I am a newbie on Server Pac, and I read a lot of documentation related to
Server Pac; I was trying to get a good approach. One of the things I read (I
think it was on Planning for Installation book) was related to catalogs. The
recommendation was having one or more disks for Target Libraries, one
See below...
Víctor de la Fuente wrote:
I am a newbie on Server Pac, and I read a lot of documentation related to
Server Pac; I was trying to get a good approach. One of the things I
read (I
think it was on Planning for Installation book) was related to catalogs.
The
recommendation was having
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>Víctor de la Fuente wrote:
>> I am a newbie on Server Pac, and I read a lot of documentation related to
>> Server Pac;
I can understand his pain. I have done many over the years but I am
in the process of doing my first one since OS/390 2.10 (although I've
helped others during z/OS 1.4 and z
I'm just the opposite. The finished state for my systems, is to have
no SMPE TARGET's or DLIB's cataloged at all. It would be nice if
Serverpack didn't require the targets to be cataloged as part of the
allocds/RESTORE job(with the exception of HFS/ZFS). The dialogs know
what volumes they are b
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:58:43 -0500, Jousma, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm just the opposite. The finished state for my systems, is to have
>no SMPE TARGET's or DLIB's cataloged at all. It would be nice if
>Serverpack didn't require the targets to be cataloged as part of the
>allocds/RES
Can you provide some concrete examples? I don't follow what you
mean. It sounds like you're doing it the hard way, though. If
you want uncataloged data sets, just discard some or all of the
catalogs ServerPac builds for you at the end...
The SSAs are there so that the catalog entries can be
From my little knowledge, I prefer not cataloging more datasets than
necessary in the master. I don't know if this is a wrong positioning. Is it?
Nevertheless, my main doubts are the catalogs I should use...
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That won't work for HFS/zFS since you can't mount b
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Can you provide some concrete examples? I don't follow what you mean.
It sounds like you're doing it the hard way, though. If you want
uncataloged data sets, just discard some or all of the catalogs
ServerPac builds for you at the end...
The S
From my little knowledge, I prefer not cataloging more datasets than
necessary in the master. I don't know if this is a wrong positioning. Is it?
Nevertheless, my main doubts are the catalogs I should use...
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Jousma, David wrote:
You are correct about HFS/ZFS, I mentioned that. Those do get cataloged
with the maintenance SYSRES as the second qualifier in the live
Mastercat. We have no SMS managed datasets provided by Serverpac(other
than HFS/ZFS). CPAC provided datasets get cataloged in the live
mmer
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Subject: Re: Doubt about Server Pac and Catalogs
I'm not there any more, but I
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:21:27 +0100, Víctor de la Fuente
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From my little knowledge, I prefer not cataloging more datasets than
>necessary in the master. I don't know if this is a wrong positioning. Is it?
No. But I don't consider IBM "SYS1" data sets that are part of the
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 10:15:18 -0500, John Eells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>I think it would be faster and considerably less error-prone if
>you instead used the software upgrade installation path, which is
>intended to get the end result you're after.
>
Agree. But see my one of my prior posts..
Mark Zelden wrote:
The upgrade path does
not let you create a master catalog (one that I "throw away" later).
You have to do that outside of the dialogs. I don't understand
why you are not given the option to create it in the SSA screen
like you are for the replacement path.
Why? Well...be
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No. But I don't consider IBM "SYS1" data sets that are part of the OS
you are running "more than necessary". Just personal preference whether
you want dlibs cataloged or not. My personal preference is "yes" as long
as symbolics are used and upd
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:52:13 -0600, Rick Fochtman wrote:
>Mark, I always renamed my DLIB datasets to a different HLQ, just to keep
>them in a different catalog. That way, I could maintain multiple
>targets, each with its own master catalog, and not have to worry about
>whether the DLIBs were catalo
Tom Marchant wrote:
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:52:13 -0600, Rick Fochtman wrote:
Mark, I always renamed my DLIB datasets to a different HLQ, just to keep
them in a different catalog. That way, I could maintain multiple
targets, each with its own master catalog, and not have to worry about
whethe
No, no. I'm including those datasets into the "necessary set". I was talking
about adding more data sets to the MCAT.
2007/2/1, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:21:27 +0100, Víctor de la Fuente
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From my little knowledge, I prefer not cataloging
I read all your responses. I'm not sure I've understood all of them, but I
could learn a couple of things. By the way, I've several doubts about
installing the system, and as long as I'm talking to "the best of the best"
in system programmer's world, I'll send you another question. Hope you don't
"Víctor de la Fuente" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Doubt about Server Pac and Catalogs
I read all your responses. I'm not sure I've understood all of them, but I
could learn a couple of
Eric N. Bielefeld wrote:
I assume that you meant using VnRnMn in dataset names. My position is
don't use them. If you have JCL, Clists, or Execs that have system
dataset names in them, every time you upgrade the operating system, you
will have to change those JCL, Clists, or Execs. It might
Just for reference... here was your original post:
>From my little knowledge, I prefer not cataloging more datasets than
>necessary in the master. I don't know if this is a wrong positioning. Is it?
Then that is a good practice. I don't put any data sets in the MCAT
these days that aren't part o
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01/31/2007
at 07:45 PM, Víctor de la Fuente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>I am a newbie on Server Pac, and I read a lot of documentation
>related to Server Pac; I was trying to get a good approach. One of
>the things I read (I think it was on Planning for Installation bo
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