Re: Wikipedia?

2007-10-03 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Good morning Paul, If you are quite sure there are things wrong and you don't feel comfortable fixing them, then you can always make the suggestion on the Discussion page, hoping the original author or someone else fixes it. As for the z/VM person about whom you spoke, I believe you are talking

Re: IBM Sales Manual

2007-10-03 Thread Birger Heede
Carlos, could it be this one you are looking for ? http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss Birger Heede IBM Denmark Carlos A. Bodra wrote: Hello Until some time ago I had access to IBM Sales Manual at following link: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/redirect/redirect.html?buttonpressed=DET00

Re: System REXX for z/OS R8 Web Deliverable - Fixed!

2007-10-03 Thread George Fogg
Marna: Thought I'll go ahead and ask, but I have the idea you will say NO--just like someone said NO for SDSF REXX support so Does the V1R8 web SYSREXX deliverable also support REXX checks in V1R8 Health Checker? George Fogg -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mail

Re: Peer-to-Peer VTS and IBM ATL Specialist

2007-10-03 Thread Michael Pratt
Hi Kees, Thanks for your reply, and yes, I mean Peer-to-Peer using B20's and not the TS7700 grid scenario. Without going into too much depth on the commercial trauma, the infrastructure has been literally 'sitting around' for more than 12- months. In case extra info is good in any case: We ar

Re: FW: Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code

2007-10-03 Thread John P Baker
Jon, I have little confidence that a realistic performance metric can be devised other than on a case by case basis. There are simply too many variables to be considered. For example, consider the differences in complexity between a RACF security exit and a CICS task related user exit. Each req

Re: C++ programs on the Mainframe (PDSE?)

2007-10-03 Thread Michael J Flores
Thanks Wayne, So evidently the current environment is not utilizing the DLL feature, since the load is available without the program object. Thanks again. Regards, Michael J Flores Triumph Performance and Technical Architecture Office#: 602.537.7511 cell 801 608-0270 [EMAIL PROTECTED] America

IBM Sales Manual

2007-10-03 Thread Carlos A. Bodra
Hello Until some time ago I had access to IBM Sales Manual at following link: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/redirect/redirect.html?buttonpressed=DET001PT099×tamp=99&DET001PGL002=DET001PEF012&appname=IBMLinkRedirect But now I get a "Sorry Screen" Anyone can tell me where I can foun

(fwd) Creating a full file test environment

2007-10-03 Thread Clark F Morris
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:10:33 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main bwstorts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We are planning a full file test environment to better test our >applications. Currently, our testing happens on our production lpar >with very small vsam and DB2 files. We plan on mirroring our >appl

Re: C++ programs on the Mainframe (PDSE?)

2007-10-03 Thread Wayne Driscoll
The short answer, you can't copy objects from a PDS/E to a PDS Load Module Library. The longer answer: In order to build a C++ DLL, the binder cannot build a load module, instead it needs to build a "program object." While a load module can exist in a PDS or a PDS/E, a program object MUST reside

C++ programs on the Mainframe (PDSE?)

2007-10-03 Thread Michael J Flores
During installation of some software, I received object code in two formats (PDS & PDSE). I beleive the objects in the PDSE are C++ programs (there's DLL in the member names). To eliminate/reduce CICS outages is there a way to combine the objects from the PDSE library to the PDS library. The P

Re: FTP of fixed file off the mainframe

2007-10-03 Thread Wahak Vachi Kontian
Try adding the statement: TrailingBlanks True; to your TCPIP.FTP.DATA, or specify "LOCSITE TrailingBlanks" in your FTP's INPUT statements. NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing i

Re: FTP of fixed file off the mainframe

2007-10-03 Thread Michael J Flores
Were you sending the file to the mainframe or from the mainframe? If you were sending to the mainframe you would have to provide the DCB information using the QUOTE SITE COMMAND to reflect record size (i.e. recl=80) record format (i.e. recfm=f). Regards, Michael J Flores Triumph Performance an

Re: Wikipedia?

