Re: mainframe = superserver

2007-06-06 Thread John R. Grout
Chris Craddock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Exceptions? Yes, there was a version of NT > (3.something) that ran on the DEC ALPHA, but > that was done by Microsoft themselves and it's > long gone anyway. There was also a PowerPC version that died soon after Steve Jobs' return to Apple, who ended t

Re: Linux in a lpar

2007-06-06 Thread Timothy Sipples
Linux running in an LPAR (without z/VM) is perfectly viable and entirely appropriate if you have relatively stable, predictable workloads that fit, at least over the short to medium term, within "about 6 or fewer" Linux instances. However, if you think you need to install Linux in an LPAR without

Re: mainframe = superserver

2007-06-06 Thread Timothy Sipples
To the original poster, what are these Windows servers running (what middleware, applications, and/or services)? The answer to that question will largely determine how well you can rationalize your now full data center. One major problem with Microsoft Windows is that it locks you into a particul

Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-06 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computer as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick O'Keefe) writes: > At times like this I sorely miss my long lost APPN "Formats and Protocols" > bible. I believe official sources claim t

Re: mainframe = superserver

2007-06-06 Thread Ed Gould
On Jun 6, 2007, at 8:23 PM, Craddock, Chris wrote: Ed G said A reliable *RUMOR* several years ago said IBM (IIRC or was it AMDAHL) had done it. UTTER GARBAGE! AS IN NOT-FREAKIN-POSSIBLE. CC Chris: I respect you but I got this from a excellent source (IBM type person who has been a fri

Re: Where is storage taken for System Trace Table?

2007-06-06 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 06/06/2007 01:37:05 PM: > How big is this processor trace table? From reading the PoOps, I deduce > that it must be 4K, since a trace table exception interrupt is created if the > next available trace table entry address would be in the next higher 4K o

Re: Where is storage taken for System Trace Table?

2007-06-06 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 06/06/2007 11:47:39 AM: > When I change the size of the System Trace Table (i.e. TRACE ST,512K), > where is the storage taken from? The storage for trace buffers is mapped in virtual in 31-bit storage in the TRACE address space. The real storage is 31-b

Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-06 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:58:29 +0200, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >[1] Official sources will claim that the CP is a NAU separate from the LU. >On examination, this can be seen to be an unnecessary complication. >A CP is an LU which happens to use certain specific mode names such >as

Re: Help with UNIX abend

2007-06-06 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:41:00 -0500, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >To get around that, here is the version of BPXMTEXT that I use: > >/* REXX */ >Arg CODE >"ALTLIB ACTIVATE APPL(EXEC) DA('SYS1.SBPXEXEC')" >"%BPXMTEXT" CODE >"ALTLIB DEACTIVATE APPL(EXEC)" >... I got it to work via

Re: mainframe = superserver

2007-06-06 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:43:04 -0400, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: >Craddock, Chris wrote: >> >> UTTER GARBAGE! AS IN NOT-FREAKIN-POSSIBLE. > >What is not possible, that it was IBM or Amdahl did it? > >Or that somebody ran Exchange under Wine under Linux on a zSeries mainframe? Or that someone could

Re: mainframe = superserver

2007-06-06 Thread Craddock, Chris
> What is not possible, that it was IBM or Amdahl did it? Sorry, my rant was not clear. Operating systems in particular have pretty significant dependencies on the instruction set architecture. It is just impossible to run a Microsoft Windows operating system (binary) on anything that isn't a fait

Re: mainframe = superserver

2007-06-06 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Craddock, Chris wrote: Ed G said A reliable *RUMOR* several years ago said IBM (IIRC or was it AMDAHL) had done it. UTTER GARBAGE! AS IN NOT-FREAKIN-POSSIBLE. CC What is not possible, that it was IBM or Amdahl did it? Or that somebody ran Exchange under Wine under Linux on a zSeries

Re: EZtrieve query

2007-06-06 Thread Don Leahy
- Original Message - From: "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 2:37 PM Subject: Re: EZtrieve query In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/04/2007 at 09:18 AM, Howard Brazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: On 1 Jun 2007

Re: mainframe = superserver

2007-06-06 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
I don't think that any single Intel based box out there today could scale up to a few hundred virtual Windows boxes. I don;t know how many virtual servers that VirtualPC can support. VMWare's ESX can now support up to 128. So I don't think you you can get them all in a single box. You MIGH

