does.
THAT I disagree with!
Too many times have I found that mixing I/O bound and CPU bound jobs on the
same system kills the performance of the I/O bound jobs.
The only
>There is no need for this kind of personal attack.
It was intended as a joke.
Not a very good one, but a joke.
I have not had the luxury of having a machine run less than 100% for years.
And, in that kind of environment TSO does not mix well with Production (I said
Production -- NOT Batch, no
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 00:25:39 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>If TSOP1 was not one of the highest priorities, response was erratic.
>If the period was sized poorly, other workload (Production Batch,
>Onlines, etc.) suffered.
>
>I used to do three periods, with the third as a MTTW.
>
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:36:01 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Whether or not you feel WLM is somehow deficient at managing such
>>segregated workloads is pretty
>>much immaterial (again, IMO) and of course as usual, YMMV.
>
>When I implemented GOAL MODE at the Bank of Nova Scotia in
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:09:50 -0600, Paul Gilmartin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Compare:
>
>Case A:
>
>o One LPAR with 100 TSO users
>
>o One LPAR with 50 production jobs
>
>(Adjust numbers to reality.) versus:
>
>Case B:
>
>o Two LPARs, each with 50 TSO users and 25 production jobs.
>
>OK. You'
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 02:33:05 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>WLM can do an ecxellent job of maintaining good response time for TSO and
CICS environments as well as for batch production and test workloads. And
it can do it with the processors running very near
>capacity
>
>Please
Thanks to all who responded. Greg, the URL U gave explained everything.
Thanks again.
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and have TSSO from the CBT installed.
However, searches of GOOGLE and ASK do not give any hits, nor does the
IBM z/OS 1.7 website.
Searched the TSSO lib's and no hits either.
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> If you change the UACC and Global Access Table entry for
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The German adjective - not very politically correct - is "getürkt".
I frequently mention my dear old HP41CV in the footnotes to the MIPS tables.
That's because
one of the things it's used for is to find landmines.
In any given set of r
Phil Payne wrote:
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"Mr Hurd's part in the so-called "tracer email" scandal was disclosed at a
press conference
after the US markets closed last night. Investigators looking into boardroom
leaks planted
fictitious emails with jour
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> >Come on, think: how should the system serialize 2 jobs, when 1 uses
> >the alias and the
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