An overflow storage group is used when there is not enough available space
for the initial allocation. I believe it doesn't come into the picture when
extending data sets.
Volumes residing in overflow storage groups are preferred over quiesced
volumes and storage groups.
Look at DFSMS Storage
Ian S. Worthington wrote:
I'm aware of the distinction, but have always felt that that's a fairly
reasonable working definition of "default", at least up until a reassignment.
I suspect that he considers the language assignment of the
upper-cased variable name to be the default, hence the dist
--- On Wed, 3/18/09, Lizette Koehler wrote:
--SNIP
> You could provide a mechanism where
> their libraries could be included in the logon
> process.
>
> We had a process that if they had a data set called
> TSOID.CLIST and a member called STAR
The Proceedings from SHARE conferences are available on the SHARE web site.
Go to http://www.share.org, and on the left hand side of the screen, click
on Proceedings.
Brian
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:36:46 -0400, Neal Eckhardt wrote (on the usenet
newsgroup, not the listserv):
>At one time, non mem
The CEEDOPT syntax which includes the '=' sign and the OVR|NONOVR suboption
is not permitted in CEEPRM00.
Rick Fochtman wrote:
>In this example you post, your parentheses are badly out of balance.
>Could that be a contributing factor ??
>
>John Kelly wrote:
>
>>I am attempting to put in CEEPRM00
--- On Tue, 3/17/09, Tom Marchant wrote:
-SNIP-
> You only need one DCB, and can specify multiple
> destinations using
> // OUTPUT statements.
>
Yes I know that Tom. I guess I will have to go back and read your entry again
and try to understa
> I disagree, Ed. Reading a list of
> destinations from a "parmlib"-type dataset can be the
> easiest, and best way, to handle this situation. But updates
> to this dataset should be controled and audited, just like a
> PROCLIB or any other control-related library. Make provision
> for comments in
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:36:24 -0500, Paul Gilmartin
wrote:
>On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:21:31 -0500, Ian S. Worthington wrote:
>
>>Regrettably you can only set a default for the stem as a whole, not
for a
>>subset of the variable space.
>>
>It is *not* a default, and Rexx documentation avoids
>the po
OUCH
HITACHI
DATA SYSTEMS
Raymond E. Noal
Senior Technical Engineer
Office: (408) 970 - 7978
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Ian S. Worthington
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Sub
Sounds even worse than the example I found a few years back of a supplied
sample (to do Shark analysis?) which required SAS.
i
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Received: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:07:13 PM COT
From: Raymond Noal
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: SCSIDISC SAMPEXEC on z/VM 5.4.0
> Dear Li
Dear List Members:
Just to save you some time and grief, I'm passing this along.
We have just started using FCP devices for our Linux (SuSE & Red Hat)
virtual machines running under our z/VM 5.4.0 system. In order to verify
our hardware configuration and our switch configurations, I was able to
u
I'm aware of the distinction, but have always felt that that's a fairly
reasonable working definition of "default", at least up until a reassignment.
i
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Received: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:39:27 PM COT
From: Paul Gilmartin
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Multi-dimen
Hi,
I though a quick thank you was in order to all those who responded to my
earlier query.
Having reviewed the various responses and combined that information with
some gleaned from query on STEMs posted earlier in the week by somebody
else. I have been able to correct my misunderstanding and pr
In the Data Recovery Scenarios chapter of the z/OS DFSMShsm Storage
Administration Guide is a case called Overwritten Migration Tape which you may
find helpful in determining a corrective action for recovery of your damaged
tape.
There also is a job example of how to interogate the MCDS to build
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:48:10 -0500, Ian S. Worthington
wrote:
>>> It implements them as a conceptual subset of stems, and
>>> they are indexed with strings rather than by integers which
>>>actually makes them rather more powerful once one breaks
>>>out of the array mindset.
>> I'm not sure
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:11:04 -0400, Don Leahy wrote:
>The only time I ever saw READY prompt restricted was in a logon proc
>designed for end users (ie *not* programmers). Those users were
>allowed to use a couple of ISPF-based tools, but nothing else.
