To Binyamin Dissen and Shmuel Metz:
Ok, I must be confusing (having too much decaying braincells :D ) STOW with
something else which can destroy a PDS / PDSE directory if used incorrectly.
Please educate and correct me what that thing was which was discussed on
IBM-MAIN. I remember that if you
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:56:39 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Ok, I must be confusing (having too much decaying braincells :D ) STOW with
something else which can destroy a PDS / PDSE directory if used incorrectly.
It used to be easy enough with IEBGENER. This may have changed lately,
or may
In 1009418597484101.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@bama.ua.edu, on
11/15/2011
at 04:56 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
Ok, I must be confusing (having too much decaying braincells :D )
STOW with something else which can destroy a PDS / PDSE directory if
used
In 7i53c7thv9cglid3773mjl4k778pvp3...@4ax.com, on 11/15/2011
at 12:30 AM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com said:
Incorrect.
Closer than your answer.
The mapping macro has a parameter to indicate whether the BLDL or
directory format is desired.
Not for PDSE.
--
Shmuel
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:08:25 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In 1009418597484101.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@bama.ua.edu, on
11/15/2011 at 04:56 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht said:
Ok, I must be confusing (having too much decaying braincells :D )
STOW with something else which can destroy
On 11/15/2011 5:56 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
To Binyamin Dissen and Shmuel Metz:
Ok, I must be confusing (having too much decaying braincells
:D ) STOW with something else which can destroy a PDS / PDSE
directory if used incorrectly.
Or perhaps you were thinking of STOW ,,,I ?
Re your
---snip
Ok, I must be confusing (having too much decaying braincells :D ) STOW with
something else which can destroy a PDS / PDSE directory if used incorrectly.
Please educate and correct me what that thing was which was
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:22 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: STOW macro Location
---snip
Ok, I must be confusing (having too much decaying braincells :D ) STOW with
something else which can destroy a PDS / PDSE
(res)
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
Of Bill Fairchild
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:39 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: STOW macro Location
STOW does not ever
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:38:34 + Bill Fairchild wrote:
Perhaps IBM reasoned that if a user really, really,
seriously wants to do something this strange, they should let him.
Your gun, your foot ...
Maybe users in bygone times were made of sterner stuff and prepared to
take responsibility for
On 11/15/2011 7:38 PM, Bill Fairchild wrote:
I think the real culprit is the lack of user-friendliness in
whatever OPEN executor module is blindly following the user's
request to overwrite an entire file without checking for
certain file types for which overwriting the whole file might
not be
Shane's point is an important one.
In a private email to Bill earlier this evening I confessed that I had
(more than once) opened a PDS as a sequential data set using BSAM in
order to read a (mangled) directory.
On the occasion I remember best I got the information I needed without
[further]
On 11/15/2011 8:41 PM, Shane wrote:
Maybe users in bygone times were made of sterner stuff and prepared to
take responsibility for their own actions.
Not necessarily - we operated in a completely different
environment. There were so few manuals that it was possible to
read all of them, as
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:51:25 -0500, Gerhard Postpischil wrote:
On 11/15/2011 7:38 PM, Bill Fairchild wrote:
I think the real culprit is the lack of user-friendliness in
whatever OPEN executor module is blindly following the user's
request to overwrite an entire file without checking for
In 1149164858762620.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on
11/15/2011
at 09:39 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Indirectly.
Right answer to wrong question.
Rexx (even in batch, under IKJEFT*) can invoke ISPF to
use ISPF services.
You're still talking about ISPF services, not
In 2016114137.2cca11dd@xpfs, on 11/16/2011
at 11:41 AM, Shane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au said:
Maybe IBM never put any thought into it at all.
That would certain account for absolute track 0 not available when
you forgot a SPACE keyword for a new data set.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,
In
CAPD5F5qvUFtSVX3WoWvHNmTfPObydZuusnbx+MV0mAWS=fq...@mail.gmail.com,
on 11/15/2011
at 09:01 PM, John Gilmore johnwgilmore0...@gmail.com said:
Would I discourage a novice from doing this sort of thing? Yes, but
Do what I say, not what I do is not always unreasonable, although
it is of course
On 11/15/2011 9:24 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
Resource constraint, whether development schedule or REGION
to accommodate the executable code is a plausible explanation.