2007-10-03 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Wikipedia contains an article on Finnish profanity, including some pages dedicated to specific swear words (in Finnish) with still more links to the same word in Latvian, Polish, Lithuanian, Prussian, and Slovenian. On a scale of "cat" to obscurity*infinity-1, MVS related pages fit in quite nicely

Migration from z900 to z9

2007-10-03 Thread Mark Jacobs
Next weekend we are swaping out a z900 to a z9 processor. One of the lpars that are being moved to the new processor is running several unsupported ISV products under zOS 1.7. Can someone list the changes in the z9 architecture whish might have an adverse effect on these applications? I don't kno

Re: FTP of fixed file off the mainframe

2007-10-03 Thread Big Iron
There is an FTP TRAILINGBLANKS option that applies to fixed length records. You can change the default setting with the SITE command: quote site trailingblanks IIRC. Bill On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 14:37:47 -0600, Howard Brazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am FTPing a fixed record length file fr

Re: FTP of fixed file off the mainframe

2007-10-03 Thread Johnson, Jared
You might try the "BIN" flag before sending it. >I'm trying to find out whether the spaces got truncated in my FTP or >whether it happened later. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [E

Re: FTP of fixed file off the mainframe

2007-10-03 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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Re: FTP of fixed file off the mainframe

2007-10-03 Thread John Kington
Howard, Do you have trailingblanks specified? If the mainframe is the client, set it with locsite trailingblanks If the mainframe is the server set it with quote site trailingblanks Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / sign

Re: racf

2007-10-03 Thread Skip Robinson
As others have noted, upper case only is the default. If you haven't played with mixed case at all, then you're good to go. Once you've turned on mixed case, however, getting back to upper only requires several steps of back tracking. If you miss any of those steps, some people won't be able to log

Re: CA:Allocate

2007-10-03 Thread Lucy Arnold
I Love Allocate! You can do SO many different things with it. I have never used anything else, except DFSMS which we still have. I can send you some Copybooks that we have and my VDSPROG (ASR) if you want to see it. Lucy Arnold Storage Manager U.C. Davis Medical Center 916-734-5498

Re: FW: Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code

2007-10-03 Thread Jon Brock
OK, for those who have (rightly) pointed out the problems with LOC as a performance measure: what can we come up with that would be better? Ted mentioned function points. Is there anything else? Measuring stuff is a large part of our job; do we have any worthwhile metrics? Jon

Re: Wikipedia?

2007-10-03 Thread R.S.
Martin Packer wrote: Does anyone else following this list contribute to the mainframe-related pages on Wikipedia? For instance, I just added the page for Unit Control Block, pointed to by the disambiguation page for UCB. Wikipedia might not be the right forum for such material (and I'd be the

FTP of fixed file off the mainframe

2007-10-03 Thread Howard Brazee
I am FTPing a fixed record length file from the mainframe to a Unix box where a vendor has access to pick up that file and FTP it to his machine. I don't know what kind of machine he has, but he's saying that he's missing my space fill for the shorter records. The first thing I verified is th

Re: Wikipedia?

2007-10-03 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
>Does anyone else following this list contribute to the >mainframe-related pages on Wikipedia? >Opinions? Wikipedia is an absolutely AMAZING knowledge base. I love the way it works. I realize there will be nay-sayers that will mention its not always accurate, but ultimately, its self-healing. T

QTP (Quick Test Professional) MAcros from mainframe emulator

2007-10-03 Thread Jacky Bright
Hi , This is bouncer for me ... but any one who can help ... Does anyone an idea about QTP (Quick Test Professional) which can be used to create MACROS from mainframe emulator screen which can be reused ? JAcky -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: High Water Mark for a HLQ

2007-10-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
What do you mean by High Level Water mark? There is no limit to the number of files that can be created on the mainframe unless there are exits or processes put in place. Please provide a clearer statement of what you are looking for or supply examples. Bassically all datasets created in an MV