Same here. In our case, the end users were
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:21:31 -0500, Ian S. Worthington wrote:
>Regrettably you can only set a default for the stem as a whole, not for a
>subset of the variable space.
>
It is *not* a default, and Rexx documentation avoids
the possibly misleading use of "default" by a correct
description that:
>IMO, the application programmer should be given enough latitude to shoot
>*himself* in the foot, but should not be able to shoot anyone
else's foot.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Do NOT 'protect' application types!
Allow them everything they need.
But, allow them only that
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
Regrettably you can only set a default for the stem as a whole, not for a
subset of the variable space.
Its one of my pet peeves.
i
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Received: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:08:19 PM COT
From: "Patrick O'Keefe"
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Multi-dimensional arrays in
The only time I ever saw READY prompt restricted was in a logon proc
designed for end users (ie *not* programmers). Those users were
allowed to use a couple of ISPF-based tools, but nothing else.
IMO, the application programmer should be given enough latitude to
shoot *himself* in the foot, but s
Steve Comstock wrote:
Steve Comstock wrote:
Bill Klein wrote:
I may be missing something, but if you know at compile-time (when you
can
set an environment variable) that you want the "output" to go to
SYSOUT, why
are you using "files" (with OPEN, WRITE, etc) and not just doing a
DISPLAY
stat
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:32:44 -0500, Big Iron wrote:
>The storage report doesn't appear to indicate an issue. You may wish to
>investigate performance issues with CEEVGTSI with IBM support.
>
>Bill
>
>On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:26:50 +0200, Arie Kremer wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Please see my question at th
>These are Mellon Bank Mods JES2 control statements, also used in the OS/EM
>product to give JES3 DJC type functions the JES2
THRUPUT Manager (MVS Solutions -- Markham, Ontario, Canada) has managed these
for years.
I've been a happy customer, since 1989.
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
--
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
> Behalf Of Jousma, David
> We already do not allow them to get to the READY prompt
If a data set is allocated to a users ISPF session and it runs out of space
(e.g. the ISPF PROFILE), the usual remedy is to reallocate a big
Let's assume you find a way to do what you want. Since your users
cannot free or reallocate SYSPROC/SYSEXEC, they WILL figure out how to
use ALTLIB and LIBDEF. In practical terms, what have you accomplished?
How are things any more controlled? How are they restricted to
supported tools?
-Or
In our general SMS storage group we have several volumes in disabled new
status that the operators can change to quiesced new status if
necessary. What I want to do is set up a pool of volumes that will only
be used if absolutely no other volumes have the necessary space.
Would an overflow st
Thanks, Mark. We have ThruPut here, and I hadn't seen that.
So many manuals, so little time. :-)
Cheers,,,Steve
Steve Conway
Lead Systems Programmer
Information Systems & Services Division
Computer & Network Operations
Phone: (703) 450-3156
Fax:(703) 450-3197
Mark Zelden
Try IN-COM's Smart TS XL. It have a wonderful GUI, smart query system.
Itschak
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Andrew Rowley wrote:
> If you're interested in the sort of data that can be found in SMF, it
> sounds like it might be an interesting report to add to EasySMF. Feel free
> to conta
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:20:32 -0600, Jerry Whitteridge
wrote:
>These are Mellon Bank Mods JES2 control statements, also used in the
>OS/EM product to give JES3 DJC type functions the JES2
>
/*WITH , /*AFTER and /*BEFORE can also implemented with ThruPut
Manager from MVS Solutions. We still have
Timothy,
I am speaking on a full table migration, not at a record level. Exactly as
HSM acts with datasets. I know OPTIM and have the pleasure to sell it ;-)
Itschak
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
> Sorry, I got the product number for IBM Optim Data Growth Solution fo
This is the good answer, some control plus flexibility.
Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
> Behalf Of Staller, Allan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:09
Wow...all the arcane knowledge on this group's collective minds could fuel
"Geek Jeopardy" !
I am truly, and daily, in awe.
