Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Ted MacNEIL" wrote in message news:<1086025626-1281046879-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-135 11872...@bda026.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>... > >Why is it that you think you need to change the dataclass? Once the dataset has been allocated, changing the dataclass should have no effect that

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Ron Hawkins
John, If CA-FAVER sets the ALLOC or RESTORE ACS environment then you can set your STORCLAS and MGMTCLAS to blank and redrive the ACS routines for those classes, and STORGRUP of course. As a rule I used to reset and redrive the ACS classes in all environments so that any changes would be picked up

DB2 8 for z/OS End of Service Date

2010-08-05 Thread Timothy Sipples
To provide ample warning, IBM has announced the End of Service date for DB2 8 for z/OS: http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/9/897/ENUS910-169/ENUS910-169.PDF The EoS date is April 30, 2012. If you haven't started your DB2 upgrade yet, please start this year. It's important to enjoy the benefits

Re: Migration to z/os 1.11 causes Paging in DB2 DBM1 address space

2010-08-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>An increase of HSA could keep you from activating an LPAR, but that's all. Since they are now independent, why? - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive acc

Re: Migration to z/os 1.11 causes Paging in DB2 DBM1 address space

2010-08-05 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 22:23:16 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >>On a Z10 it is > >That's what I thought. >So, an increase in HSA would be irrelevent to paging. > It's irrelevant for any box not running in basic mode (which hasn't even been available for a long time). If you are in LPAR mode, the amount

Re: linkage conventions

2010-08-05 Thread john gilmore
There is a sense in which all is now clear (or at least very much clearer). The exchanges between Tom Marchant and Peter Relson were very helpful. What remains is probably intractable, but I find . . . B can never determine. B documents its requirements and assumes that its caller has met

Re: Migration to z/os 1.11 causes Paging in DB2 DBM1 address space

2010-08-05 Thread Shane
I would have thought DB2 might be a more pressing issue for a business. Shane ... On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 23:42 +0300, Mike Shorkend wrote: > z/os 1.9 is going out of service in September IIRC. We have to migrate to > z/os 1.11 before then. > The LPAR has 4.5 GB > DB2 V8

DATAPROPAGATOR error

2010-08-05 Thread Wang Jianyun
Hi We often got error while using DATAPROPAGATOR to download data from mainframe. Below is the error mesage. Please could someone who are familar with DATAPROPAGATOR help on this. Thanks. 1 2010-06-11-18.47.16.466980 ASN8999D "Capture" : "N/A" : "Initial" : thread name = Initial, tid = 0x10

Re: Migration to z/os 1.11 causes Paging in DB2 DBM1 address space

2010-08-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>On a Z10 it is That's what I thought. So, an increase in HSA would be irrelevent to paging. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Why is it that you think you need to change the dataclass? Once the dataset >has been allocated, changing the dataclass should have no effect that I can >think of. Data Class gets you DSCB attributes, but once the DSN is allocated, it's next to meaningless. - I'm a SuperHero with neither pow

Re: Where what to do next - Load modules missing from PDS

2010-08-05 Thread Ken Porowski
1. Restore the modules from the most recent backup 2. Check IDR timestamps on the modules, they should match endevor If they don't regenerate from endevor and try to figure out the differences (good luck) This could indicate an ulterior motive if the code was updated outside endevor

Re: Migration to z/os 1.11 causes Paging in DB2 DBM1 address space

2010-08-05 Thread Bob Rutledge
Mike Shorkend wrote: I work with the OP. We are migrating from z/OS 1.9 and it is indeed a z9, so HSA is still part of the customer's central storage. We have found an OPEN APAR OA33307 which describes our problem. Hopefully there will be a PTF soon as the End-of-Service date is approaching. En

Re: Where what to do next - Load modules missing from PDS

2010-08-05 Thread Ken Porowski
Compress is done once a month when IMS is down, if not IMS regions abend all over the place with programs not found, this has not happened. That would result in a load failure not a member not found (although I guess that could look the same). The question for the OP is Does your statement mean I

Re: Where what to do next - Load modules missing from PDS

2010-08-05 Thread Richard Peurifoy
On 8/5/2010 3:09 PM, Ken Porowski wrote: Why? Is it that the DS gets extra extents and IMS can't read past the original? I suspect he means the the IMS regions do a BLDL at startup When a compress moves them the BLDL no longer matches and IMS can't load them anymore until it is

