Kirk Talman writes:
The most common box used for authorizations is what used to be
called Tandem.
Now called HP NonStop.
Mainframes do much else. They stand at short arm's length to
each other.
Chris Craddock replies:
Tandems were used in many online banking applications as
front-end switches.
Oh come on Richard. There are Banks all around the world that have never
possessed a MF, and get along quite nicely with five nines availability on
Unix clustered solutions.
We should not fool ourselves into thinking that Parallel Sysplex and GDPS
are the only HA clustered solutions in the market
All
Java does not have Decimal Floating Point yet, and COBOL already plays
very nicely with automatic conversion from Java float to COBOL float
and back again with direct calls.
Java and COBOL can now use open source J2SE Java based z390 Portable
Assembler to execute all the HFP, BFP, and
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On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 10:55 -0500, gil wrote:
Is ZFS reliable?
...
(No, not that ZFS, the real one)
On my meanderings I have just begun to look at OpenSolaris
(principlly for ZFS and dprobes - and
Hi
How can I set an SA trap, to specify the BEFORE and AFTER values (i.e
the content before the alternation and after ) ?
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I see what I did, whenever people talk about 'new floating point' I
always assume it is Decimal Floating Point (the one that is not
available in Java yet, or COBOL for that matter. z9 and PL/I and have
it) To make it more
Quoting Chase, John:
We're sorry, this video is no longer available.
Dunno mate, (still) works for me.
Go there and search for zfs (and smash if you need to).
Shane ...
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Look at profiles in the RACF DSNR class. If you just starting to use RRSAF,
you may have profiles of the form:
ssid.BATCH (for utilities or call attach).
ssid.SASS (for CICS connections).
If this is the case, you need to add profiles ssid.RRSAF that will have
similar access requirements as
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:12:50 -0700, Patrick Falcone
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Hi Mark,
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned/considered but did you try 'D
OMVS,F'?
Yes. Mentioned in my OP (I wrote no OMVS display command, nor any MODIFY
ZFS command ).
Here is a maintenance zFS I just
XMIT Manager works great with sequential and PDS files. Fails on PDSE.
Anyone know of a free product that will work with PDSE?
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On 23 Jun 2008 21:28:35 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
CLC] Pardon? You've never seen CVS? Or any of its zillions of commercial
and open source offspring? I've built entire (mainframe!) products using
these tools on PCs. And it wasn't even a hard decision to
make. They're more
It also has a problem with RECFM=V data. RECFM=F works fine.
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:21:31 -0500
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XMIT Manager works great with sequential and PDS files. Fails on PDSE.
Anyone know of a
I'm poised to IPL 1.9 in a test environment. Eventually we'll hook up user
catalogs and master catalogs from a previous release. Questions here from the
team include:
1. Are we going to have horrible catalog issues?
2. For VSAM files, does a delete/define constitute a 'new' dataset and will it
Daniel McLaughlin wrote:
I'm poised to IPL 1.9 in a test environment. Eventually we'll hook up user
catalogs and master catalogs from a previous release. Questions here from the
team include:
1. Are we going to have horrible catalog issues?
2. For VSAM files, does a delete/define
You would think that the returned *status* from 'D OMVS,F' would be 'quiesced'
instead of 'active' but then again I just stumbled upon the below.
'D OMVS,F,e' where 'e' is exception.
Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:12:50 -0700, Patrick Falcone
wrote:
Hi
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:55:49 -0700, Patrick Falcone
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You would think that the returned *status* from 'D OMVS,F' would be
'quiesced' instead of 'active' but then again I just stumbled upon the below.
'D OMVS,F,e' where 'e' is exception.
Yes I tried that (I did look at
In my experience, the UNIX and/or PC development teams were more likely to
have change integration tools, as they had to deal with multiple development
environments, while many mainframe products were developed using ISPF
library concatenations, so there was a much smaller number of potential
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:06:14 -0500, Mark Zelden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:55:49 -0700, Patrick Falcone
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You would think that the returned *status* from 'D OMVS,F' would be
'quiesced' instead of 'active' but then again I just stumbled upon the below.
I just thought that *maybe* I could catch you not checking that *F*M! :-)
If done from the driving system then I would venture this a problem since the
*F*M states that the returned status should be quiesced.
Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:55:49 -0700,
I have just IPL'd z/OS V1.9 on 2 out of 5 lpars. All dasd is shared.
No problems. I am using zFS files for the OMVS stuff and at this point I have
not seen any issues with the OS or the maintanence I just did (433 PTFs).
