Re: z/OS 1.7 User SVC

See the following books for migration information (links may wrap): http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/E0Z2M13A/CCON TENTS?SHELF=E0Z2IN61&DN=GA22-7499-08&DT=20060125140513 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/E0Z2B117/CCON TENTS?SHELF=E0Z2IN61&DN=GA22

Re: UK XRC Support

> > So i guess anyone interested in XRC as it's DR tool had better be aware > that you're not supposed to know how the product you will rely on actually > works? In the meantime, an IBM guy who had been sent to help discuss our > problems took the 2 minutes required to fully answer the question. Wi

Re: What's a "programming language" (was: Google ... )

Many years ago, after becoming increasingly frustrated with a magazine publisher who kept sending me incorrect bills on 80-column cards, and who would not do anything to correct "their" mistake, I ran the card from the most recent bill through a card replicator, interpreted the output, and then add

Re: What's a "programming language" (was: Google ... )

On Oct 17, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Ed Finnell wrote: -SNIP Well, he's the same guy who overpunched a '-' on his utility bill and every time they'd process it they'd owe him more money. I'm not taking sides he was/is a really good systems person, mora

Re: Software Pricing

On Oct 17, 2006, at 7:10 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: --- >> COBOL is the Language of the Future! << --- Sorry, Tom: "PL/1 is the UN-COBOL" ;-) Rick, Not since its been tainted with LE:-) Ed

Re: Collisions between converter(?) and TSO?

At 09:50 -0700 on 10/17/2006, Charles Mills wrote about Re: Collisions between converter(?) and TSO?: You know, all things considered, I think the simplest solution for **my** problem is to add a little delay after each SUBMIT. I know it's not elegant, and I know it's not bulletproof, but this

Re: What's a "programming language" (was: Google ... )

In a message dated 10/17/2006 5:09:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now that's really going FAR BEYOND NASTY. Not sure but I think I'd consider that to be highly unprofessional. >> Well, he's the same guy who overpunched a '-' on his utility bill and every time

Re: Problem while converting a PDSE to PDS

Thanks to everyone for replying. Ale Robert Justice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The DLLs and the definition side-deck created by DSNTIJXP must adhere to the following rules: - the DLLs must be named DSNAOCLX and DSNAOTRX and must reside in a PDSE dataset or HFS file. -

Re: Collisions between converter(?) and TSO?

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/17/2006 at 09:50 AM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >You know, all things considered, I think the simplest solution for >**my** problem is to add a little delay after each SUBMIT. I know >it's not elegant, and I know it's not bulletproof, Aside from that,

Re: Collisions between converter(?) and TSO?

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/16/2006 at 11:27 PM, Binyamin Dissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >SUBMIT simply copies it to SYSOUT(INTRDR) SUBMIT does a good deal more than that. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Collisions between converter(?) and TSO?

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/16/2006 at 05:29 PM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Yes, I am modifying (actually, repeatedly building on the fly) the >member itself in the PDS referenced by JCLLIB, not changing the >member name in the INCLUDE statement. The it won't work. -- S

Re: Collisions between converter(?) and TSO?

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/16/2006 at 03:03 PM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I don't really need to use SUB at all, do I? That depends on whether you need the services that SUBMIT provides, e.g., building a JOB statement, calling the installation exit. >I don't really need to u

Re: StorageTek 9840 / VTSS question

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:38:48 -0400, Tim Hare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I can't find this in the manual for some dumb reason (probably I'm the >dumb reason but we'll let that drop...), I'm pretty sure I saw it in an >STK manual but I'm not finding it. > I think it talks about it in the VTCS admi

Re: HSM STACKing of Full Volume Dumps

I've never seen MORE than maxdumptasks running on our system, and I'm pretty sure my phone would ring when other tape jobs couldn't allocate. In my case, I have several classes with different stack values. I've seen the case where one STACK dump is the only remaining task and it has LOTS of volum

Re: Software Pricing

--- >> COBOL is the Language of the Future! << --- Sorry, Tom: "PL/1 is the UN-COBOL" ;-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / ar

Re: I love TCPIP (not!)

