Leave the "(R)" off the NAME statement and the original LMOD will remain
untouched. A condition code will also be set but I don't recall the
exact message that generates it.
Rick
Supra Uche wrote:
Hi List,
I have a quest
I haven't seen a bona-fide tape I/O error since my shop installed 3480
drives, lo these many years ago. What's this guy smoking? Whatever it
is, I'm sure it's illegal! :-)
Rick
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Pinnacle wrote:
Anybody read the Mainframe Ex
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I am using CSI (catalog search interface) to obtain some catalog
information for a data set. For some data sets IGGCSI00 returns with RC4
and reason code 108 and also message IEF705I is issued.
Description of IDC3009I
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Hello everybody: I would like to request people's opinions on taking the
trouble of preprocessing ISPF panels. We have been preprocessing ISPF and SDSF
panels for a long time now (at least the portion of those that
Not so much high-horsepower engines, but rather high-compression
engines. Makes a HUGE difference in aircraft reciprocating engines.
Higher compression leads to higher heat buildup in the cylinder and that
can lead to pre-ignition, with seriously detrimental effect on the
engine and the power c
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"Give a man a fish, and he will eat today. Teach a man how to fish, and
he will feed himself."
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"Give a man a fish and he will eat today. Teach a man how to fish and
Do you mean that you have been successful at keeping yourself fully
occupied with plenty of work from clients eager to engage your services,
or that you have been successful at putting yourself out of a job just
as quickly as possible
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Given the axioms of the discussion, it would be an entire book. The
contention was that IBM shipping capacity that isn't used "doesn't make
sense".
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But it makes excell
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Hershey bars cost a nickel")
I'm dating myself, but I can remember buying Hershey bars at two for a
nickel.
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Steve,
Why not just allocate a bigger VTOC. The argument is that the regular
shuffling of thousands of CYls into contiguous extents to save one or two
cyls on a VTOC is valuable exercise.
I don't see it. I would give the Storage Admin h
AFAIK, you are limited to 16 extents on a volume (NON-VSAM, PDS, DAM,
etc.). If you are allowed (or can) do multi-volume, then yes, you get 16
[max] per volume for 59 volumes.
Reclaiming space in the VTOC: If I can get al
Too true. Too bad we can't do to our users what a DI can do to their
recruits to get them to "shape up". (drop and give me 50, you button
clicking idiot!!)
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Did the people understand the postings as written? That is the acid test.
Legal papers get edited and checked and re-checked - which doesn't mean
they are unambiguously clear.
Time to fire some grade school teachers and get the rest back to
teaching some basic skills. I've seen similar scenarios when
interviewing applicants. Including one that I actually had to read the
applications to him. (Company policy was that everyone had to submit an
application, even if the i
Too bad there's no vaccie for "Stupid Syndrome". :-__
Bill Fairchild wrote:
Fast food restaurant chains have a lot of experience with successfully dumbing
down the keyboard of their cash registers. You might try contacting the chief
architect of cash register design for McDonald's:
http://www
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FORTRAN H and FORTH are two very different languages. I don't know if
there was ever a FORTH implementation for OS/360.
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I was completely unaware of a F
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We used WYLBUR (I THINK OBS version) at Westinghouse Lamp Divisions on a
360/65. I had been given to understand that ORVYL (sp.?) was the TP
monitor portion of WYLBUR.
Nev
LISP could cause permanent brain damage!
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LISP = LOTS of INSERTED STUPID PARENTHESES. :-)
Rick
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If you've ever done list processing, CONTROLLED storage is the cat's
meow. Beats the Dickens out of trying to maintain arrays and array
counters, especially if there's a chance of exceeding the size of the
arrays. ...
How is CONTROLLED
Prior to MFT II and HASP II, HASP also automated the control of
partitions in MFT, but I'm not going to ask you to believe just how bad
the facilities were; suffice it to say that the original MFT without
HASP or ASP was a nightma
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The phrase "WYLBUR/TSO" confirms my suspicion that someone was very
confused; the two are very different animals.
