Re: cost of a CPU side-grade

2006-05-24 Thread Matthew Stitt
ZAAPs are available on z890s and up. On Wed, 24 May 2006 16:48:29 -0500, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ruegsegger, Jeff John, My understanding is ZAAP's are only available on Z9's Isn't that restriction only

Re: Sysplex TSO logon behaviour

2006-05-23 Thread Matthew Stitt
I ignored this yesteday thinking someone would catch this. Since you are in a Sysplex, you do not need to IPL to change the GRS RNLs. As long as all systems are communicating using XCF, or GRS is in a STAR configuration, you can just change the RNL member, then issue a SET GRSRNL=xx command.

Re: DFSORT: SMF16 (jobs ok, stcs nok)

2006-05-23 Thread Matthew Stitt
This thread has me doing some RTFM as I am interested in this area also. Did you change all the ICEAMx installation default modules? The manual shows there are 8 of them. On Tue, 23 May 2006 03:56:56 -0500, Christian Blesa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Dave, thanks for your quickly reponse!

Re: JES2 LISTSERV

2006-05-23 Thread Matthew Stitt
This is probably the best one you can find. On Tue, 23 May 2006 11:28:03 -0700, Smith, Sean M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help. I am looking for the JES2 Listserv but am having some problems. I found one at [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it appears to be all spam. The other I found was at [EMAIL

Re: PTF 24187 IS NOW AVAILABLE -PE- - -

2006-05-23 Thread Matthew Stitt
Most probably, on both cases. You could check the PTF and then look up the APAR which is written against it. Then make a decision as to whether it will affect you or not. On Tue, 23 May 2006 15:08:32 -0700, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PTF 24187 IS NOW AVAILABLE -PE- - - Does

Re: Z/OS UNIX NFS SERVER

2006-05-22 Thread Matthew Stitt
I would start by reading the FM. It states the starter/skeleton versions can be found in SYS1.SAMPLIB, starting with GFS. If he does that, he should stop asking questions for a few hours. g On Mon, 22 May 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do anybody experience with

Re: Printing from a VTAM application to a TCP/IP printer

2006-05-15 Thread Matthew Stitt
Have you taken a look at InfoPrint Server? It has two components which can make your life much easier. Using Netspool and IP/Printway you can capture your VTAM based printout and direct it to a printer with an IP address. You might not even need to make changes to the application if you re-use

Re: Printing from a VTAM application to a TCP/IP printer

2006-05-15 Thread Matthew Stitt
Have you taken a look at InfoPrint Server? They have two components which will make your life easier. With this you could send the stuff directly to a printer which has an IP address. And your application would require no changes, especially if you re-use the VTAM LU name for the printer. On

Re: VSAM Extent Consolidation

2006-05-12 Thread Matthew Stitt
I just want to thank everyone for this discussion, especially Mark Thomen. I have noticed some strange allocations with DB2 datasets, and now understand what is happening. It is a little unnerving to look at an IDCAMS LISTCAT and see mutliple extents, with each one a different size. Especially

Re: Console address.

2006-05-12 Thread Matthew Stitt
For questions like this, the MVS INITIALIZATION AND TUNING REFERENCE is an excellent source. Tells you everything you (don't) want to know about what should be in the PARMLIB concatenation, and pointed to by the IEASYSxx member. On Fri, 12 May 2006 16:42:42 -0400, Alvaro Quintupray [EMAIL

Re: Dataset Contention

2006-05-01 Thread Matthew Stitt
Acutally, if the jobs are running consecutively, at pretty much the same time, PAV will not be that great a help. The PAV is designed for multiple accesses on different extents. Since all the jobs will be acessing the same extent range, only one UCB will probably be used. I like the idea of

Re: Getting a list of datasets off a volume without needing a DDNAME for each volume

2006-04-11 Thread Matthew Stitt
The DADSM program in file 527 on the CBT tape can do what you want. By default it scans all online volumes on your system and produces three reports. On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:41:05 -0700, Ulrich Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kriss, take a look at IDCAMS DCOLLECT. It'll do what you're asking