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not

2007-06-06 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
Will try quote stru r tomorrow, along with combinations of quote rdw and quote site recfm=vs to see if any work. >On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 14:20:02 -0700, Jim Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >STRU is not a valid SITE sub-command. Rather it is a command in it's >own right. Use quote stru r, no

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not

2007-06-06 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
Not on my Windows/XP system. I get invalid parameters and invalid command. What PC platform are you using? The FTp client that came with windows or something else? How does using RECMF=U put a RECFM=VS file that IEBCOPY can use again help? I tried those and IEBCOPY still complained the first rec

Re: mainframe = superserver

2007-06-06 Thread Craddock, Chris
Ed G said > > A reliable *RUMOR* several years ago said IBM (IIRC or was it AMDAHL) > had done it. > UTTER GARBAGE! AS IN NOT-FREAKIN-POSSIBLE. CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: mainframe acces using shared id

2007-06-06 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
There are a multitude of vendor products that provide SOX compliant security without using RACF, ACF2, TopSecret or other product. In those instances, transaction security has been disabled because the product uses its own internal security features and double authenticating serves no purpose. T

Re: How do i install Linux on S/390 Machine

2007-06-06 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
The answer is already stated below. >On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 12:14:51 -0600, Howard Brazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 5 Jun 2007 14:35:42 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: > >>Just because GOOGLE can find it does not mean you can view it without your >>SHARE userid. And if you can, some

Re: mainframe = superserver

2007-06-06 Thread Ed Gould
On Jun 6, 2007, at 6:47 PM, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: ---SNIP- zSeries mainframes can NOT run Windows. That I am aware of, IBM is not even trying. They can run Linux and a LOT of server functions that you would use Windows for you can also use Linux. SNIP--

Re: mainframe = superserver

2007-06-06 Thread Rich Smrcina
Dave Kopischke wrote: I was reading a few weeks (or months) ago that someone actually did boot a windows server under LINUX. I don't recall the article stating it was on a zServer, but it might be possible. I doubt it would be reasonable from a performance standpoint though. Yes, it was d

Re: MQ CPU Creep

2007-06-06 Thread Rick Fochtman
We recently installed MQ v6 along with z/OS v1.7. After this installation we started to see CPU usage creep in the MQ master of about 2% CPU per day on a 2096-107. The system started out using less than 1% of the processor on May 20 and by May 31 it was

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-06 Thread Rick Fochtman
- Why is this important? I just lost my job for the second time in three years! To me, you can call it what you want! Arguing about the meaning of USS just shows you don't have the weight of the world on your shoulders! This forum is meant for much bet

Re: mainframe = superserver

2007-06-06 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 19:47:25 -0400, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: >zSeries mainframes can NOT run Windows. That I am aware of, IBM is not >even trying. They can run Linux and a LOT of server functions that you >would use Windows for you can also use Linux. > I was reading a few weeks (or months)

Re: mainframe = superserver

2007-06-06 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I realize that this has probably been asked before, but google didn't give me an answer. Before I asked my question let me state that I know that windows server 2003 and longhorn won't run on an IBM mainframe. There is the endian issue and the ascii vs ebcidic i

TSSO with z/OS 1.8

2007-06-06 Thread Brian Tidlund
I'm hoping someone can help me out with a TSSO problem. I'm testing z/OS 1.8 and downloaded the latest TSSO source from Mar 07 that supports z/OS 1.8. It's been reassembled and moved into my TSSO loadlib. Now whenever I enter "TSO OSCMD any command", I receive "OSCMD TERMINATING --> NO LINES WERE

Re: MAINFRAME CUSTOMER BASE SEEMS TO SHRINK

2007-06-06 Thread Robert Justice
- Original Message - From: "Kopischke, David G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: MAINFRAME CUSTOMER BASE SEEMS TO SHRINK Here's an interesting SearchDataCenter interview of our friend and past IBM-MAIN poster V

Re: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applic ations

2007-06-06 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chicklon, Tom Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applic ations Ted, sorry to hear about the job los

Re: SMP/E 3.4 - IBM Order Server Performance

2007-06-06 Thread Ed Gould
On Jun 6, 2007, at 12:52 PM, Brian Peterson wrote: -SNIP___ From this, I conclude the following Just like many areas of my IT organization, problems which are not reported simply do not exist. I'd be very surprised if "noise" from IBM-MAIN had anything