Matthew Here's your GATEWAY statement converted to a BEGINROUTES/ENDROUTES block: GATEWAY 10.0.0.0= Z990CH41LNK1 1492 0.255.248.0 0.2.8.0 192.0.0.0 = IQDIO18192 0.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 DEFAULTNET 10.2.8.2 Z990CH41LNK1 1492 0 to BEGINROUTES ; Where is

Re: HSM STACKing of Full Volume Dumps

Pinnacle wrote: Yes. 99 sounds like a good value to ensure you get everything on the tape, BUT, HSM divides the total number of volumes to dump by the STACK value to determine the number of tasks to run. MAXDUMPTASKS DOES NOT APPLY WHEN USING STACK!!! So 99 can over- or under-allocate your

Re: Software Pricing

>The COBOL example does not extend beyond those compiler writers as far as I >have seen. And I, for one, would not paint the entire COBOL team with that >broad brush. Tom Ross (although I think he's moved on to other things) was >a strong customer advocate - still is (although I have forgotten wh

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

So why are there so mainframe types unemployed? When in doubt. PANIC!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archi

Re: Software Upgrade for ServerPac

John, I'm going to echo back what you said to me as I understand it and see if I have it right. 1 - INDIRECT cataloging used. Fine. It restores the datasets 1 for 1 with where they now reside. All need be done is to change the IEASYMXX member, IPL, and go. 2 - NO Indirect cataloging used. It re

Re: HSM STACKing of Full Volume Dumps

Ed, Yes. 99 sounds like a good value to ensure you get everything on the tape, BUT, HSM divides the total number of volumes to dump by the STACK value to determine the number of tasks to run. MAXDUMPTASKS DOES NOT APPLY WHEN USING STACK!!! So 99 can over- or under-allocate your tape drives.

IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

As we monitor the health of the mainframe marketplace, there's continued good news. The earnings call highlighted mainframes, with strong growth in all geographies. (The strongest was in Europe for the record.) IBM's earnings per share rose to $1.45, beating Wall Street consensus by 10 cents. A

z/OS 1.7 User SVC

I recall reading about changes required to user written SVC routines in z/OS 1.7 (upgrading from 1.4) but now I can't locate the document (paged out of short term memory...) Does anyone know where a list of required modifications to these types of routines can be found? Thx, B.L.Jeffery -

Re: z/OS 1.7 - One Byte Console Id's

John Eells wrote: Dean Montevago wrote: Thanks John. All the doc I've read say's support is withdrawn in 1.7. What did I miss ? What will happen in 1.8 if you attempt to use a one-byte console id ? To be more specific, the macros, etc., that support 1-byte IDs in R6 do not support them in

HSM STACKing of Full Volume Dumps

HSM Gurus ... Is there any reason to specify a STACK value less than 99 when defining a dump class? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ --

Re: StorageTek 9840 / VTSS question

Tim, We haven't had a need to implement this here but the topic is discussed in Chapter 2 of the VTCS Admin Guide. ROland Fernandez Systems Programmer Specalist Union Bank of California 323-720-7104 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: What's a "programming language" (was: Google ... )

- Probably the statute has run out. We had a really sharp sysprog, who fell out with the S/3 support and vice versa. He was finding bugs and fixes faster than support could keep up so it finally got down to if you keep making changes we aren't goi

Re: StorageTek 9840 / VTSS question

On Tue, 2006-10-17 at 17:38 -0400, Tim Hare wrote: > Has anyone configured a StorageTek VTSS so that the RTDs (the 9840s > usually dedicated to the VSM box) are shareable with z/OS? I thought they were non-sharable (in that sense). But I haven't ever done the HCD work for such a puppy, merely th

Re: What's a "programming language" (was: Google ... )