Daniel McLaughlin
Z-Series Systems Programmer
Information & Communications Technology
Crawford & Company
4680 N. Royal Atlanta
Tucker GA 30084
phone: 770-621-3256
fax
Anyone know of a credible, verifiable source of what went wrong with RBS
WorldPay and Heartland Payment Systems?
The Register reports key logging malware, but doesn't say how it came to be.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/13/visa_delists_heartland_rbsworldpay/
Lacking a credible, verifiabl
Thank, Norris and Bob for the followup info.
Cheers,,,Steve
Steve Conway
Lead Systems Programmer
Information Systems & Services Division
Computer & Network Operations
Phone: (703) 450-3156
Fax:(703) 450-3197
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For IB
Oh and more information can be found in the JES Exits book, and at
BellSouth (now AT&T) they were/are used extensively to help reduce
contention for certain resources or control job flow.
Norris Jackson
MVS Systems Programmer
Colonial Bank
One Court Square
Montgomery, Al 36104
norris_jack...@co
Questions about Mellon Mods (now called SHARED SPOOL MODS) can be
directed to Stephen McColley (stephen.mccol...@suntrust.com) or Frank
Lawrence (frank.lawre...@suntrust.com)
Bob
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Steven Conwa
Here's a link to an old email about this Mellon mod that was
incorporated into some of the JES exits.
http://www.mail-archive.com/ibm-main@bama.ua.edu/msg42642.html
Norris Jackson
MVS Systems Programmer
Colonial Bank
One Court Square
Montgomery, Al 36104
norris_jack...@colonialbank.com
Phone
Thanks, Jerry, and Bill Bishop.
Fits perfectly.
Cheers,,,Steve
Steve Conway
Lead Systems Programmer
Information Systems & Services Division
Computer & Network Operations
Phone: (703) 450-3156
Fax:(703) 450-3197
Jerry Whitteridge
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Sorry, typo in the subject line.
The /*WITH and /*AFTER commands were told to me as JCL statements used to
control batch job processing.
Steve Conway
Lead Systems Programmer
Information Systems & Services Division
Computer & Network Operations
Phone: (703) 450-3156
Fax:(703) 450-3197
Not the /*WITH.
The /*AFTER command was part of a group from an old system that included
/*BEFORE, /*CNTL, and /*AFTER. It was used to control sequencing of batch
jobs if you did not have a job scheduling package. This was 25+ years
ago.
I believe they were off of either the CBT tape or the
These are Mellon Bank Mods JES2 control statements, also used in the
OS/EM product to give JES3 DJC type functions the JES2
Jerry Whitteridge
Mainframe Engineering
Safeway Inc
925 951 4184
jerry.whitteri...@safeway.com
If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.
> ---
WAG: IEBUPDTE?
Daniel McLaughlin
Z-Series Systems Programmer
Information & Communications Technology
Crawford & Company
4680 N. Royal Atlanta
Tucker GA 30084
phone: 770-621-3256
fax: 770-621-3237
cell: 770-666-7969
email: daniel_mclaugh...@us.crawco.com
web: www.crawfordandcompany.com
This is just to satisfy my curiosity.
Does anybody recognize these commands? Or a $DR to display resources?
One of my user community says he used these commands at AT&T up until
2002. I don't recognize them.
There is not a Google search I could think of that limited the results to
anything
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:45:09 -0500, Spencer, Mike wrote:
>Batch Pipes can only move data between two different jobs. It cannot move
data between steps because in a Batch Pipes world, there is no way to get
multiple steps running in parallel for the pipe to work.
"no way"?!? All the user need
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:25:56 -0500, Barrett, Dennis
wrote:
>I assume that started tasks and started jobs are not allowed to use pdse
>proclibs, or am I mistaken about that?
>
We've been using them for years for application (Endevor controlled) PROCLIBs.
Mostly to eliminate all the issues with h
Like many 'mature' shops, we put TSO logon procs into their own separate
proclib. You whipper snappers wouldn't understand what a performance
benefit that used to provide. ;;)
Years ago we converted that library to a PDSE to protect it from multiple
updates. The proclib is defined only to JES, not
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Control freak. Now this is where you say, "Control freak who?"