Re: Migration to z/os 1.11 causes Paging in DB2 DBM1 address space

2010-08-05 Thread Mike Shorkend
z/os 1.9 is going out of service in September IIRC. We have to migrate to z/os 1.11 before then. The LPAR has 4.5 GB DB2 V8 On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Bob Rutledge wrote: > Mike Shorkend wrote: > >> I work with the OP. We are migrating from z/OS 1.9 and it is indeed a z9, >> so >> HSA is

AUTO: Laura Bostian/Poughkeepsie/IBM is out of the office. (returning 08/06/2010)

2010-08-05 Thread Laura Bostian
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Re: Where what to do next - Load modules missing from PDS

2010-08-05 Thread William Bishop
Had the modules been updated recently? If so, was there an Endevor package backout done? Thanks Bill Bishop Specialist Mainframe Support Group Server Development & Support Toyota Motor Engineering & Manufacturing North America, Inc. bill.bis...@tema.toyota.com (502) 570-6143 "Stocker, Herma

Re: Where what to do next - Load modules missing from PDS

2010-08-05 Thread Bob Shannon
> I'm at a lost as to where to go next. It depends on what you want. If you need the modules back, you should be able to regenerate them from Endevor. If the library is a PDS then you could use the PDS command to look at, and optionally restore, the deleted members (assuming a compress wasn't d

Where what to do next - Load modules missing from PDS

2010-08-05 Thread Stocker, Herman
G'day, We have had a mystery here. On Wednesday last week all programs were in the PDS. On Thursday there were 7 programs missing. The 7 programs belong to the same development group, and no other group has any thing missing. Compress is done once a month when IMS is down, if not IMS region

Re: Migration to z/os 1.11 causes Paging in DB2 DBM1 address space

2010-08-05 Thread Mike Shorkend
I work with the OP. We are migrating from z/OS 1.9 and it is indeed a z9, so HSA is still part of the customer's central storage. We have found an OPEN APAR OA33307 which describes our problem. Hopefully there will be a PTF soon as the End-of-Service date is approaching. Mike On Thu, Aug 5, 2010

Re: More FUD on the demise of the Mainframe

2010-08-05 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 8/5/2010 at 02:37 PM, Clark Morris wrote: > As someone whose mainframe training in the 1960's was OJT on DOS and a > combination of OJT, some employer sponsored IBM courses and SHARE > attendance in the late 1970s an 1980s, I question the need for > operating specific college training. Gi

Re: More FUD on the demise of the Mainframe

2010-08-05 Thread Clark Morris
On 3 Aug 2010 11:04:09 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >"The company commands 85 percent of the mainframe market and can't afford >to abandon a technology that despite its age, still underpins some 10,000 >mainframes that are used by 4,000 to 5,000 customers around the globe." > >and

Re: SMF records for data set open/close

2010-08-05 Thread Clark Morris
On 3 Aug 2010 13:22:07 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >I'm also curious as to why you would want to filter out the recording of >SMF records for certain datasets. SMF records are useful for a variety >of analysis tasks, not the least of which would be an audit trail in >case something

Re: More FUD on the demise of the Mainframe

2010-08-05 Thread Clark Morris
On 3 Aug 2010 07:46:03 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >I would not worry about FUD given the following statement from the article. > >"Some companies still employ an older mainframe with a screen known as a >3270 terminal emulator, which evokes the decades-old Disk Operating System, >o

Re: Setting Interval Migration to 6 hour interval

2010-08-05 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Yes, I would expect that the first occurance after midnight to be the busiest. Just not 2 hours worth. Thank You, Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor From: Mike Schwab [mike.a.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subj

Re: Setting Interval Migration to 6 hour interval

2010-08-05 Thread Mike Schwab
The first one after midnight is always busy migrating those datasets that crossed the number of days boundary. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:00 PM, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: > Ulrich, > >  Good catch. My 4AM Interval ran for just over 2 hours. I never would have > expected that. I think

Re: Setting Interval Migration to 6 hour interval

2010-08-05 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Ulrich, Good catch. My 4AM Interval ran for just over 2 hours. I never would have expected that. I think I'll add a subtask or two. Thank You, Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor From: Ulrich Krueger [u...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 201

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread John H Kington
Alan, Do you have a particular time frame to clean it up? I don't think it would be much overhead to stop assigning the dataclass to any new datasets and run a job monthly or quarterly to see if any datasets using the dataclass remain. Trying to change the BCS and VVDS entry for each dataset wo

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Staller, Allan
I have already been through the aging process. I am down to about 75 files (out of the original 1.2 million). There is no deadline as to when this must be accomplished. Do you have a particular time frame to clean it up? I don't think it would be much overhead to stop assigning the dataclass to

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Scott Rowe
The dataclass is only referenced during allocation, it doesn't need to be there once the dataset is allocated. You can go ahead and delete it. >>> "Staller, Allan" 8/5/2010 1:12 PM >>> I have already been through the aging process. I am down to about 75 files (out of the original 1.2 million).

