Re: SMP/E 3.4 - IBM Order Server Performance

2007-06-05 Thread Shane Ginnane
Mmmm - might the whole service delivery organization. I just ordered a single PTF (plus requisites) via SRD for delivery via INET. Shipped notification came in in no time. Kicked off a batch ftp to pick it up - timed out. 3 times. Went and pulled it via http, and (SMP) received it. Just the one

Multiple Copying Program

2007-06-05 Thread Cartwright, Dave
Can anyone suggest a program to use to copy multiple sequential files at a single point in time? I want to setup a test CA-7 environment and most of its queues are flat files which may be GENER'ed. For aesthetic reasons I would like to snap them all simultaneously. I think SyncSort may offer mul

Re: Multiple Copying Program

2007-06-05 Thread Dave Cartwright
Twit! Once again answering my own question. DFSMSdss supports the COPY operand for logical and physical copies. That'll do, although I would still be interested if anyone has an alternative. Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signo

Re: Interesting(?) observation - IOCP on a z9BC

2007-06-05 Thread Roy Hewitt
John McKown, John wrote: Bottom line: Why did the S/A IOCP allow me to create a 2086 IOCDS on a 2096 machine? I presume you are referring to the SYSTEM keword on the ID statement, It is probably ignored by SA iocp, as its only purpose is to allow machine type verification of limit/options,

z/OS Documentation? Ouch!

2007-06-05 Thread Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I lately submitted an RCF on a z/OS product concerning an apparently incomplete description of its command syntax. The reply contained the following sentence, apparently from a developer addressed to a tech writer: ... I probably would not say anything about the syntax rules that are follo

1.7 and Internal Reader

2007-06-05 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Has anyone else had their venerable internal reader proc go crazy under 1.7? Ours gets JCL errors and doesn't pull the job to submit. Must be some more holes that got close in this release. Here is what we use, which shows an override error on IEFPROC.IEFRDER. //*---

Re: Multiple Copying Program

2007-06-05 Thread Staller, Allan
Don't forget the "PARALLEL" operand... Twit! Once again answering my own question. DFSMSdss supports the COPY operand for logical and physical copies. That'll do, although I would still be interested if anyone has an alternative.

Re: Double Postings

2007-06-05 Thread Bill Wilkie
It must be you. It must be you. Bill From: "Thompson, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Double Postings Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 16:42:43 -0400 Is it me [our system], or is anyone else getting two of every posting? Regards, St

Re: 1.7 and Internal Reader

2007-06-05 Thread Rich Tabor
Probably needs to be something like: //SYSUT1 DD DDNAME=IEFRDER //IEFRDER DD DSN=&FILE(&MEM),DISP=SHR On 6/5/07, Daniel McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone else had their venerable internal reader proc go crazy under 1.7? Ours gets JCL errors and doesn't pull the job to submit. Mus

Re: z/OS Documentation? Ouch!

2007-06-05 Thread Chris Mason
Paul Try to find out which development lab is responsible for the product - if you don't already know - and write a letter to the lab director - as if I needed to tell you - indicating how ridiculous this response was. I once got a response from a manager responsible for documentation having

Re: 1.7 and Internal Reader

2007-06-05 Thread Peter X. DeFabritus
We had a similar problem. If I remember correctly, JES2 for z/OS 1.7 has changed its internal reader processing, in that when a data set contains ASA control characters in column 1, JES2 no longer skips over these characters when receiving the records in an internal reader, but treats them as p

Re: Converting from Control-M to Cybermation ESP

2007-06-05 Thread Allen Thennes
Hey Gadi, I have been working with ESP since 1994. I have also worked for the vendor (Cybermation) for 3 years and worked very closely with the conversion teams. They do an exceptional job in identify all the necessary pieces in making the conversion as seamless as possible. As always there are

Re: 1.7 and Internal Reader

2007-06-05 Thread Chris Mason
Daniel Please also post the job log so we can see the error messages. It takes me back many years but I'm sure your procedure is what I used to do. In any case, this worked for you in releases before 1.7 didn't it? Chris Mason - Original Message - From: "Daniel McLaughlin" <[EMAIL

Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread Mark Zelden
Here we go again ... >If "USS" was "official" you would expect a massive number of hits. Wayne (nor anyone else who has ever weighed in on this topic) never claimed it was "official". Read his post... the word official was never used. >Of course I have no doubt that the developers among thems

Re: SMP/E 3.4 - IBM Order Server Performance

2007-06-05 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/5/2007 2:15:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ordered it again just to make sure I had punched all the right radio buttons. All round, a pretty poor experience compared to the past. >> My suspicion is that they failed to address the tn3270 qu

Re: 1.7 and Internal Reader

2007-06-05 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Thank you...I guess that should have been obvious..I'll give it a try. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at h

Job Stream via FTP

2007-06-05 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello all, I have a question. Can a jcl job stream be submitted via an FTP session? If yes, how? And are there any gotcha's? Thanks in advance. == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity t

Re: Job Stream via FTP

2007-06-05 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Use this format after you issue the FTP command: SITE FILETYPE=JES PUT 'JCL.Dataset' Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Tuesday, Ju

Re: 1.7 and Internal Reader

2007-06-05 Thread Chris Mason
Rich This is still taking me back many years but I'm happy to say I appear - according to the "MVS System Commands" manual - to have remembered correctly. The purpose of IEFRDER is to identify the, possibly and typically one of many, DD-statement to which any relevant parameters specified on

Re: Job Stream via FTP

2007-06-05 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:31 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Job Stream via FTP > > > > > Hello all, I have a question. Can a jcl job stream be submitted via

z/OS 1.8 Bug OA20554

2007-06-05 Thread Jousma, David
All, I reported a day or two ago about getting various S80A-10 abends in batch on a newly upgraded 1.8 production system. IBM has identified the offender as UA26500 which was applied/accepted as part of our base serverpack. Evidently it freemains x'10' bytes less than it getmained all below the

Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Chris, You missed my point on this. 1 - As Mark Z. stated, I am not claiming that USS is an "official" designation for z/OS UNIX, I am stating rather that it should be usable in those places where it's meaning is clear. 2 - Mr. Metz, has repeatedly harped on how USS is NOT z/OS UNIX, and never

Re: SYSTERM to DSN

2007-06-05 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
You were right Mark, the original OP never did post back. From: Mark Zelden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 6/4/2007 2:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSTERM to DSN On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 13:41:27 -0400, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] <[EMAIL PROT

Re: SYSTERM to DSN

2007-06-05 Thread J R
And, at the risk of once more violating O'Brien's Law, I suspect I was right that it was the asynchronous responses from the HSM address space that was the real problem. From: "O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.E

Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread J R
Binyamin Dissen: :>>There was/is also something called TSSO :>last time I used TSSO, TPUT output went to the console TPUT went to the console? I would be surprised. Perhaps you meant PUTLINE? About twenty years ago, there was also something called ConsoleMaster, but I don't see it arou

Re: Job Stream via FTP

2007-06-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 08:31:04 -0500, Ward, Mike S wrote: > >Hello all, I have a question. Can a jcl job stream be submitted via an >FTP session? If yes, how? And are there any gotcha's? > Code pages are frequently a "gotcha". I make it work best with: quote site sbdataconn=(IBM-1047,ISO8859-1)

Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread Chris Mason
Mark Indeed, "here we go again". The last outbreak - as I remember - was about 6 months ago. Indeed the word "official" wasn't used - but it was strongly implied.[1] I would ask you to do me the honour of taking the trouble to read ***my*** post. I specifically said that I had no objection t

Re: z/OS Documentation? Ouch!

