Re: Non-cancelable task - tso

2011-06-12 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi, "Perhaps if you could be kind to state WHY you want to stop it? Perhaps there is something we all missed... ". During IPL it happened. it was just part of IPL and it was our sandbox region. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht < elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote: > jaga

Re: Non-cancelable task - tso

2011-06-12 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
jagadishan perumal wrote: >>3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck Do D A,TSO and check that you correctly used A= in the FORCE command. As documented, take note that issuing a FORCE command may result in an IPL. Also check your identifier of TSO. Perhaps this example shows you the identifier TCAS

Re: Non-cancelable task - tso

2011-06-12 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi, D R,R = No outstanding messages, D TS,L - zero under TS USERS D NET,MAJNODES - vtam not active , but when i do /D A,VTAM = vtam address space is still active. I am issuing all this commands from console. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht < elardus.eng

Re: Non-cancelable task - tso

2011-06-12 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
jagadishan perumal wrote: >I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : >1) stop tso - No luck >2) force tso,arm - No luck >3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck >I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messa

Re: IBM doc numbering question

2011-06-12 Thread William Donzelli
> The values I know of, with their "old" definitions are: This is exactly the information I am looking for - many thanks! > The Use Keys came into use somewhere in the late 1960s. That would explain why my original example for the 2540 had no S, but the equivalent manuals for other S/360 era mac

Re: Non-cancelable task - tso

2011-06-12 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Are you running any product on this LPAR. Also try 3270 address space and then recycle TSO . Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:32 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, I did D TS,L and there are no active TSO users. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:22 AM, saurabh khandelwal mailto:saurabh.

Re: Non-cancelable task - tso

2011-06-12 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi, I did D TS,L and there are no active TSO users. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:22 AM, saurabh khandelwal < saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com> wrote: > Can you confirm if any of your TSO users are still logged on to System. If > yes, then cancel that user id and then try to stop TSO wi

Re: Non-cancelable task - tso

2011-06-12 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Can you confirm if any of your TSO users are still logged on to System. If yes, then cancel that user id and then try to stop TSO with P TSO command. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:19 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, When I give P TSO - Non- cancelable task - issue force arm Then, I gave :

Re: Non-cancelable task - tso

2011-06-12 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi, When I give P TSO - Non- cancelable task - issue force arm Then, I gave : force tso,arm - command accepted. When I do D A,TSO - still the tso address space is up. then, I gave : force tso,arm,A=asid, but still the tso task is up. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:17 AM, saurabh kh

Re: Non-cancelable task - tso

2011-06-12 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Can you please see, if you are getting any messages, while issuing this command. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:16 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, I tried with P TSO too but no luck. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, saurabh khandelwal mailto:saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com>>

Re: Non-cancelable task - tso

2011-06-12 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi, I tried with P TSO too but no luck. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, saurabh khandelwal < saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com> wrote: > I think you can try P TSO command, which will make your TSO down. > > Regards > Saurabh > > > On 6/13/2011 10:10 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: >

Re: Non-cancelable task - tso

2011-06-12 Thread saurabh khandelwal
I think you can try P TSO command, which will make your TSO down. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:10 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=A

Non-cancelable task - tso

2011-06-12 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi, I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone p

Re: IBM doc numbering question

2011-06-12 Thread Tony Harminc
On 12 June 2011 16:06, William Donzelli wrote: > So when filing these things away on the shelf, would it be safe to > assume that the initial S or G or whatever the first letter of a four > character alphanumeric prefix is, can be ignored? For example, would: > > S100-1234-0 > G100-1234-1 > S101-

Re: BatchPipes/MVS

2011-06-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:46:31 -0500, John McKown wrote: > >Personally, if I want to do this sort of thing, I use Co:Z from Dovetailed >Technologies to run under z/OS UNIX using its piping. It is possible to run >normal batch work via a UNIX shell. It is just a bit more difficulty to >allocate the d

BDT and PDSEs

2011-06-12 Thread Cheryl Watson
The SHARE MVSE project is reviewing some older requirements and this one came as a surprise to me. It's requirement SSSHARE012987 and was submitted on 11/01/1994: "We run and maintain MVS in tw

Re: DCBs and DCBEs - Could IBM have done it any worse?

2011-06-12 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 10:01 +0300 on 06/12/2011, Binyamin Dissen wrote about Re: DCBs and DCBEs - Could IBM have done it any worse?: :>I have a vague memory of cases where an operation returns a success :>RC but also a subcode that indicates that the classification of :>success was due to some requests not being

Re: BatchPipes/MVS

2011-06-12 Thread Cris Hernandez #9
If you have seriously large quantities of data to process in a short amount of time, it works wonders. used it back when it was new, had 5 jobs reading multi tape volumes feeding the rest of the 20 batch jobs running various sorts & appl programs. works great when all goes well, a real bear wh

Re: BatchPipes/MVS

2011-06-12 Thread John McKown
I agree. Also our programmers would most likely declare it too complicated to use. Personally, if I want to do this sort of thing, I use Co:Z from Dovetailed Technologies to run under z/OS UNIX using its piping. It is possible to run normal batch work via a UNIX shell. It is just a bit more diff

Re: retraction ...

2011-06-12 Thread Scott Ford
MIM is pretty good but I am  bias, worked for Legent   Scott J Ford   From: John McKown To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 5:19:36 PM Subject: Re: retraction ... I think CA-7 is fairly decent, but quite complicated. OT: I'm in the acute care ho

Re: DCBs and DCBEs - Could IBM have done it any worse?