Re: SMP/E 3.4 - IBM Order Server Performance

2007-06-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:56:16 -0500, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >It sounds like what I was looking for the other day, but the link I had >saved in my "favorites" was broken and didn't forward. This is what >I used prior to converting over to ShopZseries for everything and >then to SMP

Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-06 Thread Chris Mason
Howard If you are or were ever acquainted with SNA architecture, you will have heard of the NAU, the generic term for the SSCP, the PU and the LU in subarea architecture and solely the LU[1] in Low Entry Networking (LEN) and APPN architecture. In subarea architecture, NAU stands for "network

Re: SMP/E 3.4 - IBM Order Server Performance

2007-06-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:31:08 -0500, Staller, Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Try > >http://www.ibm.com/support/us/ > >Rarely more the 15 minutes or so for up to 25 or 30 fixes. >File is placed for browser or FTP retrieval. > >The Search panel supports keyword searches similar to IBM link. >The o

Re: Help with UNIX abend

2007-06-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 16:31:19 -0400, Bob Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >And it was a long time before it meandered into my thick skull that bpxmtext >would work other than in the shell. > It depends. If you use LIBDEF to get to hlq.SBPXEXEC for ISHELL instead of including it in your logon

Re: SMP/E 3.4 - IBM Order Server Performance

2007-06-06 Thread Staller, Allan
Mark, Try http://www.ibm.com/support/us/ Rarely more the 15 minutes or so for up to 25 or 30 fixes. File is placed for browser or FTP retrieval. The Search panel supports keyword searches similar to IBM link. The onlyt drawback I have found is that this service is 1 or 2 days behind IBM link.

Re: Help with UNIX abend

2007-06-06 Thread Bob Rutledge
Mark Zelden wrote: The rest of the answer is in the z/OS Unix Messages and Codes and comes from R2 and R3 as also documented in the MVS codes for EC6. R2=RC and R3=RSN. Thanks for that--I missed it completely. (Note to self: Read *all* the words!) The FM tells you what those mean, but

Re: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-06 Thread Chris Mason
Steve I find this argument compelling. USS for UNIX System Services is fine for text discussion among humans when the context is clear but I can well imagine it can flummox poor computers who like a simple life where a word doesn't mean what the speaker chooses it to mean[1] but something more

Re: SMP/E 3.4 - IBM Order Server Performance

2007-06-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 14:10:23 -0500, Brian Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This is an excellent point. I've not heard any written or verbal statement >regarding the service objective for RECEIVE ORDER processing. Personally, I >feel the 120 minute timeout is reasonable. > >Brian > For "norma

Re: explicity coding for STORCLAS & DATACLAS

2007-06-06 Thread Richards.Bob
Bruce, In this case, I think he meant by "authority" that the userid was not in a special userid filter list and that that filter list value is part of a compound test when testing for the presence of an explicit storclas specification. (wow, I typed a mouthful...LOL) Bob Richards -Origin

Re: MQ CPU Creep

2007-06-06 Thread Kelman, Tom
Bob, We did check with IBM and found APAR PK40826 and PTF UK23542. The specific "fix" specified didn't work for us so our MQ folks are still talking with IBM support. Yes, I have definitely used the LCS software and the SETMSUS process to analyze and then remove the time periods where we're runn

Re: explicity coding for STORCLAS & DATACLAS

2007-06-06 Thread Bruce Black
You may not have authority to specify the StorClass. I believe that a RACF violation on the Storclas name would result in an allocation failure. I believe that the only explanation is that his storclas ACS routine is checking for an input storclas (one specified by the caller as he did) and

Re: explicity coding for STORCLAS & DATACLAS

2007-06-06 Thread Wilkins, Mike
In my shop I've coded... - an SMS StorClass of 'NONSMS' to specifically NOT SMS manage a dataset (if so desired). - that only a known list of UserID's can alter the StorClass. In my case, these are SMS admins. - a dataset node position #3 of 'NONSMS' will cause the dataset to be non-SMS managed.