.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
I understand that all of the proclibs specified in my master JCL must be
type=pds and not pdse.
But, are there any issues with using pdse libs for proclibs that are
allocated to JES2 for use by batch?
I assume that started tasks and started jobs are not allowed to use pdse
proclibs, or am I mistake
That is correct.
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark
Zelden [mark.zel...@zurichna.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:59 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Sun/STK T10K tape dr
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:40:51 -0400, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
wrote:
>Larre,
>
>What HSM function, Incremental Backup, ML2, or Dump?
>
>What is your Parmlib value for Percentfull"
>
>ex. TAPEUTILIZATION(UNITTYPE(L9840) PERCENTFULL(2200))
>
>
So I guess you run 9840s in native / 3490 mode
I disagree, Ed. Reading a list of destinations from a "parmlib"-type
dataset can be the easiest, and best way, to handle this situation. But
updates to this dataset should be controled and audited, just like a
PROCLIB or any other control-related library. Make provision for
comments in the dest
Dave/Rick -
I believe that the HSM folks want to use them for all HSM functions, but I
think the function that is failing at this point is ML2. We have PERCENTFULL
set to 97% and IBM is telling us that the PERCENTFULL values greater than
100% is only valid for 3490-type virtual tape. In fact,
I would respectfully submit that the root problem is personal 'tools' getting
into production. That's one reason production ID's should not have access to
personal datasets.
Another perspective is that such tools can and should be viewed the same as any
other program (or JCL, or source, or wha
Looks like IBM may acquire Sun
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123735970806267921.html
Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist
Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering
KP-IT Enterprise Engineering
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Is there no way to prevent journalling of these actions? Perhaps there
should be such a mechanism, perhaps under RACF control in the FACILITY
class. Perhaps a way to disable journalling a complete run of FIXCDS?
Sounds like a possible requirement here.
--
Rick
--
Remember that if you’re not th
Larre,
What HSM function, Incremental Backup, ML2, or Dump?
What is your Parmlib value for Percentfull"
ex. TAPEUTILIZATION(UNITTYPE(L9840) PERCENTFULL(2200))
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behal
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:39:19 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote:
>The full theoretical MSU capacity of an LPAR is the same as the machine.
>
No, it isn't. The LPAR can be capped and it may have less logical engines
than there are physical engines.
Mark
--
Mark Zelden
Sr. Software and Systems Architect -
Larre,
Check your TAPEUTILIZATION parameter for these tapes. If the drives are
defined as 3590-1 you will have to increase the utilization to a number
around 2200-2400%. If you are using the normal 97% then I would expect
to only see about 15-20 gb used on a tape.
ThanksRick
-Original M
Ian S. Worthington wrote:
I refer to the tendency of programmers new to rexx stems, but familiar with
hll arrays, to reduce their (non-numerical) problem to one of integral indices
into arrays rather than make full use of the rexx stem facility.
I agree completely, but that was not the meaning
Hello -
We are attempting to use Sun/STK T10K tape drives for HSM using 500G
tapes and we have not been able to fill the tapes more than 3% (or maybe
10%) full. As far as we can determine, we have everything defined correctly.
Is anybody currently using T10K tape drives for HSM and did you ha
Good evening IBM-MAIN,
Is anybody using Batch Pipes in production? Does the product really
expedite execution of multi-step jobs? Is this a robust product for
processing millions of records per day? Any gotchas with recovery?
Love the quote at the end Rick. It's the same one our bicycling group
uses and the name of our team is IC Butts. If you're not leading the
pack the view never changes.
John
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Rick Fochtman
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:45:55 -0500, Wayne Driscoll wrote:
>All the more reason to NOT do this. If you "zealous" programmers are
>setting things up to improve their productivity, and as long as you have
>adequate security system setup (which, being a bank I would stipulate),
>why keep people from
Steve, to the best of my knowledge, the only requirements(?) are common
sense, working with z/OS, good sportsmanship and professional behavior.