2011-06-12 Thread Ken Brick
On 13/06/2011 02:24 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: It hasn't changed a whole lot; it's still way easy to get Sx13 ABENDs: READY allocate dd(sysin) shr reuse dsn('sys1.maclib(nonesuch)') READY call *(iebgener) DATA SET UTILITY - GENERATE PAGE 0001 IEC141

Re: DCBs and DCBEs - Could IBM have done it any worse?

2011-06-12 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 6/12/2011 3:00 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: That just shows it's inconsistent. Sometimes RC<>0; sometimes Sx13. I suspect (with no evidence whatever) the utility checks for a DDNAME allocation (but why bother?) If it's absent, exit with return code; if it's present, attempt the OPEN which may A

Re: DCBs and DCBEs - Could IBM have done it any worse?

2011-06-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:33:39 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >On 6/12/2011 9:24 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> allocate dd(sysin) shr reuse dsn('sys1.maclib(nonesuch)') >> READY >> call *(iebgener) >> DATA SET UTILITY - GENERATE PAGE >> 0001 >> IEC141I >> 0

Re: DCBs and DCBEs - Could IBM have done it any worse?

2011-06-12 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 6/12/2011 9:24 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: allocate dd(sysin) shr reuse dsn('sys1.maclib(nonesuch)') READY call *(iebgener) DATA SET UTILITY - GENERATE PAGE 0001 IEC141I 013-18,IGG0191B,user,$STCTSO1,SYSIN,4140,MVS3RS,SYS1.MACLIB(NONESUCH) IKJ56641

Re: BatchPipes/MVS

2011-06-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
If I correctly understand the functioning of Batchpipes in that document, ISTM that it has the disadvantage that if one end of the pipe fails for any reason, then *both* ends would have to be rerun. That can be more disruptive and batch-window-time-consuming than just needing to rerun one of th

Re: IBM doc numbering question

2011-06-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I remember (years ago), when I was working for a Canadian Insurance company, the local IBM rep told us we should be filing ignoring the first letter. But, I explained to him that our admins (secretaries - not sysprogs) didn't know the secret handshake. So, imo, I don't think it matters. Pick a s

Re: IBM doc numbering question

2011-06-12 Thread William Donzelli
> Hardware manuals were provided when you installed the hardware, regardless > of any prefix value. IIRC, > most of the S/360-related hardware books were "G" prefixed. Thanks so far, the pair of you. So when filing these things away on the shelf, would it be safe to assume that the initial S or G

Re: retraction ...

2011-06-12 Thread Ed Gould
Bernard, No, the original writer was duquesne(sp?) systems out of Pittsburgh. If memory serves me it was written for my company by them. They had also written QCM a performance management system. They also wrote PMO (iirc LLA put them out) I think they also wrote Quickfetch which was also supers

BatchPipes/MVS

2011-06-12 Thread Cheryl Watson
Is anyone using this product? Is it worth the price (somewhere between $300- $2000/month)? Would you use it if it came as part of z/OS? I've searched the IBM-Main archives and found one question in each of the last four years, but I found that IBM documentation is missing in action. I'm thinking

Re: retraction ...

2011-06-12 Thread Campbell Jay
Duquesne ? -> Legent ? -> CA Jay Campbell IBM OS Support Section -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gerhard Postpischil Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 2:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: retraction ... On 6/11/20

Re: retraction ...

2011-06-12 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 6/11/2011 2:00 PM, Ed Gould wrote: Of course you are correct. MIM was originally written by dusquene systems ( pittsburg). Both enq and tape parts anyway. When you called you actually talked with a code writer and could seem to see issues in the code as you went through the debugging process.

Re: DCBs and DCBEs - Could IBM have done it any worse?

2011-06-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:01:14 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: > >At one time OPEN non-VSAM did not have return codes. You had to check DCBOFOPN >to see if it did its job. Seems like that has changed. > It hasn't changed a whole lot; it's still way easy to get Sx13 ABENDs: READY allocate dd(sysin) sh

Re: IBM doc numbering question

2011-06-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
So I am working at cataloging my collection of older IBM documents, and came across: 2540 Card Read Punch Parts Catalog (121-0545-3) Picky question - can I assume that there should be an S prefixing the document number, as in S12

Re: IBM doc numbering question

2011-06-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Not sure about the 121 prefix, but ISTR that "S" in front of a manual number usually meant "for sale by IBM", i.e., they didn't give it to you free for the asking, you had to pay them to get a copy. "G" as the initial letter was for the "free" documentation and later "L" was for "Licensed" docu

Re: 1021 STP

2011-06-12 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Sun, Jun 12th, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Azim Syed wrote: > Hi , > > Please can some one help in this, we have 2 z9 BC machines . We want to > install STP 1021 (Sysplex Timer Protocol) but SBM (IBM Rep) in our > region > saying its withdrawn from Marketing since June 2010. > > Can any third party Ven

1021 STP

2011-06-12 Thread Azim Syed
Hi , Please can some one help in this, we have 2 z9 BC machines . We want to install STP 1021 (Sysplex Timer Protocol) but SBM (IBM Rep) in our region saying its withdrawn from Marketing since June 2010. Can any third party Vendor still selling this STP and Maintaining it. Thanks for your usual

Re: Catalog Mapping.

2011-06-12 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
To map each user into a user catalog, perform the following when the user is logged off. Use the Access Method Services manual as reference. 1 - REPRO MERGECAT all datasets with the user's high level qualifier from the master catalog to the desired user catalog. 2 - DEFINE ALIAS to relat

Re: DCBs and DCBEs - Could IBM have done it any worse?

2011-06-12 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:42:22 -0400 "Robert A. Rosenberg" wrote: :>At 22:44 +0300 on 06/11/2011, Binyamin Dissen wrote about Re: DCBs :>and DCBEs - Could IBM have done it any worse?: :> :>>The only thing that I can think of is that IBM was trying to be "user :>>friendly" and was concerned that pr