Re: MQ CPU Creep

2007-06-06 Thread Richards.Bob
Tom, We put up MQ V6 late last year. I seem to remember this same problem occurring, so you should get a hit on their PMR database. Oh, and use LCS' WHATIF (SETMSUS) capability to remove the offending time periods and specify customer MSUs on your SCRT reporting for MQ. Bob Richards -Ori

Re: SMP/E 3.4 - IBM Order Server Performance

2007-06-06 Thread Brian Peterson
This is an excellent point. I've not heard any written or verbal statement regarding the service objective for RECEIVE ORDER processing. Personally, I feel the 120 minute timeout is reasonable. Brian On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 13:40:29 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: >But you (nor anyone else, particularl

Re: MAINFRAME CUSTOMER BASE SEEMS TO SHRINK

2007-06-06 Thread Hal Merritt
I would speculate that CA's customer base is shrinking. They are loosing the shops that are really aggressive about controlling costs and are willing to drop a product if the vendor won't play ball on pricing. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applic ations

2007-06-06 Thread Chicklon, Tom
Ted, sorry to hear about the job loss (this coming from another former IBMer...). And I couldn't agree with the rest of your response more. This topic is NOT important! In the grand scheme of things, who really cares? If this is our biggest problem of the day and we have nothing better to do than

Re: Annd yet more pedantry( was: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications)

2007-06-06 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
This entry from Dictionary.com would tend to suggest that they are all initialism's: in·i·tial·ism /ɪˈnɪʃəˌlɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[i-nish-uh-liz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. a name or term formed from the initial letters of a group

Re: explicity coding for STORCLAS & DATACLAS

2007-06-06 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
The fact that you code an "SMS" parameter, such as STORCLAS and DATACLAS in this instance, does not mean that those values are used. The ACS routines are still invoked. Depending on the code in each routine, the specified value can honored or changed. Determining why a set of input resulted in a

Re: TSO LOGON Issue

2007-06-06 Thread Mark Zelden
Since this thread started after I stopped working yesterday, I just read all of the posts today from the sidelines. I have to say I am quite surprised by all of the different (erroneous) responses / guesses as to what could be done. I am not surprised that there were at least 3 different subje

Re: Annd yet more pedantry( was: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications)

2007-06-06 Thread Howard Brazee
On 6 Jun 2007 11:10:52 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >* An initialism is a type of abbreviation pronounced one letter >at a time. For instance, PGA, AARP, IOU, etc. > >* An acronym is a type of abbreviation that is pronounced as a >word. For instance, SCUBA, LASER, PUS

Re: SMP/E 3.4 - IBM Order Server Performance

2007-06-06 Thread Mark Zelden
Brian, I do plan on opening problems in the future based on the information you gave before. But my job I submitted late yesterday afternoon for CONTENT(ALL) actually completed in about 90 minutes. This was a surprise since yesterday was a "new RSU/PUT levels are now available" email day -

Re: explicity coding for STORCLAS & DATACLAS

2007-06-06 Thread Bruce Black
If I using the following JCL to create a SMS dataset (explicitly but not ACS control) , the dataset allocated to non-sms volume. IEBDGEXEC PGM=IEBDG SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* OUT DD DSN=SSMD.TESTXX,DISP=(,CATLG), UNIT=(SYSDA,2),STORCLAS=SC4G,DATACLAS=DC4G, SPACE=(CYL,(2,10),RLSE),

Re: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-06 Thread Greg Shirey
Chris, It may not be "official" and it might not be in the manuals often, but "USS" can be found frequently in the texts of APARs and PTFs. Here's a quote from OA18832, for example: "Any further hints regarding predicting and interpreting the BPXBATCH return codes should be added to this DOC

MQ CPU Creep

2007-06-06 Thread Kelman, Tom
We recently installed MQ v6 along with z/OS v1.7. After this installation we started to see CPU usage creep in the MQ master of about 2% CPU per day on a 2096-107. The system started out using less than 1% of the processor on May 20 and by May 31 it was using 13% of the processor. We are current

Re: (untitled)

2007-06-06 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Since the initial command is in the RACF database and not the profile dataset, this won't help much. -Original Message- From: Raymond Noal [mailto:snip] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 4:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: If the user's TSO logon proc will allocate a new profile data

Re: Annd yet more pedantry( was: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications)

2007-06-06 Thread Kelman, Tom
OK, just to put in my two cents worth. I've seen where there are actually three types of abbreviations as follows. * A basic abbreviation is pronounced like the full word it represents. So 'St.' is pronounced 'Street' (or 'Saint'), 'Ct.' is pronounced 'Court', and 'Mr.' is pronounced '