Re: Shark - 2105 Question

2006-04-06 Thread Matthew Stitt
The DADSM program on CBT file 527 will give you a list of all volumes and the number of cylinders capacity, allocated, and free. There is no way to tell the volume size through HCD. And the DS command is a best estimate. Even -27s report at -9s. On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:36:59 -0500, Hal Merritt

Re: remote console

2006-03-22 Thread Matthew Stitt
Do you have TCPIP TN3270E to the system? I would use the SNA MCS consoles option. Requires a little setup in your CONSOLxx member, and some VTAM definitions, but works like a champ. On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:10:13 -0600, Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I still have channel attached local 3174s. I

Re: SSL Certificate Signing

2006-03-21 Thread Matthew Stitt
BTDT. You're problem is the certificate was generated on a M$ platform. I've had exactly your problem in the past. The certificate does not meet the official standard formats that RACF is programmed against. M$ doesn't follow the official standards. I actually sent my certificate to IBM, and

Re: Max # of SYS1.MAN datasets

2006-03-01 Thread Matthew Stitt
I've had as many as 18 datasets so far. The names are not critical, just how they are listed in the SMFPRMxx member. I list them as one dataset name per line. I'm sure many have far more than my maximum. On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 17:13:43 +0200, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 1 Mar

Re: SMPE Question

2006-03-01 Thread Matthew Stitt
You can look APARs up by using a substitution letter for the first character. Try using A first, as in AA10234. If you have the APAR on, it should show as SUP'd, with a pointer to the PTF. I asked IBM for over 20 years, then found the answer in an old IBM-MAIN posting. On Wed, 1 Mar 2006

Re: PROTECTION EXCEPTION 0C4 - Job Doesn't Work When Dataset Used

2006-02-24 Thread Matthew Stitt
Here is my theory: Use DISP=(NEW,PASS) Also this looks very much like a program which may write data to a file, close the file, and then read the data back in. On a temporary dataset, it my be getting deleted after the close. Are the temporary datasets being directed to disk or VIO? On Thu,

Re: Removing obsolete catalog references from VVDS

2006-02-10 Thread Matthew Stitt
I've tried to do that function. After a conversation with IBM support, we basically agreed to forget that problem exists. There is no way to remove a catalog name entry from the VVDS. Unless you want to try changing the records yourself (VERY not recommended). Doing a Delete Noscratch against

Re: File encryption

2006-02-09 Thread Matthew Stitt
I've already place a basic module on the CBT tape. File 529. It uses AES and the ICSF subroutines. I never tried it without Crypto hardware, but maybe it would work, since AES keys are processed as clear keys. This changes with the Z9 machine. On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 09:34:39 -0500, Mark Jacobs

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Matthew Stitt
I'm going to assume that he needs the MVS Mount command. It is a console command that usually is coded like this: M {[/]devnum },VOL=({NL},serial)[,USE={STORAGE}] {devicetype } {SL} {PUBLIC } {AL} {PRIVATE} From the System Commands

Re: Test, pls ignore

2006-01-26 Thread Matthew Stitt
M$ Exchange server has been known to do this. I wouldn't doubt a few other mail server systems work the same way. Worked(?) with our company's e-mail admin, and was never able to get them to recognize it was a problem, let alone this anomaly did exist. Every once in a while a message would slip

Re: JES2 job execution routing

2006-01-26 Thread Matthew Stitt
How about WLM Resources and Scheduling Environments? You could define a default scheduling environment to all the job classes through the SDSF JC screen. Then define a resource connected to the scheduling environment that is on for the little MVS, and off for the big MVS. Have another

Re: Batch job to spin through SMF

2006-01-24 Thread Matthew Stitt
File 529 on the CBT tape might have something that could help you. You will also need file 527 for a module or two. There are quite a few other programs on the CBT tape which could work for you. DAF is another one, and it is on file 94. However, if the program is a called module, I don't think

Re: Displaying HOLDDATA on an already received tape

2006-01-24 Thread Matthew Stitt
You are looking at a list which states that SYSMOD HCI6400) has APAR PK03409 open against it. The PTF which resolves this APAR is UK04749. On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:22:49 -0600, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of

Re: Support of zOS

2006-01-20 Thread Matthew Stitt
I've always done a cold install, for the same issues you've run into. Just build a new master catalog, then switch when you bring the new level up. The real problem with this approach is getting the new catalog in sync with the old catalog. On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:37:36 -0600, Rugen, Len [EMAIL

Re: ADR793E - VTOC and VVDS do not match?