2007-06-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:02:06 +0200, Chris Mason wrote: > >Try to find out which development lab is responsible for the product - if >you don't already know - and write a letter to the lab director - as if I >needed to tell you - indicating how ridiculous this response was. > Well, I chose to defer t

Re: Job Stream via FTP

2007-06-05 Thread Chris Mason
Mike Some lecture notes - about a decade or more old now: When the transfer mode is set to JES using the following subcommand SITE FILETYPE=JES jobs may be submitted. While the "file type" is set to JES, the PUT subcommand causes the data set to be interpreted as a job by the JES subsys

Re: Job Stream via FTP

2007-06-05 Thread Ward, Mike S
Thank you very much. I will do so in the future. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Job Stream via FTP Mike Some lecture notes - about a decad

Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 09:50:48 -0400 J R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>Binyamin Dissen: :>>:>>There was/is also something called TSSO :>>:>last time I used TSSO, TPUT output went to the console :>>TPUT went to the console? I would be surprised. :>>Perhaps you meant PUTLINE? :>About twenty years a

Re: Job Stream via FTP

2007-06-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 16:15:18 +0200, Chris Mason wrote: > >SITE FILETYPE=JES > This appears to work from a Solaris client. However, from Windows XP: ftp> site filetype=jes Invalid command. And, ironically, from a z/OS client: EZA1701I >>> SITE filetype=jes 502 SITE command not imp

Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread J R
That isn't TSSO. I know. Did it allow all TSO commands to run Yes. It supported all SVC93/SVC94 functionality, so it did not matter what commands the user was running. From: Binyamin Dissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: R

Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J R > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:34 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications > > > >That isn't TSSO. > > I know. > > >Did it all

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not

2007-06-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 19:26:53 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: > >Err IBM used to have a FDP product that did just that. I am not sure >if they still market it or not. It was not designed specifically for >this it was an hmmm designed to take almost any format file and >create an 80 byte image enveloped inside

Re: z/OS 1.8 Bug OA20554

2007-06-05 Thread Ed Gould
On Jun 5, 2007, at 8:48 AM, Jousma, David wrote: All, I reported a day or two ago about getting various S80A-10 abends in batch on a newly upgraded 1.8 production system. IBM has identified the offender as UA26500 which was applied/accepted as part of our base serverpack. Evidently it free

Re: z/OS 1.8 Bug OA20554

2007-06-05 Thread Jousma, David
I believe it is Base Access Method Services Dave Jousma Principal Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Tues

Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread J R
Oh, man. Any chance of getting this to run as a UNIX command so that I could use TSO ISPF from a UNIX shell instead of TSO? I doubt it. It ran in a TSO address space. In any case, it doesn't seem to exist any more. From: "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J R > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications > > > >Oh, man. Any chance of getting this to run as

IBM mainframe PSP web site

2007-06-05 Thread Richard Pinion
Has anyone noticed "strange results" when seaching the IBM PSP website? I routinely check the site specifying a type of "Z/OS", catagory of "MVS operating system", my level of Z/OS, and selecting "extract files only". In the last week or so I have been getting results that do not fit into my

Re: INTIDS (was: zOS 1.8 and One Byte Console ID)

2007-06-05 Thread Scott Fagen
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 07:29:25 +0200, Barbara Nitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- >I beg to differ with regard to the INTIDS and UNKNIDS attribute, though. Given >that there is no way in hell to define it on a 1.6 system that runs mixed with a >1.8 system, it is wrong of console initialization cod

Re: Job Stream via FTP

2007-06-05 Thread Chris Mason
Paul This is a specific instance of the general rule that, if an FTP client doesn't understand the command you wish to send to the FTP server, you should "quote" it, as it were. From "IP User's Guide and Commands": QUOte subcommand—Send an uninterpreted string of data Purpose Use the Q

Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 10:58:07 -0400, J R wrote: >>Oh, man. Any chance of getting this to run as a UNIX command so that I >>could use TSO ISPF from a UNIX shell instead of TSO? > >I doubt it. It ran in a TSO address space. > >In any case, it doesn't seem to exist any more. If you're talking about C

Re: Job Stream via FTP

2007-06-05 Thread Edward Jaffe
Chris Mason wrote: [snip] But then I read further and, because FTPPM didn't/doesn't allow the JES output to be retrieved, that had to be done with the basic FTP command. However, there's no mention of needing to use "quote" in order to use the "site filetype=jes" command. Why, I wonder, has the

Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread J R
If you're talking about Console-Master from Xenos (www.xenos.com), it ran as a started task. Yes, that was the "recovery mode" where JES was not available. In non-recovery mode, you walked up to a console, entered "LOGON" and got a genuine TSO address space. From: Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PRO

Re: z/OS 1.8 Bug OA20554

2007-06-05 Thread Sharon Lopez
If I restore UA26500 back to the base of HDZ1180, do you think that I will be ok? I'm due to roll my first 1.8 into production on June 17th and I've already restored 2 ptfs on my test system, and frankly, I'm thinking about postponing my upgrade because of all the information that I've received o

Re: Double Postings

2007-06-05 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Evans-Young Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Double Postings That may be my fault. I've been trying to update the Listserv mailer and the Windows se

Re: Double Postings

2007-06-05 Thread Darren Evans-Young
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Thompson, Steve wrote: > >Any idea when this might end? I'm still getting two of every posting. > >Later, >Steve Thompson Yikes, you shouldnt still be getting doubles! Email me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), not the list, a double posting complete with the headers (Received: tags). I d

Re: Double Postings

2007-06-05 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Darren Evans-Young > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Thompson, Steve wrote: > > > > >Any idea when this might end? I'm still getting two of every posting. > > > >Later, > >Steve Thompson > > Yikes, you shouldnt still be gettin

Re: z/OS 1.8 Bug OA20554

2007-06-05 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:49:23 -0400, Sharon Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If I restore UA26500 back to the base of HDZ1180, do you think that I will >be ok? I'm due to roll my first 1.8 into production on June 17th and I've >already restored 2 ptfs on my test system, and frankly, I'm thinking a

Re: DFSORT date processing

2007-06-05 Thread Frank Yaeger
On Jun 5, 4:18 am, Captain Paralytic wrote: > I have a file which contains a timestamp in the format: > MMDDHHMMSSMM > starting at position 27. > > Is it possible to have DFSORT remove records which are more than a > month old where a month is defined as 28 days? > > If it is possible, can some

Re: Converting from Control-M to Cybermation ESP

2007-06-05 Thread Hal Merritt
ESP is no longer Cybermation. It is now a CA product. We feel that ESP is a superb product. We also feel that CA is trying very had to put itself out of business and to divest itself of us as a customer. Just my personal opinion. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion Lis

Re: BPXBATCH and DSNAME ENQs

2007-06-05 Thread Tony Harminc
On Tue, 29 May 2007 10:50:23 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >Ouch! Dynamically creating job steps seems utterly contrary to the >JCL paradigm. Indeed. One of several cases where the z/OS UNIX implementation has unnecessarily broken existing paradigms. The surprise factor is often high. What happe

Re: Interesting(?) observation - IOCP on a z9BC

2007-06-05 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:28:42 +0100, Roy Hewitt wrote: >You dont even need to create the IOCDS, remember the IOCDS is only ever >used at POR time...so if PORs are hard to come by, then you can defer it >until you really need to... > If you don't create and activate a new IOCDS with the IODF, I beli

Re: Interesting(?) observation - IOCP on a z9BC

2007-06-05 Thread Glen Gasior
This is a bit OT, but will you be running as a uniprocessor on the z9BC ? On 6/4/07, McKown, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We recently converted our 2086 (z890) to a 2096 (z9BC) via a "suicide swap". -- For IBM-MAIN subscri

Re: Interesting(?) observation - IOCP on a z9BC

2007-06-05 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glen Gasior > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:54 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Interesting(?) observation - IOCP on a z9BC > > > This is a bit OT, but will you be running as

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not

2007-06-05 Thread Ed Gould
On Jun 5, 2007, at 9:40 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: TSO TRANSMIT comes tantalizingly close to doing the central part of this in that it creates LRECL=80 images of many file formats. However, those can't be safely enveloped inside JCL because there's no guarantee that the TRANSMIT output won't ha

