Re: Outsmarting WLM

>You'd need to count the number of idle BPXASs and decide then >if and how many to "create". Idle ones are those which show >up as "BPXAS" in a D A,BPXAS. Haven't thought about how to >get that information in the keep-alive program, I admit. And Johns suggestion to use modify There goes the '

Re: About dispatching process

Peter, as far as I know the restart interrupt from the HMC with options abend-resume-repair are supposed to correspond to the spin(resume)-retry(repair)-term(abend) options of automatic exspin recovery. If you ever want to test this again, put your PHUNLOOP job into sysstc - improves the chanc

Re: About dispatching process

>Now I think Dispatcher runs of what is called a WEB(Work element >block), although I suspect it is still looks at WCF to determine >if it wants to dipstach the TCB. > >I am curious when was the last time they changed the Dispatcher >code!!! The last major change was done with MVS/ESA V5, but I

Re: tso racf

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:38:03 -0400, Binyamin Dissen wrote: > >What PCF did well was protect APF authorized CPs. > >You could not circumvent PCF unless you had the ability to write into an APF >library, which if you can - you can do whatever you want anyway. Oh yes I could (and did)! I could ru

Re: Full DASD Volume Copy

But one possible cautionary note that I would want to check on before saying the VTOCIX and VVDS names are immaterial: If you do a DFDSS COPY with DUMPCONDITIONING to another online DASD volume (which preserves the volser of the target so it can stay online and then be source of a DUMP), wi

Re: tso racf

> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:04:56 -0700, George Fogg wrote: > >>BTW, does the ISPF exits run authorized? I read the manual but not quite >>sure if they do. > > George, > It doesn't matter (much) whether the exits are authorized or not if all you do > is issue a WTO to alert your automation package tha

ASTE, Linkage Table Origin, and PC's

This one has me totally stumped. The POPs manual in chapter 5 explains the mechanism used for PC number translation. I've got a z/os 1.6 system with DB2 V8 up. On my machine, bit 44 of control reg 0 is off, so I believe the PC translation process is the same as it has always been. I use the

Re: tso racf

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:11:33 -0500 Tom Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>I well understood what PCF's goal was, but my point was that it was FAR too :>easy to circumvent the command 'control' portion. As long as you (or a friend) :>had program access to ANY library that you could execute fr

Re: tso racf

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:04:56 -0700, George Fogg wrote: >BTW, does the ISPF exits run authorized? I read the manual but not quite >sure if they do. George, It doesn't matter (much) whether the exits are authorized or not if all you do is issue a WTO to alert your automation package that it is sa

Re: IBM System/3 & 3277-1

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc,alt.folklore.computers,bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I could read ASCII from a paper tape. Took me a while. :-) previous post in this thread: http://www.garlic.com

Re: ServerPac master catalog flag

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:06:56 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/21/2007 > at 05:07 AM, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >>CH MCAT N > >Interesting: according to the documentation that shouldn't work, although >it did. > >Thanks. > W

Re: Dynamic ISPF panels?

> >> Does anyone know how best to create dynamic panel definitions?> >> > > Two > >> ideas. Scrollable menus, or dynamic areas.> > Or scrollable dynamic areas.:-) To see an example, click the link below. Dave SaltSee the new SimpList(tm) rollover image at:http://www.mackinney.com/product

Re: SMS Data class for 3494

Hi George, On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 08:29:03 -0500, George Dranes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We have a 3494 ATL with 3590 drives. When we initially set this up, the >Magstar Redbook I used said to leave the volume count for the data class as >1 since it is not used for tape. Yet I see IBM documenta

OT: TJX Update

* Scope of TJX data breach doubles: 94M cards now said to be affected http://cwflyris.computerworld.com/t/2246270/20890881/84579/2/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: ServerPac master catalog flag

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:45:53 -0400, John Eells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Exclude any data sets that you do not want to change (through >line command X) and press Enter. > When I posted my response I wrote: "To get the list down to just the CPAC dsns... list by LVOLUME" I forgot you do

Fw: Dynamic ISPF panels?