Most of us frown on personal attacks, name-calling or off-color language
and off-topic posts. And I believe we have far more lurkers than
posters. Lur
Saw this at a shop once. First thing most everyone did was to discard the
'required' set and build their own. That amounted to a noticeable load on the
catalogs and some serious cycles consumed in deallocation and allocation.
Logons took a -long- time.
Also saw a 'bare bones' TSO that was just
Tom Conley's DYNAMIC ISPF may also provide a good approach. SEE
www.cbttape.org File 495.
It doesn't directly address the free of SYSPROC/SYSEXEC, but it seems to
offer an approach that limits the need to do this in the first place.
Is there any mechanism or approach to protect a TSO/ISPF user
The OP asked about "full theoretical MSU capacity". Capping, CPUs on or
offline, other active LPARs, coprocessors, are all practical considerations as
to how many MSU's a given LPAR can actually consume under a given scenario. For
example, a second active LPAR can consume 1 or 2 MSU's just sitt
Is there any mechanism or approach to protect a TSO/ISPF user from
accidentally/intentionally FREEing SYSPROC or SYSEXEC? Until now, our
shop has been mostly Roscoe users outside of tech support. We are
trying to migrate developer's to use TSO/ISPF, and want to protect the
environment where need
>As a tech services type of person, I agree. >But not for the general user.
I don't understand why.
>Once again, it is an attempt to control what is considered supported, and what
>is not.
I understand this even less.
Just because it's un-supported, does not make it less useful.
It just reduce
>want to maintain the separation of what is considered "supported" and
>"un-supported" from our perspective
I guess I'm being too simplistic:
"Supported" -- Utilities/programmes/EXECs/CLISTs in the standard production
libraries.
"Un-Supported" -- Everything else.
(If un-supported software break
Any of you that currently use FRBACKUP with VERSIONS=0 (or had desired to do
so) should check out APAR OA27162:
COMMENTS: DFSMShsm has added support to recognize during the FRBACKUP WITHDRAW
command whether or not the tracks the VTOC resides on are indeed in a
relationship. If so, and if the v
Hi Victor,
Yes, we do use BatchPipes in production and it is great.
BatchPipes can be used in a single Lpar or in a Sysplex, and there were never
an issue
with this product.
The configuration is simple and basically what you have to do is to choose the
candidate
jobs (there is a program somew
I refer to the tendency of programmers new to rexx stems, but familiar with
hll arrays, to reduce their (non-numerical) problem to one of integral indices
into arrays rather than make full use of the rexx stem facility.
i
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Received: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:29:58 AM COT
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All the more reason to NOT do this. If you "zealous" programmers are
setting things up to improve their productivity, and as long as you have
adequate security system setup (which, being a bank I would stipulate),
why keep people from doing their jobs to the best of their ability?
I can't hardly even spell Roscoe Remember, it *was* just a
question :-)We'll probably leave things the way they are.
_
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris, Gran
Only if the LPAR has all CPUs online, and is not capped.
>>> Hal Merritt 3/18/2009 10:39 AM >>>
The full theoretical MSU capacity of an LPAR is the same as the machine.
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P S
Sent: Tuesday,
While I strongly agree with Bob, I will add that IF you feel the need to
go down this path, there is a Dynamic Allocation Exit (IEFDB401) that you
could use to accomplish this. The exit will require a detailed
understanding of dynamic allocation, as well as an understanding of the
various envi
The problem here is the OP is coming from a ROSCOE environment which has
a "control mentality."
The TSO world can have that level of control, but to what end?
Having worked in and with ROSCOE, WYLBUR, TSO, etc. and having done
migrations between different environments (Univac, Honeywell, S/x, etc
The full theoretical MSU capacity of an LPAR is the same as the machine.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
P S
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:57 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Basic capacity question
I understand SC
Jousma, David wrote:
Ted, thanks for the reply. Yea, it is a little big brother. But we
have only a half dozen of us in Tech support, to service hundreds of
developers. In the Roscoe world, RPF's multiplied like rabbits, and
entire applications which they consider "production" have risen from
As a tech services type of person, I agree. But not for the general
user. Once again, it is an attempt to control what is considered
supported, and what is not.
