Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2012-01-03 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi All, I ran a report Against a TSO ID which had a volume contention and found the below as the result : Samples: 100 System: ZOSB Date: 01/04/12 Time: 12.43.20 Range: 100 Sec Job: *TCHN039* Primary delay: Excessive pending time on volume Z18RS1. Probable causes: 1) Contention w

Re: How to find a PDS member

2012-01-03 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Graham Hobbs" wrote in message news:<5e97g75eqo2bi4cfbrhqcm9phcacji9...@4ax.com>... > Hello, > Just returned to z/OS mainframe after 10 years, working alone, nobody > to talk to:-(. My first elementary question: > > - there are many PDS's in the environment I now have access to > - need to find

Re: Copying a PDS to a similiar PDS (backup)

2012-01-03 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Graham Hobbs" wrote in message news:... > Hello, > Just returned to z/OS mainframe after 10 years, working alone, nobody > to talk to:-(. My next elementary question: > > - I need to backup my 80 byte source library PDS's > - have read that IEBCOPY is no longer authorized .. and I couldn't > mak

Re: removing nulls from a file

2012-01-03 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Good luck!  Depending on a user to remember to do something special is fraught with hazards.  But ya gots to do what ya gots to do.  :-) > > From: "Wissink, Brad [ITSYS]" >To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:05 PM >Subject: Re: removi

Re: A design question

2012-01-03 Thread Anthony Thompson
Sweet. I'd love to see any snippets of C++ code like that that talks to z/OS facilities. Not a great C++/Java programmer yet :( Pretty much standard z/OS Assembler/REXX as far as programming goes. What I want to do is write a BCPii interface that is Windoze driven (i.e. Java that calls C++?).

Re: A design question

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
Charles, More or less what we have talked about internally. Good to know its doable. Ty for the information. Regards , Scott Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > FWIW I have an STC written in C++ and assembler that accepts MODIFY commands > and > > 1.Only

Re: A design question

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
Sam, Yes, very true Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Sam Siegel wrote: > Scott - Another option is to have an assembler driver that attaches the > various tasks. Each sub task can be an assembler program that uses CEEPIPI > to setup LE and call the C program. > > Then you have a

Re: A design question

2012-01-03 Thread Charles Mills
FWIW I have an STC written in C++ and assembler that accepts MODIFY commands and 1. Only requires one task. The task does WAIT ECBLIST on a number of ECB's: regular work, timer, MODIFY command. 2. Accepts F proc,command. I use __console2 () for basic WTOs but assembler for multi-line

Re: A design question

2012-01-03 Thread Sam Siegel
Scott - Another option is to have an assembler driver that attaches the various tasks. Each sub task can be an assembler program that uses CEEPIPI to setup LE and call the C program. Then you have a 'classic' subtask structure instead of a pthread structure. Sam On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:29 PM,

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
John, Yep, i agree . Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2012, at 7:56 PM, John McKown wrote: > There is, IMO, a lot of stuff "missing" from z/OS UNIX. Such as the > initially mentioned "netcat" command. > > On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 17:35 -0700, Gerard Nicol wrote: >> That would imply that you need to be

Re: IBM TS7740 Copy/Export process

2012-01-03 Thread Pinnacle
Russ, Unfortunately, you need to save the status files and rely on the BVIR reports to figure out which volumes have been copy exported to which containers. Since they can be copy exported to multiple containers, and neither RMM nor CA-1 is designed to handle that, filling in the fields as i

Re: IBM TS7740 Copy/Export process

2012-01-03 Thread Russell Witt
Tom, The "driving eject" is so that our existing eject logic would get control and we didn't have to write a new interface. Granted, a copy of the virtual-volume is still inside the robot (which is why IBM does not drive the EJECT exit); however a copy now resides outside the robot and for DR purp