Re: Z/os mainframe encryption

2007-06-05 Thread Mark Jacobs
Jim Savage wrote: New to cryptography, I'm using IBM callable services CSNBENC and CSNBDEC to encrypt/decrypt fields in SMS files. It seems I need to obtain a key identifier by calling CSNBKGN and also specify an initialization vector to encrypt. Are these two calling parameters 'keys' for th

Re: How do i install Linux on S/390 Machine

2007-06-05 Thread R.S.
Just curious: what policy ? Why people sometimes provide a link to a presentation at share.org and everyone can download the presentation. My guesses: a) There is no such policy. Presenations are available to public. b) There is a policy, but people often break it, *and* sahre web service does

Z/os mainframe encryption

2007-06-05 Thread Jim Savage
New to cryptography, I'm using IBM callable services CSNBENC and CSNBDEC to encrypt/decrypt fields in SMS files. It seems I need to obtain a key identifier by calling CSNBKGN and also specify an initialization vector to encrypt. Are these two calling parameters 'keys' for the encryption? Are

CICS Abends at startup AKEA

2007-06-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
Sorry for posting here, but the CICS newsgroup keeps revoking me - something about bouncing. Anyway, we had a CICS region fail after 64 abends of the following. If anyone could provide some guidance as to where to being that would be great. The only SVC Dump is at the end when we cancelled C

USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 08:21:35 -0500, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >Exactly... common usage and less keystrokes. So what is the >problem in using it in a forum like this when everyone knows exactly >what it means? Are all the net jargon abbreviations"official". Do we >waste time

Re: Z/os mainframe encryption

2007-06-05 Thread R.S.
Jim Savage wrote: New to cryptography, I'm using IBM callable services CSNBENC and CSNBDEC to encrypt/decrypt fields in SMS files. It seems I need to obtain a key identifier by calling CSNBKGN and also specify an initialization vector to encrypt. Are these two calling parameters 'keys' for th

Re: CICS Abends at startup AKEA

2007-06-05 Thread Clark, Kevin
L. A dump would be better than a guess, however DFHLUP is for LU services/ MRO. Perhaps you have a 24bit program trying accessing EDSA. Do a CEMT I SYD RESULT - OVERTYPE TO MODIFY Sydumpcode(SR0001)check the AP0001 also Sysdumping( Nosysdump ) Dumpscope( Local )

Re: CICS Abends at startup AKEA

2007-06-05 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > > Sorry for posting here, but the CICS newsgroup keeps revoking > me - something about bouncing. > > Anyway, we had a CICS region fail after 64 abends of the > following. If anyone could provide

Re: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread Greg Shirey
While you're in an intolerant mood, rail at IBM for including these checks in Health Checker: USS_AUTOMOUNT_DELAY USS_FILESYS_CONFIG USS_MAXSOCKETS_MAXFILEPROC Regards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe

Re: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread Mark Zelden
>You find our pedantry irritating. Not usually. But occasionally. :-)I'm sure I've been guilty now and then of being a little pedantic myself. > (probably "we", but I can speak only >for myself) find your misuse of USS irritating. So it's a draw. > For the record, I don't use USS for Uni

Re: CICS Abends at startup AKEA

2007-06-05 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
Lizette, You have someone stepping on your CICS area (well you already knew that). what you need is a SVC dump. I know of at least a few places where a dump can be suppress. 1. with in CICS (CEMT S DU...), Abendaid FX (or other dump reading product), DAE, or maybe you have a forgotten SLIP suppres

Re: CICS Abends at startup AKEA

2007-06-05 Thread Bill Wilkie
L. What he said PLUS check for AMODE/RMODE of any recent changes. Bill From: "Clark, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CICS Abends at startup AKEA Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:40:45 -0400 L. A dump would be better than a gu

Re: CICS Abends at startup AKEA

2007-06-05 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:30 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: CICS Abends at startup AKEA > > > Sorry for posting here, but the CICS newsgroup keeps revoking

Re: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 08:21:35 -0500, Mark Z

Re: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve > > > > And in an ETR I had open with IBM, they [the TCP group] had > to agree that using USS for Unix System Services was causing > confusion when we also needed to discuss USS [VTAM] while > disc

