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From: Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Sent: Monday, 18 December, 2006 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Plurals and language confusion
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 13:01:05 -0700, Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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Words change over time
On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 00:04 -0600, Bruce Hewson wrote:
money:
fwiw. I dislike US green dollars.they are all the same non-green
colourthey are all the same size.the are all a strange oblong
shapeand they all feel the same.and they are paper..
Must admit I composed a
a number of different types of fruit.
Chris Mason
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From: Bruce Hewson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, 19 December, 2006 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: Plurals and language confusion
Hi folks,
...
plurals:
when
McKown, John wrote:
Yes. And it likely will. A judge has ordered the US Treasury to make it
easier for blind people to determine the denomination of paper money
(which is good since there are SOBs who would cheat their own family out
of a penny, given the chance). Many have said that this may
Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Ken Brick
Sent: 19 December 2006 18:05
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McKown, John wrote:
Yes. And it likely will. A judge has ordered the US Treasury to make it
easier for blind people to determine
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Sent: Monday, 18 December, 2006 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: Plurals and language confusion
Probably for dyslexics who have more trouble when they read something
than when they hear it.
Dyslexics of the world, untie!
Slogan of DAM (Mothers Against Dyslexia).
[I have been mildly dislectic
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John S. Giltner, Jr.
ATM in an Hotel across the street from where I work:
Please choose Language to continue:
English (Inglés)
Español (Spanish)
Better yet why most ATM's have
John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote:
snip
Better yet why most ATM's have cent postions? I have never seen one
that hands out change.
Hey, this is almost on-topic!
Our ATMs do give out change, or did (I am not sure whether they
are still marketed). Also, I believe someone else (perhaps
Diebold)
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills
. . .
At the new ATT (formerly Pac Bell and then SBC) Ball Park in
SF, the umpires' dressing rooms have Braille signs, a source
of some amusement. Have to comply with ADA, you know, whether
or
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chris Mason
. . .
How did I survive being in the cadets at school? And I was
even selected to participate in a guards competition once -
what mental agony!
Did you get to toss the rifles (with bayonets
: Re: Plurals and language confusion
Probably for dyslexics who have more trouble when they read something
than when they hear it.
Dyslexics of the world, untie!
Slogan of DAM (Mothers Against Dyslexia).
[I have been mildly dislectic most of my life. I still keep my change
purse in my right
On 18 Dec 2006 12:34:18 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick
O'Keefe) wrote:
But if we are writing user documentation - should we say PIN Number
irritating some customers, or PIN, confusing others?
...
You could write Personal Identifcation Number (PIN).
And it appears that we might have a new
On 18 Dec 2006 12:46:51 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Thompson, Steve , SCI TW) wrote:
Would that be why the drive up access only ATM machines have Braille on
them to assist the hearing impaired? And all this time I thought those
other drivers got their DLs the department of Cracker Jacks (name
On 18 Dec 2006 16:41:55 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Giltner,
Jr.) wrote:
Better yet why most ATM's have cent postions? I have never seen one
that hands out change.
Have you ever deposited a check it an ATM?
--
For
--snip--
I've also seen Industry's Biggest Mistake and Itty Bitty Machine and. a button that
said I Burn Meat. :-)
I have a document with more than 160 'meanings' for IBM.
I got it from a colleage when I worked for them.
My second
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Only Sheep is a valid illustration of a peculiar plural.
--unsnip---
What about Moose or Fish?
And we can't forget GOOSE/GEESE or MOUSE/MICE...
We have lots of plurals that don't follow the S
---snip
Fellow I know owned a horseshoeing school that was VA approved for GI
Bill assistance. Had some dorm rooms above the shop area. VA required
him to install an elevator to the dorm area to remain VA approved.
The law is an ass.
as a keen young
man.
Chris Mason
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Subject: Re: Plurals and language confusion
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On 18 Dec 2006 17:16:13 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Mills)
wrote:
I suspect the reason for the audio driver's license manual is some state
regulation that says *all* state publications must be accessible to the
visually impaired.
When we have laws (including the Constitution), people often
In a message dated 12/19/2006 8:26:45 A.M. Central Standard Time,
MarkHammond @ ATERAS.COM writes:
What does a Dyslexic Agnostic Insomniac do at night?
Lie in bed and contemplate is there a dog?
What do I do 24 hours a day now?
Wonder if there is a Darren to kill this thread.
In a message
Rick Fochtman wrote:
---snip
Fellow I know owned a horseshoeing school that was VA approved for GI
Bill assistance. Had some dorm rooms above the shop area. VA required
him to install an elevator to the dorm area to remain VA approved.
The law is
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 02:42:47 GMT, John S. Giltner, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Never noticed that, but I only use ATM's in 7-11, gas stations, and
places that like. I would assume that I can't make a depost at one of these.
I don't use them there - I don't like the fee.But I don't use cash
Here we go on the language thing again
Thread being killed.