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
Gerard , One thing to remember is the 7 layer osi model. IBM pretty much follows the design rules. I consulted with GSS a bunch of yrs in NYC and in the days of SNA the 7 layers were pretty much rule/ law written or unwritten it was understood. BTAM,VTAM and TCPIP are network transport, apps do

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread John McKown
There is, IMO, a lot of stuff "missing" from z/OS UNIX. Such as the initially mentioned "netcat" command. On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 17:35 -0700, Gerard Nicol wrote: > That would imply that you need to be talking SMTP to get the data from the > z/OS SMTP server to the remote SMTP server. > For this to

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Mike Schwab
You only have to get the z/OS programmer to start the outgoing mail server going, They you add the email header to the top, the Period CRLF QUIT at the bottom, and put the right destination value on the sysout statement. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Gerard Nicol wrote: > That would imply that

Re: A design question

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
Lol , I love it Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Dave Kopischke wrote: >> >> (shall we call it USS for short?) >> > > Here it is a new year and you start by dredging up that old Navy acronym > controversy again. > > tsk tsk tsk > > ---

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Gerard Nicol
That would imply that you need to be talking SMTP to get the data from the z/OS SMTP server to the remote SMTP server. For this to work for my requirement the traffic would have to be relayed transparently, but it's kinda along the lines of what I was looking for. I can't believe that IBM didn't p

Re: A design question

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
Tony, Thanks for the info. I know I could also issue an 'attach' and have it perform the console ops. And then 'detach' when a shutdown command is issued. Still doing some thinking... Regards, Scott Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: > On 3 January 2012 14:28,

Re: A design question

2012-01-03 Thread Dave Kopischke
> > (shall we call it USS for short?) > Here it is a new year and you start by dredging up that old Navy acronym controversy again. tsk tsk tsk -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to li

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Lionel Dyck
The mail server on z/OS must be configured and it will then take the input from the JES SPOOL and route it to any valid SMTP server on the intra/internet. Lionel B. Dyck <>< z Client Architect IBM Corporation - West IMT Mobile Phone: 1-925-207-4518 E-mail: lionel.d...@us.ibm.com System z: www

Re: A design question

2012-01-03 Thread Tony Harminc
On 3 January 2012 14:28, McKown, John wrote: > This is what you need to get familar with: > > http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/EDCLB1B0/3.138 > > > General Description > > Used to communicate with the operator's console. The __console2() function > allows users to send

Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2012-01-03 Thread Gibney, Dave
Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 5:47 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Clarification

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Mike Schwab
There is an SMTP function within JES on z/OS, and it sends an email to your email account on the web. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Gerard Nicol wrote: > Mike, > > I am unfamiliar with this technique. > So you are sending to an SMTP server via JES2? > Does this only work for z/Linux or could yo

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
Yep, this another way if zLinux is connected and has an email server running. Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Gerard Nicol wrote: > Mike, > > I am unfamiliar with this technique. > So you are sending to an SMTP server via JES2? > Does this only work for z/Linux or could you also

Re: Eight-character TSO Userid Support

2012-01-03 Thread Hal Merritt
Yea, I complained about beling allowed to create the segment only to have it ignored and wondered why I wasn't warned when I defined it. I was politely pointed to the: IKJ56644I NO VALID TSO USERID, DEFAULT USER ATTRIBUTES USED ... as my warning/error message. I believe that RACF should fai

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Gerard Nicol
Mike, I am unfamiliar with this technique. So you are sending to an SMTP server via JES2? Does this only work for z/Linux or could you also send to an intel Linux as well? Gerard -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab

Re: SV: cpu / machine identification

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
Rick, Like your style Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: > ---: > >> Zman, >> In that case a .45 automatic and a big dog comes in handy, lol , sorry just >> couldn't resist..