_
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
david.jou...
We are doing that for them now, at the END of the concatenation.
I guess I just have to live with this as it is.
_
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546
Ted, thanks for the reply. Yea, it is a little big brother. But we
have only a half dozen of us in Tech support, to service hundreds of
developers. In the Roscoe world, RPF's multiplied like rabbits, and
entire applications which they consider "production" have risen from the
dust. Problem is
Some might argue that it is a programmer's job to screw up and break stuff.
Give them the READY prompt back.
Protect your resources and don't worry about how folks do things. Any
restrictions just make their job harder than it needs to be.
Wait. Are you a competitor? If you are, then disrega
>it would not surprise me to see them reallocate SYSPROC/SYSEXEC more to their
>liking than ours.
And, why is this a problem?
Most general utility programmes/EXECs/CLISTs do not come in a one size fits all
(home-grown or other).
Over the years, I have accumulated many GB worth of stuff that I us
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well.
et...@tulsagrammer.com (Eric Chevalier) writes:
> This morning's Wall Street Journal is reporting that IBM is in talks
> to buy Sun Microsystems for as much as $6.5 billion. A deal could
You could provide a mechanism where their libraries could be included in the
logon process.
We had a process that if they had a data set called TSOID.CLIST and a member
called STARTUP, we allowed them to specify libraries the would be added into
the logon proc. They did not have a choice of
Ian S. Worthington wrote:
It implements them as a conceptual subset of stems, and they are indexed with
strings rather than by integers which actually makes them rather more powerful
once one breaks out of the array mindset.
"All generalities are false" (?)
I'm not sure what you mean by the "
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:16:21 -0400, Thompson, Steve wrote:
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
>Behalf Of Jousma, David
>
>Is there any mechanism or approach to protect a TSO/ISPF user from
>accidentally/intentionally FREEing SYSPROC or
Thanks Steve.
Tech Support can still get to the ready prompt. No others here use TSO
TEST.
_
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB1G
p 616.653.8
>I don't want them FREEing and reallocating
SYSPROC/SYSEXEC to concatenate their own stuff ahead of what we want them to
use.
Why?
Sounds a little like 'Big Brother' to me.
I mean, it's your shop, but why not allow them a little flexibility?
Whenever somebody has reported a problem with any ISPF
"Jousma, David" wrote in message
news:...
> All,
>
> Is there any mechanism or approach to protect a TSO/ISPF user from
> accidentally/intentionally FREEing SYSPROC or SYSEXEC? Until now, our
> shop has been mostly Roscoe users outside of tech support. We are
> trying to migrate developer's t
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Jousma, David
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:00 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: protecting ISPF dataset allocations
All,
Is there any mechanism or approach to protect a TSO/ISPF user
Bob, I agree if it were just the FREE ALL I was concerned with. We have
some pretty zealous programmers here, and it would not surprise me to
see them reallocate SYSPROC/SYSEXEC more to their liking than ours.
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Dave Jousma
Assistant
In my opinion it's overkill. Years ago I sent inordinate time trying to protect
things like this. Educate your users and encourage them to be productive. Show
them the advantage of using ALTLIB. If they free SYSPROC/SYSEXEC and then can't
function, close the problem as a user error. They'll catc
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:36:19 EDT, Ed Finnell wrote:
>
>I don't see the synergy at all. Maybe in the roll out we'll see more. From
>an end user perspective it's like merging matter and anti-matter. Which is
>which is open for debate.
>
Star Trek employed that concept quite productively.
I have a
All,
Is there any mechanism or approach to protect a TSO/ISPF user from
accidentally/intentionally FREEing SYSPROC or SYSEXEC? Until now, our
shop has been mostly Roscoe users outside of tech support. We are
trying to migrate developer's to use TSO/ISPF, and want to protect the
environment where
This announcement was posted on the XMITIP Yahoo group last night and is
now being sent to the IBM-Main listserv and my XMITIP notification list.
In the future any announcements will be in the Yahoo group at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/xmitip/ and that is also where you
should go with qu
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Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991)
From: Eric Chevalier
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
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