- Original Message - From: "Cloink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:24 AM Subject: Dynamic ISPF panels? My company is soon to move away from something called Roscoe which has a programming facility similar to ISPF/CLIST/REXX in

Re: New memory technology

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:40:31 -0500, McKown, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/34506/113/ > >This is about "resistor based memory". What is neat is that it is >supposed to be non-volitale, faster than DRAM, take less power than >DRAM, and be able to code mul

Re: About dispatching process

-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Santosh Kandi Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 1:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: About dispatching process Since "DISABLED" applies to only I/O and External interrupts, if you dont w

Re: About dispatching process

Since "DISABLED" applies to only I/O and External interrupts, if you dont want to used Restart interrupt(for whatever mysterious reason), I am curious If I can induce a Machine check without actually messing with the pysical machine..:) Also more thoughts on Dispatcher.. In the old 360 days,

Re: ServerPac master catalog flag

Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote: In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/21/2007 at 05:07 AM, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: CH MCAT N Interesting: according to the documentation that shouldn't work, although it did. Thanks. What documentation are you looking at? I think Appendix A.7 in

Re: tso racf

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 09:55 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: > Perhaps the users targeted for this behavior don't know how to type > LOGOFF at the READY prompt. Harumph. MY users generally just click the little 'X' on the top right corner of the emulator screen and let LOSTERM sort it out. Makes me n

Re: About dispatching process

>I think the default exspin order is spin-abend-term generating >abend071 rsn10, 30, 20. Second pass through exspin recovery >is allowed to retry, third pass through not. That usually takes >care of all spin loops, unless they were caused by something >that makes the component that is *validly*

Re: Healthcheck ((IBMCSV,CSV_APF_EXISTS)

For me it works I get the expected RC=99 RSN=14 for a HMIG. However I still believe such a condition (SMS-Managed, APF with SMS and migrated) shouldn't throw an expection for this healthcheck Roland -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Be

Re: "different" TSO logon proc, depending on system. Restricting whocanlogon to a specific system

One easy way that I've used over the years that two different very large sites is a generic logon proc that invokes a startup exec. The startup exec can do lots of things like testing which lpar you're on and customizing the libraries allocated based on that. Then to further customize things th

Re: ServerPac master catalog flag

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/21/2007 at 05:07 AM, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >CH MCAT N Interesting: according to the documentation that shouldn't work, although it did. Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: "different" TSO logon proc, depending on system. Restricting who can logon to a specific system

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:54:35 -0500, McKown, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I just had a minor flash of insight which I thought might be of interest >to people. Suppose you have multiple z/OS systems. Also suppose that you >share the RACF database. And suppose you want to have a __different__ >lo

Re: VARY too many devices offline

I had a problem with IPLing I think a year behind the current date. This was running under VM. VM was IPL'd with the wrong date, passing the date along to each guest. We had 5 DOS guests, one MVS guest, and one VS1 guest at the time. Thi

Re: VARY too many devices offline

-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VARY too many devices offline On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:17 AM, Zaromil Tisler wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:54

Re: "different" TSO logon proc, depending on system. Restricting who can logon to a specific system

Excellent idea, we use the JCL include to set up the joblibs and job variables that are global to every job of our applications. Sounds like just a different application of the same principle. Darren -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beha

Re: Healthcheck ((IBMCSV,CSV_APF_EXISTS)

Staller, Allan wrote: APF List Attribute Dataset Attribute Migration Result SMS managed SMS managedSuccessful <===!!! SMS managed Non-SMS managedSuccessful Non-SMS managed Non-SMS managedFailed Non-SMS managed

Re: Outsmarting WLM

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:44 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Outsmarting WLM > > > >>Wouldn't is be sufficient to run the "keep BPXAS alive

Re: Dynamic ISPF panels?

Cloink wrote: My company is soon to move away from something called Roscoe which has a programming facility similar to ISPF/CLIST/REXX in TSO. In Roscoe, 'on the fly'/dynamic panel definitions can be created to display output and/or accept user input; these are especially useful when accommodati

Re: Outsmarting WLM

>When I finally lost patience with the jes2 is stuck >messages I implemented the following: >f bpxoinit,shutdown=forkinit as one of the very first thing >- I think that disables new bpxas's from being created. No, this command only asks *idle* BPXASs to terminate immediately. You can happily star

Re: Healthcheck ((IBMCSV,CSV_APF_EXISTS)