Re: Re-Linkling a load module with AC(1)

2012-01-03 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Try eliminating the second include. Also verify that PCOPY actually has text. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Fred Kaptein > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 1:11 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re-Linkling

Re: PDS Command - 40 Years Old

2012-01-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
- Thanks. I hadn't seen that. It's almost useless for large modules though. You need to keep hitting '0' to continue the display and after a while the top of the listing rolls off. --

Re: SV: cpu / machine identification

2012-01-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
---: Zman, In that case a .45 automatic and a big dog comes in handy, lol , sorry just couldn't resist.. Regards, Scott -

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Mike Schwab
You said SEND to Linux. How about an email to your account? //GENRSMTP PROC HLQ=hlq.mlq.rlq,LLQ=DUMMY,GEN='(+1)', // LIB=library.PARMLIB,MEM=genrcard //STEP02 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER,COND=EVEN //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUT1 DD DSN=&HLQ..&LLQ.&GEN,DISP=SHR,RECFM=FB //SYSUT2 DD SYSO

Re: Question on adding an SVC routine dynamically to a running system

2012-01-03 Thread Tony Harminc
On 3 January 2012 14:33, Dave Day wrote: >   I have a software offering that Dave Cole markets. You can go to his > website, and take a look at z/XPF.  It competes in a niche market on z/OS, > application profiling. What makes mine different from the other guys in this > arena is the approach I us

Re: Date and time of IPL API?

2012-01-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:53:08 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 21:22:33 -0600, Jim Thomas >wrote: > >>IPA = Initial (or IPL) parameter area ... take a peek at IHAIPA. >> >>Jim >> > >The time from "D IPLINFO" is slightly different than the time in the >SMCA. "D IPLINFO" may get it

Re; cpu / machine identification

2012-01-03 Thread Dale Miller
Scott Ford wrote: "Been on the phone with a certain ISP and had to tell them how to shoot the problem." I worked for a company whose business involved processing records of pharmaceutical sales. We had processing centers in diverse locations which entailed a lot of data transmission. The

Re: strcoll(), sort(1), LC_COLLATE (and perhaps DFSORT)

2012-01-03 Thread Frank Yaeger
Paul Gilmartin on IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 01/03/2012 05:48:30 AM: > And, BTW, I'm quite unfamiliar with DFSORT. What collating > options does it support? DFSORT's support for LOCALE is described in "z/OS DFSORT Application Programming Guide", e.g. General: http://publibz.boulder

Re: A design question

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
John, I am in your debt, man you just shone a big light on this issue for me, wow!!! Regards, A big Ty Scott Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2012, at 2:28 PM, "McKown, John" wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 31 Dec 2011 to 1 Jan 2012 (#2012-1)

2012-01-03 Thread Roger Bolan
If you were referring to the pictures in the BookManager format of the book, rather than the AFP format, then see http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/BOOKS/EPHZ2L03/4.2.10?SHELF=&DT=20050922160211&CASE= for an explanation. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Roger Bolan wrote: > On Mon,

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 31 Dec 2011 to 1 Jan 2012 (#2012-1)

2012-01-03 Thread Roger Bolan
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 9:21 AM, David Boyes wrote: > > Big hassle: the illustrations in the older manuals are in APF format, > which isn't documented anywhere. > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 31 Dec 2011 to 1 Jan 2012 (#2012-1)

2012-01-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 01/03/2012 at 01:24 PM, zMan said: >Well now, let's use our imaginations, boys and girls. Presumably he >has that idea because he's been unable to find any such >documentation. I've been unable to find lots of things that existed, some of them right under my nose. >needlessly obtuse?

Re: Date and time of IPL API?