Re: Setting Interval Migration to 6 hour interval

2010-08-05 Thread Ulrich Krueger
And what's the time interval from when these 2 interval migrations started? I could be wrong, but I believe, the interval is calculated from one start time to the next start, not from one end time to the next start. Regards, Ulrich Krueger -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussio

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:12 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: SMS question > > I have already been through the aging process. I am down to about 75

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread John H Kington
John, >I am fairly sure that you can remove a DATACLAS from your SMS >configuration >even if it is "referenced" by an existing dataset. You can't refer to >it in >an ACS routine after it is removed, but you should be able to remove it. I would agree if the datasets are only regular non-vsam da

Setting Interval Migration to 6 hour interval

2010-08-05 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
We are recently upgraded to Zos 1.11. According to the manual: To calculate the value to use in a patch of the MGCB, start with the desired number of hours for your interval, multiply by 60, and then add 30. For example, if you want the interval to be two hours, the value is (2*60)+30

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Natarajan Mohan
Allan, DATACLAS is only driven during the initial allocation of dataset. After that it has no relevance. If you would like to manage the file during RECALL or RENAME, you would have to do that via storage class routine. HTH Natarajan On 08/05/2010 07:21 AM, Staller, Allan wrote: Esteemed List

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Staller, Allan
Yes. In every test case, the DATACLAS was copied from the original file. -Original Message- did you try use DFDSS ? you have the option to copy with delete and specify bypassacs with storclas keywords -- For IBM-MAIN su

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Staller, Allan
I am attempting to retire the DATACLAS entirely Why is it that you think you need to change the dataclass? Once the dataset has been allocated, changing the dataclass should have no effect that I can think of. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Migration to z/os 1.11 causes Paging in DB2 DBM1 address space

2010-08-05 Thread August Carideo
On a Z10 it is Ted MacNEIL To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Spencer, Mike
Altering the DATACLAS is not the same as say the MANAGEMENTCLAS. DATACLAS can be used for both SMS and non-SMS managed data sets. I would find it hard to understand the reasoning behind changing the assigned value on the fly. There are too many items associated with DATACLAS that determines t

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:37 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: SMS question > > Why is it that you think you need to change the dataclass? > Once the

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Scott Rowe
Why is it that you think you need to change the dataclass? Once the dataset has been allocated, changing the dataclass should have no effect that I can think of. >>> "Staller, Allan" 8/5/2010 10:21 AM >>> Esteemed Listers, After RTFM'ing, testing and googl'ing I have been unable to come up wi

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Habres, Richard J
The manual you are referring to is for IBM's version of CR+. Not IDCAMS. If the data set is important, I would be very careful. Richard J Habres Jacksonville, Fl -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Thursday,

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Matan Cohen
ops! i now notice you are talking about dataclass ...sorry! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Matan Cohen wrote: > did you try use DFDSS ? > you have the option to copy with delete and specify bypassacs with storclas > keywords > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: > >> On Thu,

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Matan Cohen
did you try use DFDSS ? you have the option to copy with delete and specify bypassacs with storclas keywords On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM, McKown, John > wrote: > >> -Original Message- > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > >> [

Re: z196, AWLC updated information

2010-08-05 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/5/2010 3:30:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, vanbrabant...@gmail.com writes: ERROR 404 - PAGE NOT FOUND >> Watch the trailing period. I got in-no problem. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive ac

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-05 Thread zMan
You seem ... angry and hostile. I'm sorry to have aggravated you. I hope you feel better soon! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) < shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net > wrote: > In , on > 08/04/2010 >at 11:50 AM, zMan said: > > >Ah. I actually was paying attention, > > Had you

Re: Slightly OT - India against outsourcing?