In a message dated 10/17/2006 3:54:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That little S/3 reader/punch was pretty reliable but we had operators that were exceptionally destructive; they managed to destroy the punch "pins" when someone fed in some wet cards and created a

StorageTek 9840 / VTSS question

I can't find this in the manual for some dumb reason (probably I'm the dumb reason but we'll let that drop...), I'm pretty sure I saw it in an STK manual but I'm not finding it. Has anyone configured a StorageTek VTSS so that the RTDs (the 9840s usually dedicated to the VSM box) are shareable w

Re: Virtual Friday

Free -dumb? What oh what is a government agency to do? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Payne Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Virtual Friday This is off-charter. And I know it isn'

Re: I love TCPIP (not!)

Sorry, the Gateway Default should have been this: DEFAULTNET 10.2.8.2Z990CH41LNK1 1492 0 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:04:40 -0500, Matthew Stitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Thanks for the help, Chris. > >Here are the GATEWAY statements I've been using: > 10.0.0.0 = Z990CH41LNK1

Re: I love TCPIP (not!)

Thanks for the help, Chris. Here are the GATEWAY statements I've been using: 10.0.0.0 = Z990CH41LNK1 1492 0.255.248.0 0.2.8.0 192.0.0.0 = IQDIO1 8192 0.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 DEFAULTNET 9.2.8.2Z990CH41LNK1 1492 0 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:11:18 +0200,

Re: What's a "programming language" (was: Google ... )

-- Card j MultiFunction Card Machine (or Mother Fletcher's Card Mulcher). 2560, I think. Reader, punch, interpreter. 2 hoppers; 5 stackers. About 8 stations (a guess) where cards could be stuck. Some of the stations were VERY hard to reach. Jams were

Re: FTP has extra CR

On 17 Oct 2006 12:25:57 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >On your FTP from the mainframe, issue the >LOCSITE NOWRAP >Before you do the GET. Looks great. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruction

Re: FTP has extra CR

On 17 Oct 2006 12:17:32 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Do you mean that every line on the file ends with an 0x0D? Or that you >have a line consisting of a single 0x0D after each data line? I.e. the >0x0D is on a line by itself? Yep >If there is an extra 0x0D at the end of each line,

Virtual Friday

This is off-charter. And I know it isn't Friday, and I could have waited. But what the hell? It's a fragment from the current letters page at The Register: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/17/letters_1710/ "This reminds me of my last job, which involved testing hardware and setting stand

Re: FTP has extra CR

I was going to suggest binary transfer if you could talk the partner into it. Since the source and eventual target are both z-boxes, why go thru the CPU cycles to do two data transformations. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: FTP has extra CR

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:18:17 -0600, Howard Brazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 17 Oct 2006 12:42:24 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: > >The security people have decided which servers are accessible by which >of our business partners. This extra layer of isolation is >considered safe.

Re: Problem while converting a PDSE to PDS

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:03:19 -0700, Ale Eba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hello, > I encountered the following error > > IGW01207E BINDER DETECTED AN ERROR WHILE PROCESSING MEMBER DSNAOTRX >. BINDER RETURN CODE = X'000C' REASON CODE = X'83000422' > > while converting a PDSE to PDS using IEBC

Re: FTP has extra CR

On 17 Oct 2006 12:44:29 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Nothing on your side can control this. Off hand I would say either the >souce file has an extra x'0D' on the end of every line or the ftp client >is not properly putting x'0D0A' on the end of each record. I don't know if they

Re: FTP has extra CR

On 17 Oct 2006 12:42:24 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: The security people have decided which servers are accessible by which of our business partners. This extra layer of isolation is considered safe. >In a message dated 10/17/2006 2:36:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, >[EMAIL PRO

Problem while converting a PDSE to PDS

Hello, I encountered the following error IGW01207E BINDER DETECTED AN ERROR WHILE PROCESSING MEMBER DSNAOTRX . BINDER RETURN CODE = X'000C' REASON CODE = X'83000422' while converting a PDSE to PDS using IEBCOPY. How to correct this situation. Another solution can be