2012-01-03 Thread Charles Mills
I thought it meant Unix System Services, if you regularly read ... oh, never mind. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Date a

Re: IBM TS7740 Copy/Export process

2012-01-03 Thread Pinnacle
Russ, You sure you want to do that? Export/Copy leaves the virtual volume in the library, and it can still be accessed. If you drive EJC, that volume will be exported. I agree with you that Export/Copy is a cluster f of the first order, but updating ACTVOL and driving EJC for these volumes

Re: Question on adding an SVC routine dynamically to a running system

2012-01-03 Thread Dave Day
I have a software offering that Dave Cole markets. You can go to his website, and take a look at z/XPF. It competes in a niche market on z/OS, application profiling. What makes mine different from the other guys in this arena is the approach I use to get the profiling data. Instead of esta

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:18 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support > > In , > on 01/03/2012 >

Re: A design question

2012-01-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:17 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: A design question > > All, > > I am looking to rewrite a COBOL app(stc) in C. The current >

Re: A design question

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
Sam:   Thanks a lot. As I type i have the url open in a browser Hey send me your resume to scott.f...@identityforge.com Regards, Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com   From: Sam Siegel To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, January

Re: PDS Command - 40 Years Old

2012-01-03 Thread Dave Salt
Another way to see an AMBLIST is to select load modules from a SimpList member list using function 'A'. Or, if you only need to know the link date, select the member(s) using function 'K'. The link date is then displayed in MMDD format next to each selected member. Dave Salt SimpList(tm)

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <5999379416490322.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@bama.ua.edu>, on 01/03/2012 at 08:28 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht said: >After I have rereading their replies and your requirement, I see your >point. Perhaps they will chime in again giving hopefully better >replies. Scott's reply was fine as

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 01/03/2012 at 10:59 AM, "McKown, John" said: >I was also looking at "scripting" a telnet session. But the only >telnet client I could find on z/OS 1.10 was TSO based and used 3270 >macros (TPUT / TGET) instead of GETLINE and PUTLINE. TPUT and TGET are not 3270 macros, although I doubt

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <7c5d174bbb4e5446626772d92f79d...@mail.gmail.com>, on 01/03/2012 at 07:08 AM, Gerard Nicol said: >Thanks for your reply. I'm not exactly sure why people always presume >that someone asking a question they don't understand is some sort of >moron, For the same reason you presume that someone

Re: Question on adding an SVC routine dynamically to a running system

2012-01-03 Thread John Gilmore
Tom Marchant wrote: | What's wrong with just issuing a TIME macro to get the time entry? Notionally, this would greatly reduce system overheads; but if elapsed time is what is required, what's wrong with a pair of STCKEs? Using them would reduce these overheads to zero. It may be, however, that

Re: A design question

2012-01-03 Thread Sam Siegel
Scott - The answer is yes. Please see: https://computing.llnl.gov/tutorials/pthreads/ for some examples that include thread coordination. Sam On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Scott Ford wrote: > All, > > I am looking to rewrite a COBOL app(stc) in C. The current code calls a > lot of assembl

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 31 Dec 2011 to 1 Jan 2012 (#2012-1)

2012-01-03 Thread zMan
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >David Boyes said: >>Big hassle: the illustrations in the older manuals are in APF format, >>which isn't documented anywhere. > What gives you that idea? Well now, let's use our imaginations, boys and girls. Presumably he has that

Re: SV: cpu / machine identification

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
Zman, In that case a .45 automatic and a big dog comes in handy, lol , sorry just couldn't resist.. Regards, Scott Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2012, at 1:17 PM, zMan wrote: > Yes. I know folks who live near prisons: they leave cars unlocked with > keys in them, on the theory that if someone b

Re: Question on adding an SVC routine dynamically to a running system

2012-01-03 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 12:58:46 -0600, Dave Day wrote: >I was using the trace entry in the trace table as a trigger >mechanism for my code. By matching entries, I can give count and elapsed >time in my reporting logic. You lost me there. You want to issue an SVC to cause a trace entry to be create

Re: PDS Command - 40 Years Old

2012-01-03 Thread Don Poitras
Mark, That's somewhat better. Only 4 '0's required. Still lost the top of the listing though. I used the max of 64000 lines, but the AMBLIST of the module I'm looking at produces 123000 lines. I suppose I could figure out where in the source this limit is set, but it's just not that big a deal to

