Re: DS8870 - Ranks - RAID issue

2013-02-19 Thread Ron Hawkins
Raju, If memory serves me correctly, with IBM DASD aren't you required to define the first two ranks as R5 6D+1P+1S, where S is the floating Dynamic Spare? Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Raju Reddy Sent: Friday,

Re: Improve LLA/VLF usage

2013-02-19 Thread Ron Hawkins
Leonardo, Try the Type 64 subtype 64 record. Be aware that some addresses do not write an interval record, so best to include an IPL in your data collection. This will allow you to split directory processing our from the total IO count. Type 14/15 records do not show the dataset name in a

Re: Improve LLA/VLF usage

2013-02-19 Thread Yifat Oren
Did you mean 42 subtype 6? Yifat -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ron Hawkins Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Improve LLA/VLF usage Leonardo, Try the Type 64 subtype

Low priority workload

2013-02-19 Thread Natasa Savinc
Hello! From time to time (certain days in a month) we hit group or system limit. We have different types of workload defined in WLM. Among others, most batch jobs have the lowest priority. At the peek times they apparently get no CPU resources, but when we make report at the end of the day,

Re: Improve LLA/VLF usage

2013-02-19 Thread Martin Packer
As always EXCP counts in SMF records are a movable feast: They are what the access method wants them to be. :-) Type 42-6 is probably a better bet - and will give a guesstimate of bufferability from the cache statistics. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,

Re: Load To Global with PC_cp

2013-02-19 Thread Peter Relson
Since the chicken and egg situation was (correctly) mentioned, I'll point out that user groups might consider asking for something like: allow ETCON and/or ATSET not to require supervisor state and/or system key if a suitable RACF profile is defined that gives the user suitable authorization

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-19 Thread John McKown
We use LPAR Group Capacity to cap our system to 35 MSUs, for cost reasons. We often have our LPARs capped by WLM. Sometimes for hours. But it is mainly during cycle, when we have little CICS demand. However, on month end, we experience this capping during the day. We have never had a CICS is slow

Re: Improve LLA/VLF usage

2013-02-19 Thread Leonardo Vaz
Wow, thank you everyone for your replies! I will do that for a development system. My hope is not high, but let's see if we get any measurable performance improvement. Really appreciated, Leonardo Vaz -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-19 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 04:53 -0600, Natasa Savinc wrote: There are two opinions amoung our sysprogs: one is that we should cancel all low priority workload in order to help our online get all the resources, the other is that that is not necessary, as batch isn't getting any online's CPU

Re: Dualcase vs monocase. Was: Article for the boss...

2013-02-19 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
edgould1...@comcast.net (Ed Gould) writes: We were desperate for UCB's and even looked at the 8100's but it was a nightmare (programming and maintenance (software long story and I will explain offline if requested)). re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#56 Dualcase vs monocase. Was:

XCF transport classes

2013-02-19 Thread Leonardo Vaz
Hello all, We are in the process of reviewing XCF definitions, like getting rid of XCF signaling though CTCs and we are wondering if we have too many classes defined. Do you think it’s best to have just a couple of classes defined or to have them more fine-grained? Can anyone send me their

Re: Load To Global with PC_cp (OT)

2013-02-19 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 2/19/2013 7:54 AM, Peter Relson wrote: Since the chicken and egg situation was (correctly) mentioned, A chicken and egg situation exists only for people who don't understand evolution (a bird not quite a chicken laid a mutated egg that grew into a chicken). I'm amazed that more than 150

Re: Load To Global with PC_cp (OT)

2013-02-19 Thread John McKown
If you want to think in those terms, fish existed before birds. And fish lay eggs (caviar?). So the egg preceded the chicken. Come to think of it, arthropods may have preceded fish. And they lay eggs too. Eggs came way before chickens. A chicken is just a right sized dinosaur. grin/ On Tue, Feb

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-19 Thread Gerhard Adam
It's really not more complicated. Higher priority work always gets the computing cycles it needs, except as it relates to competition at the same or higher priorities. Low priority cannot contribute any resources, since it doesn't have anything that higher priority work needs. In other

Re: XCF transport classes

2013-02-19 Thread Norman.Hollander
Why do you want to get rid of the CTC connections? Do you need them for something else? Are these SCTCs or FCTCs? If yes, there are times when these may be faster than the CF. I also recommend 3 Transport Classes: 1K, 8K and 20/32K, with the last one being the default. zNorman -Original

Re: ARC0126I Type inconsistent at DFHSM start-up

2013-02-19 Thread af dc
Thx very much to all of your hints, A.Cecilio. On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 11:51 PM, retired mainframer retired-mainfra...@q.com wrote: Then it really is a 3380. But since you probably don't have a SLED it is actually an emulated 3380. No z/OS utility can change that. If you want it to be a

Re: XCF transport classes

2013-02-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:48:23 -0600, Leonardo Vaz leonardo@cn.ca wrote: Hello all, We are in the process of reviewing XCF definitions, like getting rid of XCF signaling though CTCs and we are wondering if we have too many classes defined. Do you think it’s best to have just a couple of

China's Army Seen as Tied to Hacking Against U.S.