2010-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <263395350882ce4d818eb08cd97b1bf70215e...@crplivexc52.citnet.cit.com>, on 08/03/2010 at 04:03 PM, Ken Porowski said: >and would have two years to replace foreign engineers with >local hires. I vaguely recall that a similar policy was a contributing factor in the Bhopal disaster. --

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 08/04/2010 at 11:50 AM, zMan said: >Ah. I actually was paying attention, Had you been paying attention you would have noticed that the text I quoted in <20100803124815.8e8f1f58...@smtp.patriot.net> terminated in Or is Linux not technically a "flavor of Unix"? >PaulG asked Mo

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Mike Schwab
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM, McKown, John wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab >> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 9:36 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >> Subject: Re: SMS question >> >> On Thu, Aug 5

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Staller, Allan
Unfortunately, I do not have Tivoli/ACM <> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Staller, Allan wrote: > Esteemed Listers, > > After RTFM'ing, testing and googl'ing I have been unable to come up with > an answer to the following question: > > Is there any way (other than recreating the dataset) to alte

Re: Linkage conventions (was Re: z/OS 1.12 beta sites)

2010-08-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 07:10:14 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: > >I'm not saying the doc is wrong, I'm saying I can't understand >what it's trying to convey. I can't use it to consistently >explain the rationale behind the various save area formats. I thought I understood what the old book said, but I h

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 9:36 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: SMS question > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Staller, Allan > wrote: > > Esteemed L

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 9:22 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: SMS question > > Esteemed Listers, > > After RTFM'ing, testing and googl'ing I have been

Re: SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Mike Schwab
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Staller, Allan wrote: > Esteemed Listers, > > After RTFM'ing, testing and googl'ing I have been unable to come up with > an answer to the following question: > > Is there any way (other than recreating the dataset) to alter or remove > the SMS DATACLAS currently ass

Re: ways of limt the idle time for a tso user.

2010-08-05 Thread Matan Cohen
Elardus - thanks I now noticed what you wrote about the exit. because of my lack of knowledge in assembly & the priority of the different activities I got - edit an exit is a very slow process . a good example of this is that I'm not yet finish to edit ikjefln2 although i know what should be d

SMS question

2010-08-05 Thread Staller, Allan
Esteemed Listers, After RTFM'ing, testing and googl'ing I have been unable to come up with an answer to the following question: Is there any way (other than recreating the dataset) to alter or remove the SMS DATACLAS currently assigned? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide, --

Re: ways of limt the idle time for a tso user.

2010-08-05 Thread Chris Mason
Matan > we are yet to install the ikjefln2 exit which allow reconnect In researching my response I was reminded that the instigator of a thread where in fact I was made aware of the LOGONHERE function in TSO was one Matan Cohen. Thus you already know everything I was minded to point out. For a

Re: ways of limt the idle time for a tso user.

2010-08-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Matan Cohen wrote: >i found the option of TIMEOUT in racf ... now testing it! That is for CICS session! Not for TSO. Did you see my post earlier on HOW you can do it with an exit? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-08-05 Thread Bill Fairchild
I was testing software on MVS/XA in mid-1983. I think it was first available in 1Q 83. Bill Fairchild -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 5:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua

Re: ways of limt the idle time for a tso user.

2010-08-05 Thread Matan Cohen
i found the option of TIMEOUT in racf ... now testing it! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Matan Cohen wrote: > this user was created for the purpose to be a public user . > I'm not concerned for open datasets cause this user don't open any > datasets. > I want to avoid using REXX. & etc I'm look

Re: ways of limt the idle time for a tso user.

2010-08-05 Thread Matan Cohen
this user was created for the purpose to be a public user . I'm not concerned for open datasets cause this user don't open any datasets. I want to avoid using REXX. & etc I'm looking for a definition if one exist ( in TSO \ RACF ) which can able me to to do so. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:13 PM, El

Re: ways of limt the idle time for a tso user.

2010-08-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I have a user which is used by many people on my z/os That is a big security exposure. Why not give each user their own ID? That way, if something wrong (deliberate, or accident) is done, you know by whom. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! ---

Re: Migration to z/os 1.11 causes Paging in DB2 DBM1 address space

2010-08-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Larger HSA? >What is your D M=STOR shows before & after the change? Isn't the HSA independent of user memory, now? - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive acce

Re: ways of limt the idle time for a tso user.

2010-08-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Matan Cohen wrote: >I have a user which is used by many people on my z/os Are your auditors agreeing to this 'not recommended' situation? >we are yet to install the ikjefln2 exit which allow reconnect - the original >exit have priviliges problem and we are still examing how we can overcome t

Re: Region Size - Step or Jobcard

2010-08-05 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#16 Region Size - Step or Jobcard i.e. MVS was still mostly the same address space ... or every MVS virtual address space was mostly the same (some installations, 13mbytes & threatening to become 14mbytes, of every 16mbyte virtual address space) ... in lar

Re: ways of limt the idle time for a tso user.