A design question

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
All, I am looking to rewrite a COBOL app(stc) in C. The current code calls a lot of assembler sub routines,which isn't a problem, but we do call an assembler operator interface which uses the MVS modify command interface.I want to do the same in C using pthreads, with one thread being activate

Re: SV: cpu / machine identification

2012-01-03 Thread zMan
Yes. I know folks who live near prisons: they leave cars unlocked with keys in them, on the theory that if someone breaks out, they'd rather they take the car and go than come into the house... On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Bill Fairchild wrote: > I have had two different cars of mine broken i

Re: XML Generate String Length

2012-01-03 Thread Dave Kopischke
> Isn't there a memory size parameter on the CICS program entry? > -- > Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA > Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? Yes, I think this is it: Maxdatalen defined on the service. We have it set to 1024 which I believe is kilobytes. As it turns out, it

Re: Question on adding an SVC routine dynamically to a running system

2012-01-03 Thread Bill Fairchild
You're right. I'm wrong. PR causes a trace entry to be formed if it follows a PC but not if it follows a BAKR. Bill Fairchild -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:51 AM To: IB

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Gerard Nicol
Seriously Chris, what you are saying is that you commented on something without fully understanding it and now want to excuse it because others made the same mistake. Did I make the mistake of assuming only those who understood the question would reply, sure. Guilty as charged. I'm not sure any o

Re: ACCOUNT REPORT

2012-01-03 Thread Greg Shirey
Sergio, you might check out FILE019 on the CBT. Regards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sérgio Lima Costa Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 4:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: ACCOUNT REPORT Hello List. We need

Re: Question on adding an SVC routine dynamically to a running system

2012-01-03 Thread Bill Fairchild
If your code that you want traced in the System Trace table runs authorized, you can also use the TRACE instruction. I did that once to shoot a weird timing problem. Bill Fairchild -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dave

Re: PDS Command - 40 Years Old

2012-01-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 01/03/2012 at 06:34 AM, John P Kalinich said: >Bruce Leland and Steve Smith took the PDS command to a new level >after developing the StarTool® vendor product. Bruce did a lot before that as well, as I recall. >I would like to thank these contributors, whose efforts made this >softw

Re: IBM manual formats

2012-01-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4953978233034455.wa.jan.moeyersonsadelior...@bama.ua.edu>, on 01/03/2012 at 05:39 AM, Jan MOEYERSONS said: >I think you can. Just install the old, but still faithfull Library >Reader for Windows What if you don't run windoze? >(IMHO it still is better than the Java stuff they replaced i

Re: Question on adding an SVC routine dynamically to a running system

2012-01-03 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 16:44:58 +, Bill Fairchild wrote: >A BAKR/PR combination would generate at least one system trace entry Would it? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send e

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gerard Nicol > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:13 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support > > FTP is an option but it complicates th

Re: SV: cpu / machine identification

2012-01-03 Thread Bill Fairchild
I have had two different cars of mine broken into with considerable damage in both cases. But I still leave them locked. I guess this would depend on the crime level where one lives. I also had a car hotwired and stolen once. Since hotwiring could easily cause damage, are there also some wh

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Chris Mason
Elardus > What about FTP? You can use that to specify an IP address ('foreign host > name') ... Yes indeed - although the name must always be translated to an IP address and, as should apply to any well-written "client" program, you can use an IP address directly. A well-written program alway

Re: PDS Command - 40 Years Old

2012-01-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 11:27:49 -0500, Don Poitras wrote: >You need to keep hitting '0' to continue the display and after a >while the top of the listing rolls off. > A little PDS training is in order... :-) Try the "SETLOG" command. Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Chris Mason
Gerard > ... why people always presume that someone asking a question they don't > understand is some sort of moron, ... What was needed in your original post was some effort to put the "netcat" thing into some sort of context with respect to what you *really* wanted to do. http://en.wikipedia