Just note: The z/OS 1.9 system is very touchy about its Nucleus. If
Thank you Ron
I was feeling alone .
i have been sometimes pulling out applications from mainframe in my shop and
applied all good recipes from centralised processing
( dual computer rooms , dual replicated storage bays for dasds , dual
network, load balancing , dual tape robotics and even ESX
On 24 Jun 2008 07:06:54 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wayne Driscoll)
wrote:
In my experience, the UNIX and/or PC development teams were more likely to
have change integration tools, as they had to deal with multiple development
environments, while many mainframe products were developed using ISPF
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruno Sugliani) writes:
Like someone said : i backup my servers with TSM on ts7700 in grid
configuration with jaguar at the back , and it works
Is there any way to get the XDC panel to display the JOBNAME and JOBNUMBER?
When I use it for a series of XDC commands I have to remember which job is in
which order. I would probably want that information on other X panels as well.
Lizette
Ted said
I'm not blaming the tools!
I'm blaming the pfcsk's.
I have never seen a *ix person follow proper change control.
I've seen mainframers do it for over 25 years.
I'm not bashing PC's, nor did I in any of my responses.
I bashed the (lack of) discipline of pfcsk's!
[CLC] I have seen
Craddock, Chris wrote:
[...]
It just has nothing much to do with mainframer=wise or pfcsk=dumb.
It has a lot more to do with corporate policies and training and whether
or not the IT staff actually follows the rules. Human nature in other
words.
1. It has little to do. There is something
Why are you not using the LE runtime?
Not my code, not my app. As I said in the original note, The program
object detecting the error was last compiled in 1999 with VS COBOL II
[...]. At that time, apparently the SYSLIB for the program binder step in
the change management system was set up to
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:41:13 -0500, Ramiro Camposagrado
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following section was added to the DFS/SMB section of the PSP buckets
for z/OS 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, and 1.7, as a result of a PMR that I have opened with
zFS development in regards to this issue. I guess they are
I have two sets of JCL that are executing BPXBATCH. The first set follows
and it did not work.
10 //PS082 EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,
//
// PARM='SH echo sftp -vvv -b /u/bpxbatch/mccheckftp
11 // fis-depot.ucdavis.edu |su -s
RS said
1. It has little to do. There is something which we can call IT
culture. PC environment (I mean human env) is more likely to
restart-like, while mainframe environment is more likely tight
controlled.
Of course, YMMV, this is generalization, etc. etc.
[CLC] Funny you should mention
The '*' in column 72 caused the unexpected continuation error
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I would point you to the COBOL and LE migrations guides.
There you should find pretty plain statements that you cannot mix
different levels of COBOL runtimes in the same run unit. Not sure, but I
think CICS is just one run unit in that context.
If you do mix, then you can expect unpredictable
John Norgauer wrote:
I have two sets of JCL that are executing BPXBATCH. The first set follows
and it did not work.
10 //PS082 EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,
//
// PARM='SH echo sftp -vvv -b /u/bpxbatch/mccheckftp
11 //
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Norgauer) wrote:
I have two sets of JCL that are executing BPXBATCH. The
first set follows and it did not work.
10 //PS082 EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,
I agree... two years and counting...
There is no mention of this update on the z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 buckets either.
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:07:44 -0600, Steve Comstock
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
J. Chiampi wrote:
Hello,
I'm looking for information about problems that could occur in production
with Cobol programs and that could generate abend. I would like to find a
description and how to prevent them before
Craddock, Chris wrote:
RS said
1. It has little to do. There is something which we can call IT
culture. PC environment (I mean human env) is more likely to
restart-like, while mainframe environment is more likely tight
controlled.
Of course, YMMV, this is generalization, etc. etc.
[snip]
In my experience, PC programmers simply cannot or will not
perform any
kind of post-mortem dump analysis. And, though Micro$oft operating
systems appear to have the ability to take a dump, I have never met
anyone that knew how to, or cared to, read one. The only
thing they know
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Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:35 PM
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Subject: Re: We're losing the battle
Craddock, Chris wrote:
SNIP
PC programmers don't have the tools they need to make
In a convoluted way, I've found out about a project
for a customer who wants to convert mainframe Assembler
apps to C#. I know nothing about C#, and I don't know
yet what platform the Assembler code is for (inquiries
are in process).
As an interim, if anyone would like to post any experience
or
I do not have direct experience... only guessing...
I think it is probably easier to find new programmers with C experience
than it is to find programmers with assembler experience. Over time, it
will get harder and harder. And as with any high level language, you can
write programs faster.
Pedro Vera wrote:
I do not have direct experience... only guessing...
I think it is probably easier to find new programmers with C experience
than it is to find programmers with assembler experience. Over time, it
will get harder and harder. And as with any high level language, you can
write
[SNIP]
Remember, it's C#, the MicroSoft product, not just C. So
the conversion is going from mainframe to Windows, it looks
like.
Kind regards,
-Steve Comstock
Mono does have an MS compatable CLR and C# compiler for Linux. But I'd
bet that you're right about this being a mainframe to
Hello,
Comparing a subscript that had just changed to its maximum value
before using it in any
other operation would prevent the majority of abends and storage
violations at my current facility.