Re: How do i install Linux on S/390 Machine

2007-06-06 Thread Howard Brazee
On 5 Jun 2007 14:35:42 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Just because GOOGLE can find it does not mean you can view it without your >SHARE userid. And if you can, something is broken because you should need >to sign in. How did Google view it without a SHARE ID? -

Re: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Why is this important? I just lost my job for the second time in three years! To me, you can call it what you want! Arguing about the meaning of USS just shows you don't have the weight of the world on your shoulders! This forum is meant for much better! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! --

Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-06 Thread Howard Brazee
On 5 Jun 2007 17:49:48 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >If your cow had wheels she'd be a milk truck. The point is that not >everybody knows what you means, because there are contexts in which >you need to refer to both Unix System Services *and* to Unformatted >System Services; what yo

Re: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications

2007-06-06 Thread Chris Mason
Radoslaw Oh no, again! Please, look at www.acronymfinder.com and find what USS can mean. *25 results*. Not two, 25. It is possible for acronym to have multiple meanings. So, it is not pedantry, it is wrong conviction, there the only one proper meaning. - What nonsense! This exchange is ta

Re: SMP/E 3.4 - IBM Order Server Performance

2007-06-06 Thread Brian Peterson
I opened a problem this morning regarding my RECEIVE ORDER timeout from last night (against component 566894901) for the following failure: GIM69147WSMP/E WAITED 120 MINUTES BUT ORDER ORD9 IS NOT READY FOR DOWNLOAD FROM THE SERVER AT ht

Re: Annd yet more pedantry( was: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications)

2007-06-06 Thread J R
From Webster: abbreviation: a shortened form of a written word or phrase used in place of the whole acronym: a word (as NATO, radar, or laser) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term; also : an abbreviation (as FBI) formed

Re: Where is storage taken for System Trace Table?

2007-06-06 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/6/2007 11:41:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>Schramm, Rob wrote: >> When I change the size of the System Trace Table (i.e. TRACE ST,512K), >> where is the storage taken from? >Common Name: Master Trace Table Mapping Macro Alas, the Ma

Re: Annd yet more pedantry( was: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications)

2007-06-06 Thread Howard Brazee
On 6 Jun 2007 10:15:27 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: > >I also agree with "S.Metz" that USS is an abreviation, not an acronym. >:-) I wonder - I guess for some of us, CICS is an abbreviation, for others an acronym.(I never say "kicks"). --

Re: Where is storage taken for System Trace Table?

2007-06-06 Thread Schramm, Rob
According to IBM the storage is from the private area of the TRACE address space. I checked it after issuing the command and it is being taken from above the 16 meg line private area. -Rob Schramm This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It

Re: Where is storage taken for System Trace Table?

2007-06-06 Thread Mark Jacobs
Binyamin Dissen wrote: Master trace is distinct from system trace. It can pretty much be mapped anywhere, as a CR points to the real address. One hopes IBM was smart enough to map it to a subpool in some system address space (rather than common). -- Binyami

Annd yet more pedantry( was: USS pedantry (was Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications)

2007-06-06 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 22:17:09 +0200, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >...>What is *primary* meaning of USS acronym ? Well, it depends. >For you and S.Metz it is always Unformatted System Services. ... > I also agree with "S.Metz" that USS is an abreviation, not an acronym. :-) Ok. I'll craw

Re: Bad Command in TSO logon panel

2007-06-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Should a user hit this rare problem, the most likely sequence of events is >that the user will contact Technical Support for problem diagnosis and >resolution, at which point involving a RACF SPECIAL user to perform the actual >fix should at most be a minor additional delay. GROUP SPECIAL sh

Re: Bad Command in TSO logon panel

2007-06-06 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 18:55:46 -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote: The default RACF behavior allows only a RACF SPECIAL user to issue the ALU command to update a user profile. It is possible for ane installation to explicitly grant users the authority to update specific fields in th

Re: mainframe acces using shared id

2007-06-06 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
borrowed snip from mr. fochtman. We have an issue in one our project. The project is deveopled to see who are using the system using the shared mainframe id. scenario. 1. There are some users who logon to the mainframe using the sharedid

Re: How do i install Linux on S/390 Machine

2007-06-06 Thread Tony Harminc
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 20:47:27 +0200, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Just curious: what policy ? > >Why people sometimes provide a link to a presentation at share.org and >everyone can download the presentation. >My guesses: >a) There is no such policy. Presentations are available to public. >b) Th

Re: Where is storage taken for System Trace Table?