Re: FTP has extra CR

In a recent note, Howard Brazee said: > Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:59:09 -0600 > > A vendor has been FTPing a file from their mainframe to our Unix > machine, and we have been FTPing it up to our mainframe. These have > been character FTPs, not binary.I looked at their script and it

Re: Defining a display LU so the user can choose the terminal type

Yes, I remember. --- Scott Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stan: > > Remember logmode table entries depend on which > application is the PLU and SLU > And if a secondary screen size is specified.. > > Scott > > Stan Saraczewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you have

Re: FTP has extra CR

Howard Brazee wrote: A vendor has been FTPing a file from their mainframe to our Unix machine, and we have been FTPing it up to our mainframe. These have been character FTPs, not binary.I looked at their script and it has record size and block size of 80,800. Our mainframe file has

Re: FTP has extra CR

In a message dated 10/17/2006 2:36:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On your FTP from the mainframe, issue the LOCSITE NOWRAP Before you do the GET. >> Out of curiosity why don't we just go z2z and eliminate the transmografiers? --

Re: FTP has extra CR

On your FTP from the mainframe, issue the LOCSITE NOWRAP Before you do the GET. Sam Bass McLane Company Temple, TX 76503 254-771-7212 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:59 PM

Re: What's a "programming language" (was: Google ... )

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:35:32 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >>Card jams on a Mod 20's MFCM > >EXPN? Lrf, V xabj jung vg bssvpvnyyl fgnaqf sbe ? >... MultiFunction Card Machine (or Mother Fletcher's Card Mulcher). 2560, I think. Reader, punch, interpreter. 2 hoppers; 5 stackers.

Re: Defining a display LU so the user can choose the terminal type

Stan: Remember logmode table entries depend on which application is the PLU and SLU And if a secondary screen size is specified.. Scott Stan Saraczewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you have a variety of mode entries the terminal lu will select the one best suited for the

Re: Lost everything

Dear Eric: I had the same problem. I came up with a little of the following help. I use Acronis True Image. Acronis will image your "C:" system drive to a secure area on any harddrive. In case of a lost of files/folders or harddrive, the restore is fairly easy. You can restore via Win

FTP has extra CR

A vendor has been FTPing a file from their mainframe to our Unix machine, and we have been FTPing it up to our mainframe. These have been character FTPs, not binary.I looked at their script and it has record size and block size of 80,800. Our mainframe file has after every line a line

Re: New Z Box, Shared User Catalogs

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:43:01 -0500, Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:17:23 -0500, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: >> >> The system not in the plex will reserve the catalog when >>needed but nothing will stop that system from updating the catlog >>while t

Re: FTP has extra CR

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:59 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: FTP has extra CR > > A vendor has been FTPing a file from their mainframe to our Unix > machine

Re: A Letter To The FLEX-ES Community

Not this time. "Merphy" is an intentional misspelling of "Murphy." >From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skitt's_law : "One Usenet participant, Eric >Kehr, jokingly referred to it as Merphy's Law (sic). Jon And MURPHY'S LAW strikes YET again.

Re: Lost everything

This thread comes at an opportune time. It reminded me to back up the stuff I really need on my PC. I hate to admit it, but I do an abominable job at backing up my data on either of my PCs. I bought Roxio about 6 months ago. I backed up everything at that time, but haven't since. My brother

FTP has extra CR

A vendor has been FTPing a file from their mainframe to our Unix machine, and we have been FTPing it up to our mainframe. These have been character FTPs, not binary.I looked at their script and it has record size and block size of 80,800. Our mainframe file has after every line a line

Re: Collisions between converter(?) and TSO?