Re: Question on adding an SVC routine dynamically to a running system

2012-01-03 Thread Bill Fairchild
And an SVC cannot be used very well in certain environments (disabled, locked, SRB mode). In such an environment, an SVC xx would indeed generate a system trace entry, followed immediately by an SVC 13 (ABEND) entry. A BAKR/PR combination would generate at least one system trace entry and woul

Re: PDS Command - 40 Years Old

2012-01-03 Thread Don Poitras
John P Kalinich wrote: > > Don Poitras of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List > wrote on 01/03/2012 09:16:02 AM: > > > It's a great program. I wish the support for PDSE that was introduced > > included mapping the entire program object rather than just the B_TEXT > > segment though. As it is, I st

Re: Date and time of IPL API?

2012-01-03 Thread Bill Fairchild
Also International Phonetic Alphabet. Recommended if you regularly read John Gilmore's posts. :-) Bill Fairchild -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Thomas Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 9:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.ed

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Gerard Nicol
Scott, There are an infinite number of options that start with "sneakerware" and end at what I actually want to be able to do ;-) Gerard -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:24 AM To

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
Gerard, On the unix side u could send a acknowledge that the file/ data was received and have a small compiled rexx compost check for completion codes...only a thought ... Regards, Scott Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:12 AM, Gerard Nicol wrote: > FTP is an option but it complicates

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
John, Yeah I agree on the ISPF editor vs 'vi', which is a tad painful to use. I know a lot of non-techies get nervous around unix. Been there done that Regards, Scott Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:01 AM, "McKown, John" wrote: > I don't know. Either for Gerard or even for my shop. M

IBM manual formats

2012-01-03 Thread Joe Ellett
Other than Amazon's proprietary Kindle environment, virtually all eReaders (B&N Nook, Kobo, Sony etc.) and virtually all eBook clients and apps (Apple iPad/iPhone/iPod Touch iBooks, Android Aldiko, etc.) are standardized on the open epub and pdf formats. As John previously remarked, pdf format

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Gerard Nicol
FTP is an option but it complicates things because without rexec there is no way of knowing if the FTPed file has subsequently been processed. I was looking for a solution that displayed the distributed processing of the data in the JES job log. If it's not doable then it's not doable, but it woul

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
Gerard, I can tell you otb, z/ os as far as I know won't do what you want without writing some code. So I guess u can't FTP . Regards, Scott Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Gerard Nicol wrote: > Scott, > > Ideally yes. > Unfortunately these are the constraints I am w

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread McKown, John
I don't know. Either for Gerard or even for my shop. My manager is likely going to be mildly upset at me. Went I implement z/OS 1.12 on the second, production, z/OS image in our shop (we have three: Dev, prod, and "sandbox"), I plan to move most of my personal source data from PDSE datasets to z

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
John, I agree, I don't get the restrictions, is this a management decision or technical restriction or a security issue ? Regards, Scott Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:36 AM, "McKown, John" wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >> [mailto:IB

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Gerard Nicol
Scott, Ideally yes. Unfortunately these are the constraints I am working under in this instance. Incidentally my US Gov clients don't let me run native z/OS programs either and we supply them in source format. Gerard -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:25 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support > > John, > > Excellent ideas and thoughts >

Re: PDS Command - 40 Years Old

2012-01-03 Thread John P Kalinich
Don Poitras of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 01/03/2012 09:16:02 AM: > It's a great program. I wish the support for PDSE that was introduced > included mapping the entire program object rather than just the B_TEXT > segment though. As it is, I still need to use AMBLIST for program >

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
Gerald, So are you saying you don't want a vendor created solution for you customer ? I worked on Wall Street and with govt agencies without these restrictions, in fact we write security products for various US govt agencies. Regards, Scott Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Gerard

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
John, Excellent ideas and thoughts Regards Scott Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:08 AM, "McKown, John" wrote: > I tend to use NFS. The z/Linux system can NFS export a subdirectory. z/OS can > then import that subdirectory, with or without automatic code point > translation. The z/