2007-06-06 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 12:39:55 -0400 Mark Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>Schramm, Rob wrote: :>> When I change the size of the System Trace Table (i.e. TRACE ST,512K), :>> where is the storage taken from? :> Common Name: Master Trace Table Mapping Macro :> Macro ID:

MAINFRAME CUSTOMER BASE SEEMS TO SHRINK

2007-06-06 Thread Kopischke, David G.
Here's an interesting SearchDataCenter interview of our friend and past IBM-MAIN poster Vincent Re of CA: = MAINFRAME GURU LOOKS ON AS CUSTOMER BASE SEEMS TO SHRINK Mark Fontecchio, News Writer In this Q&A, a CA software arc

Re: mainframe acces using shared id

2007-06-06 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Rick Fochtman > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:14 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: mainframe acces using shared id > >

Re: Where is storage taken for System Trace Table?

2007-06-06 Thread Mark Jacobs
Schramm, Rob wrote: When I change the size of the System Trace Table (i.e. TRACE ST,512K), where is the storage taken from? -Rob Schramm Common Name: Master Trace Table Mapping Macro Macro ID: IEEZB806 DSECT Name:

Re: mainframe acces using shared id

2007-06-06 Thread Rick Fochtman
We have an issue in one our project. The project is deveopled to see who are using the system using the shared mainframe id. scenario. 1. There are some users who logon to the mainframe using the sharedid and common password and do some

Re: mainframe acces using shared id

2007-06-06 Thread Rugen, Len
> > We have discussed with this with the client, but client wants to use the > shared id's and need a workable solution to handle this. > Well, just make the 2nd login a "new" RACF (or pick your SAF) session. In essence, this is every CICS login anyway. When the CESN screen appears, you are run

Re: mainframe acces using shared id

2007-06-06 Thread Clark, Kevin
Raj, Since I am sure you aware that Best Practices say "Eliminate Share IDs", however it seems that you still authenticate the users first, then log them into the systems with this Shared Userid. To fix you issue maybe one of these may work. 1. Have pool of shared ID and assign the SHARED ID

Re: Help with UNIX abend

2007-06-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 19:51:34 -0400, Lizette Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Okay, I hate UNIX abend codes. They just do not seem to parse easily. So >would some kind soul help me understand this problem? > >+CEE0374C CONDITION=CEE3250C TOKEN=00040CB2 61C3C5C5 527 > WHILE RU

Re: mainframe acces using shared id

2007-06-06 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rajeev Vasudevan > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:29 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: mainframe acces using shared id > > > We have discussed with this with the client, but

Re: mainframe acces using shared id

2007-06-06 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 08:29:16 -0700, Rajeev Vasudevan wrote: >We have discussed with this with the client, but client wants to use the >shared id's and need a workable solution to handle this. So they have to log on with the shared password and then authenticate themselves with their own logon ID a

Re: mainframe acces using shared id

2007-06-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 08:29:16 -0700, Rajeev Vasudevan wrote: >We have discussed with this with the client, but client wants to use the >shared id's and need a workable solution to handle this. > Sometimes an ethical supplier needs simply to say, "No." -- gil --

Where is storage taken for System Trace Table?

2007-06-06 Thread Schramm, Rob
When I change the size of the System Trace Table (i.e. TRACE ST,512K), where is the storage taken from? -Rob Schramm This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in er

Re: mainframe acces using shared id

2007-06-06 Thread Rajeev Vasudevan
We have discussed with this with the client, but client wants to use the shared id's and need a workable solution to handle this. Thanks, Raj "Rugen, Len" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All the problems here show why shared id's just shouldn't be allowed. If the task can be done with indivi

Re: operator display command with response

2007-06-06 Thread Mark Yuhas
Assembler - EMCS. Documented in Chapter 7 of MVS Programming: Authorized Assembler Services Guide SA22-7608-09. REXX - Check the SHARE Proceedings from Long Beach. There was a session detailing the REXX instructions. -- For IB