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That's true but I've actually seen at least one shop that converted
suspect he may have meant ORVYL, the interactive exuction companion to
WYLBUR. We never ran it, so I don't know much about it.
Did anyone use it other than Stanford?
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We used it at AMA
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OK, I'll bite. What is/was the intended purpose of controlled storage? I
remember when I first was learning PL/1 (too many moons ago to count)
being fascinated by it, but at that time I couldn't really see what the
advantag
Yeah, give me my deserved grief for dropping the "I" in "IBM" from the
subject. Some day I'll learn how to cut & paste...
Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
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One place that MAY use it would JES2 for the SPOOL datasets. Since all
spool datasets have the same name, if JES2 had the ENQ on the dataset
name, you would be unable to delete or create additional SPOOL datasets
while JES2
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You are aware, of course, that an authorized program can access the
dataset without even going thru OPEN and without a single DD statement?
Quite true, IF
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I meant to add that with the exception of SYS1, a VSAM dataset can only
exist in 1 catalog at a time.
I must have missed this one too, when did IBM remove PAGE HLQ from this
list?
I thought that the original OP wanted to keep
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At first this sounds easy but let me explain:
I am working on putting up a COD..not the fish as we are coming from an
unsupported z/os .
I'd like to use my current IODF (or even the previous one) but herein lies
the problem.
I DON'T want
zMan wrote:
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
Gabrial:
I used to have a copy of Adventure that worked fine under MVS (albeit 30
years ago). Its been ages since I have thought about it. A fellow sysprog
did the fortran conversion and we actually (at one time) had a map to the
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From IBMLink
ASCBSWTL (ASCB+x'C4') = Step Wait Time Limit
1 word in timer units. (JWT value, if applicable;
i.e., if *not* TIME=1440).
From the doc on the STIMER macro:
For TUINTVL,
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I like it! And I remember a site that had a swimming pool into which the
heat was dumped (either that, or it was the backup cooling in case of
chiller failure -- they'd drain the pool through the CPUs while they did
an orderly
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The system structures designed into S/360 that turned into bottlenecks sooner than most others
did were built around the cKd architecture, in which the K is uppercased because it means KEY
(where "KEY rhymes with "bad, bad, bad").
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By 'killer apps' you mean good ones to COMP for, right?
Would you COMP regardless of size, if short on CPU already, with lots of
DASD?
(even for less than 50 cyls)
If size matters, what should the MIN size be?
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I have been given the task of designing a way to prevent batch jobs
fromfilling up our spool packs. The main culprits are traces with large
input files that result in 10's of millions of lines of trace data on
the spool vo
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I may be advertising my age, but would a BXLE or BXH be the most efficient?
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If you're guaranteed a hit, BRANCH RELATIVE ON COUNT would be the
fastes
Perhaps someone could summarise cogently what was wrong with water
cooling the first time around (which, yes, I was there to witness). :-)
I surmise it wasn't the water cooling so much as the space and the
energy consumpt
Consider: 1000's of 3490 carts of archived data that won't completely
cycle out for another 5 to 10 years. Although we tend to revisit the
issue every year, so far we still judge it cheaper to maintain (by non
IBM) a f
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True confession time: I've never used DEVTYPE. Questions:
1. Is it "low overhead"? How would you guess it compares to searching the
TIOT and issuing a SWAREQ? I'm not concerned about one or two instructions
here, but
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Here is a funny one for you. We were doing house cleaning and found the 3705
assembler modules in linklib.
We were just going to delete them but we thought we should go through change
control to CYA.
AFter the weeke
John Ehrman of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List
wrote on 02/10/2010 01:46:57 PM:
PDSEs have been available for a long time, and provide many
advantages over PDSs. Why are people reluctant to use PDSEs?