2013-02-19 Thread John Gilmore
This is the title of the lead article in today's print edition of the New York Times. Those of you who do not see The New York Times regularly can find it at http://nytimes.com The article is a very long, detailed one; but it will repay your attention. Not mentioned in it is strong evidence

Re: XCF transport classes

2013-02-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:25:17 -0800, Norman.Hollander norman.hollan...@desertwiz.biz wrote: Why do you want to get rid of the CTC connections? Do you need them for something else? Are these SCTCs or FCTCs? If yes, there are times when these may be faster than the CF. I also recommend 3

Re: XCF transport classes

2013-02-19 Thread Leonardo Vaz
Thank you very much Norman and Mark. I can't believe I'm hearing great advice from these great people. Yes, we use Ficon, but we are looking into simplifying things, using only one of the methods, share the COUPLExx member. As Mark said, try to make our DR life easier. Thanks for the advice, I

Re: China's Army Seen as Tied to Hacking Against U.S.

2013-02-19 Thread John Gilmore
Mr Puddicombe, 'We' may well be doing things of this sort to Chinese sites. Certainly there is evidence that the AmericanGovernment or its surrogates have done such things to the Iranian isotope-separation centrifuges. My notion was to inform. I did not mean to suggest moral outrage. I feel

Re: Load To Global with PC_cp (OT)

2013-02-19 Thread Mark Hammond
In the creation model, chickens (or at least the chicken kind) were directly created by God. Then they had eggs. Mark Hammond -Original Message- From: Gerhard Postpischil [mailto:gerh...@valley.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: XCF transport classes

2013-02-19 Thread Norman.Hollander
Because they are sized correctly and will not cause the re-sizing exercise. If all the messages fit, Then the default doesn't matter. But resizing the largest one means less resizing elsewhere. If you are resizing more than 10% of your messages, that could be a very large number and long Time

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-19 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 02/19/2013 11:25 AM, Gerhard Adam wrote: It's really not more complicated. Higher priority work always gets the computing cycles it needs, except as it relates to competition at the same or higher priorities. Low priority cannot contribute any resources, since it doesn't have anything

Re: Load To Global with PC_cp (OT)

2013-02-19 Thread Sam Siegel
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Mark Hammond markhamm...@ateras.comwrote: In the creation model, chickens (or at least the chicken kind) were directly created by God. Then they had eggs. Please do not take offence I'm not point fingers at religion, but merely remembering the genius of

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-19 Thread Gerhard Adam
I have to disagree. I often hear this, but there's no resources to give. Other than MPL adjustments, almost all of the major WLM decisions are simply a matter of setting dispatching priorities. There can never be a situation of where a lower priority [lower DP] unit of work can pre-empt a

Re: SV: SV: SV: Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all

2013-02-19 Thread Leslie Turriff
On Monday 18 February 2013 23:20:46 Ed Gould wrote: Most places I have worked the use of ALTER was banned in the standards manual. Ed Not this place; my mentor chastised me for using structured methods (he didn't understand it). :-P Leslie

Re: Load To Global with PC_cp (OT)

2013-02-19 Thread Mike Schwab
You are starting way too late. Living beings are the way the protiens in the primordial soup have created to replicate themselves. Sometimes the replicated protiens are slightly different, and most of the altered protiens don't replicate as well and a few protiens form a competing branch. On

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SHARE in Boston Call for Presentations (CFP)

2013-02-19 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
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Re: Dualcase vs monocase. Was: Article for the boss...

2013-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5122552c.3010...@acm.org, on 02/18/2013 at 10:22 AM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: Having a few devices that supported dual case didn't necessarily make it economically reasonable to adopt dual case. There was considerable (more than a decade) overlap between use of card equipment

Re: Dualcase vs monocase. Was: Article for the boss...

2013-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
Resent with manual reference. In 5122552c.3010...@acm.org, on 02/18/2013 at 10:22 AM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: Having a few devices that supported dual case didn't necessarily make it economically reasonable to adopt dual case. There was considerable (more than a decade) overlap

Debug Tool: No source

2013-02-19 Thread Donald Likens
I am sure I am missing something very simple but I have been at this for hours and not making any progress so I hope someone simply knows what to do and can tell me. I am attempting to use the IBM Debug Tool (version 11.1) to debug an HLASM program. I assembled and linked it using the debug

Re: SV: SV: Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all

2013-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a90e503c23f97441b05ee302853b0e628645c29...@fspas01ev010.fspa.myntet.se, on 02/18/2013 at 02:48 PM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se said: Do you imply that these features is promoting/helping obfuscating ? It's not the features that are bad in those instances, but rather the syntax for

Re: Debug Tool: No source

2013-02-19 Thread George Young
On 2/19/2013 7:19 PM, Donald Likens wrote: I am sure I am missing something very simple but I have been at this for hours and not making any progress so I hope someone simply knows what to do and can tell me. I am attempting to use the IBM Debug Tool (version 11.1) to debug an HLASM program.

Re: Debug Tool: No source

2013-02-19 Thread George Young
On 2/19/2013 8:20 PM, George Young wrote: On 2/19/2013 7:19 PM, Donald Likens wrote: I am sure I am missing something very simple but I have been at this for hours and not making any progress so I hope someone simply knows what to do and can tell me. I am attempting to use the IBM Debug Tool

AW: Low priority workload

2013-02-19 Thread Uwe Oswald
Most times wrong WLM settings lead to problems in stc's getting dispatched incorrectly. Is online running longer on a transaction basis or how do you know that online is being hurt by your low prio batch. If you problems persist you can send me some smf data and then we can talk in more detail

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-19 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Natasa, you didn't say what your definition of lowest priority is. Since years we have a constrained system with capping periods and the same problem as you, that batch gets more CPU resources than expected, even during capping. What we see is that Online workload doesn't match it's goal and