Peter, et. al. My results: APF List Attribute Dataset Attribute Migration Result SMS managed SMS managedSuccessful SMS managed Non-SMS managedSuccessful Non-SMS managed Non-SMS managedFailed Non-SMS managed

"different" TSO logon proc, depending on system. Restricting who can logon to a specific system

I just had a minor flash of insight which I thought might be of interest to people. Suppose you have multiple z/OS systems. Also suppose that you share the RACF database. And suppose you want to have a __different__ logon proc for people, depending on which system they log on to. Now, RACF only sup

Re: tso racf

Ted MacNEIL wrote: That way you know the user was safely tucked into ISPF. Why do we care? What problem are we solving by restricting access to the READY prompt? I've already asked this question; received no response. Perhaps the users targeted for this behavior don't know how to type

Re: Another squirrel strike

Actually it took half the campus down! Darren On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Phil Payne wrote: >ISTR one of their number taking hte list down a while back ... > >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/24/kamikaze_squirrel/ > >-- > Phil Payne > http://www.isham-research.co.uk > +44 7833 654 800 > >---

Re: Another squirrel strike

>From the article Phil linked to: As a rather poignant footnote, the Jersey Journal notes that the Millars' house is fully decked out in anticipation of Halloween, "complete with a tiny plastic tombstone on their front lawn". Tony Millar said the family "will consider dedicating the tombstone to t

Re: tso racf

-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: tso racf >That way you know the user was safely tucked into ISPF. Why do we care? What problem are we sol

Re: Outsmarting WLM

>>Wouldn't is be sufficient to run the "keep BPXAS alive" >>program periodically, say every 15 minutes? The new childs >>would use idle BPXASs and WLM would create new ones if the >>overall system load permits this. > >Well, I don't want to unnecessarily create new BPXASs when >the system is al

FW: Can CICS/ESA 4.1 using APPC/LU6.2 Run on a z9 BC?

If you will be installing a z9 BC, and you are running CICS/ESA 4.1 and you are using APPC, you may want to ask IBM about AN5718I, at least that was the name on the usermod they sent. Initial testing seems to indicate that this corrected both the APPC and CICS Windows problems we had when runni

New memory technology

Not from or about IBM, per se. But I hope that general computing information might be of interest to most of us. http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/34506/113/ This is about "resistor based memory". What is neat is that it is supposed to be non-volitale, faster than DRAM, take less power than DRA

Re: Outsmarting WLM

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz > > [ snip ] > > >- Make sure you can stop the mechanism when sutting down z/OS for IPL. > >Part of the shutdown process is to stop all BPXASs to allow JES to come > >down. If you trigger by the "BPXAS

Re: tso racf

i never said i liked the approach i was asked to do. as a matter of fact i dont. but, i kind of like to eat.etc... so , i am trying to do what my boss has asked me to do. we all have little quirks, so this isnt no big deal. i really do appreciate all of your comments and suggjestions. i will p

Another squirrel strike

ISTR one of their number taking hte list down a while back ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/24/kamikaze_squirrel/ -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.co.uk +44 7833 654 800 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: tso racf

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:26 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: tso racf > > > >That way you know the user was safely tucked into ISPF. > > Why do we care?

Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

What is the real problem you are trying to solve? -Original Message- From: John Dawes [mailto:snip] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS I am in a bind, can I rename a storage class? I am hesitant to try it out beca

Re: Outsmarting WLM

>Wouldn't is be sufficient to run the "keep BPXAS alive" program >periodically, say every 15 minutes? The new childs would use idle >BPXASs and WLM would create new ones if the ovefrall system load >permits this. Well, I don't want to unnecessarily create new BPXASs when the system is already bu

Re: JES2 / JES3 in same plex

Thanks to all who have responded. per request from others, please respond to the list so all can see, I didn't think many folks would be interested in this topic. the JES3 side is currently using a product called OMC-Flash for the jes3/sdsf type of things. for those that have done this, any GR

Re: Healthcheck ((IBMCSV,CSV_APF_EXISTS)

Peter, APF list entry in PROGxx is : "APF ADD DSNAME(some.dataset) SMS" "some.dataset" is SMS managed, and is migrated to ML2. It is likely that at some point in the past on this system (or one of the other systems in the sysplex) that this dataset was migrated whilst NOT in the A