I think of a fe
Out of curiosity (and lack of knowledge in this area), is there any
benefit to having DAF if I am already a Vanguard customer?
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Yes. The DAF rep
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I'd also be interested in any comments, as we're looking to do exactly
the same thing.
We're also considering replacing: -
Abend/AID & Abend/AID CICS with Fault analyser
Xpediter TSO & Xpediter CICS with Debug tool
Strobe &
That is never discussed around here. Management just pops in and out of
existance around here like virtual quantum particles. They come in, mess
up everything that has been working, then go away to "work their magic"
a
Tom Marchant wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:54:44 -0600, McKown, John wrote:
Of course, I always zero 8(,13) just before I RETURN (in HLASM).
Of course? Why?
So you know where the chain ends in a dump.
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For IB
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It is still used by PL/I, which is alive and well, to accomplish
bidirectional save-area chaining.
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Guess again. Bidirectional chaining s accompplished using the seco
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Could someone please enlighten me as to what the purpose is/was of the
first word of a save area?
Usually when I'm going through a dump it's not important, but I have
seen LE put some control information in there. I've also he
R.S. wrote:
Mark Zelden pisze:
[...]
I don't have a stake either way, but if I were rooting for Neon and they
won this battle, IBM would still be free to change the licensing
rules or
not charge less for special engines, or they could just change the code
and break zPrime for Neon. So the
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Doesn't FREEPOOL test whether there is a buffer pool before trying to
free it?
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That's a fairly recent refinement to the FREEPOOL macro. For many years
there was no such c
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Rick,
Have you tried opening a PMR with IPCS support?
How exactly are you trying to start it? From the i...@390u panel
or home grown option?
Btw, that panel selection option uses
CMD(BLSCLIBD) NEWAPPL(BLSG) PASSLIB SCR
Still having problems. Under ISPF, I can't get IPCS to start. The dump
directory is allocated properly but I still get the same start-up error:
IKJURPS RC=20,ERROR=23
I re-iterate: IPCS docs and MSGS & CODES are useless; no information is
available.
There doesn't seem to be anything about IK
TSO/E TMP cannot process an IKJURPS request.
For example, during LOGON processing."
Are you by any chance trying to start IPCS in your logon exec, before
the first READY prompt has been issued?
On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:19:36 -0600 Rick Fochtman
wrote:
:>Trying to start IPCS for the first
Trying to start IPCS for the first time on this system and getting a
failure in IKJURPS, RC=20, ERROR=23
Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? MSGS & CODES dscreiption is
completely useless, as are the IPCS pubs I have.
TIA
Rick
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I remember much of it vividly, since Nixon was the president when I got
drafted into the Army.
On January 22, 1973, he went on nation-wide TV and announced that there
would be no more draft into the Armed Forces of the United States. That
was also the day I got my promotion to Sergeant First C
Ron Hawkins wrote:
Ed,
Let me go fetch a grain of salt.
And you want me to believe that in 1970 there was OS/360 running with ESCON
connected to 3330 DASD drives deep under the White House.
And that IBM lab was the one with the Electron Microscope.
I'm sort of amazed that in 1974 IBM could r
Can we have richard...@yahoo.com removed from the list. We don't need the
Viagra commercials on this list.
Careful, he may be a legit member whose machine has been compromised,
or just whose address was faked. Faking an email address i
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I don't know about that program, but this REXX program doesn't work
with PDSE (013-EC abend):
ARG dsn
"ALLOC F(PDSDIR) DA("dsn") SHR REUSE RECFM(F)", /* pds directory
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Then I came up with a little QSAM program that set the entire directory
to zeros and placed the x'' in the key and first member name of
the first block.
Then IBM invented PDSE and spoiled all your fun.
Does this techn
Some folks have asked about how to delete all members from a PDS without
deleting the PDS. I just stumbled across this while doing a receive from
ServerPac CPP.