Charles Mills wrote: > You know, all things considered, I think the simplest > solution for **my** problem is to add a little delay after each SUBMIT. I perhaps misunderstood the original problem. I was proposing that you essentially do your own include processing, and submit the whole thing as

Re: New Z Box, Shared User Catalogs

Yes, although your level of risk is difficult to predict. The fact that someone has not seen a problem as yet is simply that. What level of risk is acceptable to you? Only you can answer. This scar here is from the time we took a catalog hit and were down for days. YMMV. -Original Mess

Re: z/OS 1.7 - One Byte Console Id's

Dean Montevago wrote: Thanks John. All the doc I've read say's support is withdrawn in 1.7. What did I miss ? What will happen in 1.8 if you attempt to use a one-byte console id ? To be more specific, the macros, etc., that support 1-byte IDs in R6 do not support them in R7. So you can't a

Re: Collisions between converter(?) and TSO?

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:50:57 -0700, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >You know, all things considered, I think the simplest solution for **my** >problem is to add a little delay after each SUBMIT. I know it's not elegant, You could also, as someone pointed out, code your INCLUDEd stateme

Re: New Z Box, Shared User Catalogs

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:17:23 -0500, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The system not in the plex will reserve the catalog when >needed but nothing will stop that system from updating the catlog >while the systems in the GRSplex/MIIplex may be updating it. > If the system that is not

Re: Lost everything

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:11:30 -0400, Arthur T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Sure.But it isn't trivial to identify, locate, & backup to >>somewhere safe - in a recoverable manner those files on a normal >>computer. > > How do you figure that? I periodically backup *everything* >except for s

Re: Lost everything

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:21:30 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >The last thing I do before going to bed is a disc to disc copy of any >data files that have changed during the day. Once a week I upload >anything I really can't risk losing to two web sites. > >So far I've never had any disasters on P

Re: Collisions between converter(?) and TSO?

You know, all things considered, I think the simplest solution for **my** problem is to add a little delay after each SUBMIT. I know it's not elegant, and I know it's not bulletproof, but this is a development test script, not a production job. The total run-time for the 70 jobs is probably two hou

Old hobbits die hard.....

Just thought you'd like to know about the most recent amusing (?) happenings: For several months I've been trying to debug various Exhibit modules using the latest and greatest version of Exorcise (I finally added (E)STAE support, and other goodies). Except that some went into loops, gave dif

Re: Software Pricing (Was: A Letter To The FLEX-ES Community)

In a message dated 10/17/2006 10:09:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> As I understand it, if A is 37% cheaper than B, then it costs 63% (100-37) what >>B costs. >I quite clearly stated that I meant a factor of 37 and _NOT_ 37%. I made the >distinction so

Re: New Z Box, Shared User Catalogs

>>> >>> We're about to IPL our new Z machine and the discussion >>> turned to MIM and the fact that the LPAR about to be IPL'd >>> won't be protected. We have shared DASD and shared User >>> Catalogs. SHROPTIONS are defined as (3,4). >>> >>> Are we exposing ourselves to any risk of catalog corrupti

Re: OPEN RC=8 with no messages

On 10/17/2006 12:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a recent note, Charles Mills said: Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:05:00 -0700 I've got a QSAM DCB. It's about 99% hard-coded, not built on the fly, and it works more than 99% of the time, so I'm pretty confident it's correct. It's unlikely

Re: New Z Box, Shared User Catalogs

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:16:41 -0500, McKown, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> We're about to IPL our new Z machine and the discussion >> turned to MIM and the fact that the LPAR about to be IPL'd >> won't be protected. We have shared DASD and shared User >> Catalogs. SHROPTIONS are defined

Re: JES2 Output "Ready to Print" time

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Barry Merrill > > The JES 26 SMF record field SMF26OPT+SMF26OPD (MXG variable > JFINTIME) is when the JES2 JOEs are made ready, which marks > the availability of each print file to be processed, and thus > the Print

Re: New Z Box, Shared User Catalogs

We don't serialize our test system with the MIM ring, but keep from cataloging datasets on shared catalogs or even editing/writing on shared DASD except those allocated to the test system or to our private libraries. Itschak --