Darren
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/01/2006
at 01:01 PM, Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Occasionally we will mistake the last letter of an acronym ending
with S as a plural, which grates on my ears almost as much as
Enter your PIN number to the ATM machine.
Or what was the last program update
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/01/2006
at 01:01 PM, Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Occasionally we will mistake the last letter of an acronym ending
with S as a plural, which grates on my ears almost as much as
Enter your PIN number to the ATM machine.
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 13:01:05 -0700, Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Occasionally we will mistake the last letter of an acronym ending with
S as a plural, which grates on my ears almost as much as Enter your
PIN number to the ATM machine.I haven't yet heard anybody say
CICS are
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe
Words change over time. There used to be a legume called the
pease in English. But that sounded plural so people
started using as such. And a word means what people think it
means, so that
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Subject: Re: Plurals and language confusion
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Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 2:46 PM
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Subject: Re: Plurals and language confusion
snip
Would that be why the drive up access only
In a recent note, McKown, John said:
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:53:38 -0600
Yes. And it likely will. A judge has ordered the US Treasury to make it
easier for blind people to determine the denomination of paper money
(which is good since there are SOBs who would cheat their own
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, McKown, John said:
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:53:38 -0600
Yes. And it likely will. A judge has ordered the US Treasury to make
it easier for blind people to
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
In a recent note, McKown, John said:
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:53:38 -0600
Yes. And it likely will. A judge has ordered the US Treasury to make it
easier for blind people to determine the denomination of paper money
(which is good since there are SOBs who
A judge has ordered the US Treasury to make it
easier for blind people to determine the denomination of paper money (which is
good since there are SOBs who would cheat their own family out of a penny,
given the chance). Many have said that this may result in the various bill
being different
Probably for dyslexics who have more trouble when they read something than
when they hear it.
Dyslexics of the world, untie!
Slogan of DAM (Mothers Against Dyslexia).
[I have been mildly dislectic most of my life. I still keep my change purse in
my right pocket, so I can take the 'next
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:38:58 -0600, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
So eventually we might not need to remind folks to enter their Personal
Identification Number number when they visit an Automated Teller Machine
machine?
...
Right. Instead we will have to remind them to enter their
That may actually reduce the feeling of unease in calling the thing an ATM
We call them ABM (automated banking machine) in Canada.
Or, something similar to IBM (Idiots Become Managers) in the Banking world.
What the 'A' stands for is left as an exercise for the student.
When in doubt.
PANIC!!
On 18 Dec 2006 12:46:51 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
SNIP
Would that be why the drive up access only ATM machines have Braille on
them to assist the hearing impaired? And all this time I thought those
other drivers got their DLs the department of Cracker Jacks (name owned
by its
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Clark Morris
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 5:15 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Plurals and language confusion
SNIP
Many blind people are in a passenger seat or walk around the car
The Colorado Drivers Manual may be on audio tape so that the user can
listen to it while driving to work. ;)
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Thompson, Steve , SCI TW wrote:
SNIP
SNIP
Would that be why the drive up access only ATM machines have Braille on
them to assist the hearing impaired? And all this time I thought those
other drivers got their DLs the department of Cracker Jacks (name owned
by its owner, who else?).
Can this
I was doing a contracting project years ago for the Virginia DMV. They took
me down to see the customer interaction. Chaos was reining because a guy was
getting his photo taken and wanted his guide dog to be in the photo with
him. We all of a sudden went seeing eye dog in a driver's license photo
---snip--
Would that be why the drive up access only ATM machines have Braille on
them to assist the hearing impaired? And all this time I thought those
other drivers got their DLs the department of Cracker Jacks (name owned
by its owner, who
-snip-
Or, something similar to IBM (Idiots Become Managers) in the Banking world.
What the 'A' stands for is left as an exercise for the student.
unsnip---
I've also seen Industry's Biggest
---snip---
Have to comply with ADA, you know, whether or not it makes any sense.
--unsnip--
Anyone who believes that politically correct has anything to do with
common sense is obviously
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:19:45 -0500, Kim Goldenberg ...STATE.NJ.US wrote:
In a recent note [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:19:45 -0500
And I have saved an announcement from the Colorado Talking Book Library
of the availability of the Colorado Drivers' License
I posted this to the news group by accient, I'm sending to the list so
some of you may see this twice.
Charles Mills wrote:
I was doing a contracting project years ago for the Virginia DMV.
They took
me down to see the customer interaction. Chaos was reining because a
guy was
getting his
I've also seen Industry's Biggest Mistake and Itty Bitty Machine and. a
button that said I Burn Meat. :-)
I have a document with more than 160 'meanings' for IBM.
I got it from a colleage when I worked for them.
My second favourite is:
'Incomplete, But Markettable.
When in doubt.
PANIC!!
On 1 Dec 2006 07:36:20 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vernooy, C.P.
- SPLXM) wrote:
Well, now you hit a topic on the head, that I, as non-English, never was
able to understand, not get a feel for:
why you say: the police *are* i.s.o. the police *is*... as we do and
lots of other languages. Also: the
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