Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-13 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:23 AM Subject: Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:18:42 -0500, Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... But Mike Wood, the lead architect

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-13 Thread james smith
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM - Original Message - From: Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:23 AM Subject: Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:18:42 -0500, Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-12 Thread R.S.
Shane wrote: [...] The only problem I have had with CA-1 is CA's insistence on keeping the same FMID when changing versions. FWIW I'm in total agreement. CA-1 are *wy* out in front of all the other CA product groups with regard to SMP. But they are still apparently constrained by corporate

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-12 Thread Jack Kelly
I was called to task for venturing an opinion without substantiating it. This was a reasonable criticism so here are some of my reasons for my TMS preference. RMM con: RMM lack of retained customer fields, eg vendor id Lack of ?inq? function ? ease of clist mitigates somewhat Lack of report

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-12 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:09:51 -0500 Jack Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :TMS con: :Yet another product to add. Usually another smp zone :?slight? lag in new products Only if IBM isn't playing fair. -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-12 Thread Bruce Black
RMM pro: Include with os BUT AT AN EXTRA COST Quicker os and tape drive support. I doubt that. CA participates in Vendor disclosure and hardware ESP programs, so they have access to the doc and hardware and software before GA of new devices. It is probably rare that IBM significantly beats

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-12 Thread Pinnacle
a huge background in CA-1 to RMM conversions, I would not hesitate to convert RMM to CA-1 (hello, CA, are you listening?) More and more, the choice between CA-1 and RMM comes down to business issues, not technical issues. Regards, Tom Conley - Original Message - From: [EMAIL

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-09 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM I'll take RMM anyday. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-09 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: John Benik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 4:19 PM Subject: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM Well, it seems we have two directions we can go with our tape management system. We have some systems that run CA-1

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-09 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
, 2007 5:24 PM To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Cc: Schwarz, Barry A Subject: RE: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM Barry, We NEVER would have a r11.0 PTF have a PRE of a r11.5 PTF. When we supported both r11.0 and r11.5 (remember, r11.0 is no longer officially supported), we always published both a r11.0

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-09 Thread Russell Witt
: 2007/02/09 Fri PM 01:30:53 CST To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM My apologies Russell, I phrased that badly. The actual problem was 11.0 PTFs without PRE or SUP for previously installed PTFs and the recommended work-around was to install the 11.5 PTFs (issue

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-09 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 15:01 -0600, Russell Witt wrote: I am so sorry that the level-1 tech did not explain himself clearly. You ARE at r11.5 already. The 5 PTF's you listed as being missing from the PRE/SUP list (QO75520, QO72923, QO72131...) ARE r11.5 PTF's that you already have applied to

RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-08 Thread John Benik
Well, it seems we have two directions we can go with our tape management system. We have some systems that run CA-1 and some that run RMM. At first we stated that we wanted to go to CA-1. This seems to be what the majority of people use. My personnel opinion I like CA-1 much better, I

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-08 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Benik Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM Well, it seems we have two directions we can go with our tape

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-08 Thread Jack Kelly
by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 02/08/2007 04:18 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM Well, it seems we have two directions we can go with our tape management system. We have

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-08 Thread Skip Robinson
-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 02/08/2007 01:24 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-08 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
: Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM Well, it seems we have two directions we can go with our tape management system. We have some systems that run CA-1 and some that run RMM. At first we stated that we wanted to go to CA-1. This seems

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-08 Thread Robert Justice
I'll take RMM anyday. - Original Message - From: John Benik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM Well, it seems we have two directions we can go with our tape

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-08 Thread Russell Witt
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 5:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM The only problem I have had with CA-1 is CA's insistence on keeping the same

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-08 Thread Robert Justice
: Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM I'm one of those sys prog and I really dislike CA and have worked with and installed both and RMM is awful. TMS is the standard that RMM tries to imitate. Unless price is the issue, TMS wins. My $0.02

Re: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM

2007-02-08 Thread Robert Justice
well, if c/a ever puts ca-1 under datacom, that will make the choice REALLY easy. - Original Message - From: John Benik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: RMM to CA-1 or CA-1 to RMM Well