Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-14 Thread Tony Harminc
On 13 March 2012 11:08, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:54:06 -0500, McKown, John wrote: Going back into the dark days of history, CICS has often done things which the OS can also do. One thing I remember was it implemented its own version of program fetch. It

Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-14 Thread John Gilmore
Tony's response deserves high praise, not least because it reflects some historical understanding of how systems evolve. The original design of CICS envisaged making elegant use of the announced facilities of OS/MVT. When the time came to implement CICS 1) some of these facilities were not yet

Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-14 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
johnwgilmore0...@gmail.com (John Gilmore) writes: The original design of CICS envisaged making elegant use of the announced facilities of OS/MVT. When the time came to implement CICS 1) some of these facilities were not yet available and 2) some of them did not yet work reliably. The

Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-13 Thread R.S.
Just curious: what about DB2, MQ, maybe DFSMS, DFSMShsm? What else need to be reset to get DST ? Any clue? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2012-03-12 23:49, John Norgauer pisze: This weekend we had our mainframe time automatically adjusted to Day Light Time using S.T.P.. However,

Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-13 Thread Paul Jodlowski
it is we have v3.2 and in our sit I use AUTORESETTIME=YES cheers -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 8:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-13 Thread Jousma, David
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Jodlowski Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Server time Protocol and CICS it is we have v3.2 and in our sit I use AUTORESETTIME=YES cheers -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:46:39 +, Jousma, David wrote: I just read about that. Not sure it is too helpful, unless I am mis-understanding it? Time changes at 02:00 local time, based on what I read, the CICS clock would be off for the next 22 hours until the next local midnight?:

Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-13 Thread McKown, John
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Server time Protocol and CICS On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:46:39 +, Jousma, David wrote: I just read about that. Not sure

Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-13 Thread Mike Schwab
How about a parameter that specifies when to perform the check, say CHECKTIME=020001 (unless your time zone changes at a different time)? On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:46:39 +, Jousma, David wrote: I just read about that.  

Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-13 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:50:41 +0100, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: Just curious: what about DB2, MQ, maybe DFSMS, DFSMShsm? What else need to be reset to get DST ? Any clue? From some notes I have: The only other IBM thing used to be RMF III, but that was changed (fixed) quite a

Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:54:06 -0500, McKown, John wrote: Going back into the dark days of history, CICS has often done things which the OS can also do. One thing I remember was it implemented its own version of program fetch. It would read the directory entry for a program, allocate the correct

Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-13 Thread DiBianca, Robert
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Norgauer Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 6:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Server time Protocol and CICS This weekend we had our mainframe time automatically adjusted to Day Light Time using S.T.P.. However, CICS did not get the time changed

Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-13 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:50:41 +0100, R.S. wrote: Just curious: what about DB2, MQ, maybe DFSMS, DFSMShsm? What else need to be reset to get DST ? Any clue? -- http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21184270 http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21569725 Norbert Friemel

Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-12 Thread John Norgauer
This weekend we had our mainframe time automatically adjusted to Day Light Time using S.T.P.. However, CICS did not get the time changed automatically. Is CICS still unable to do this(have the time changed automatically)? John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support

Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-12 Thread Gibney, Dave
Subject: Server time Protocol and CICS This weekend we had our mainframe time automatically adjusted to Day Light Time using S.T.P.. However, CICS did not get the time changed automatically. Is CICS still unable to do this(have the time changed automatically)? John Norgauer Senior Systems

Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-12 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Norgauer Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 3:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Server time Protocol and CICS This weekend we had our mainframe time automatically adjusted to Day Light Time

Re: Server time Protocol and CICS

2012-03-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:58:44 -0600, Jerry Whitteridge wrote: CICS needs a nudge to pick up the timechange - we issue a F CICSNAME,CEMT-PERFORM RESET Why? Couldn't this be automated with a PARM? To each region following the automatic change (We are on Sysplex Timers) -- gil