When one attempts to define what constitutes an Operating System, most
definitions tend to center around the fact than an OS manages various
hardware resources (CPU, memory, I/O paths, I/O devices) and provides
various logical resources and functions useful for running applications.
Perhaps a more
Rebecca,
Although you say you don't have FDRMOVE but do have other Innovation
products, I would suggest you give Innovation a call and talk it over with
them on how best you can utilise the products you do have to achieve what it
is you are trying to do.
Stephen Mednick
Computer Supervisory Serv
At 19:02 +0100 on 02/19/2010, Thomas Berg wrote about Adventure - Or
Colossal Cave Adventure:
As it's Friday: Does anyone know where You can get a copy
of the Adventure game that originally was written by
Will Crowther and eventually for S/370 ?
I had once a copy but it seems have gone to the b
Thanks Tom, we do have some of their products but not FDRMOVE.
Looks like we would not need to move datasets to consolidate storage
groups. But if/when we want to clean up the storage classes, we
would.
We have over 100 storage classes. So that really needs to be cleaned
up as well. Does a
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From: "Rebecca Martin"
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Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:44 PM
Subject: Consolidate Storage Groups
We are a small shop with a big SMS mess as far as the ACS routines
and number of storage groups. We have over 80 storage groups
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
> Gabrial:
> I used to have a copy of Adventure that worked fine under MVS (albeit 30
> years ago). Its been ages since I have thought about it. A fellow sysprog
> did the fortran conversion and we actually (at one time) had a map to the
> entire c
- Original Message -
From: "Gabriel Tully"
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Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer
On 2/20/2010 11:41 AM, J R wrote:
They wore lab coats?
They were called MVS administrators?
I
We are a small shop with a big SMS mess as far as the ACS routines
and number of storage groups. We have over 80 storage groups for
about 10TBs of DASD and 3 LPARS (production, development,
systems). It evolved of a long time and without any rational reasons.
Right now there is some momentu
Gabrial:
I used to have a copy of Adventure that worked fine under MVS (albeit 30 years
ago). Its been ages since I have thought about it. A fellow sysprog did the
fortran conversion and we actually (at one time) had a map to the entire cave.
I will look for it but to be honest I just do not rem
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m...@mentor-services.com (Mike Myers) writes:
> Four of us teamed up to do a proof of concept by installing a running
> CMS under MVS. We added a CMS command to TSO
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m...@mentor-services.com (Mike Myers) writes:
> Of course, we all know that PR/SM was eventually released and I have
> always held that CMS under MVS helped pave th
W dniu 2010-02-20 00:05, George Henke pisze:
[...]
Unless you want an administrative nightmare or have an army of system
programmers, you will follow IBM's strong recommendation to share everything
as much as possible: SHARED PARMLIB, SHARED MASTERCAT, SHARED PROCLIB,
SHARED JESPOOL.
In fact t
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From: "Mark Zelden"
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Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: How to tell when TMSINIT has run
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:00:57 -0500, Pinnacle
wrote:
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From: "Mark Zelden"
Newsgroups: bit.
W dniu 2010-02-19 17:34, Darth Keller pisze:
[...]
Yes, I need all my applications to be available too and by separating them
into more than one catalog I decrease the likelyhood that 1 broken catalog
impacts all applications.
My point is that if I have my applications separated into different
c
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Anne & Lynn Wheeler writes:
> I had gotten blamed for computer conferencing on the internal network in
> the late 70s and early 80s. internal network was larger th
W dniu 2010-02-20 03:32, Edward Jaffe pisze:
Pinnacle wrote:
I just got this Email today for a Java developer at $90-110/hr. Last
quote I got for an MVS systems contract in NJ was $65/hr. IBM's plan
is working to perfection.
System z administration is supposed to be getting easier. As it does,
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:00:57 -0500, Pinnacle wrote:
>- Original Message -
>From: "Mark Zelden"
>Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
>Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:28 PM
>Subject: Re: How to tell when TMSINIT has run
>
>
>> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:02:59 -0600, Richard Peurifoy
>> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:41:19 -0500, Robert A. Rosenberg
wrote:
>At 16:27 -0600 on 02/19/2010, Mark Zelden wrote about Re: How to tell
>when TMSINIT has run:
>
>>The failsafe usermod is a zap to IBM code. IOW, it goes against
>>your z/OS SMP/E zones and IBM libraries. Hopefully, you have a
>>pro
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"John Crane" writes:
> Someone actually keeps their email from 1978?
>
> You should write a book on leading an organized life!
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010
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m...@mentor-services.com (Mike Myers) writes:
> Allow me to fill you in a bit on at least one of the "MVS group's
> attempt to do in VM".
>
> IIRC, it was shortly af
On 2/20/2010 11:41 AM, J R wrote:
They wore lab coats?
They were called MVS administrators?
I was being facetious, but I get it - allow me to back-peddle. Sorry, I
didn't mean to condescend. I'm just tired of reading about the
consipriacy to lower the standard of living of sys
> They wore lab coats?
They were called MVS administrators?
> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:31:46 -0800
> From: edja...@phoenixsoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>
> Gabriel Tully wrote:
> > I agree that System z administrat
Gabriel Tully wrote:
I agree that System z administration is getting easier and I think
that is a good thing. The days of the typical MVS administrator
wearing a lab coat are over.
They wore lab coats?
--
Edward E Jaffe
Chief Technology Officer
Phoenix Software International, Inc
831 Parkvie
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"John Crane" writes:
> Someone actually keeps their email from 1978?
>
> You should write a book on leading an organized life!
some bits & pieces from some archive
On 2/19/2010 9:32 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote:
Pinnacle wrote:
I just got this Email today for a Java developer at $90-110/hr. Last
quote I got for an MVS systems contract in NJ was $65/hr. IBM's plan
is working to perfection.
System z administration is supposed to be getting easier. As it does,
George:
Would my assertion that MVS could run another operating system (CS and
UNIX) qualify it as a TRUE operating system by your definition?
Mike Myers
Mentor Services Corporation
On 2/19/2010 8:10 PM, George Henke wrote:
Absolutely fascinating Anne and Lynn.
I was just a lowly COBOL appl
George:
Allow me to fill you in a bit on at least one of the "MVS group's
attempt to do in VM".
IIRC, it was shortly after the death of FS (Future Systems) when I and
several others were selected for a task force to answer the question
"how can we reduce the amount of development required to
George,
I think your saying VM is the only "true" operating system will draw some
flack. I've never heard before that a "true" operating system has to run
other OS's underneath it. Also, what about z/OS's running of Unix. Isn't
that kind of like running another operating system underneath i
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