2006-01-18 Thread Matthew Stitt
I believe he has managed to place a non-SMS dataset on an SMS managed volume. I wonder if the ADRDSSU CONVERTV command would fix him up. Since it is a SMP/E SMPLTS file, he would be safe in deleting it and allocate a new one. On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:19:27 -0800, Ulrich Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Validating SMP/E maintenance levels

2006-01-06 Thread Matthew Stitt
This is where I use system symbolics. I load the master catalog with SYSR1 for the primary IPL volume (except for sys1.parmlib if it is on there) and use SYSR2, etc for the subsequent volumes. I then set the symbolics in the IEASYMxx member (except for SYSR1) and IPL. Works great except for

Re: Copy Extended-format VSAM Sphere

2006-01-04 Thread Matthew Stitt
I found that if I code the SMS ACS routines to intercept the file and do the redirection, that will overcome your hurdle. Also have you tried the OUTDD or OUTDYNAM parameters? On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:26:10 -0600, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, All, We have need to copy an

Re: SMS Newbie

2006-01-04 Thread Matthew Stitt
Try the D SMS console command. On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 13:28:45 -0800, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I find the ACDS which is currently being used by the system. z/OS 1.4 and then to the ISMF panel for adding volumes to a storage group. Thanks.

Re: VSAMPGM CBT469.FILE511

2005-12-16 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:17:54 -0200, Jorge Arueira Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I execute the program of CBTAPE VSAMPGM and i received the return code below: Can anybody help me ? Thanks Jorge Arueira Campos Support Z/os 55-11-3685-6991 CAIXA ECONOMICA FEDERAL São Paulo - Brazil

Re: Mainframe to Mainframe FTP

2005-12-07 Thread Matthew Stitt
I do this all the time. Use TYPE E, MODE B options. Also let the system automatically send the file characteristics and allocated it dynamically. I assume you are going MVS to MVS? On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 21:17:56 +0100, Frank Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cause it is variable you can never

Re: Quick HMC console question

2005-11-11 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:00:30 -0600, Brian Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The below is an excellent suggestion and may well be sufficient for your needs. However, remember that the complete NIP syslog is available if you take a stand alone dump of your failing system. Since JES2 hasn't

Re: IBMLINK et al.

2005-11-08 Thread Matthew Stitt
Do you have an IBM ID? One of those that uses your e-mail address. If so, then try this link: http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/support/zseries/zos/downloading.html -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent:

Re: Catalog for Serverpac datasets

2005-11-03 Thread Matthew Stitt
I go both ways. My general rule of thumb is that if it resides on the target or dlib volumes they go in the master catalog. The HFS volume has everything in its own user catalog. So does SMPE stuff. The rest of the files, like JESx, FFST, MSYS, etc, go on another volume that I regard as a

Re: DFSMSdfp / RACF / Storage Administration question.

2005-11-02 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 15:32:53 -0500, Walt Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/2/2005 2:43 PM, McKown, John wrote: In any case, we just came up on a gotcha. On occasion, a file will be defined with insufficient CANDIDATE volumes. The file fills up and cannot extend to do the lack of

Re: Serverpac Installation guide

2005-11-01 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:22:40 EST, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/1/2005 12:02:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HP printers attached via VPS and I don't know script at all, can someone direct to me to a manual or instructions on how to print it?