Re: JES2 Output "Ready to Print" time

The JES 26 SMF record field SMF26OPT+SMF26OPD (MXG variable JFINTIME) is when the JES2 JOEs are made ready, which marks the availability of each print file to be processed, and thus the Print Queue Time can be estimated/measured by subtracting the start of print (SMF 6 field SMF6WST+SMF6WSD, MXG va

Re: New Z Box, Shared User Catalogs

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:13 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: New Z Box, Shared User Catalogs > > > - > >

Re: New Z Box, Shared User Catalogs

- We're about to IPL our new Z machine and the discussion turned to MIM and the fact that the LPAR about to be IPL'd won't be protected. We have shared DASD and shared User Catalogs. SHROPTIONS are defined as (3,4). Are we exposing ourselves to any

Re: New Z Box, Shared User Catalogs

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. > (NIH/CIT) [C] > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:01 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: New Z Box, Shared User Catalogs > > > We're about to IPL our new Z machi

Software Pricing (Was: A Letter To The FLEX-ES Community)

> As I understand it, if A is 37% cheaper than B, then it costs 63% > (100-37) what B costs. I quite clearly stated that I meant a factor of 37 and _NOT_ 37%. I made the distinction so as to avoid this kind of inanity, but it seems someone will always be dumb enough to step forward. I'm q

New Z Box, Shared User Catalogs

We're about to IPL our new Z machine and the discussion turned to MIM and the fact that the LPAR about to be IPL'd won't be protected. We have shared DASD and shared User Catalogs. SHROPTIONS are defined as (3,4). Are we exposing ourselves to any risk of catalog corruption? TIA, Dave O'Brien

Re: Lost everything

On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:36:47 -0400, Arthur T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>So I need to periodically back-up my config file. > > EVERYONE needs to periodically backup EVERYTHING they don't >want to lose. Sure.But it isn't trivial to identify, locate, & backup to somewhere safe - in a reco

JES2 Output "Ready to Print" time

Hi, All (esp. Ed Jaffe), We want to obtain as exactly as we can, a timestamp when JES2 says something like "Job n output dataset A is ready to print/punch/purge/view/whatever". We looked at the SMF type 30 but find only "job completion" time in there. We'd like to get a little more preci

Re: OPEN RC=8 with no messages

>(I did say "the DDNAME is moved in before the open" in >the OP.) Sorry, I overlooked that. So if there is a chance the code is re-entered for the same data set, would it be ok to use the already opened data set? If so, you could check the DCB-is-open-flag and skip the open if it indicates the

Re: z/OS 1.7 - One Byte Console Id's

Dean Montevago wrote: > All the doc I've read say's support is withdrawn in 1.7. What > did I miss? In 1.7 the WTO and WTOR macros no longer support the relevant keywords (they are flagged with a severe error), so it's not possible to assemble a program that uses one-byte IDs. But you can still

Re: z/OS 1.7 - One Byte Console Id's

Dean Montevago wrote: All the doc I've read say's support is withdrawn in 1.7. What did I miss ? Apparently, the truth. O:-) Seriously, you might consider providing a URL for "all the doc" that states this support is withdrawn in z/OS V1R7. I'd be interested to read it myself. What will h

Re: Collisions between converter(?) and TSO?

In a recent note, Charles Mills said: > Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:07:13 -0700 > > I guess the negative would be the large time investment I have now in a > JCL-driven process, and the fact that it's a batch product so JCL is the > environment in which it is most likely to run at a custome

Re: Collisions between converter(?) and TSO?

I guess the negative would be the large time investment I have now in a JCL-driven process, and the fact that it's a batch product so JCL is the environment in which it is most likely to run at a customer's. BTW, in the quote below, "ISPF" should read "SDSF." I do that all the time. Charles

Re: Collisions between converter(?) and TSO?