Re: Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code

2007-10-03 Thread Robert Fake
Reminds me as well of a bank's audio teller code (Assembler) I was made responsible for when I was about 20 and the comments were in German :-) Bob Robert B. Fake InfoSec, Inc. 703-825-1202 (o) 571-241-5492 (c) 949-203-0406 (efax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at www.infosecinc.com -Original Me

Re: GRS Joining Complex

2007-10-03 Thread Scott Fagen
Thoughts interspersed below: On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:24:14 +, John P Donnelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >we just moved from V1R4 to V1R7 29SEP07 >we had a Test LPAR executing V1R7 and a Prod LPAR executing V1R4 >these two happily coexisted with GRS as PLEXCFG=MONOPLEX, and system >logger files

Re: Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code

2007-10-03 Thread Kelman, Tom
> > > More specifically, I'm looking at this from a maintenance perspective. > If I > > give a programmer an existing program to modify, how long on average > will it > > take, per line of code, to analyze the program to then be able to then > make > > necessary changes. > > No way to predict. >

Re: High Water Mark for a HLQ

2007-10-03 Thread Matthew Stitt
I think you asked this question before. I've used the TALLY exec which can be found on file 183 at the CBT tape site. www.cbttape.org On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:45:22 -0500, gsg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Does anyone know how to get the absolute HWM for a HLQ. Standard tools, >ISV tools etc... --

Wikipedia?

2007-10-03 Thread Martin Packer
Does anyone else following this list contribute to the mainframe-related pages on Wikipedia? For instance, I just added the page for Unit Control Block, pointed to by the disambiguation page for UCB. Wikipedia might not be the right forum for such material (and I'd be the first to admit that UC

Re: racf

2007-10-03 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Carroll, William > > We are almost ready to go live with zos 1.7. > Is there a way to keep racf password upper/lower all Upper > like it is under 1.4. Sure: "Do nothing". -jc- -

Re: B-A-D

2007-10-03 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:35:59 -0400, Peter Relson wrote: > > >... > >However "dumb" a behavior might be, there is usually a pretty good > chance > >that changing that behavior will break someone. We

Re: IBMLink Web down again 3270 seems OK SEV1 ticket # 33328838

2007-10-03 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
I was logged on and can no longer get to my ETRs. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imbriale, Donald Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: FW: Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code

2007-10-03 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:18:46 -0400, Art Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >There is a series of metrics known as the Halstead Complexity Measures. >While there seems to be significantly differing opinions as to how valid >these are, you might want to check them out. >... I'd been meaning to

Re: racf

2007-10-03 Thread Jay Howard
>We are almost ready to go live with zos 1.7. >Is there a way to keep racf password upper/lower all >Upper like it is under 1.4. Do nothing, the default is NOMIXEDCASE. Thanks, Jay Howard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: IBMLink Web down again 3270 seems OK SEV1 ticket # 33328838

2007-10-03 Thread Imbriale, Donald
Sam, thanks for staying on top of this. Is it the authentication service again? If you were already logged in, are you affected? Just trying to figure out if I should automatically log in at the beginning of each day and stay on, even if I might not need IBMLink that day. Don Imbriale -Origi

Re: CA:Allocate

2007-10-03 Thread gsg
Lucy, How do you like CA-Allocate? What are you using it for? We are looking at it to possibly replace StopX37 and to provide reports on the absolute HWM by HLQ. What were you using before? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signof

Re: IBMLink Web down again 3270 seems OK SEV1 ticket # 33328838

2007-10-03 Thread Knutson, Sam
SEV1 ticket # 33328838 Uptime ETA 4PM EST Thanks, Sam This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibite

Re: racf

2007-10-03 Thread Edward Jaffe
Carroll, William wrote: We are almost ready to go live with zos 1.7. Is there a way to keep racf password upper/lower all Upper like it is under 1.4. That is the default behavior. To get different behavior, you must explicitly enable the mixed-case password feature. Check your RACF system