Re: Gartner: Stop Outsourcing Now

2005-10-31 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:01:42 -0700, Leonard Woren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 09:20:23AM -0400, Froberg, David C ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Gartner's chief of research for outsourcing says companies have become compulsive about outsourcing... A new illness: Compulsive

Re: New naming Standard

2005-10-31 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 04:16:19 -0600, Mike Liberatore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need to implement a new naming standard. What would be the best way to rename my SMPE ZONES? Thanks in advance! You just want to change the dataset names? Through the SMPE dialogs, go into the administration section,

Re: SMP/E: Deleting SMPPTS entries

2005-10-28 Thread Matthew Stitt
You could delete the fmid from the global zone through the dialogs. Then run an SMPE REJECT NOFMID and see what that gets you. On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:25:43 -0600, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Way back in: Linkname: Re: SMPE Problem URL:

Re: DFSORT problem when generating RMM reports

2005-10-26 Thread Matthew Stitt
Mike, Try putting a set of parens after the third AND. Close them at the end of the last OR. I think you wanted anything with the selected values in 156,8 in addition to the preceding conditions. On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:39:55 -0500, Mike Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank, The INCLUDE

Re: Time Change Problem

2005-10-18 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:02:55 -0500, Robert Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI Guys.. Here to hoping someone can help me out. This has been discussed before, but somewhere along the line I seem to be missing something. I have the following clock member in parmlib OPERATOR NOPROMPT TIMEZONE

Re: SMS and sysplex

2005-10-12 Thread Matthew Stitt
BTDT. When you switch from Monoplex to Multiplex, you need to add the system names and/or the sysplex name to the CDS and activate the changes BEFORE you bring the second and succeeding systems up. If you do not do this, the only way to get the new systems recognize is to allocate a new

Re: SMS add volume to storage group

2005-09-22 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:43:33 -0500, Mike Liberatore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our storage administrator is out sick and I got the job of adding new volumes to our active SMS environment. I guess someone knew that had some SMS expierence in the past. Anyway we share SMS across three LPARS ,I know

Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-22 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:24:17 -0400, Clark, Kevin D, HRC-Alexandria/EDS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct I meant Z/VM. But you point on cost is good. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, September 22,

Re: SMP/E SMPPTS

2005-09-14 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:49:19 -0700, Richard V. Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chip Grantham Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMP/E Receive Space

Re: Creating IOCDS via HMC

2005-09-08 Thread Matthew Stitt
If you try to run the MVS IOCP program under a VM guest, you get a message saying that's not allowed. BTDT (last week), and of course Mike already found that out. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: SMF reg 110 - Help

2005-08-31 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:22:21 -0300, Eduardo Toledo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, In our shop, we are running CICS TS 2.2, on a z/OS 1.4. Our monitor ( the Mainview) tell us that we run something around of 200MM transactions a day in average. How can I collect (using th MCT concepts),

Re: Deleted VVDS

2005-08-30 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 07:07:38 -0500, Natasa Savinc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We IPLed one of the two systems in parallel sysplex, and encountered problem with accessing certain catalog. We found out that VVDS from the catalog volume is missing. Other system in sysplex (the one that wasn't

Re: JES2 Checkpoint dataset help

2005-08-30 Thread Matthew Stitt
Yeah, a cold start is your only recourse, UNLESS you got lucky enough to place the new one on the EXACT same extents as the old one. I just did the same stupid stunt last week. To both checkpoints. Fortunately the systems I have here are not using Shared JES2 MAS.

Re: ISPF option 3.4 CATALOG multilevel alias

2005-08-25 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:21:14 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Conley Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF option 3.4

Re: SMF Under Zos 1.4

2005-08-24 Thread Matthew Stitt
I've had a lot of fun with the WTO macro acros the OS/390 - Z/OS releases and the SMFDUMP program. I've got a (slightly) modified copy that works under Z/OS 1.6 if anyone is interested. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

New ZOS redbook

2005-08-23 Thread Matthew Stitt
It's officially two days away from publication, but I found it. z/OS Diagnostic Data Collection and Analysis -- SG24-7110 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: VSAM COURSE

2005-08-11 Thread Matthew Stitt
I would start with the Redbook VSAM Demystified, SG24-6105 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

You might be a mainframer if... :-) V3.8

2005-08-09 Thread Matthew Stitt
When someone mentions green card, you don't think of immigration You understand the significance of version 3.8 You think of DASD not DISK You know what a disk pack is When someone mentions RENT you don't think of housing expense You know that WAD has nothing to do with gum You think that fixed