> Yes, I am modifying (actually, repeatedly building on the fly) the member > itself in the PDS referenced by JCLLIB, not changing the member name in > the INCLUDE statement. > > This is not some "I think I'll improve the user's job" sort of thing. This > is a test process for a batch product. I'v

Re: z/OS 1.7 - One Byte Console Id's

Thanks John. All the doc I've read say's support is withdrawn in 1.7. What did I miss ? What will happen in 1.8 if you attempt to use a one-byte console id ? Dean -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, Octob

Re: OPEN RC=8 with no messages

The DD name is passed by the caller and moved into the DCB. It is a "fixed" name that is always the same but this subroutine was written to be more flexible than that. (I did say "the DDNAME is moved in before the open" in the OP.) I wonder about the "open twice." I indicated that this is a comple

Re: SNOBOL (Was: Ralph Griswol)

--- Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/16/2006 at 08:26 AM, Rick Fochtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: I've been playing with it on a OS/360 system. Haven't figured out how to get a tn3270 client to connect, though.

Termination cleanup (was: Re: Collisions ...)

In a recent note, Binyamin Dissen said: > Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:44:01 +0200 > > Less likely that the INTRDR will remain allocated due to errors in the > CLIST/REXX. > z/OS Unix Services is excellent for this. If you run your Rexx EXEC from a shell with _BPX_SHAREAS=NO, allocations a

Re: What's a "programming language" (was: Google ... )

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/13/2006 at 02:54 PM, "Patrick O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Is something a programming language just because people used it for >programming? :-) An RPG program was sort of an accounting machine >simulator. While RPG is an awkward language[1] for general

Re: What's a programming language

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/14/2006 at 12:24 PM, Bernd Oppolzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Maybe that's another topic, but I found it always very strange to >spread application logic over a bunch of ISPF table definitions. You have to carve the bird at the joints. Sometimes table definition

Re: What's a programninbg language?

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/14/2006 at 01:16 PM, john gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >In Your attribution line is missing the attribution. >Dr Johnson's dancing dog been transmogrified into a dancing bear. >Why? Because nobody would believe a dancing beer ;-) -- Shmuel (Seymou

Re: Storage Philosophy Question

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/15/2006 at 03:47 PM, "Gibney, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >If we do this, we're talking about the dasd mirror being across >campus or further. Ouch! >We're not in an area prone to natural disasters. Nor in an area immune from them. >We're more worried about

Re: Storage Philosophy Question

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/12/2006 at 11:46 PM, "Gibney, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > It's been suggested by the Operations Manager and also my boss(es) >that we move to a "tapeless" model. That is that we acquire >sufficient dasd and establish a mirror offsite. We would cease DFHSM >

Re: Software Pricing mathematics

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/13/2006 at 09:44 AM, Matt Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Statements like this always confuse me. Why? They should tell you something about the author. >How can something be 37 times >(or 3700%) smaller or cheaper than something else? They can't. >If say

Re: Software Pricing

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/14/2006 at 08:00 PM, Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >At GUIDE and SHARE 10 years ago IBM stood up >and swore that they were trying to do better at documentation. Just like they swore that they would fix the documentation before they went OCO. We all know how w

Re: Software Pricing

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/14/2006 at 06:26 PM, Timothy Sipples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Of course there's no charge for any >zAAP capacity mated to those 3 MSUs, so with zAAP on average you end >up with roughly 11 or 12 MSUs of total WAS capacity. Additional >capacity beyond 3 MSUs has a

Re: Software Pricing

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/14/2006 at 03:08 PM, Tom Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Besides, how many COBOL application programmers read the manuals >anyway? I cannot tell you the LARGE number of times I have had to >read the documentation to them over the phone (or in person) because

Re: Software Pricing

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/14/2006 at 02:56 PM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Not to dispute any of your main points but I think the COBOL compiler >messages have always been "self-documenting" -- back at least to 1974 >and OS/VS COBOL. There's an old joke attributed to Abraham L

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