Re: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread R.S.
Patrick O'Keefe wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 08:21:35 -0500, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... Exactly... common usage and less keystrokes. So what is the problem in using it in a forum like this when everyone knows exactly what it means? Are all the net jargon abbreviations"official

Re: CICS Abends at startup AKEA

2007-06-05 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
Without a dump and IPCS we can all run our crystal balls only. Most customer raise a PMR and deliver dumps to IBM support. Well in these days a comon way. Roland -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Tuesday

Re: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-05 Thread McKown, John
I agree with R.S. . After all, we don't want to become like that political body in France (sorry, don't remember the name) which attempts to MANDATE how the French speaking world will use words. IIRC, the have "outlawed" many "words" such as Le Hamburger in favor of some long involved phrase which

SHARE: JES2 Songbook

2007-06-05 Thread Chase, John
Who's the current "custodian"? I have a small contribution to make. TIA, -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search th

Re: BPXBATCH and DSNAME ENQs

2007-06-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:56:45 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: > >>Ouch! Dynamically creating job steps seems utterly contrary to the >>JCL paradigm. > >Indeed. One of several cases where the z/OS UNIX implementation has >unnecessarily broken existing paradigms. The surprise factor is often high. > "unnec

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not

2007-06-05 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 17:50:10 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >like). > >What client are you using, and what does it do with "quote stru r"? > >On Solaris 10, I readily get: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:331$ uname -a >SunOS solaris 5.10 Generic_118855-36 i86pc i386 i86pc > What a large p

Re: BPXBATCH and DSNAME ENQs

2007-06-05 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 4:02 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: BPXBATCH and DSNAME ENQs > > > "unnecessarily" indeed. I would be overjoyed if exec() re

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not

2007-06-05 Thread Jim Phoenix
Kenneth E Tomiak wrote: On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 17:50:10 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: like). What client are you using, and what does it do with "quote stru r"? On Solaris 10, I readily get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:331$ uname -a SunOS solaris 5.10 Generic_118855-36 i86pc i386 i

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2007-06-05 Thread George, William (DHS-ITSD)
A peer of mine is caught in a bind. He entered a command in the COMMAND field of the logon screen. The command was one he cut and pasted from and email sent to him explaining what to enter there. Unfortunately, the quotes around the dataset(member) were MS word type quotes (forward and backword q

Re: SHARE: JES2 Songbook

2007-06-05 Thread Frank I Rosenzweig
Current custodian is Helen Seren ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Contact her directly for submission criteria. FIR On 6/5/07, Chase, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Who's the current "custodian"? I have a small contribution to make. TIA, -jc- --

TSO LOGON Issue (resend with subject)

2007-06-05 Thread George, William (DHS-ITSD)
A peer of mine is caught in a bind. He entered a command in the COMMAND field of the logon screen. The command was one he cut and pasted from and email sent to him explaining what to enter there. Unfortunately, the quotes around the dataset(member) were MS word type quotes (forward and backwor

Re: How do i install Linux on S/390 Machine

2007-06-05 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
Just because GOOGLE can find it does not mean you can view it without your SHARE userid. And if you can, something is broken because you should need to sign in. It is also under Washington DC #2814. The session sometimes was sponsored by two projects at the same time and so it has a 28xx and a

Re: TSO LOGON Issue

2007-06-05 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
If you don't have some form of special, you cannot do it for another user. -Original Message- From: George, William (DHS-ITSD) [mailto:snip] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TSO LOGON Issue Thanks Barry. I just tried it myself but received a RACF

Re: TSO LOGON Issue

2007-06-05 Thread George, William (DHS-ITSD)
Thanks Barry. I just tried it myself but received a RACF error. I'll attempt to find someone that can issue this command. Bill -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@

Re: Interesting(?) observation - IOCP on a z9BC

2007-06-05 Thread Roy Hewitt
Dave Kopischke wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:28:42 +0100, Roy Hewitt wrote: You dont even need to create the IOCDS, remember the IOCDS is only ever used at POR time...so if PORs are hard to come by, then you can defer it until you really need to... If you don't create and activate a new IOCDS

Re: BPXBATCH and DSNAME ENQs

2007-06-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 16:15:51 -0500, McKown, John wrote: > >> "unnecessarily" indeed. I would be overjoyed if exec() retained the >> DDNAME allocations. It would be immensely useful to be able to do >> fork(), then in the child a bunch of DYNALLOCs then an exec(), or >> especially an execmvs(). > >

Re: z/OS Documentation? Ouch!