Of course, in the event that the maximum is exceeded, an orderly
termination with the
On 24 Jun 2008 12:55:15 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed
Philbrook) wrote:
Comparing a subscript that had just changed to its maximum value
before using it in any
other operation would prevent the majority of abends and storage
violations at my current facility.
Of course, in the event
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:17:25 +0900, Timothy Sipples
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
I agree with Chris. In my (more limited) experience, if HP NonStops are
used they're mainly as front-end switches at card network member
banks. And their use in this niche role is fading, ...
I don't know the
Hi,
We got this from our local IBM technical liaison.
Sam Knutson
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Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
How can I set an SA trap, to specify the BEFORE and AFTER values (i.e
the content before the alternation and after ) ?
You could use two SA SLIPs with TARGETID on the BEFORE value SLIP to
activate the AFTER value SLIP.
Regards,
George Kozakos
z/OS Function Test/Level 3
Hi Everyone,
Sorry, this is lengthy. I need some suggestions/direction to accomplish a
task that may or may not be doable.
We have a customer that needs to connect their Xerox printer to the mainframe
(via a BARR system and network). We planned to use ESF to push the output to
the BARR
Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:17:25 +0900, Timothy Sipples
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
I agree with Chris. In my (more limited) experience, if HP NonStops are
used they're mainly as front-end switches at card network member
banks. And their use in this niche role is fading,
Count your hops. Holding network speed constant, each hop increases the transit
time by a multiple.
Let x = rated network speed.
One hop = X/1
Two hops = X/2
Three hops = X/3
And so on.
In other words: consider a packet traveling directly from point A to point C.
It arrives at point C at
Hal Merritt wrote:
Count your hops. Holding network speed constant, each hop increases the transit time by a multiple.
Empirical testing does not seem to bear this out.
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What do your test results show?
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Subject: Re: Slow FTP transfer from z/OS to Unix
Hal Merritt wrote:
Count your hops.
Hal Merritt wrote:
What do your test results show?
What I've seen is some measurable amount of delay at each router. When
the connections are improved from 100Mb to 1000Mb, the delays are about
the same even though performance is drastically improved.
[An unrelated aside. Based on this
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.S.) writes:
In my experience, Tandems are not switches. They process card
traffic. I'm aware of one migration from mainframe to Tandem.
Rick,
yes and no ...
With the current PL/I compiler and with the DECIMAL(DFP) compiler option in
effect, then FLOAT DECIMAL does mean DFP. See:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ibm3pg60/1.1.1.28
With earlier versions of the Pl/I compiler (or lower ARCH levels)
Have a z9 with 2 Crypto Express2 cards we hope to use. Any suggested
manuals for someone that has no experience with with ICSF or these cards?
I reviewed the archives and found a pointer to Red Book SG24-7123 z9-109
Crypto update. I also am reviewing several ICSF manuals. Any other good
Have a z9 with 2 Crypto Express2 cards we hope to use. Any suggested manuals
for someone that has no experience with with ICSF or these cards?
I reviewed the archives and found a pointer to Red Book SG24-7123 z9-109 Crypto
update. I also am reviewing several ICSF manuals. Any other good
I don't know the details, but I know our Tandems go into a store
and forward mode when anything on the mainframes slows down.
That could be a processor down, CICS regions down, transaction
failures, dasd contention, spin loops (Ok, that one hasn't happened
lately), etc. I don't see their
Bruno.
This thread, as with many on this topic, starts out with the assumption that
UNIX, LINUX and Windows Server Operating Systems, along with server class
hardware are no different to the Home PC they loaded up with Windows XP in
order to play Warcraft, or the laptop they use for email and
Don't forget my 370 Assembler to Intel converter.
Details and download are here:
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Convert IBM 370 Assembler to Intel 486 and Pentium code.
The converted code runs about 5 times faster than
Clement Clarke wrote:
Don't forget my 370 Assembler to Intel converter.
Details and download are here:
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__
Convert IBM 370 Assembler to Intel 486 and Pentium code. The
converted code runs about 5 times
Ron Hawkins wrote:
Bruno.
This thread, as with many on this topic, starts out with the assumption that
UNIX, LINUX and Windows Server Operating Systems, along with server class
hardware are no different to the Home PC they loaded up with Windows XP in
order to play Warcraft, or the laptop they
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:21 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@sbcglobal.net, Ron Hawkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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It gets even more ridiculous when Linux is suddenly an anointed HA OS simply
because it will run on an IBM Mainframe, along with Solaris and pre-RISC
AIX. I have not
If there's a VSE Systems Programmer sitting around twiddling their thumbs and is
interested in some contract work in the Asia/Pacific Region to undertake a
storage migration, please contact me off list.
I have no commercial interest in this requirement and I was asked if I knew of
anyone who
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:41 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Comstock
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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The problem I'm having, then, Ron, is identifying exactly
where z/OS belongs today.
On the one hand I hear that nothing beats the MF for
reliability, security, recoverability, and
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