With extreme trepidation as per 1 January 2006:
z890 - around a thousand
z990 - around two and a half thousand, perhaps a few more
z9 - around 200
The surprise for me is how small some of them are.
LOTS of tolerance and potential for errors.
Worth less than you paid for it.
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Hello Charles.
I have little knowledge about how many shops are there in Spain. We belong to
the Spanish Region of GSE Europe, and I'm working closely with its z/OS Work
Group. This WG has about twenty active members, one fourth of them are big
shops (may be over 2K MIPs). I think the othe
On May 3, 2006, at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
My public thanks to a list member who provided some current
numbers privately.
Why, oh why, are these figures so secret?
Showing the current stats can only help in the 'selling' of the
mainframe.
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Ted:
I guess I can understand IBM
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>My public thanks to a list member who provided some current numbers
privately.
Why,
>My public thanks to a list member who provided some current numbers privately.
Why, oh why, are these figures so secret?
Showing the current stats can only help in the 'selling' of the mainframe.
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guess as to current number of z or 390 shops?
I know IBM does not generally publish numbers, but does anyone have a good
working guess they can share with me on the number of organizations
worldwide using Z or 390 boxes? Something to the nearest thousand would be
great.
Alternatively, I could live
Timothy Sipples wrote:
> >Somewhere at home I have an IBM poster that says "VM Soars with 20,000
> >licenses". This was probably some time in the early to mid 1990s, and
> >has doubtless dropped hugely since then.
>
> Why would it drop hugely?
>
> The vast majority of mainframe Linux customers
Shane wrote:
> Be interesting to see what Terry (sp ???) has to say when the
> zSeries propaganda show hits town next week. No doubt the
> z9BC will get a good run.
Terri, I think.
Tony H.
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Timothy Sipples wrote:
Somewhere at home I have an IBM poster that says "VM Soars with 20,000
licenses". This was probably some time in the early to mid 1990s, and has
doubtless dropped hugely since then.
Why would it drop hugely?
Ummm ... maybe because IBM tried to kill it so many ti
I had a lurker on this list call me last week. I won't give his name or
company, but they are planning to get off the z/OS platform by 2008. I know
the Electric Company in Milwaukee is planning to be off the mainframe before
the end of this year. I figure there is probably 10 to 12 mainframe
Mark,
there are shops in CEMA region (where I operate) which are not large at all
(under 1000 MIPS) which has bought new z/VM licenses for Linux.
Marian Gasparovic
IBM Slovakia
On 5/3/06, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
discussed). Only the larger shops seemed to have bought into Linux
On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 09:05 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
> Only the larger shops seemed to have bought into Linux on Z
Interesting ...
I have made the same observation here in Aus (PacBasin, whatever).
Thought things may have been different over there as IBM has been
flogging the "Linux on z" horse
On Wed, 3 May 2006 04:37:03 -0600, Timothy Sipples
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Somewhere at home I have an IBM poster that says "VM Soars with 20,000
>>licenses". This was probably some time in the early to mid 1990s, and has
>>doubtless dropped hugely since then.
>
>Why would it drop hugely?
>
>Somewhere at home I have an IBM poster that says "VM Soars with 20,000
>licenses". This was probably some time in the early to mid 1990s, and has
>doubtless dropped hugely since then.
Why would it drop hugely?
The vast majority of mainframe Linux customers run under z/VM. (It's all
but mandator
Craddock, Chris wrote:
> Every sales and marketing organization of every ISV would
> sell their first born children to get access to that data.
> Nobody outside of IBM has it and as someone else noted, IBM
> is notoriously coy about it.
They have some pretty graphs with cunningly unlabeled axe
Mills
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worldwide
> Well, 5,000 would impressive in that it would be a lot more than some
> people realize. <> I mentioned that a technology VC said to me
> "mainframes? Does anyone still use those? Does anyone still make
them?"
Yeah, there's no shortage of ignorant dolts out there.
> I'm not sure I'd want to kn
10 years ago I bought a P390 and had a license for MVS, OS/390, or whatever
it was called then. I believe that IBM could have counted that one if they
wanted to.
Bill Fairchild
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> I know IBM does not generally publish numbers, but does
> anyone have a good working guess th
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I'm not sure I'd want to know.
If it came down to say every one of the For
Charles Mills wrote:
I know IBM does not generally publish numbers, but does anyone have a good
working guess they can share with me on the number of organizations
worldwide using Z or 390 boxes? Something to the nearest thousand would be
great.
I've heard about 10 000. I don't remember the so
I'm not sure I'd want to know.
If it came down to say every one of the Fortune 5,000 (although some
might have multiple sites) would you really consider it a selling point
that there were only 5,000 shops left (or even 10,000) vs. the
googolplex of wintel/*nix shops?
Now saying that those same
On Tue, 2 May 2006 10:23:52 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>I know IBM does not generally publish numbers, but does anyone have a good
>working guess they can share with me on the number of organizations
>worldwide using Z or 390 boxes? Something to the nearest thousand would be
>great.
>
>It's for
>I know IBM does not generally publish numbers
I've never understood that!
We are trying to convince the world that the mainframe is not dead, and the
main company that requIres it to continue does nothing to help!
Tell us:
How many mainframes are out there!
Tell us how many companies/sites the
I know IBM does not generally publish numbers, but does anyone have a good
working guess they can share with me on the number of organizations
worldwide using Z or 390 boxes? Something to the nearest thousand would be
great.
Alternatively, I could live with the number of organizations in the US o
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