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Some folks have asked about how to delete all members from a PDS without
deleting the PDS. I just stumbled across this while doing a receive from
ServerPac CPP.
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I have an old assembler program which we call numerous times from a rexx
script. There seems to be an issue introduced with our z/OS 1.10 upgrade
which did not previously exist... the memory usage builds up and
eventually abend
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Thanks everyone. I have the MVT source code. Rick's site is down, but
another site had a copy.
I was looking for the 1st OS, which I think is PCP. Is that correct?
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Fi
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In the old days, books were printed on paper and usually placed into a
three-ring binder. When they got too big, the authors split them into
multiple volumes.
--
W
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>> COBOL is the Language of the Future! <<
PL/1 is the UNCOBOL :-)
Rick
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I disagree. The basic operation of a credit card at the get go was for
the customer to be authenticated by comparing the signature on the
voucher with the one on the card. If they don't match the vendor refuses
the transaction. T
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Rick Fochtman pisze:
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BTW: I would like IBM to document those undocumented options. It
wouldn't hurt to create an appendix named "Obsolete options" wi
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BTW: I would like IBM to document those undocumented options. It
wouldn't hurt to create an appendix named "Obsolete options" with remark
that all the options are ignored and may stop work (in term of syntax)
in the future. The same
be a pita. I'm trying to solve your problem.
Charles
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
Of Rick Fochtman
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re:
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I can't very well access that file from a DVD or CD-ROM
I don't know what that means. Can you be more specific? You're sitting at a
PC(?) that is connected to the Internet(?). You need data that you can cut
and paste into a _
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
Of Rick Fochtman
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 7:20 PM
Can someone out there point me to what bookshelf contains the PoPs
manual? All I've been able to find is a PDF and I need the instruction
tables from Appendix B in an
Note that both Patton and Montgomery agreed that the best approach was
a spearhead across Europe into Germany. They disagreed on who should
lead it, each wanted to be the sole leader of the action. Eisenhower
overruled both and o
Can someone out there point me to what bookshelf contains the PoPs
manual? All I've been able to find is a PDF and I need the instruction
tables from Appendix B in an editable format.
Thanks, in advance.
Rick
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If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes.
So that's where CMS got that idea. But z/OS device independence is
eroding. Why are there TPUT/TGET/PUTLINE/GETLINE (whatever) rather than
just doing QSAM I/O to SYSTSPRT and SYSTSIN? And I'm dismayed at the
number
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In <632703.89644...@web82206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, on 12/21/2009
at 12:34 PM, Lloyd Fuller said:
It was also a tank before the M1 Abrams.
Yes, but there was an M1 rifle before there was an M1 tank ;-)
I suspect that M1 and M60 are not the only numbe
OK, I'm being Scrooge. But we have a person here who loves to use the
JES2 SPOOL as a report repository. Most likely due to it being "easy"
and not needing to bother with estimating his dataset size requirements.
So, what woul
Don't you mean "CA Aggravator" ??? :-)
Rick
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Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:18:51 -0800, Schwarz, Barry A wrote:
It was called CA-Activator.
By whom?
-- gil
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John, M60 is also a 60-ton tank, now considered obsolete. Mounted a
105mm Main Gun.
Rick
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Chase, John wrote:
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Finnell
In a message dated 12/21/2009 9:28:2
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IIRC, the DAT box was optional on the 370/145 and became standard on the
370/148.
No; the "upgrade" on the 370/145 was a new floppy disk.
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Isn't that also an upgrade???
Which was why in the day I remember sorting input batch files in reverse
(descending) key sequence so that the ISAM I/O would find the "next"
insertion point without traversing the entire overflow chain. Ideally,
if the "next" poi
Mike Myers wrote:
Rick:
Yes, I had forgotten about SIO/HIO/TIO and was reminded of those by
your first post. I can't recall if I ever personally wrote a SIO
instruction. Most of the channel programming I ever did was at the
EXCP level, so i don't recall writing a SSCH instruction either.