2007-06-05 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
>From two recent projects I am involved in, I have sent in close to 50 corrections in for three manuals. I have not received feedback on the 20 or so emails, but they have been trickling back in. An email does not get the same priority as a problem report. If you can code the command the way the

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2007-06-05 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Have someone with system special issue ALU user TSO(NOCOMMAND) Possibly have the user logon through telnet or other non-3270 method and issue the command himself. Not sure how much authority a user has over his own account. -Original Message- From: George, William (DHS-ITSD) [ma

Re: TSO LOGON Issue

2007-06-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:00:43 -0700, Neubert, Kevin (DIS) wrote: >Just a guess... Determine the variable in question then remove it via >ISPEXEC VERASE. > >From a batch job? >From a linemode TSO session? Catch 22? >-Original Message- >Behalf Of George, William (DHS-ITSD) >Sent: Tuesday,

Re: TSO LOGON Issue (resend with subject)

2007-06-05 Thread George, William (DHS-ITSD)
Kevin It appears to be a RACF 'variable' of which I or the person in question do not have auth to change. Looks like it is just a matter of finding someone with RACF authority to fix this. Thanks Bill -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beh

Re: 1.7 and Internal Reader

2007-06-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/05/2007 at 07:50 AM, Daniel McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Has anyone else had their venerable internal reader proc go crazy >under 1.7? Ours gets JCL errors and doesn't pull the job to submit. >Must be some more holes that got close in this release. Here

Re: EZtrieve query

2007-06-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/04/2007 at 02:44 PM, Howard Brazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >My provider shows bit.listserv.ibm-main which contains a copy of this >listserve. IBM-MAIN is gated to bit.listserv.ibm-main, but articles in bit.listserv.ibm-main are not gated to IBM-MAIN. If you want

operator display command with response

2007-06-05 Thread Harold Zbiegien
Anyone know of any program that I could issue an operator display type command and receive back the response? Something like a vtam programmed operator but for system commands. Harold Zbiegien -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signof

HSM recall to tape

2007-06-05 Thread Harold Zbiegien
We are in the middle of implementing a virtual tape system. And one of the goals is to dismantle our current TMM (tape mount management) system which is a combination of SMS rules and HSM. We want to recall all of our migrated files and write them to tape. The HSM RECALL command will recall a

Re: TSO LOGON Issue (resend with subject)

2007-06-05 Thread Neubert, Kevin (DIS)
Just a guess... Determine the variable in question then remove it via ISPEXEC VERASE. Regards, Kevin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George, William (DHS-ITSD) Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Su

Re: TSO LOGON Issue (resend with subject)

2007-06-05 Thread Jim Harrison
The logon screen is a VTAM display, not ISPF, so VERASE or anything TSO-wise won't work. I think you need to contact your sysprogs. I have no idea where that information is stored between logons and I doubt you or your friend will have authority to mess with it. At 06:04 PM 6/5/2007, George

Re: HSM recall to tape

2007-06-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 18:25:13 -0400, Harold Zbiegien wrote: > >We want to recall all of our migrated files and write them to tape. The HSM >RECALL command will recall a file to disk, but not to tape. > >Does any one have any tips or suggestions? > Where are they now? ML1? If so, wait until ML2 mo

Re: TSO LOGON Issue (resend with subject)

2007-06-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 18:29:12 -0400, Jim Harrison wrote: >The logon screen is a VTAM display, not ISPF, so VERASE or anything >TSO-wise won't work. I think you need to contact your sysprogs. I >have no idea where that information is stored between logons and I >doubt you or your friend will have a

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