Receiving a fair price on any product requires a *credible* market
alternative in *your* particular situation. Things that bring
credibility to the discussion:
- a project actually underway to switch from one vendor to
another
I would consider it a strategic error to stick with a vendor that has
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Receiving a fair price on any product requires a *credible* market
alternative in *your* particular situation. Things that bring
credibility to the discussion:
- a project actually underway to switch
I was asked to find out whether there exist z/OS based products from IBM
or 3rd parties that provide similar content functionality.
Yes, reasonable priced. Tell us what products do you want to replace.
BTW: From my experience it is often enough to find an alternative
product and tell about it to
On Apr 2, 2006, at 9:50 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
I was asked to find out whether there exist z/OS based products
from IBM
or 3rd parties that provide similar content functionality.
Yes, reasonable priced. Tell us what products do you want to replace.
BTW: From my experience it is often
Arthur Fichtl wrote:
Hi colleagues,
snip
We are in the process of moving the UNIX apps to Linux under VM, where
they can use the other type of processors and save us a lot of software
costs (BMC is killing us, followed by CA.)
snip
I was asked to find out whether there exist z/OS based
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A couple thoughts here, since I think Steve was talking about letting IBM
know of these issues. First a point Barbara made:
We are in the process of moving the UNIX apps to Linux under VM, where
they
can use the other type of processors and save us a lot of software costs
(BMC is killing us,
there is also the folklore of the contractor hired to do the original
tcp/ip implementation in vtam. the initial try had tcp benchmark
w/thruput much higher than lu6.2. it was explained to him that
everybody KNEW that a CORRECT tcp/ip implementation would have thruput
much lower than lu6.2 ... and
Hi colleagues,
snip
We are in the process of moving the UNIX apps to Linux under VM, where
they can use the other type of processors and save us a lot of software
costs (BMC is killing us, followed by CA.)
snip
I was asked to find out whether there exist z/OS based products from IBM
or 3rd
Arthur,
Similar functionality to which products?
Arthur Fichtl wrote:
Hi colleagues,
snip
We are in the process of moving the UNIX apps to Linux under VM, where
they can use the other type of processors and save us a lot of software
costs (BMC is killing us, followed by CA.)
snip
I was
Barbara Nitz wrote:
Steve's post prompts me to relate our MVS Unix/Linux experience - this is in
no way meant to disparage Steve's efforts for courses...
Now, the ability to run UNIX on the mainframe melds a lot of strengths:
flexibility (run classic mainframe apps and UNIX apps on the same
amen to Barbara's comments. glad to see that domino's support and appetite
hasn't changed. i haven't dealt with them for two years but i still can't
even stand the thought of a domino pizza
Jack Kelly
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well with the
traditional ones.
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I would agree with Barbara on this. We run a mix of traditional work along
with a Domino Change Management System with about 400 registered Users and
WAS V4 in lightweight mode with about the same amount. Both applications
can kill performance to our traditional
at this time.
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Patrick,
Help me
i haven't dealt with them for two years but i still can't
even stand the thought of a domino pizza
While the level2 guy in Boston is real nice, he isn't doing the dump
reading, and we had more than one occasion where he was begging the dump
readers to help him. (And he is doing the customer
To further the revitalization of the mainframe
market, I believe we need to make it more interesting
and relevant to work on the mainframe these days
(not necessarily simpler, ('though that can't be bad),
just interesting).
What seems to be most relevant, fun, and interesting
these days is all
Steve's post prompts me to relate our MVS Unix/Linux experience - this is in
no way meant to disparage Steve's efforts for courses...
Now, the ability to run UNIX on the mainframe melds a lot of strengths:
flexibility (run classic mainframe apps and UNIX apps on the same box),
You'd better not.
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