High Water Mark for a HLQ

2007-10-03 Thread gsg
Does anyone know how to get the absolute HWM for a HLQ. Standard tools, ISV tools etc... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Sear

racf

2007-10-03 Thread Carroll, William
We are almost ready to go live with zos 1.7. Is there a way to keep racf password upper/lower all Upper like it is under 1.4. Bill Carroll EMAIL DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this message may be privileged or confidential and is protected from disclosure. If the reader of this mess

IBMLink Web down again 3270 seems OK SEV1 ticket being created

2007-10-03 Thread Knutson, Sam
Nuff said... Thanks, Sam This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended rec

Re: B-A-D

2007-10-03 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:35:59 -0400, Peter Relson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >However "dumb" a behavior might be, there is usually a pretty good chance >that changing that behavior will break someone. We thus tend to make such >changes in "the next release" where feasible (and highlight the

Re: OA19194: AMATERSE - Now Available for z/OS 1.7/1.8

2007-10-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 18:12:50 +0100, Martin Packer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Apparently the smart money's on continuing to use TRSMAIN with the >existing DDs if you have pre-existing jobs as the new entry point uses >different DD names. I'm not sure if anything else is different. (This from >a ses

Re: VSAM Extended Format and DFSMS

2007-10-03 Thread Richards.Bob
Lizette, My recommendation is a common pool, especially if you are using logical volume sizes greater than 3390-9s. I cannot think of a good reason for a separate pool. Also, assuming KSDS here, I would work on the goal of making VSAMEF the default. Otherwise, you remain in the filtlist updating g

recovering cobol source code

2007-10-03 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Does anyone know of any product can take old cobol/vs load modules and recreate the source code for it. I heard of something called 'Source Recovery' but it is very expensive. Thanks list -- For IBM-MAIN subsc

Re: OA19194: AMATERSE - Now Available for z/OS 1.7/1.8

2007-10-03 Thread Martin Packer
Apparently the smart money's on continuing to use TRSMAIN with the existing DDs if you have pre-existing jobs as the new entry point uses different DD names. I'm not sure if anything else is different. (This from a session at Expo by the "Stand-Up (z/OS) Philosopher". :-) Cheers, Martin Martin

Re: VSAM Extended Format and DFSMS

2007-10-03 Thread John Kington
Lizette > I am just starting to have to added support for VSAM EF in our > environment. I was wondering if there was any consensus as to what > to do with them. > > Do you have them in their own pool? > Do you combine them in a common pool? > I never saw any reason to treat them differently than

Re: VSAM Extended Format and DFSMS

2007-10-03 Thread Adams, Rick
Hi Lizette. We place them in a combined pool in our environment and have had no issues doing so. We have been doing this for quite some time now. ThanksRick -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday,

OA19194: AMATERSE - Now Available for z/OS 1.7/1.8

2007-10-03 Thread Mark Zelden
APAR Identifier .. OA19194 Last Changed 07/10/03 NEW FUNCTION - AMATERSE, ALIAS TRSMAIN, IS A SUPPORTED SERVICE AID FUNCTION Symptom .. NF FUNCTION Status ... CLOSED UR1 Severity ... 4 Date Closed . 07/09/14 Component

VSAM Extended Format and DFSMS

2007-10-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am just starting to have to added support for VSAM EF in our environment. I was wondering if there was any consensus as to what to do with them. Do you have them in their own pool? Do you combine them in a common pool? I have the data class already set up. I am having the users code the DAT

Re: #XAAINTR not found

2007-10-03 Thread Yee, Bob
The load module #XAAINTR cannot not be loaded. Check the STEPLIB/LOADLIB or it's not on the LINKLIST. If you need further assistance, customers can open a call on at http://frontline.compuware.com Thanks. >Good afternoon, > >I have a user getting this message. Does anyone on this list have an

Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread Edward Jaffe
Tom Marchant wrote: On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 08:53:12 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Tom Marchant wrote: Just to nit pick a little... It is not a 0C4, but a PIC 4. 0C4 is not an interruption, but the abend code that MVS produces when it is unable to resolve the program interruption. An