A
The 360 instruction set is wholly contained in the z/Series instruction
set and many system constructs were extended in such a way as to make
them backward compatible.
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Not stri
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I'm writing a procedure to convert CA-MIM to GRS. Are there any tools to
work with? I found some old hits on this but I was hoping to hear
something newer.
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I've often heard that programs that ran on the IBM 360 will still run on
a z/10. Is this true? Some? Most? All?
Has to be at least one (IEFBR14). (-:
I've never found a pr
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And MOBIDIC (sp?) was earlier than that.
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Are you sure that MOBIDIC isn't a social disease ??? :-)
Rick
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But there were strong indications that the 370/145 had paging. The
implementation of the DOS Emulator Feature only made sense if the
hardware was designed for paging.
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IIRC, the DAT box
Donnelly, John P wrote:
We cannot see what happened here. Our VATLST entry reads, in part:
EDIT SYS1.PARMLIB(VATLST11) - 01.05 Columns 1 00072
Command ===> Scroll ===> CSR
** * Top of Da
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How big were those, compared to an iPod?
Probably like battleship::kayak.
Physical size. How about capacity?
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How about CRAY-1 vs. Slide Rule? :-)
Rick
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I would prefer "supplementing" sturdy seat belts with dangerous air
bags.
I take it that you don't have children?
None that I'll admit to. :-) Lifelong bachelor,
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Are they? They're not designed to the same engineering standards, and in
some cases safety has been compromised in the name of convenience, e.g.,
replacing sturdy seat belts with dangerous air bags.
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I wouldn't mind looking back at the "good old days", but only for
hysterical purposes. SIO/TIO/HIO are NOT areas I would care to revisit
for any productive purpose. :-)
That was the progressive new era; the "good old day
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It can always be worse. I once saw a vendor's SE give a 10- or 20-page
printout to a colleague of mine, who then sat at a keypunch for several hours
punching cards to match the VERIFY and ZAP hex data for the dozens of PTFs
descr
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While this discussion has evolved into a discourse on HLLs and library
support, I would like to make an observation.
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, Accenture was Arthur Anderson
Consulting. My company contracted with them
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P.S. Anybody doing any linked-list processing in 64-bit space? Having
trouble comparing link keys to find insertion points.
What kind of problems?
Can't seem to
Take a hard look at the ALLOCxx Parmlib member.
Rick
Rick,
Which PARMLIB member has the space allocations?
Roger
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For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive acc
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I mean, how many times on this list do we keep harping on about how
wonderful it was when we had to handcraft our own IO routine
etc etc!!
Who is we? I don't believe that I'm the only one one this list to write
that I would never wan
Gee, I didn't finish High School. Better slit my throat now...
And I dropped out of college, twice, never finished. What's your point?
Sensitive much? Sheesh.
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I gave up a promising
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I just believe that's the way CEOs and CIOs will read it. Most of them really
think that the mainframe, especially using z/OS, is old technology even with
the changes that have been put in place.
I really love this board.
--:
Accenture is saying that now might be the time for banks to replace
their core systems and retool to new technology. They don't actually
say it, but it sounds to me like their saying that big banks should get
off the mainframe. comme
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<><>People don't need college to learn Java. Java's available for
free, it handles the kind of applications an amateur knows & likes to
play with, and it is easy to find help on the Web.
<><>People don't need college to learn brain
Claude, you've got a good idea, but why not specify BLKSIZE=0, for
better space utilization? And that won't really help the converter at all.
Roger, have you considered altering the default space allocation values
in the PARMLIB ??
Rick
Brian, you might explore the free E-Mail account from gmail.com. Might
be well worth your while.
Rick
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Brian Crow wrote:
Thanks, Andrew,
I could just not quite pull the plug, but now I must as the email dies
tomorrow...
I will however be sure t
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