Re: mainframe acces using shared id

2007-06-06 Thread Rugen, Len
All the problems here show why shared id's just shouldn't be allowed. If the task can be done with individual id's, create those and disable the shared id. The people you don't know about that used the shared id will call. -

Re: SMP/E 3.4 - IBM Order Server Performance

2007-06-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 08:43:50 -0500, David Magee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Overall I've had real good luck with the process including performance. >Then the last week or two I along with a couple of my peers have had >RECEIVE jobs time out more than once. Anyone heard of any changes >or problems o

Re: Help with UNIX abend

2007-06-06 Thread Jon Brock
>From horrid experience, I can recognize the 0F01C008 as a dubbing failure, >most likely a security problem, such as the lack of an OMVS segment (the 44 in >R1 supports this). As for finding the error codes, good luck. They are >harder to find than facts in a political speech. Jon -Or

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not

2007-06-06 Thread Richard Peurifoy
McKown, John wrote: QUOTE STRU R also works with RECFM=U. At least it does for me. But it is still impossible to transfer load modules / program objects except from z/OS to z/OS using the non standard z/OS ftp parameters. The only thing missing is the directory info. If you relink the transf

Re: 3390B DASD IFCC Reason Code 84

2007-06-06 Thread Patrick . Falcone
You might want to also check the code levels on the hardware in question. "(IBM Mainframe Discussion List)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 06/06/2007 10:06 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: 3390B DASD IFCC

mainframe acces using shared id

2007-06-06 Thread Rajeev Vasudevan
Hello, We have an issue in one our project. The project is deveopled to see who are using the system using the shared mainframe id. scenario. 1. There are some users who logon to the mainframe using the sharedid and common password and do some inquiry going to the cics region.

Omegamon ZLPAR and AUTO Refresh

2007-06-06 Thread Grine, Janet [GCG-PFS]
(Forgot subject in original entry.) Hey Listers, I am fairly new to Omegamon and its ZLPAR screen. Does anyone know how to modify the auto-refresh rate for this screen? I have searched many manuals, the net, etc. etc. What I do find either doesn't work or I am using it incorrectly. Th

Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?

2007-06-06 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. a couple recent items: The death of single threaded development http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=519 Google Acquires Multicore Programming Startup PeakStream -- Multit

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2007-06-06 Thread Grine, Janet [GCG-PFS]
Hey Listers, I am fairly new to Omegamon and its ZLPAR screen. Does anyone know how to modify the auto-refresh rate for this screen? I have searched many manuals, the net, etc. etc. What I do find either doesn't work or I am using it incorrectly. That is the commond AUTO 15 SECONDS. Can

Re: 3390B DASD IFCC Reason Code 84

2007-06-06 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/5/2007 10:55:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I have not been able to find command descriptions for the CCW commands 4B, A5, A6, or E7 when accessing DASD. 4B is Locate Record Extended. It is documented in the 3990 and 2105 Control Unit R

Re: SMP/E 3.4 - IBM Order Server Performance

2007-06-06 Thread David Magee
Overall I've had real good luck with the process including performance. Then the last week or two I along with a couple of my peers have had RECEIVE jobs time out more than once. Anyone heard of any changes or problems on IBM's end of things? ---

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not

2007-06-06 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:51 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not > > > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not

2007-06-06 Thread Sam Golob
Hi Folks, There's something on the CBT Tape that may help you guys with the problem of accurately sending files from one place to another. Check out www.cbttape.org , CBT File 365. Here's the beginning of the blurb. FILE 365 IS FROM RON MACRAE OF AMDAHL, UK. THIS FILE CONTAINS A

Re: operator display command with response

2007-06-06 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
SDSF REXX interface. /* REXX */ "CONSOLE ACTIVATE" "CONSPROF SOLDISPLAY(NO) SOLNUM(100)" ADDRESS CONSOLE "d a,l" DISPMSG = ''

Re: operator display command with response

2007-06-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
I forgot to add that if you use the OPER Command you may have to hit enter a second time for TSO to bring the response back to your TSO session. Lizette > Well, you might try the TSO OPER command. Depending on your authority you > can probably do quite a bit. > > When I get into OPER and issue

Re: operator display command with response

2007-06-06 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Harold Zbiegien > > Anyone know of any program that I could issue an operator > display type command and receive back the response? > > Something like a vtam programmed operator but for system commands. SDSF? -j

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