On Sun, 2010-10-24 at 00:05 -0700, Ed Gould wrote:
> John:
> One warning that hit me. We used to do weekly dump & restore of the HSM
> cds's.Make sure you make two copies of the backup tape. Either after dump
> copy to another tape or create 2 copies with the dump.This saved my ass more
> than o
John:
One warning that hit me. We used to do weekly dump & restore of the HSM
cds's.Make sure you make two copies of the backup tape. Either after dump copy
to another tape or create 2 copies with the dump.This saved my ass more than
once. Tape is not even close to being 100 percent dependable.
4:15 PM
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> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] DFDSS VSAM logical restore?
>
> On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 13:55 +0200, Yifat Oren wrote:
> > John,
> >
> > I would have used SORT-COPY (but if it's DFSORT make sure the VSAM BUFND
> > setting is optimal). It s
: [IBM-MAIN] DFDSS VSAM logical restore?
>
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:43:49 -0500, John McKown wrote:
>
> >A dummy question. When I do a VSAM logical dataset restore using DFDSS,
does
> >it do a reorganization of the data? I would think so, but I cannot find
it
> >in
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 13:55 +0200, Yifat Oren wrote:
> John,
>
> I would have used SORT-COPY (but if it's DFSORT make sure the VSAM BUFND
> setting is optimal). It should be faster than IDCAMS (because of the better
> TAPE I/O).
>
> Are you sure you need to reorg at all?
>
> I'm sure you are fa
If the file is defined w/REUSE you do not need to DELETE/DEFINE, just REPRO
w/REUSE. Or, you can use EXPORT/IMPORT, which will do the DELETE/DEFINE for
you (or maybe just the DEFINE, I forget).
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:29 PM, John McKown
wrote:
> But not as easy due to the required DELETE / DEF
But not as easy due to the required DELETE / DEFINE. It __must__ be easy!
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On Oct 21, 2010 1:08 PM, "Clark Morris" wrote:
On 21 Oct 2010 03:51:00 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:49 +01...
Sort
On 21 Oct 2010 03:51:00 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:49 +0100, Mike Kerford-Byrnes wrote:
>> If you are only looking at speeding up the re-org process (which implies
>> KSDS only) would SORT be viable? After all, it is designed to read and
>> write data as
ה 21 אוקטובר 2010 12:49
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Subject: Re: DFDSS VSAM logical restore?
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:49 +0100, Mike Kerford-Byrnes wrote:
> If you are only looking at speeding up the re-org process (which
> implies KSDS only) would SORT be viable? After all, it is designed to
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:43:49 -0500, John McKown wrote:
>A dummy question. When I do a VSAM logical dataset restore using DFDSS, does
>it do a reorganization of the data? I would think so, but I cannot find it
>in the manual. This would be from a logical dump.
Yes, a VSAM KSDS dataset is reorganiz
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>
> On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:49 +0100, Mike Kerford-Byrnes wrote:
> > If you are only looking at speeding up the re-org process (which
implies
> > KSDS only) would SORT be viable? After all, it is designed
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:49 +0100, Mike Kerford-Byrnes wrote:
> If you are only looking at speeding up the re-org process (which implies
> KSDS only) would SORT be viable? After all, it is designed to read and
> write data as fast as it can - and there would be no need to actually SORT
> anything.
If you are only looking at speeding up the re-org process (which implies
KSDS only) would SORT be viable? After all, it is designed to read and
write data as fast as it can - and there would be no need to actually SORT
anything...
Just a thought
MKB
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:02:49 -0700, Ron Hawkins wrote:
>
>In the case of John's question the answer is no, the KSDS will not be
>reorganized when you use DFSMSdss RESTORE.
>
That's only true if you specified "NOVALIDATE" for the logical dump.
"VALIDATE" is the default. With "VALIDATE" (on DUMP) t
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> Thanks, Alan.
> How about IDCAMS EXPORT / IMPORT? We a
Thanks. My boss already mentioned something from FDR. With the comment that
the cost was way too high for us. We're still downsizing. And looking at
replacing CA-FAVER to reduce software cost. One doesn't save money by
replacing a Ford with a Lexus!
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Maranatha! <><
Well considering t
Ron
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> Starr, Alan
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> Hi John,
>
> I don&
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 08:27 +1100, Stephen Mednick wrote:
> If looking for an alternative to the traditional IDCAMS REPRO for the
> reorganisation of VSAM(and IAM) files, Innovation Data Processing's FDREORG
> solution might be worth looking at:
>
> http://www.innovationdp.fdr.com/products/
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 14:14 -0700, Starr, Alan wrote:
> Yes John... As far as I know, both REPRO and EXPORT result in a reorganized
> VSAM dataset.
>
> While you're looking at alternatives, you may wish to consider Innovation's
> IAM. We are quite happy with it.
>
> Regards,
> Alan
IAM is pro
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Subject: Re: DFDSS VSAM logical restore?
Yes John... As far as I know, both REPRO and EXPORT result in a reorganized
VSAM dataset.
While you're looking at alternatives, you may wish to consider Innovation's
IAM. We are quite happy with it.
Regards,
Alan
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Thanks, Alan.
How about IDCAMS EXPORT / IMPORT? We are looking at what it would take to
replace CA-FAVER. It is a good product, but we are
Thanks, Alan.
How about IDCAMS EXPORT / IMPORT? We are looking at what it would take to
replace CA-FAVER. It is a good product, but we are looking at possible
alternatives. IDCAMS is __slow__!
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Subject: DFDSS VSAM logical restore?
A dummy question. When I do a VSAM logical dataset restore using DFDSS, does it
do a reorganization of the data? I w
A dummy question. When I do a VSAM logical dataset restore using DFDSS, does
it do a reorganization of the data? I would think so, but I cannot find it
in the manual. This would be from a logical dump.
--
John McKown
Maranatha! <><
Sent from my Vibrant Android phone.
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