Re: #XAAINTR not found

2007-10-03 Thread Knutson, Sam
Compuware ABEND-AID -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: #XAAINTR not found Good afternoon, I have a user getting this message. Does anyone on this

Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 08:53:12 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >Tom Marchant wrote: >> >> Just to nit pick a little... It is not a 0C4, but a PIC 4. 0C4 is not an >> interruption, but the abend code that MVS produces when it is unable to >> resolve the program interruption. > >And, to nit pick a bit mor

Re: #XAAINTR not found

2007-10-03 Thread Gary Sponseller
Bruce, #XAAINTR is an Abend-Aid routine... Hope this helps, Gary On 3 Oct 2007, at 12:17 PM, Bruce wrote: Good afternoon, I have a user getting this message. Does anyone on this list have any idea what #XAAINTR is and what might be calling it??? Bruce Barcome Pitney Bowes Software [EMAIL

Re: #XAAINTR not found

2007-10-03 Thread Brian Peterson
That's AbendAid from Compuware. Brian On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:17:03 -0400, Bruce wrote: >Good afternoon, > >I have a user getting this message. Does anyone on this list have any >idea what #XAAINTR is and what might be calling it??? > >Bruce Barcome ---

FW: Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code

2007-10-03 Thread Art Golden
Bob, There is a series of metrics known as the Halstead Complexity Measures. While there seems to be significantly differing opinions as to how valid these are, you might want to check them out. /* Beginning of advertisement */ FYI, we market a product that will generate these statistics for

Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman > > > It's a very complex relationship and not always easily > understood. When is a SLOT assigned? A FRAME? When is a page > "STOLEN"? SWAPPING versus PAGIN

#XAAINTR not found

2007-10-03 Thread Bruce
Good afternoon, I have a user getting this message. Does anyone on this list have any idea what #XAAINTR is and what might be calling it??? Bruce Barcome Pitney Bowes Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / sig

Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 10/3/2007 9:41:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does the 2 week internal course still exist? I remember taking it from Amdahl in their education center in Columbia Maryland back in 1982. I don't think IBM gave the class anymore, or else they qu

Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
I spent the whole day reviewing my understanding about the concept of virtual storage and found something I cannot figure out. I hope experts here can give me some hints. Maybe I should start from GETMAIN. I have used GETMAIN/FREEMAIN for some time

Re: High Water Mark for a HLQ

2007-10-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:48:47 -0500, gsg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Does anyone know how to get a high water mark for a particular HLQ. >Meaning how much space this HLQ (application) is using? > Lots of ways. DCOLLECT, products like MXG, MICS, etc. I have used the VTOC command from the CBT file

Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread Johnny Luo
Wayne, Thanks a lot. That's the confirmation I need. Acutally everything in MVS world is complicated than I expected. So many factors, so many variations. Thus learning it is a never-ending process. Johnny On 10/3/07, Wayne Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Johnny, > This is an extremely c

Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread Edward Jaffe
Tom Marchant wrote: In a message dated 10/3/2007 9:39:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the first reference, the hardware will recognize an 0C4, which will be handled by the OS on your behalf and RSM and ASM will get involved to locate a page for you. Yo

High Water Mark for a HLQ

2007-10-03 Thread gsg
Does anyone know how to get a high water mark for a particular HLQ. Meaning how much space this HLQ (application) is using? TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 10/3/2007 10:19:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Just to nit pick a little... It is not a 0C4, but a PIC 4. 0C4 is not an interruption, but the abend code that MVS produces when it is unable to resolve the program interruption. Ah, good catc

Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:58:42 -0400, Wayne Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >That is true, and it is also the reason that in the MVS System Commands >manual, in the chapter on SLIP, it strongly recommends never setting a >global slip for 0C4's. > No. The PIC 4 page fault is not processed by RT

Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 10/03/2007 10:58:42 AM: > That is true, and it is also the reason that in the MVS System Commands > manual, in the chapter on SLIP, it strongly recommends never setting a > global slip for 0C4's. > > Wayne Driscoll > Product Developer > JME Software LLC >

Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:52:05 EDT, IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote: > > >In a message dated 10/3/2007 9:39:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>On the >first reference, the hardware will recognize an 0C4, which will be >handled by the OS on your behalf and RSM and ASM wil

Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread Wayne Driscoll
That is true, and it is also the reason that in the MVS System Commands manual, in the chapter on SLIP, it strongly recommends never setting a global slip for 0C4's. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM

White space and GCL

2007-10-03 Thread Errol Van staden
Does anyone out there know whether two LPARS in A capacity group, would steal resource from each other first, or form "white space" if it were available? Let's assume LPAR Prod = 200 MIPS LPAR Dev =100 mips. There is white space available of 100 MIPS. Prod reaches 100% and starts sneaking above

Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 10/3/2007 9:39:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >On the first reference, the hardware will recognize an 0C4, which will be handled by the OS on your behalf and RSM and ASM will get involved to locate a page for you. Your program will NOT see this

Re: Change in IBM's mainframe strategy

2007-10-03 Thread Errol Van staden
My reason for saying what I did is that outsourcers can offer major price benefits to a company (ABC) running it's own system by bringing ABC on board it's huge Processing complex and then (if needed) aggragating the sysplex MSUs together and thus reducing the licence fees of ABC (as well as its

Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Does the 2 week internal course still exist? I remember taking it from Amdahl in their education center in Columbia Maryland back in 1982. I don't think IBM gave the class anymore, or else they quit shortly after. I think about 5 teachers taught the Amdahl class when I took it. It was very

Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Johnny, This is an extremely complicated process, based on a number of factors, many of which your program has no control. However, your guess is usually correct, in that if the page returned has never been allocated to your program, then no real or aux storage will be allocated. On the first ref

Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 10/3/2007 6:57:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So GETMAIN/FREEMAIN has no direct relation to virtual storage backing up: when you GETMAIN, it doesn't mean OS will try to back up that area and FREEMAIN doesn't mean that area will be released like w

Re: B-A-D

2007-10-03 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 10/3/2007 5:15:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On this and other discussion lists, IBMers regurlarly state that only official methods (as stated in formal contracts) are to be used when complaining about problems. >> Yeah, but that's the be

Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?

2007-10-03 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Choice Overload In Parallel Programming http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/07/10/03/0021253.shtml from above: "And then we show them the parallel programmi

Re: RMM - Problems with special EXPDT and VRS

2007-10-03 Thread Alex B Nielsen
Hi Mike. Ok i understand now. My problem now is to convert these TLMS's RMF defs. to RMM : EXPDT=990cc Cycle control (cc specifies the number of cycles) EXPDT=991dd Catalog control and date control(Volume will not be sent to scratch unless the dataset's is not cataloged and there has gone dd

GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-03 Thread Johnny Luo
Hello, GROUP I spent the whole day reviewing my understanding about the concept of virtual storage and found something I cannot figure out. I hope experts here can give me some hints. Maybe I should start from GETMAIN. I have used GETMAIN/FREEMAIN for some time in my programming exercises and on

Re: IODF convert backwards - updated with example

2007-10-03 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Thank you very much . I could generate a new IODF and I could IPL the RESCUE system - I used as STEPLIB the sys1.linklib from RESCUE - I used the sys1.maclib also from the RESCUE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: RMM - Problems with special EXPDT and VRS

2007-10-03 Thread Mike Wood
Alex, The solution I described goes on covering existing and new data sets as long as you run with EDGUX100 and have the special VRS MV VRSes defined to RMM - no matter what mode you run in. Verify that the data sets using special EXPDTs list something like this Data set name = SUPPORT.VRCY

Re: B-A-D

2007-10-03 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Peter Relson wrote: >Please don't give up on bringing these situations to our attention. Are there any official or formal IBM announcement(s) or notes related to your personal note? This is to clarify the word 'our'. On this and other discussion lists, IBMers regurlarly state that only official