Re: PDS Command - 40 Years Old

2012-01-03 Thread Don Poitras
John P Kalinich wrote: > > The PDS command is still running today in the z/OS environment. Tom > Springer, Steve Smith, and William Finkelstein were the original authors 40 > years ago when they worked together at Security Pacific National Bank. > Bruce Leland and Steve Smith took the PDS command

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Gerard Nicol
Scott, I support a system that has to talk with RMM, Control-M/Tape, Zara, CA-1 and TLMS. I have a customer who themselves have many z/OS customers who are unlikely to allow my native z/OS load module to be installed so my solution is to give them a JCL proc that they can call at the end of their

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Gerard Nicol
John, I don't have the ability to install any software on my client's machines as they run those machines on behalf of their clients. Many of these clients may not have configured USS subsystems. I have contemplated using some sort of rexec step, but you then have to move the data to be processe

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread McKown, John
I tend to use NFS. The z/Linux system can NFS export a subdirectory. z/OS can then import that subdirectory, with or without automatic code point translation. The z/OS job then simply uses a DD with the appropriate PATH= to write to the z/Linux system. With "icrond" on z/Linux, the user can aut

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
Gerard, I think the issue here is understanding what was required , now that we have seen a spec it helps. Btw, most folks on here are systems programmers and developers. Some of of us have done hit all, I.e.; sysprogs,network eng, developer and consulted. Answer me a quick question, why are t

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Gerard Nicol wrote: >Thanks for your reply. It is a pleasure! I try to be helpful. >Firstly, I never said that there was a SOCKET keyword in JCL, but perhaps >there should be. The founding fathers of MVS obviously thought at one time >that it would be nice to be able to write to another proces

Re: cpu / machine identification

2012-01-03 Thread Scott Ford
Brian, I am used to that type of support structure. I have noticed a more of a reliance on the vendor for a lot more than the actual product the support. Regards, Scott Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2012, at 1:11 AM, Brian Westerman wrote: > I agree, > > We make sure that when we say we ar

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread Gerard Nicol
Elardus, Thanks for your reply. I'm not exactly sure why people always presume that someone asking a question they don't understand is some sort of moron, but working on the assumption of good faith let me further explain myself. Firstly, I never said that there was a SOCKET keyword in JCL, but p

Re: IBM manual formats

2012-01-03 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 09:48:59 -0600, John McKown wrote: >I like having IBM manuals be readable in electronic form. Personally, I >prefer using the Web and BookManager format over PDF. Hear, hear! Please give us back Bookmanager for ALL manuals, IBM. >But I cannot >easily download those and view

Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2012-01-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:43:02 +0530, jagadishan perumal wrote: > >Apology for not being precise. > > >. As per Mark advise I did >TSO RMFMON and Found some SYS1.HASCKPT datasets used by JES2, some User Job >using their Assigned volumes. > (sorry). That will do it! No "operational" data sets

strcoll(), sort(1), LC_COLLATE (and perhaps DFSORT)

2012-01-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
The recent "mixed case" thread on ASSEMBLER list piqued my curiosity, and I asked some questions about UNIX commands on MVS-OE. But I think this is as general as IBM-MAIN. I can't seem to get the En_US collating sequence to work as I believe it should. The problem may arise from a failure of the

Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2012-01-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
> > Hi Lizette, > > Apology for not being precise. > > Datasets found in SYSRES are : > > are some BCP related datasets , assembler datasets,language environment > datasets,IBM book manager datasets First failure Support technology(FFST) datasets > are found. > > During This Situation when I d

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gerard Nicol > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:35 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support > > Hi, > > I am looking for the most elegant w

Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2012-01-03 Thread Joel C. Ewing
I believe JES2 uses physical reserves on entire volume when accessing HASPCKPT datasets and depending on your JES PARMLIB member may hold it for a significant time -- not a good dataset type to put on a SYSRES shared with other systems. Others may be able to suggest JES PARMLIB changes to sho

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