All of the OPEN code was in a type 4 SVC, with a 1K constraint
on each transient. While OPEN had a lot of overlays, it didn't
Hi,
Could anyone please point me to the STOW macro Library location in Z/os.
Where I can see the Assembler codes Responsible for PDS/PDSE directory
update by STOW.
I referred this Link :
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zvm/v5r4/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r9.ieab200/destow.htm
but
Not
Hi,
Could anyone please point me to the STOW macro Library location in Z/os.
Where I can see the Assembler codes Responsible for PDS/PDSE directory
update by STOW.
I referred this Link :
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zvm/v5r4/index.jsp?topic=/com
.ibm.zos.r9.ie
Hi,
Could anyone please point me to the STOW macro Library location in Z/os.
Where I can see the Assembler codes Responsible for PDS/PDSE directory
update by
STOW.
I referred this Link :
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zvm/v5r4/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.z
os.r9.ie
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:31:46 +0530 jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com
wrote:
:Could anyone please point me to the STOW macro Library location in Z/os.
SYS1.MACLIB
:Where I can see the Assembler codes Responsible for PDS/PDSE directory
:update by STOW.
:I referred this Link :
;
second 8 bytes contain the new member name or alias. Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011
15:31:46 +0530
From: jagadish...@gmail.com
Subject: STOW macro Location
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Hi,
Could anyone please point me to the STOW macro Library location in Z/os.
Where I can see the Assembler codes
Most of the macros that are z/OS BCP (Base Control Program) related
reside either in SYS1.MACLIB or SYS1.MODGEN. STOW is in SYS1.MACLIB.
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 15:31 +0530, jagadishan perumal wrote:
Hi,
Could anyone please point me to the STOW macro Library location in Z/os.
Where I can see
jagadishan perumal wrote:
Could anyone please point me to the STOW macro Library location in Z/os. Where
I can see the Assembler codes Responsible for PDS/PDSE directory update by
STOW.
Why? What are you trying to achieve? One little error and you whole PDS/PDSE is
destroyed and it is goodbye
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:26:14 -0600 Elardus Engelbrecht
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
:jagadishan perumal wrote:
:Could anyone please point me to the STOW macro Library location in Z/os.
Where I can see the Assembler codes Responsible for PDS/PDSE directory update
by STOW.
:Why? What
reposted from the assembler list, where I put it first in error:
I suspect that what Jagadishan wants to know is where, physically, in
what crypto-DASD PDS[E], the STOW macro definition is to be found.
Is it, say in SYS!.MACLIB? Elsewhere with other data-management macros?
Such questions are
In
canhhcytp0vz+uzu3r-ibjqejw4t8v-kyoahkuyzdk_u0rjm...@mail.gmail.com,
on 11/14/2011
at 03:31 PM, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com said:
Could anyone please point me to the STOW macro Library location in
Z/os.
SYS1.MACLIB.
Where I can see the Assembler codes Responsible for PDS/PDSE
In 012b01cca2bd$61013710$2303a530$@mindspring.com, on 11/14/2011
at 06:05 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com said:
I was not aware that the STOW would also work on a PDSE.
How could it not? There would be no upward compatibility without it.
PDSE directory entry returned by DESERV
In 5909987196980741.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@bama.ua.edu, on
11/14/2011
at 07:26 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
Why? What are you trying to achieve? One little error and you whole
PDS/PDSE is destroyed and it is goodbye to your nice PDS/PDSE ...
What
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Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 11:51 AM
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Subject: Re: STOW macro Location
In
canhhcytp0vz+uzu3r-ibjqejw4t8v-kyoahkuyzdk_u0rjm...@mail.gmail.com,
on 11/14/2011
at 03:31 PM, jagadishan perumal
On 11/14/2011 7:26 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
jagadishan perumal wrote:
Could anyone please point me to the STOW macro Library location in Z/os. Where
I can see the Assembler codes Responsible for PDS/PDSE directory update by STOW.
Why? What are you trying to achieve? One little error
In
77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca3433225e...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com,
on 11/14/2011
at 06:06 PM, Bill Fairchild bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com said:
The results of a STOW macro's having executed can be seen in the
mapping macro IHAPDS, which maps the directory entry for a PDS or a
PDSE.
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:58:29 -0500 Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
:In
:77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca3433225e...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com,
:on 11/14/2011
: at 06:06 PM, Bill Fairchild bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com said:
:The results of a STOW macro's having
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