Re: NVSAM catalog entry deleted

2005-07-29 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:09:49 +0100, Walter Marguccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, thanks very much and sorry for having missed that. It's really Friday. Walter Marguccio --- Matthew Stitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:48:07 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: SMPE 3.4

2005-07-28 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:36:05 -0700, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Stitt wrote: With all the discussion about the Z9, I'm surprised no one has yet looked at the new SMPE release. Ummm. Or how about the z/OS announcement?! http://www.ibm.com/isource/cgi-bin/goto

Re: Defining DASD to OS390 V2R10 System

2005-07-28 Thread Matthew Stitt
If you use HCD,I would 1 Select the processor, 2 Select one of the CHPIDs that your disk is connected to, 3 Select one of the control units your disk is connected to, 4 then use PF11 to add more devices. The starting address is 1 up from the last one, for however many you are adding in. On Thu,

SMPE 3.4

2005-07-27 Thread Matthew Stitt
With all the discussion about the Z9, I'm surprised no one has yet looked at the new SMPE release. Says you can probably replace ShopZ and SUF with it. Also you don't need ICSF for hashing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

New book in the works

2005-07-01 Thread Matthew Stitt
If you go to the Z/OS publications pages, there is a recent pointer to a new book in the works: Introduction to the New Mainframe: Z/OS Basics == SG24-6366 It's still in Draft mode, with a date of May 27, 2005 (so far). http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/zoslib/pdf/zosbasic.pdf

Re: SMPE Help.

2005-06-30 Thread Matthew Stitt
Try this JCL example: //STEP01 EXEC PGM=GIMSMP //SMPCSIDD DSN=SMPE.GLOBAL.CSI,DISP=SHR //SMPPTFIN DD DSN=your seq ptf file,DISP=OLD //SMPHOLD DD DUMMY,BLKSIZE=80 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPOUTDD SYSOUT=* //SMPLIST DD SYSOUT=* //SMPCNTL DD * SET BDY(GLOBAL).

HFS dismount

2005-06-27 Thread Matthew Stitt
We recently converted to SYSPLEX OMVS configuration. We have a situation where the HFS's for another system are being dismounted when we shut one system down. The command sequence is 1. F BPXOINIT,SHUTDOWN=FORKINIT 2. F BPXOINIT,SHUTDOWN=FORKS The HFS's being unmounted are marked as

Re: Downgrade 9672

2005-06-23 Thread Matthew Stitt
Back to the original subject. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=11215item=5783038982rd=1ssPageName=WDVW They'll even ship UPS or FEDEX g -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: SA PB in CICC App ...

2005-06-21 Thread Matthew Stitt
Most likely the messages you are triggering on don't exist anymore. I believe TCPIP has new messages indicating successful startup. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: LOGR for Dummies?

2005-06-21 Thread Matthew Stitt
Your original message implied that you have LOGGER up and running, especially for CICS, already. I would like to see if your JCL that is being used is specifying the DELETE parameter in the unload step. That could be troublesome in your circumstance. If it's not there, then re-run the unload

Re: poor signal-to-noise ratio

2005-06-09 Thread Matthew Stitt
Yes, but we've all forgotten the main way to kill a thread. Nobody mentioned Adolph Hitler yet. g http://www.science.uva.nl/~mes/jargon/g/godwinslaw.html from: http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0301L=ibm-mainD=0I=1X=2E6F8324BB6F6604CAY=mstitt%40mindspring.comP=96069

Re: VTAM newsgroup

2005-06-02 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:34:41 -0700, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick O'Keefe wrote: Is there a newsgroup dedicated to just VTAM Q and A's? ... 2 of them, both at news.software.ibm.com ibm.networking.vtam ibm.software.commserver.os390.sna Both are pretty inactive except

Re: Mainframe STAR TREK games?

2005-05-18 Thread Matthew Stitt
Ahhh... But whatever happened to the one I wrote at (what was then) Del Mar college in Corpus Christi, Texas in CourseWriter back in 1976-1977. Last I knew (1981) it still ran there, and was limited to one player at a time. g 10 X 10 Galaxy, 10 X 10 Quadrants, Starbases to dock for

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