2010-08-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Matan Cohen wrote: >i familiar with the way of limit AS idle time by SMFPRM but I don't want to force a diffrent policy on the rest of the user\AS. Use SUBSYSTEM(TSO(IEFUTL)) and see below. >is there a way to limit the idle time specific for this user ( we are on z/1.10 with RACF)? Yes. Use UTL

ways of limt the idle time for a tso user.

2010-08-05 Thread Matan Cohen
Hi, I have a user which is used by many people on my z/os - we are yet to install the ikjefln2 exit which allow reconnect - the original exit have priviliges problem and we are still examing how we can overcome this problem . so the situation is that the user can be connected beacuse someone forgo

Re: Migration to z/os 1.11 causes Paging in DB2 DBM1 address space

2010-08-05 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 03:46:50 -0500, Sheldon Davis wrote: > >We migrated to z/os 1.11 on one of our production machines. > >Before the upgrade we had almost no paging. >We now see quite a lot of paging from DB2. >Any ideas ?? > Not really. Did anything else change that could have changed storage

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <49d10073ebab7b4d9dc1fc75de2eb9fb121...@blr-m3-msg.wipro.com>, on 07/23/2010 at 05:57 PM, - Tibish Mathew said: > Can someone please get my email-ID out of this mailing list ? Yes. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: remove() of PDSE member leaves PDS locked

2010-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 07/26/2010 at 12:23 PM, Paul Gilmartin gibbered: >I know; Shmuel will say >that wouldn't be safe. Well, if you're going to tell everybody what I'm going to say, I hope that you don't mind if I start telling everybody what you're going to say. How about you tell everybody what *your* g

Re: Linkage conventions (was Re: z/OS 1.12 beta sites)

2010-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4c5966b6.7050...@trainersfriend.com>, on 08/04/2010 at 07:10 AM, Steve Comstock said: >Umm, how can I tell from the example that this will be >a 216-byte save area? Why do you need to? The whole point of using the mapping macros is to avoid coding "magic numbers" into your program. --

Re: remove() of PDSE member leaves PDS locked

2010-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 07/27/2010 at 11:50 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: >Thinking of it, ISPF is probably bad advice. You'd need to be >running under ISPF, which means you'd need to be running under TSO, >which means you'd need to be running APF authorized. Really? Why do you believe that your program has to

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 07/23/2010 at 12:00 PM, Don Williams said: >Not in 1988. MVS/XA was available well before 1988. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The

Re: Running IKJEFT01 in Batch receive command SYS00006

2010-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <006f01cb2a80$10f25ad0$32d710...@net>, on 07/23/2010 at 11:59 AM, Micheal Butz said: >My question doing a receive command what does SYS6 Look for SYS6 is just a generated ddname; you can't tell anything from it. If you put a PROFILE WTPMSG command before the RECEIVE, do you get an

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 07/22/2010 at 03:53 PM, john gilmore said: >Why not PROP instead? Tradition, and there's more than one. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 07/23/2010 at 11:35 AM, Don Williams said: >PCP -> MFT -> MVT -> MVS... IBM sales was changing the name even when >it was "free" Those weren't name changes; "PCP", "MFT" and "MVT" were names of options within OS/360. You want old name changes, try OS/360->OS/VS or DOS/360->DOS/VS->DOS

Re: Current SHARE Proceedings

2010-08-05 Thread Jim Elliott, IBM
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 09:18:53 -0500, Scott Fagen wrote: >Here's the byzantine path to get to the current proceedings: ... > >That should take you to a page where you can search the agenda or select by >day and track. I'm not sure what or if there is a delay between the speaker >posting the PDF fil

Re: Migration to z/os 1.11 causes Paging in DB2 DBM1 address space

2010-08-05 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Larger HSA? What is your D M=STOR shows before & after the change? ITschak On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Sheldon Davis wrote: > Hi > > We migrated to z/os 1.11 on one of our production machines. > > Before the upgrade we had almost no paging. > We now see quite a lot of paging from DB2. > Any

Migration to z/os 1.11 causes Paging in DB2 DBM1 address space

2010-08-05 Thread Sheldon Davis
Hi We migrated to z/os 1.11 on one of our production machines. Before the upgrade we had almost no paging. We now see quite a lot of paging from DB2. Any ideas ?? Thanks in advance Sheldon Davis -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / sig

Re: z196, AWLC updated information

2010-08-05 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
ERROR 404 - PAGE NOT FOUND On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Al Sherkow wrote: > It's public today. The question was asked this morning at Share. The z196 > tech dividend is provided through the new AWLC pricing metric & NOT > separation of HW MSUs & SW MSUs. I've updated my analysis of the z1