Re: Healthcheck ((IBMCSV,CSV_APF_EXISTS)

I want to thank everyone for trying out these scenarios and letting us know the results. Now I have some evidence with which to pursue this with the HSM folks. I will report back if I find anything out Perhaps Rob Scott and Allan Staller could confirm if Sam Knutson's and Ed Jaffe's (and othe

Re: About dispatching process

>I checked POO and yes, RESTART interruption cannot be disabled so at least >we have a final choice under such a situation. Well, in theory. The thing on a uni is that the only outward symptom of a spin loop would be absence of responses to TSO or to the short 'D T' command from a console. That

Re: Healthcheck ((IBMCSV,CSV_APF_EXISTS)

Hi, I agree the CSV_APF_EXISTS check is working correctly. I think DFSMShsm certainly can and should determine a data set is APF regardless of weather it was defined in the recommended way using SMS or incorrectly using a volume serial. SCP honors a volser specified for an SMS managed data for A

Re: About dispatching process

>So, Peter, as far as I know, the operator does not (directly) get >control after a Restart Interrupt. Yes, you do. I've been playing with this, just don't remember the exact messages and options you get. The system gives you the option to ABEND or RESUME the interrupted task. After all, it might

Re: About dispatching process

"Johnny Luo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Peter, > > I checked POO and yes, RESTART interruption cannot be disabled so at least > we have a final choice under such a situation. > > Never had the chance to use HMC (I guess the restart key must be there), Yes,

Re: About dispatching process

>Never had the chance to use HMC (I guess the restart key must be >there), do you mean after pressing it we will be prompted to select >the action to take? It used to be a physical button on a real console's keyboard. Since consoles are mostly plain PCs with 3270 emulators nowadays, that key i

Re: About dispatching process

Peter, I checked POO and yes, RESTART interruption cannot be disabled so at least we have a final choice under such a situation. Never had the chance to use HMC (I guess the restart key must be there), do you mean after pressing it we will be prompted to select the action to take? On 10/24/07,

Re: About dispatching process

>I must say it's very interesting. Suppose in a single-processor system, >I write some codes which cause a disabled loop. How to handle it? Press >'restart' key like what we usually react in a windows system? :) The difference being that you, the operator, get in control after pressing the resta

Re: About dispatching process

"Johnny Luo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Barbara, > > Just after I sent my question to the list, I searched the bookshelves using > the keyword 'loop' and surprisingly to find some useful information in a > diagnostic book. > > I think what the manual says i

Re: About dispatching process

Barbara, Just after I sent my question to the list, I searched the bookshelves using the keyword 'loop' and surprisingly to find some useful information in a diagnostic book. I think what the manual says is the same as what you said. In a MP system, a disabled loop is observed as a spin loop by o

Re: About dispatching process

Chris, Thanks for your confirmation. Peter, Yes, I overlooked the situation you mentioned :) On 10/24/07, Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >So to answer the questions, once disabled the system has no way > >to interrupt you and you can starve everyone else out. > > But if

Re: JES2 / JES3 in same plex

Jerry, You're right, it can be done in a lab. I've seen it done in a lab. >From my short experience in such a configuration, you should be aware of at least these basic issues: - You will need an additional program on top of SDSF to be able to view JES3's spool. I know (E)JES supports JES3 and JES

Re: tso racf

George Fogg wrote: >BTW, does the ISPF exits run authorized? I read the manual but not quite sure if they do. No. AC=00 by default. These exits must be re-usable, preferably reentrant, because they are loaded once during logon. AMODE=31, RMODE=ANY. HTH! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Re: Outsmarting WLM (was: Re: Are there tasks that don't play by WLM's rules)

"Hunkeler Peter , KIUK 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. ... > >Be careful: it was some time ago when I had my USS course, but I > >remember that there are fork()'s that can remain within the same > >address space and fork()'s that require a new (BPXAS) address spa

Re: Outsmarting WLM (was: Re: Are there tasks that don't play by WLM's rules)

>Be careful: it was some time ago when I had my USS course, but I >remember that there are fork()'s that can remain within the same >address space and fork()'s that require a new (BPXAS) address space. There are *processes* that can share an address space. If a new process is create with fork()